Post-Game Thread: Clippers at Kings
by Tom Ziller on Feb 28, 2010 8:45 PM PST
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...I'm not THAT excited over a win over the Clippers...
…Well, ok, maybe this pic made me a bit more excited.
Anyone else feel like the Clipps..
Are better off with Blake instead of Baron? Man, that was a horrible signing.
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by jjham15 on Feb 28, 2010 8:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions
$42 million for the three years after this one
Holy shnikey!
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Still better than Agent Zero
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Blake is solid
and Baron isn’t Mr. Big Shot any more.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 28, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
I think the same thing
about the Warriors without Monta Ellis.
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Can we attribute this win to good defense and taking care of the ball?
We were terrible from the line, got outrebounded and didn’t shoot the lights out…
But held the clips to 37.3% and only had only 9 TO.
Is that thread about Westphal being the main reason for Kevin's departure and a dick for benching our 21 year old center a little silly...
now that Spencer is playing the best b-ball of his career?
Yes and no
Many did not oppose PW’s benching of Hawes, but objected to Westphal’s douchey approach in the media. On the other hand, his wife was very sick at the time and that may have been a factor.
I stand by my statement that if a coach wants professionalism and respect, well, that starts at the top.
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And 1 -
Hawes has had better stretches. The question is, can he harness it this time and really prolong it?
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I think so and thought so at the time.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Beat on the boards again,
and the difference was the bench. JT could help in that aspect when he returns.
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I really missed JT tonight. Wins are great, but something was missing
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
What we lose on the boards
We gain in better decision making and offensive flow. I am a JT fan but only as a bench player until he improves his footwork, his decision making and his emotional response to certain situations. This lineup just seems more composed and more confident and I am happy with it.
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 28, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
With, with, with
I see JT as an energy guy off the bench, a guy that can play with either Landry or Hawes (more time with Landry, less time with Hawes). I think that JT could be really effective against opposing team’s second units, especially if he doesn’t really have to worry about foul trouble anymore.
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I think so, too.
JT is like a PF/C version of Vinne “Microwave” Johnson.
I am officially on the Landry bandwagon
He is bringing exactly what we thought Kevin would bring us when he came back. Another offensive option when teams try to smother Tyreke especially in the fourth quarter. It’s only 2 wins but I like what I see. Also it looks like coach Westphal’s “Phil Jackson” approach to Spencer is working too. Well done Kings.
I love beating dead horses.
Landry really helped us to win these past two games.
I’ve been on the bandwagon since the beginning.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I want Tyreke to have my babies
On a side note, I’m watching the end of the NO-Dal game and Peja is balding very badly lol.
for those of us with lots of hair
I’m betting that Omri balds worse than Peja does
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Collison with 32
Western Conference ROM is going to be interesting.
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I didn't either
He hits a fade away on the baseline to cut it to 7, then walks down and calmly hits a three.
It's very possible he is a good basketball student & studied CP3
as he should have.
I love beating dead horses.
New Orleans has probably the best point guard
and best backup point guard in the NBA. Denver’s combo of Chauncey and Lawson aint bad, and neither is Houston’s Brooks and Lowry.
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Reke and Beno obviously aren't on that level
yet. We have a pretty decent pairing as well. Who would have expected that at the beginning of the season.
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by Neil Manich on Feb 28, 2010 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
Can Spence finally string together 3 solid peformances?
Usually it’s two good games and then a stinker. Hawes school be able to school Nenad.
Anyone else really like OKC’s rookie Serge Ibaka? I’d love to get a promising shot blocking/rebounding big like him in our rotation.
he’s been solid overall the past 20 games or so, in my opinion. But these last two games, stellar. I’ve always thought he has a high basketball IQ and is a great teammate; now he’s really improving and delivering.
Big difference these last two games.
It is almost as though he is a different player. He is moving so much better than he did.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
He has been getting better
the last two games his contributions have been much more clear. I hope he can finish this season strong.
The last couple games haven't been a lot different than the last 20 except for two things
1) He’s making every shot, which obviously isn’t going to continue
2) PW doesn’t have much choice other than to leave him in, so when Kaman scored back to back baskets for example, Spencer didn’t get the hook and have to sit the rest of the game.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
I agree with both your points.
