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Preview: Clippers at Kings

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THE SCOUTING REPORT

Here's HighTops:

It’s only been eight days since we last played the Clippers, but the moves they made at the trade deadline make none of their past stats relevant. What was supposed to be two simple trades to create cap space for next year has altered the Clips' lineup enough to make all data from before the 18th immaterial.   

The move of Marcus Camby’s expiring contract was to be anticipated. With Blake Griffin expected to return from injury and claim the starting PF role and Craig Smith performing well in the backup PF role, trading Camby for two other expiring contracts had little downside. And, it gave the Clips a couple months to audition Steve Blake for the backup PG spot 

Sebastian Telfair had a player option in 2011 for $2.7M and that was way too much to pay for a shoot-first backup PG, who in five years hadn’t learned to shoot.   Al Thornton, a once-promising rookie would be entering the 2nd option year of his rookie contract in 2011, and would be making $2.8M as the backup SF.   So, the Clips were happy to move Thornton and Telfair for the expiring contract of Drew Gooden in the three-team deal that got Antawn Jamison from Washington to Cleveland.   And, it looked like Gooden would agree to a buy-out for this year, just as he did last year with the Kings.

So, in a rather clever maneuver, the Clips moved $5.5M in bad contracts for Marcus Camby’s expiring contract and a player (Thornton), who couldn’t break into the starting line-up well into his 3rd season.   And, they ended up moving a PG Telfair for a better PG Steve Blake, they moved a SF Thornton for a SF with an expiring contract Travis Outlaw, and a PF Camby for a PF Gooden who would save them money this year if he agreed to a buy-out.   At least that was the way it was supposed to go.

Gooden didn’t get bought out, and moved into the starting PF spot left open by Camby leaving.   Gooden’s 15 ppg and 10.3 rpg on 44% shooting has made the lose of Camby barely discernible.   Steve Blake isn’t burning up the nets, 4.4 ppg on 39% shooting, but his 8.6 assists per game since joining the team, has him getting more minutes than everyone except the starters.   Outlaw isn’t producing the stats that Thornton had but the numbers are close enough that Outlaw is 2nd in minutes off the bench after Blake.   One starter and your top 2 bench players, not bad for a move to free up cap space.

Although Gooden and Outlaw didn’t play in the game against the Kings, in the following 3 games against CHA, DET, and PHX the three new acquisitions have had major roles.   They combined for 30 ppg, 15 rbg, and 11 apg per game.   And, the Clippers went on to win two and might have won the PHX game, if Kaman hadn’t gotten ejected very early in the 3rd quarter for arguing with the ref.   So, the Clipper aren’t the same, not even the Clippers we saw eight days ago.

Chris Kaman is still playing at an All-Star pace 18.8 ppg and 11.8 rpg since the trade deadline.   Baron Davis is averaging 11 pts, 6 rebs, and 8.3 asts.   Eric Gordon is still shooting around his seasonal average of 17 ppg on 46% from the field and just under 40% from 3 pt range.  And, Rasual Butler has put up 16 ppg on 9-22 from 3 pt range, over seven 3-point attempts per game in the last 3 games.   Kaman and Gooden are dominating the boards, and won the ORBs during the last 3 games 46-35 even with Kaman missing the entire 2nd half of the Phx game.   

The changes for the Kings haven’t been as grand, at least not until the injury to JT.   And, while there are some who still question trading our best shooter for cap space and an offensive PF with defensive chops, no one can question the good timing, since JT is expected to miss 2 to 3 weeks. Landry has performed as advertised, averaging 16 pts while doing a good job defending a couple of the top PFs in the West in Amare and Boozer.   But, unfortunately, his rebounding has also been as advertised at only 5.5 per game.  

With the departure Martin, the big question was how would we replace his points.   The answer seems to have come from PW, when he moved Beno into the starting rotation.  Beno responded with a game high 25 pts, and a new starting line-up seems to have been born.   Now, we need to find out if the 3-man guard rotation of Tyreke, Beno, and Cisco can outperform the Clippers rotation of Davis, Gordon & Blake.

Omri’s once outstanding 3pt shoot, has fallen to 32% for the last 2 months, and along with it, his confidence and point contribution.   But, Butler doesn’t pose the same defensive challenge that Kirilenko did, so hopefully Omri’s offense will return.   Either way his defense and rebounding are essential.

With Beno starting there are very few shooters left on the bench.   Cisco isn’t fully recovered and I fear he doesn’t yet possess his shooter's eye.  Donte has only played in 3 games since the trade deadline and went 0-4 in two of them.   Ime can’t seem to hit open 3’s even from the short corner.   And, Noc still thinks we’re playing hot potato instead of basketball, so the ball is never in his hand longer than a 2-count before it clanks off the rim.   May, Dorsey and McGuire are long shots to make the team next year, but if any one of them can rebound, they might get extended minutes in this one.   So, it doesn’t seem like the reserves will be pulling this one out for us.

