Spencer Hawes is inactive tonight, with Kings coach Paul Westphal saying "I saw where he's having a hard time understanding his role. He should understand it tonight." Just guessing here, but pretty sure he's referencing today's story
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That is a giant punch in the balls.
Nothing ambiguous about it, at least.
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First impression
I don’t mind it. Maybe there are roles that are being explained and the young guys are just not meeting the expectation set. PW doesn’t seem like some kind of dictator that would do something like this just because a player came out and said something negative.
If the coaching staff never explained what the roles and expectations are and then Spencer gets suspended, then this is a douchey move. I don’t see PW being that type of person.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
He could handle it internally
or just give him a dnp-cp. His quote is pathetic.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
Again, I'm leaning towards the fact that expectation have been explained
and, IF that’s the case, then Spencer’s quotes are also disrespectful. I’m not playing sides here and I’m staying neutral. Not making judgements on it.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I'm making a judgement ed
I’m f’ing pissed :-)
PW chose the way that involves maximum embarrassment for Hawes when he didn’t have to; its too petty and vindictive for me from the guy that’s supposed to be the mature one in the situation.
I’m not saying PW doesn’t have a right to be pissed or do something about it, but I don’t like the way he handled this one.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
Completely understandable
I do hate the drama this is bringing to the team.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
What I don't like is the double standard.
May and Tyreke basically said the same thing, yet Hawes is the one getting punished
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Honestly what a crappy move by Westphal
looks like he’s completely losing control of the locker room (even Tyreke was on him in the Bee article) so he lashes out like an 8 year old.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
+1
Definite echoes of Theus. It’s one thing to bench a buy, but it’s another thing to talk that kind of crap to the media. Is that supposed to impress people. Classless, classless, classless.
"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"
Sammyp831.
seems like were all calling for his head now?
IMO there must have been something that happened with spence to make him do the things he did, OR
hes dealing with his personal issues and that is affecting his profession.
Either way, I say give the guy a break, You’d give any of the kings a break, to say he’s classless is a bit uncalled for. The guy has been professional with the kings for the entire season and hes not getting alot of help from his team. Its not like the players have been consistant with their behaviors or performances as much as PW has.
Not a fan
I think this was a terrible move, and the remark to go with it just shows poor judgement and character on PW’s part. Don’t start abusing the media and dividing the locker-room like Theus, this isn’t your soap opera, it’s your team.
I like Westphal
But I think this one is a big swing and a miss. In fact, if he is going to practice what he preaches, he owes Spencer an apology – not for the DNP, but for the media-quoted comment.
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by section214 on Feb 23, 2010 7:36 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
For some reason he seems to dislike spencer.
guy is only 21 years old.
They're both Republicans
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+100
Recd for the apology due. Can I change my approval vote?
"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"
Sammyp831.
There are 2 things that come to mind here
First, PW’s wife is in bad health and she’s not local so he’s had to go to SoCal to take of her. That has got to be incredibly stressfull for the guy. And when you’re under emotional stress like that it’s pretty hard to stay calm and keep your perspective when you react to other stressors in your life. Given PW’s demeanor in the past about not throwing players under the bus when bad things happen I would surmise that his reaction was stress related and this shall hopefully pass.
That said, PW has seemingly had it in for Spencer ever since he didn’t show up for Summer League. If I were Spencer, in addition to talking to my coach, I’d be talking to my agent in a big way planning my exit strategy in the event the situation is really going south. There have got to be a lot of teams that would love to have a center with Spencer’s skill set. Life and an NBA career is way too short to be playing for a guy who has it in for you.
"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." - Cardinal Richelieu
PW = D-bag
Its official. I get the whole running the team thing, and demanding respect, but come on. He has f’d over Hawes enough. But instead of admiting it, he benches him. Unclassy move.
Atleast we know where the team stands
Currently getting smashed by the lowly pistons. Looks a lot like the NY game before Theus got fired. UH-OH!
I love beating dead horses.
by allbenji's on Feb 23, 2010 8:55 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I'm starting to wonder
If Westphal is up to the task of mentoring such a young team. Maybe he’s just too old to relate.
Honestly, those quotes by Spencer didn’t seem that out of line to me.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Me either
"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"
Sammyp831.
Perhaps there was
If they decided to sit Spencer for a game for some things he might have said that didn’t make the media, I don’t have a problem with that. But PW is the coach – take the high road, tell the media that it was an in-house matter and they are working it out.
But to make these sarcastic comments about Spencer looks unprofessional and petty…and without that additional info it appears Spencer’s being made a scapegoat for comments that other players made in a similar manner.
Ultimately, it makes the team continue to look disorganized and vindictive. After the recent issues with Kevin, I’m thinking it might be a good time to clean up their internal communication.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
by otis29 on Feb 24, 2010 5:35 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Your logic makes complete sense
and I agree.. I guess maybe Im throwing a bit of sympathy his way in light of his situation at the moment. Everyone makes mistakes but for the most part I think he is a good coach..
everyone should have sympathy for his personal situation
and I’m ok with a coach that makes mistakes, it happens. But I hope PW and Spencer resolve this one and PW shows some leadership and maturity in doing so.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
Even more not impressed after the postgame interview
PW came across like a spoiled kid. His little smirk and, “You’ll have to ask him.” I can’t imagine Adelman playing those kinds of games. Wonder if Spencer is wishing he got traded with Speed.
"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"
Sammyp831.
They cut off a lot of the post game in the Youtube vid.
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Its gone completely now
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by lietothegirls on Feb 24, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Zach Harper has created a video of virtual Spencer and virtual Westphal.
Its hilarious Check it out.
Truehoop links that
and also one where Morly in Houston is humiliating Donnie Walsh in NY
very very funny
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 24, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Now there blaming Thorpe for the descention between PW and Martin.
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