The point I was trying to make and perhaps you do not agree with it. When I say that Spencer was “moving so much better.” I mean that literally. Before, Spencer stood around a lot, often looking kind of stiff and awkward in his body movements. These last two games, he has been more active, moving more, and his actual body movement looks more fluid to me. As I say, he looks like a different player to me.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I posted this earlier in another thread but Spencer does better when he plays more than 28mpg
Both last year and this year when Spencer plays more the 28 mpg his points double to 14ppg and his rebounds go from 4.5 to 8.0. The average mpg goes up goes up 60% but his scoring goes up 100% and his rebounds go up almost 80%. He just seems to get more comfortable the more minute he’s allowed to play. Or, maybe he’s allowed to play when he’s more comfortable and performs better.
As for the last 2 games, Spencer was allowed to get into the offense earlier in the game, and produced. I think that was a decision made by the coaching staff, as was the decision to start Beno, so that Tyreke wouldn’t have to carry the bulk of the responsibilty to initiate the offense. And, it worked.
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Statistically, he's had much better games
(as section pointed out) Higher field goal %‘s, more rebounds, more blocks, etc. In the last two games, Spencer’s had a different energy, in my opinion- more focus and determination on both ends of the floor, and always in tune with the flow of the game.
He hasn’t been “making every shot” – (7/13 and 8/16- not much higher than his season average), but he’s more determined in drawing charges, making quick outlet passes, moving without the ball, fighting for rebounds and defending the rim- every minute he’s on the floor. He’s shown glimpses of that attitude in the past, but he brought it every minute the last two games, in my opinion. Those little things that don’t necessarily show up in the stat sheet would turn this team around.
Good win
Would of been great if we could of continued the performance of the first half, but got the key shots we needed to win so it stays good.
All who are interested Collison is solidifying his ROM for Feb by going off for 32 so far against Dallas. Only guy on NO besides Thornton (and a little Peja) keeping it interesting.
Win's a win
But I really don’t understand why Udoka is getting minutes at the expense of Casspi and Donte. Frankly I think it’s more important for those guys to get playing time than for the team to get wins at this point in the season.
Other than that, good to see Spencer playing so well, Garcia beginning to get into shape, and Beno was a pretty good playmaker. Reke and Landry = clutch. Plenty of reasons to be excited about next season.
by nbrans on Feb 28, 2010 9:02 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I just got home from the game
And I was sitting there wondering the same damn thing. Donte’ blocks a guy and then get the dunk on the break out… ONLY to sit on the bench! Right after that??? WTF
Then Udoka does his scoreless wonder routine and good D routine, to play more minutes. I can see we kept Outlaw and some of the wings quiet that way, but then we lose offense… It seems at minimum a wash.
Udoka was on Gordon
Gordon did nothing. It was a good move. Udoka kind of just disappeared into the fray, but that was fine, because so did Gordon. We don’t need to have five offensive-minded players on the floor at the same time; Evans, Landry, Hawes, Beno can handle the scoring, and Udoka can just pass the ball and shoot open jumpers.
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by CaliforniaJag on Feb 28, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
But Donte is more effective when he’s guarding bigger, slower players. The smaller guys just run him around screens.
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by CaliforniaJag on Feb 28, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
True and if Udoka stayed in while Tyreke sat..
Then that would make sense, but I think that was Garcia and Udoka played SF.
Right
And for the season he has averaged 9 in 22 minutes, and has been called upon from time to time exclusively for his defense.
I want to be clear here. This is not questioning Westphal on my part. This is just a personal desire to see guys like Casspi and Greene play instead of Udoka. I’d rather see Brockman or Dorsey instead of Sean May. That’s just me.
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Well, maybe it is the matchup.
We’ve seen both guys playing little mins against the likes of Tayshaun Prince and Andrei Kirilenko because they seemed ineffective against them. Maybe PW thinks Ime was better suited to handle Gordon/Outlaw?
There can only be one Noce!
Maybe
And it’s Westphal’s job to win games. I, however, am not tethered by such restraints. I want my baby Royals!
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hahaha. And I want Noce to play.
Sucks to be me!
(and you, a little bit, I guess) :-)
There can only be one Noce!
Noc deserves better
I’m not pitying a guy pulling down his level of coin, but he would be so good off the bench for a contender. Stupid bloated contract.
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Yeah. All I can hope for is he gets traded in the offseason.
Maybe to the Raptors.
There can only be one Noce!