The Kings lost the battle of the boards to Utah and still won the game, by eliminating turnovers, only 7 for the game.   Spencer doesn’t match up well against Kaman, and Kaman & Gooden should dominate the boards again.   So to keep possessions and FGA’s equal, the Kings are going to have to eliminate turnovers again.   Spencer and Carl are making their short to midrange jumpers, which should pull their man away from the basket and open the lane for Beno & Tyreke.  The Clippers guard line can put up some outstanding numbers, so Tyreke and Beno will need to duplicate their offensive production from the Utah game.   Even so the Kings might need a wild card.   Maybe Dorsey having a monster game on the boards, or Donte torching the twine, but we’re going to need someone to step up.   Time for some Westphal magic.

THE KEY BATTLE

Tyreke Evans vs. Baron Davis. If Beno starts (as expected), we could see plenty of cross-matching with Gordon on Evans and vice versa, but I anticipate Baron and Reke will have a go at each other. I actually think Evans is a better shooter than Davis at this point, a more consistent (if still flawed) defender and a better slasher. But Davis can still set up teammates and finish at the rim, so we could have some highlights here.

BOLD PROCLAMATION

When the Other Kevin Martin wins a championship, O Canada! will not be the song of celebration.

DETAILS

6 PM PT tip. Two game threads (6 and 7:15) and a post-gamer (8:45).

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You were off by 20%!

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by lietothegirls on Mar 1, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Good job!

You were pretty damn close with your prediction!

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 1, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Gooden and Craig Smith are underrated, IMO

so I’m afraid Landry will have a tough night…

I hope they manage to avoid big nights from Gordon and/or Butler. Whem either of them get going, it will get difficult.

Go Kings!

Dunking Dutchman

by RikSmits on Feb 28, 2010 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

I agree with you

Smith is very solid, and Gooden can put up some numbers.

by MichaelMack on Feb 28, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

HT rocking the tops High! Who knew?

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by pookeyguru on Feb 28, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The last time the Kings started rolling

also came off a win against Utah. Let’s do it again! .500 ball for the rest of the season!

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by Aykis16 on Feb 28, 2010 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

that would be great

especially with all the drama we’ve had the past 2 weeks.

Omar Minaya is my hero!

by mvhsbball on Feb 28, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Will be at the game

with Player to be Named Later. My past couple games have losses but I’m feeling good about this one. Very interested in seeing Hawes go against someone who always torches us in Kaman. Was that new Hawes a one game thing or is he here to stay? Tonight’s game could give us some clues.

Let’s do this. Go Kings!

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by edm7 on Feb 28, 2010 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

Hell yeah, dude

Let’s do it. Hopefully Wabeno shows up today instead of the regular version.

"Matthews, like so many before, did not expect the Yeti. No one ever expects the Yeti." ~ Ziller

by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 28, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Wabeno

When we were winning earlier in the season, Beno and Tyreke were pushing the ball ahead which made for a faster, more exciting style of play. Let’s see some of that! Oh, to have both Martin and Landry,,,,,,,

by newkings on Feb 28, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I've got a good feeling about tonight

Just sayin’

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Feb 28, 2010 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

HT - You do a great job with the scouting report and game keys.

I have stopped trying to predict whether the Kings are going to win, because I am usually wrong. I thought they were going to suck against the Utah Jazz, but instead they played one of the best games of the season. They have played well against some really good teams, then played like crap against some of the weaker teams. Instead of focusing on the W, I try to find other things to watch.

I expect Westphal to go with a similar starting lineup, as he did with the Jazz: Tyreke, Beno, Landry, and Spencer, with a wild card at the 3 position. I love the Tyreke and Beno combo, so I will be watching them. I also enjoy watching Landry, so I will be following his progression. On the Clippers, I will be watching Drew Gooden. I like him as a player and wished the Kings would have kept him. I’m curious about Blake Griffin, so I will be looking for his play. On the ROY front, I hope Tyreke puts up more rebounds tonight and takes over with his usual dominance in the fourth quarter. Go Kings.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 28, 2010 2:38 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks Slam, I work hard to keep it fresh

Kings.com has PW starting the same line-up. Beno, Ty, Omri, Landry and Hawes.

It’s hard to believe that Gooden has been with so many teams, he seems to always produce.

