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Around SBN: Explaining Jeremy Lin's Early, Surprising Success

For the Kings, the tired debate over whether Evans is a point guard, an off-guard, a point-forward or an offensive generalist is immaterial. Positional fundamentalism is a thing of the past. The challenge for Sacramento will be moving the ball enough in the half court to get easy opportunities. It doesn't matter where that playmaking comes from, so long as the good looks materialize.

almost 2 years ago Loofie_tiny Tom Ziller 41 comments 0 recs  | 

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NaGG

Not a Grenadier Guard.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Feb 27, 2010 11:38 AM PST reply actions  

I read this earlier and thought it was pretty spot on

Between Tyreke and Beno we get enough points, assists, and rebounds to match up with several back courts in this league. Spencer also has some nice passing ability as well. If we can get a total of 15 assists per game from the three of them I’d be pretty happy with that

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by vfettke on Feb 27, 2010 11:44 AM PST reply actions  

That would be awesome, and in theory

very doable.

"Thou must give props" - Ice_9ine

by tomroadrunner on Feb 27, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed that Tyreke and Beno team up quite well together.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 27, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

..."an offensive generalist"

So, he generally gets 20/5/5
OR
he is the General on offense!
AND….
generally speaking ROY is a lock!

by angry gus on Feb 27, 2010 12:20 PM PST reply actions  

Thank you for Copying me Arnovitz!

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Feb 27, 2010 12:37 PM PST reply actions  

Yep

Sounds like what I said, and got ripped by Rik Smitz for before the post disappeared. It doesn’t matter what you call him. All that matters are results.

"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"

Sammyp831.

by SavageBeast on Feb 27, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

yup yup.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Feb 27, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

How has this not been his nickname?

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Feb 27, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

NaPG-13.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Feb 27, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

That is just perfect. Rec'd

Sometimes things need to hit you squarely betweentheeyes before you see them.

by MustangMBS on Feb 27, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

bte, ftw.

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by section214 on Feb 27, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Who needs CP3 when you have a PG-13?

"custer’s battle plan at little big horn was more coordinated than deandre jordan" ~ lchristmas

by CaliforniaJag on Feb 27, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't understand why it has taken a full season for someone to come up with this

but my vote is that this is his official name, next to Havoc. It’s perfect!

by VenomySnicket on Feb 27, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome bte

Now if we can just get Spencer to change his number to 17, He could be NC-17(Not a Center)

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Feb 27, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be NaC

Which would be Sodium and Carbon

"custer’s battle plan at little big horn was more coordinated than deandre jordan" ~ lchristmas

by CaliforniaJag on Feb 27, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, getting nit picky about a throw away joke. Why?

So, by your criteria, it shouldn’t be USA, it should be USoA. Leaving out articles when making an acronym is acceptable.

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Feb 27, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude I'm joking

It made two periodic elements, so I saw a joke opportunity. Sorry.

"Matthews, like so many before, did not expect the Yeti. No one ever expects the Yeti." ~ Ziller

by CaliforniaJag on Feb 27, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked it!

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 27, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, I must have misread the attitude of your post

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Feb 27, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I could've phrased it a little better

No emoji on StR, unfortunately. Or fortunately, depending on your point of view.

"Matthews, like so many before, did not expect the Yeti. No one ever expects the Yeti." ~ Ziller

by CaliforniaJag on Feb 27, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Kfan an uptight prick?

The times have changed.

GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims

by iashwash on Feb 27, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

you lost me

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Feb 27, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

The sarcasm meter has been recently set low, hasn't it amigo?

GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims

by iashwash on Feb 28, 2010 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

have no idea what you're getting at

but at least you’re not calling me a prick this time

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Feb 28, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

woah

Didn’t actually intend to call you a prick. I was just overreacting to your overreaction. Sorry.

GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims

by iashwash on Mar 1, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Holy cow! BTE, you ahve found Tyreke's nickname

PG-13! Thats awesome.

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Feb 27, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

The ONLY downside of this

is that if the Kings ever decide Tyreke ISN’T a PG, the nickname becomes useless.

"Matthews, like so many before, did not expect the Yeti. No one ever expects the Yeti." ~ Ziller

by CaliforniaJag on Feb 27, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeez

So positionality doesnt matter: ‘How could a player even be a position anyways…?’

Well positionality may not be a ‘real thing’ but it helps us discuss basketball dynamics. With Tyreke acting as PG in a lineup, we are generally deficient in playmaking, so we might be well served in not thinking of him as a PG. Especially if a player does much better when you put playmaking PG next to him, he is probably NaPG.

This is how we USE basketball terms. Right?

by DustyG on Feb 27, 2010 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t mean to be old fashioned…

by DustyG on Feb 27, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point

I mean to say that when he is next to Beno he is better off than next to Martin—and I attribute that to Beno being the better playmaker.

by DustyG on Feb 27, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. Martin NaPlaymaker

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 27, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Assist Rates

Assist rates are a good way of measuring playmakin-ness, I figure:

Beno – 23.5
Reke – 19.9
Martin – 11.4

by DustyG on Feb 27, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

It does matter.

Tyreke as SG , the Kings need a better PG than Beno….
No ball movement if the Tyreke has the ball in his all the time…
Not just the jump shot…Tyreke needs to work on the catch and shoot…
Tyreke driving to the basket and then doing a 360 or 180 to find somebody to throw the ball
to in the backcourt is not ball movement.

by getPGwithbounce on Feb 27, 2010 5:49 PM PST reply actions  

The Houston Martin's are in Utah

Kevin’s completely on fire, 12 points in the first quarter. Unfortunately for the Rockets, Deron Williams got let out of the Evans prison from last night and has 18!?! first quarter points.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 27, 2010 6:29 PM PST reply actions  

I'm at Dream shake too, watching Speed

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Feb 27, 2010 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn't sound like Deron is hurt too badly!

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 27, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

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