Tonight was the perfect example
of the whole winning games vs. developing the young guys discussion. Yes, we could’ve maybe won with Omri and Donte in there, but PW thought Ime gave the team a better chance to win. He went for it, and at least this time, he was right
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I agree
If given the choice right now, winning is more important than developing the young guys. Obviously PW feels that way too.
This team needs to build a winning attitude entering into the off season and then for next season. The young guys have all summer to work on their game.
Dorsey got his shot and sucked
That’s why May went in. I thought Dorsey was a better rebounder than he’s showed. I expected black Brockman, but I’ve seen something more closely resembling Fabricio Oberto.
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by CaliforniaJag on Feb 28, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
No, but they force the issue often
Greene should never, ever dribble the basketball. Casspi is decent on drives, but also puts up some prayers. Both players seem to have stretches where they decide once they touch the ball that they’re going to shoot it one way or the other. I’m not saying they’re not talented offensive players, but when Evans/Landry/Hawes/Beno are on the floor Greene or Casspi is the fifth option, and the fifth option shouldn’t be trying to create his own offense very often. That’s why all those Spurs teams (Bruce Bowen) and L****s teams (Rick Fucks, Robert Whorey) were so good…they had guys whose job was to play solid defense and hit open jumpers, and that was about it.
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by CaliforniaJag on Feb 28, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
Doug Christie
…. they had guys whose job was to play solid defense and hit open jumpers, and that was about it.
Exactly
Christie also helped initiate the offense and handle the ball, but yes, good example.
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by CaliforniaJag on Mar 1, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
Hehehe.
1) Well, i was speaking more in general terms. Like Rodman on the Bulls championship team, Bowen on the Spurs, Wallace on the Pistons…
2) Casspi and Greene aren’ black holes offensively but some players do amke a reputation on defensive skills. So when I need someone for defense, I’d probably go for the guy with the most defensive skills, even if he has limited offensive skills (Ime) because I know I’m gonna ride my superstar (Reke) on offense.
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yes, they're offensive guys, they're just really bad at it.
Casspi and especially Greene have moments of good or even very good defense and offense, but they are “moments” because they’re young.
Udoka is going to defer and take what’s there on offense, Casspi and Greene think they are weapons.
And Greene sat some last night for the showboating dunk I’m convinced.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
Ime knows his role....
He’s not going to take bad shots or try and do too much. He’s going to play solid D and hit a jumper once in a while.
We don’t have Bruce Bowen or James Posey…we have Ime Udoka.
Fair enough
Though I don’t recall Gordon doing that much when Udoka was out of the game, either.
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It was a matter of mismatches
Beno isn’t strong enough to play Gordon, and Evans was on Davis. That meant either Casspi or Greene had to cover Gordon, and he just missed open shots in the first half (2/5 shooting, missed an open three, a layup, and an open mid-range jumper). Udoka was in to prevent Gordon from torching us like he did last game; he was actually able to stay with Gordon.
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by CaliforniaJag on Feb 28, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
I think Westphal said it well in the postgame presser
They are trying to win and develop the players at the same time, and they aren’t gifting them minutes, they are making them earn them. Udoka probably made the play of the game tonight, so it’s hard to complain with the results.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 28, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
I think it was important for the team to get another win and get some confidence. It’s hard to deal with losing, especially for a young time. Donte and Omri will get their chances.
I hope this is the starting lineup that PW will stick with, for a while. It seems to work well, especially with Tyreke and Beno in the backcourt.
Landry’s looking better and better. His high FT% is crucial in the 4th quarter.
Dunking Dutchman
he's closing out games on the defensive end....our veteran
who made a great steal to close this one out
ucla is right
It’s ok to let Donte & Omri get a lot of time but if you want to win games experienced vets know how to get it done in crucial situations. Tonight proved that
I love beating dead horses.
Who cares about winning?
Rah rah and all that, but I’d much rather lose some games with the young guys getting crunch time experience than win with vets who aren’t going to be around next year stealing their minutes.
Also,
I would have bought Udoka’s late game insertion earlier in the year, but Greene has played some good defense (he had a big steal late earlier this year) and Casspi was solid defensively early in the game. We need to see what these kids can do with the game on the line.
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You play to win the game.
Pretty much sums it up. The kids have gotten plenty of PT this season. Last I checked, we’re still starting two rookies and two third-year players.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 28, 2010 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
I'll take the winning, it is good for morale.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Any chance Udoka returns?