Predicting is easy. Kings win, Kings win, Kings win. Actually, only 1 team in the Western Conference has been involve in more game that have been decided by 3 or less pts, OKC. And, only 5 teams have been involved in fewer games decided by 10 pts or more. So, as you can see, if you pick a score between 3 & 10 your going to be close the majority of the time. Assuming you pick the correct team.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
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by HighTops on Feb 28, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone said somewhere Gooden is the anti-Battier

where Battier always seems to produce in ways the box score doesn’t catch, Gooden is the opposite. We’ll see, if we involve Landry, he should demolish Craig Smith, who is really just Brockman three years from now.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 28, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I think

Craig Smith is what Brockman hopes to be in three years. I dont know if Brockman is going to be a real player versus a Mark Madsen.

by MichaelMack on Feb 28, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

To each their own

I hate Craig Smith from the days he was a Timberwolf, and hustle guys were death on Webber/Divac. Also, I live in MN and the announcers loved Craig Smith the way section214 loves free shakes.

“Craig Smith stands up!!!” in max decible announcer voice.

“The Rhino set a screen!!”, slobber, drool, on themselves.

And God forbid he actually get a rebound or score a basket, you had to be careful to keep Tom Hanneman from spontaneously combusting.

So yah, I hate him, and yep, its irrational.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 28, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Now, Kings.com is saying Donte will start over Beno, so who knows

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Feb 28, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I see that.

Wonder why?

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 28, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah! You are getting this predicting thing down to a science.

I’ll remember that. When in doubt, Kings Win.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 28, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

USA baby!!!

Omar Minaya is my hero!

by mvhsbball on Feb 28, 2010 2:41 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Picking the battle of the game

My pick last game was Milsap. If we could contain him I thought we could win and my thoughts are similar this game. We tend to lose in the battle of bigs and we have to win that here. We have to have defensive low post presence or we lose. We need another really solid defensive performance from Spencer and Landry to win.

by MustangMBS on Feb 28, 2010 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

What? No Kaman as a Wooly Mamamoth talk?

With the size and strength of a 5 ton skip loader, Kaman should be able to clean a path all the way to the cheap seats. Gooden, like a bald headed wrecking ball with blow holes through the chests of weary Kings post players. Craig Smith- a man or a jack hammer? It’s not a question of injuring the Kings player, it’s a wait and see on who survives the Clippers carnage.

Sorry, the Puma thing got me going last time.

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by jjham15 on Feb 28, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice imagery!

NefariousD might just get more burn this game. Looking forward to some bangin’ and wangin’

by MustangMBS on Feb 28, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Man

That is such a horrible nickname. I don’t think anyone else is going to pick it up. Sorry, man.

"Matthews, like so many before, did not expect the Yeti. No one ever expects the Yeti." ~ Ziller

by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 28, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree the Clippers had some nice trade deadline moves

they saved some money, Blake is an upgrade at PG where they have the oft injured BoomDiddy, Al Thornton is a what we old skool guys call “a chucker” and is many ways a redundant Ricky Davis whom the Clippers already have, Outlaw is similar enough and an expiring contract.

Kaman is a polarizing player. Either people feel he is over rated or under appreciated. He is a lot like Andrew Bogut in that regard and someone who will always get demeaned for his status as an All-Star (Bogut will make an All-Star team). That said, the guy can produce well and consistently on the stat page. He has a nice all around if unspectacular game. Up until two weeks ago, some on this site were anxious to have him on this team. He often puts up big numbers on the Kings and I expect that to continue tonight.

I hope to see more of NefariousD(orsey) who would be a good choice to throw at Chris Kaveman. Craig Smith v Landry is also a nice match up.

I went to the game at Staples and I was most impressed with the defense of Eric Gordon on Tyreke more than his smooth offense, he is a fine player. That is more the match up I expect than Baron Davis, but as mentioned above, that is cross over D as Tyreke may be on Davis more than on Gordon. Steve Blake is a less turnover producing less imaginative Sergio Rodriquez. I would call him “sugar free white chocolate” or something.

Bold Proclamation: Baron Davis will not shave for tonight’s game.

by betweentheeyes on Feb 28, 2010 2:47 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

After the article in the Bee, where PW raved about Dorsey being the best defensive big

I thought he would have gotten more then 10 minutes in the Utah game. But, he did get 4 rebs, and Hawes and Landry did play all but 20 minutes of the center/pf minutes. So, I guess half of the available minutes considering the lack of practice time isn’t bad.

If Spencer can’t hit his jumper, PW might decide to go with defense, and Dorsey could see more minutes.

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by HighTops on Feb 28, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Dammit

Stop proliferating awful nicknames. Nefarious D is the worst Kings nickname anyone’s come up with since “the Tasmanian Slovenian”.

"Matthews, like so many before, did not expect the Yeti. No one ever expects the Yeti." ~ Ziller

by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 28, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude (or dudette),

What’s your issue? This nickname isn’t any worse than contributions that you and I have made on this site. And it’s just a nickname. Breathe, baby. Breathe.