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Playing Greene or Casspi doesn't guarantee a loss, does it?
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No it doesn't . Your'e right.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
No it doesn't
I actually think they are good crunch time players. I just find it hard to complain when we win.
I love beating dead horses.
I agree
I dont think playing Ime over Casspi is some guarantee of a win. I would think that developing players is the most meaningful thing we can do, and I hardly think it is risking a win to play Greene or Donte, or seen more of Cisco in the fourth rather than Ime.
by MichaelMack on Feb 28, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
They are both important...
but when the team has lost so many games, winning is important to maintaining a positive mental outlook and developing confidence. Those are important factors to have, while working to develop players. Success reinforces learning.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I'm sure the kids like winning too
They are getting plenty of playing time & as far as crunch time performance goes I think either you have it or you don’t. I don’t think more crunch time play is going to magically turn them into clutch players. It never worked for Peja.
I love beating dead horses.
all true but it's important to change the culture of the team as well...
casspi and donte are learning that if they want to be on the floor in the closing minutes of the game they need to play solid D. I think Donte is starting to catch on.
We’ve had a culture of losing the last few seasons and we can’t let a young team fall into that sort of pattern. It was fine when we had no talent but now we’ve got some pieces. Look at the Clips and the Warriors…lots of years with young promising talent but they never go anywhere. Their players are happy enough just getting paid.
Do you think that's true of Donte and Casspi?
Both are good defenders who play hard. What do they have to learn from Ime by watching from the bench?
I think Donte and Casspi are well on their way but they're still pretty green
PW just did what he needed to do to win the game. Ime will probably be gone next year and we’ll see a lot more Donte and Casspi closing games out.
I don't think playing Donte' and Casspi means we lose.
We gain a bit of defense, not tons, and we give up way too much offense.
I agree.
Occasionally he hits a three, but he is not a good offensive player, and I am still not sold on PW, his decision making is rather unique.
by MichaelMack on Feb 28, 2010 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with everything that you say here, 06
But, I feel that Casspi and Greene have shown enough to get the opportunity to close out a game like this. This isn’t a major sticking point for me, and I’m thrilled with any win. The cherry on top would have been watching tomorrow’s team finish the game.
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To further back up this point
Cause I am a little bit ticked. Casspi got 12 points in 28 minutes. Donte got 7 points in 6 minutes. Then Udoka plays 20 minutes and scores only 3 points.
The thing is that Casspi could not stop Outlaw and because of that PW put in Udoka, but when Outlaw came out Udoka stayed in and he should not have. We lost offense.
I am not totally positive
but I think Udoka was put into the game to guard Eric Gordon. Gordon is 6’3". PW might have thought Donte at 6’10 and Omri at 6’9" would be too slow or too tall to get through picks. Ime at 6’5’ is better match.
But overall, I agree I don’t want to see Ime on the floor. Especially with Cisco getting healthy. He can take those minutes.
Hmm..
I would have to go back and check. Maybe he stayed in because they rotated Tyreke out who had been in Gordon.
Cisco wasn't playing smart defense
He kept hacking guys on the arm or overplaying shot fakes. Udoka is probably our smartest defender. I’d rather see McGuire than Udoka probably, but Cisco would’ve gotten eaten alive by Gordon.
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by CaliforniaJag on Feb 28, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
Cisco's still playing himself back into shape
Those two straight makes were pretty sweet, though. He’s coming along nicely and that’s going to be a nice three-guard rotation with Ime getting some D time.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 28, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
all three of those guards can bring the ball up or play off guard, and at least capable of stepping up defensively.
by MichaelMack on Feb 28, 2010 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
my whole family
was wondering why Ime was in instead of Cisco
by MichaelMack on Feb 28, 2010 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
Here's where I get frustrated too
It’s not like Outlaw went off or anything. He made a few buckets, great. It happens. It’s not like he was taking over the game or that Casspi was getting killed. PW’s coaching makes no sense to me. There’s no rhyme or reason to it.
This is true...
He made a few buckets and burned Casspi a few times. I was giving PW a little bit of a benefit of the doubt here, but I get you. When Outlaw came out and they kept Udoka in on Gordon I was a bit frustrated.
PW seems to react so quicky and so drastically
to the ebb and flow of the game, I think it is part of why we have lacked cohesiveness and rythym at times.
by MichaelMack on Feb 28, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
I was even more frustrated when they took Donte' out.
He had just made a killer block and the dunk on the other end.
I'd like to see Donte play more too...
but I do think that PW has done a great job coaching up Donte. He’s a much more efficient player this year. He takes better shots and plays better D.
It’s going to be interesting to see whether Casspi or Donte get the bulk of the minutes in the future.
I have a feeling that Donte caught bench for...
the hand behind the head hot dog bullshit on the dunk. The Kings are now a 20 win team and clearly not good enough to show up another team. If Donte wanted to get the crowd excited then he could have done a cool but classy dunk. The hand behind the head thing was pretty doucheé.
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by jjham15 on Feb 28, 2010 10:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Good point JJ
I just saw the replay of the play and didn’t notice the hand live. He got pulled right after that play so I’m assuming it had something to do with that. I actually have no problem with PW making that decision.
He’s been saying for a while that the coaching staff has been trying to get that extra out of Donte’s game and I guess the hand behind the head was uncalled for. If we were the other team’s fans we’d be upset too.
This shows a bit of consistency in PW’s part as well, in terms of what’s expected from young guys and in terms of ‘punishment’ if we want to call it that.
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Discipline is the correct word for that.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I didn't notice the hand either
I was actually kind of disappointed in the dunk…he didn’t get very much air.
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by CaliforniaJag on Mar 1, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
I agree to an extent about playing the young guys, but I think they need to pull one out here and there.
This club has lost so many close ones this season that they really do need to try to win a few at all costs just to keep the morale up. It didn’t seem to impact them earlier in the year, but lately it seems like they totally get waxed after losing a close one, so I think it was important to lock up a second win before hitting the road.
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I took a look at the Kings schedule for March
it looks brutal bit a chance to be a real spoiler,playing for pride and self respect is an educational experience for a youg team but I sure like what I saw tonight
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I have them a 8-13 the rest of the way,
with an error range of 100%.
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I think there's a good chance Donte starts against OKC....
Casspi doesn’t have much of a chance to stay with durant
should be a fun one w/ Westbrook vs Evans
Two similar players. Hopefully they end up guarding each other but it will likely be Beno on Westbrook and Thabo on Evans.
Thabo may cover Evans,
but I bet Evans covers Westbrook.
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If you're the Kings,
you’d love for OKC to try to take advantage of that matchup.
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The nightmare situation
It’s not Westbrook – it’s the guy backing him up…for now…
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Me, too
If he’s 6-7, Beno is 6-4. If he is 6-5, then Beno is 6-2. Bottom line, Thabo is 3 inches taller and definitely longer than Beno.
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Tyreke wasn't really efficient today
But he came in clutch when needed and that is what is important.
Durant puts up huge numbers but is a 4th quarter non factor
by southern oregon on Feb 28, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
Tryeke has a long way to go to be an efficient player...
The boy can’t shoot and he dribbles with his head down like a running back to the basket sometimes….but he was clutch today like he’s been many times in the past. He has the chance to be a special player with the right improvements.
He's pretty efficient now
4th among all rookies in points per shot (just behind DeJuan Blair).
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I'm not speaking to his overall efficiency compared to other players....
but more that he has a very high ceiling. He has the potential to be a 1st team NBA type player.
So anyone notice how Tyreke's game-clinching lay-up was this exact situation as presented by Ginobli
Kings win!! Kings win!!
Great win to be at. Very good defensive stretches by this team.
At least for a couple games, the good Spencer Hawes is showing up. Keep it up big man!! This is the guy we envision, the one who can stretch the floor, make good decisions at running the O off the high post, and shwoing the effort on the defensive end. You can tell he’s being active and protecting the rim as much as possible. Hawesome!
Beno was a bit quiet but he spaces the floor and helps keep the ball movement, which is always great. His ball handling helped Tyreke concentrate in scoring late, it’s a positive thing.
Reke was great down the stretch. He’s learning the two man game with Spence; a great sight. If he gets that down, he can make his teammates better on a consistent basis. In the clutch, he usually comes through. ROY
Omri is still a bit off but it was good to see him contribute with some points and boards.
Landry is a good option to have and I can see why Petrie wanted him. When it seemed like nothing was working on O, we just went to him in the low post and he created or got to the line. Aside from two missed FTs, he made the rest and we needed them (the FT struggles continue a bit).