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by section214 on Feb 28, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate awful sports nicknames

We’ve had some of the worst for years…all the first letter-last name ones like C-Webb, J-Will, K-Mart, etc.; all the Jerry Reynolds ones like Tasmanian Slovenia, Hawesome, and Buckets; and now we’re coming up with ones that sound like horrible underground rap groups that try to hand out their CDs in front of Dimple Records for three bucks.

I also don’t like giving guys different nicknames when they already have good ones.

"Matthews, like so many before, did not expect the Yeti. No one ever expects the Yeti." ~ Ziller

by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 28, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

What's wrong with

the Tasmanian Slovanian?

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 28, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

double dammit

maybe triple it. Aren’t avatars nicknames of a sort?

Nickname success is a meritocracy – if it is awful (and this one may be to you) than it will be ignored. Otherwise it is a fun way to attach labels to players.

Think of this guy:

and be very mad. Be the maddenator. The madarooski. The madmadmadmadworlder. The …

by betweentheeyes on Feb 28, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I have no idea who that guy is

Maybe the reason it annoys me is because he already has what I think is an awesome nickname, and I don’t want it to change to one I think is awful.

"Matthews, like so many before, did not expect the Yeti. No one ever expects the Yeti." ~ Ziller

by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 28, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Dorse Stop

copyright Andy Sims, 2010.

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by section214 on Feb 28, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The Kraken

Copyrighted by the Dream Shake, whenever they made it up.

"Matthews, like so many before, did not expect the Yeti. No one ever expects the Yeti." ~ Ziller

by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 28, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That one dose nothing for me

But that’s the point. You like it, roll with it. Somebody else wants to call him something different? What is the freakin’ harm?

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by section214 on Feb 28, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Nothing. I'm over it.

Needed a fresh tampon apparently.

"Matthews, like so many before, did not expect the Yeti. No one ever expects the Yeti." ~ Ziller

by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 28, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

back in the day

when Saturday Night Live used to be funny…

Rob Schneider plays the annoying water cooler guy in the Makin’ Copies skits who is always nicknaming everyone and he is annoying as all get out.
I will try and get a youtube clip for you to see the stuff your parents/grandparents thought was funny. I will place in the disclaimer – you had to be there.

crap – NBC Universal has removed all SNL skits from youtube.com it is just as well – it was a zany wacky side splitting, knee slapping, whiz bang of a good time.

by betweentheeyes on Feb 28, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

We never actually thought Rob Schneider was funny right?

We don’t have to admit that, right?

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Feb 28, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Deuce Bigelow

better as a skit. And they made sequels. There is no accounting for taste.

The funniest thing he ever did was the Copy Makin’ guy.

by betweentheeyes on Feb 28, 2010 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Ehhh

It’s not horrible, I was just trying to give an example of a nickname. I couldn’t think of old nicknames at that second. I should’ve said since “C-Webb” or something.

"Matthews, like so many before, did not expect the Yeti. No one ever expects the Yeti." ~ Ziller

by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 28, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Expectations:

Tyreke goes off for 20pts, 7 rebs, 7 assists.
Wabeno almost matches him with 18 pts, 5 rebs, 6 assists.
Landry becomes the man down low with 25pts, 6 rebs, 2 assists.
Hawes is solid with 12 pts, 7 rebs, 4 assists.
Omri settles down with 10 pts, 6 rebs, 3 assists and 2 3ptrs.
Donte plays for 15 mins and logs in 7 pts, 3 rebs, 1 assist.
Cisco plays for 18 mins and ends up with 8 pts, 2 rebs and 1 assist.
Noce plays for 8 mins and has 5 pts, 1 reb, 1 assist with 1-2 3pters.
Ime plays for 10 mins and has 3 pts, 1 reb and anchors at least 1 defensive stop.
Dorsey has 1 monstrous dunk plus 2 rebs in limited PT.
McGuire has 1 rebound and plays good D.

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Feb 28, 2010 3:51 PM PST reply actions  

pretty good there NoceOne

The ESPN Accuscore has the Kings victorious at 106 -101. I counted 105 points in your precise prediction.

by betweentheeyes on Feb 28, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

last time

We were nervous with the new players. Now, we’ve got our courage back. We won’t lose to the nail clippers. Let’s go Kings.

Sure we could’ve got the 1st pick of the draft, but apparently 1st isn’t always the best. They said that Griffin was the man to have for the 2009 draft. Now where is the pick of the draft? He’s in Sacramento and catching everyone’s eyes. God am I so glad they gave us 4th pick. I love Tyreke and what he’s done. Have fun enjoying your ROTY award Tyreke.

by MexicanSKFan2Death on Feb 28, 2010 5:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

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