I don’t know why Donte got so little burn but he was very effective in limited minutes. 7 points, 3-4 shooting and one block. I love his energy when he’s in the game and even more when he’s out cheering for his teammates. Can’t question his minutes because the team won and he’s buying into that role.
Cisco was active as always but had some bad fouls throughout. He redeemed himself by stopping a Clips run in the 4th and hitting a clutch jumper and a 3 to give the Kings more breathing room. Slowly but surely, the Cisco kid is coming back
Ime played very good defense on Gordon in the 4th and was a big reason we were able to close out this game. That save in the last minute could easily be the play of the game. We were only up one and without getting that ball back, we could’ve been down 1 instead of up 3 (after Reke made his layup).
PW seemed to have a rotation in mind and was able to stick to it. I’m sure many here apprwciate that. Staying with Ime down the stretch was smart and the right call. He deserves credit for that.
Had a good time with Player to be Named Later. He’s a good dude and seatmate, and feels bad for the nickname thing (hahaha).
Overall a good win for the Kings. I don’t care if it was the Clippers, we’re not any good and it has to start somewhere. At the beginning of the season we were taking care of business against the other bad teams so we have to reestablish that. Protect the homecourt and beat the bad teams. Step by step. Go Kings baby!
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Agree with everything you said
since we already discussed it. LOL…thanks for the ticket; it was a blast. First win that I’ve attended this year; all the other games I’ve been to were losses.
Oh, and…NaROY? Stephen who?
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by CaliforniaJag on Feb 28, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Spot on
Very good assessment on all fronts. Well done.
by rstewartwest on Feb 28, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
Did Nocioni question his role?
Just wondering if I missed something with him not playing tonight. Injury?
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Haha
I was wondering. Also just found something on a knee bruise from Tuesday, but he played on Friday, so I assumed it was okay.
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I'd be really surprised if he did. Noce is a good soldier...
Now me, on the other hand, I’m pissed.
Not even 5 minutes at a point when we were up by 16pts?
Not even 3 mins when we were up by 10?
Not even till the 1st ill advised 3pointer (estimated to come at around the 1 min mark?)
I doubt PW will explain Noce’s DNP-CD so I’ll just stay pissed until the next time Noce plays.
There can only be one Noce!
Any know when Brockman is due back?
Too bad he and JT are out at the same time.
2-3 weeks for Brock
and JT a little before him
Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
That just happened.
By the way
Good to get these wins because a rought stretch is coming up: @OKC, @Houston, @Dallas, vs. OKC
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
That's my hope
But a 1-3 would be fine.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
2.5-1.5 (chess style)
2 wins (both against OKC)
1 loss (Dallas)
.5 for a good first half in Houston.
There can only be one Noce!
The .5 should be for a moral victory Noce
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Good call! Wait! How many moral victories do we have already?
Enough so we reach my pre-season prediction of 30wins?
There can only be one Noce!
Not yet
I think we got like 6 or 8 moral victories. We’re at 24 wins if we count those
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Wow. So we just need 3 actual wins and 6 moral victories to get to my prediction!
There can only be one Noce!
I think we'll get 30+ Noce
I think we can get about 7-8 more wins and maybe 3-4 moral victories. A good total of 35.
‘09-’10 season = success
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I like it!
Sign me up for that!
Who cares if the rest of the NBA do not count moral victories in the wins total! I do and I say we go for 35wins (actual and moral)!
There can only be one Noce!
Landry a refreshing change
It’s so nice to have a second go-to player in crunch time for a change. I think it takes a lot of pressure off of Tyreke and everyone else and opens the floor up for the rest of the players as well. It’s nice to have a player that when things get rough, you can dump the ball down to him and he’s got the ability to create and make shots and get to the line. His excellent free throw shooting is an obvious bonus in the fourth quarter, and he’s also a good counterpoint to the strengths of Hawes.
I think Petrie should be a strong contender for Executive of the Year and probably would have had a leg up for it if the team had not swooned in midseason. Picking Morey’s pocket is getting to be a nice habit. Here’s hoping the team closes strong.
Westphal is really tightening the rotation, and all three SFs are seeing their playing time capped while a pro like Ime continues to earn consistent minutes. It’s fun to watch Kings basketball again.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 28, 2010 10:56 PM PST reply actions
Now THAT's a dance worth posting!
Where did you find that??
by rstewartwest on Feb 28, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
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