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Tyreke Evans and Donté Greene. Discuss.

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Way to miss an opportunity, Post Raisin Bran.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Feb 3, 2010 9:41 PM PST reply actions  

WILL SOLOMON! KENNY NATT!

WILL SOLOMON! KENNY NATT!

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 3, 2010 9:42 PM PST reply actions  

WalaheimeneafgheSERGIO!

I Curse You!

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by Aykis16 on Feb 3, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Good effort by Tyreke

He never stopped playing.

Tough night for Kmart. Missed eight of his last nine shots. 0 for 4 in the fourth. That hurt.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 3, 2010 9:42 PM PST reply actions  

she can minister me

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by Ice_9ine on Feb 3, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Except for the fact that she's Chinese

m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!

by JediLeroy on Feb 4, 2010 2:22 AM PST up reply actions  

That's disappointing.

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 4, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Good effort

Gotta find a way of getting through the cold shooting stretches. Good too see more consistency from Spencer.

The future begins now...

by edm7 on Feb 3, 2010 9:43 PM PST reply actions  

Kings Lose

Everybody slap a random white guy in SLOW MOTION!

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by Aykis16 on Feb 3, 2010 9:43 PM PST reply actions  

Picture fail!!!

The future begins now...

by edm7 on Feb 3, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Aw really?

Its a good one.
http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1236682025_slow_motion_slap.gif

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by Aykis16 on Feb 3, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

link fail

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by iashwash on Feb 3, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

A well-contested and exciting game.

What else can I ask for? Maybe better 4th quarters?

by russak on Feb 3, 2010 9:43 PM PST reply actions  

4 better quarters might be more apt.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Feb 3, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Purple Pain

But it’s alright.

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by Hit4TheCycle on Feb 3, 2010 9:44 PM PST reply actions  

Spencer showed some great moves tonight

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 3, 2010 9:45 PM PST reply actions  

Best part of the night -

It was when Tyreke made the 3 at the end of the game, Pop was leaving towards the tunnel, turned around looking at Reke and just started shaking his head. That is respect.

"Even a fool is counted wise when he holds his peace; When he shuts his lips, he is considered perceptive." Proverbs 17:28

by kwill on Feb 3, 2010 9:45 PM PST reply actions  

The kid is special

We’re lucky to have him

The future begins now...

by edm7 on Feb 3, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think walking off the court with time left really shows the other team any respect.

And I think Pop is a hell of a coach.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Feb 3, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

My point was respect for Reke, not necessarily the team, but point taken

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by kwill on Feb 3, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Pop had the Spurs - 4 1/2 :)

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 3, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

George Hill is pretty good

Jerry has a lot of fun with that IUPUI stuff, too.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 3, 2010 9:46 PM PST reply actions  

ooey-pooey

It’s a Midwestern thing.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Feb 3, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Andy_Sims

Do i know u?

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by Howard Nevens IV on Feb 3, 2010 9:46 PM PST reply actions  

Evans led the team in points, assists, and rebounds

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by Ice_9ine on Feb 3, 2010 9:48 PM PST reply actions  

= pretty good player and NaPG

"Even a fool is counted wise when he holds his peace; When he shuts his lips, he is considered perceptive." Proverbs 17:28

by kwill on Feb 3, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It's nice to have at least one star who doesn't disappear in the 4th

Now we just need a couple more.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 3, 2010 9:48 PM PST reply actions  

francisco?

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by iashwash on Feb 3, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Could be

Like Noc, he’s never met a three ball he didn’t like.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 3, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

If Cisco plays well when he comes back and Kev doesn't step up,

does Garcia close at the game instead?

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 3, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe it will be Ray Allen closing the games

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 3, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha, I mentioned that in the Asinine thread, and people made fun of me

Ray Allen is super clutch, but I hope they stick with Kev

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 3, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?

Star? Consistent? Absence is making some hearts truly grow fonder. I love the guy, but he’s a utility infielder. Valuable, not anything like indispensable.

Perspective, y’all.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Feb 3, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Garcia not a legit starter.

Love Garcia but he’s a sixth man type. He’ll make us deaper if his game is still intact and can hopefully out perform any other of our bench players. Beno was a sixth man monster for a while but he’s fallen off unfortunately. Noc was a beast for the first month of the season but he’s fallen off and sergio is hit and miss. Also Donte isn’t sparkplug material. Brockman has even lost his sparkplug effect. Bobby Jackson in the day; Nice. Garcia can hopefully fulfill that role as he has done fairly consistantly since we’ve had him.

by Can'tSufferFools on Feb 4, 2010 1:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but a furious comeback is just wasted effort when you let the game get away from you.

It’s like saying you did a nice job cleaning up the floor, when you’re the one who took a dump on it.

SA is very good team, making it close counts for something, but Westphal can’t overlook the periods of poor play.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Feb 3, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

been away from it all today

but can anybody indulge me in the trade rumors that were mentioned today. Not that i care for them, but a friend informed me that ESPN were reporting something to do with kevin and ray allen….probably just talkin smack as usual though

by thisismellow on Feb 3, 2010 9:49 PM PST reply actions  

I dont see anything on espn.com about it and iff it were true it would make no sense to me

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by Howard Nevens IV on Feb 3, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Enough!

If Boston wanted to trade Ray Allen for Kevin, wouldn’t that mean that they think they have a better chance of winning a championship with Kevin than Ray? If we were to make that trade that would mean we, a bottom dweller, were disagreeing with a championship contender about personel. It’s not like we are talking about two different needs. They are both scoring 2guards. Except that Ray is clutch which meets the needs of a contender, BOSTON, and Kevin is younger, more productive and has more upside, which meets the needs of a growing team, SACRAMENTO. Petrie hasn’t been YODA when making trades, but as far as I know, he is not suffering from a head injury. Ray is averaging 15.9 ppg and will be 35 years old in July.

by Can'tSufferFools on Feb 4, 2010 1:57 AM PST up reply actions  

the exciting thing about Tyreke was that he was hitting some outside shots

and his release and footwork on the shot is much better. If, sorry make that when he develpis a consistent outside game… OMG

by betweentheeyes on Feb 3, 2010 9:50 PM PST reply actions  

Tyreke took advantage of the practice opportunity playing with a tough team.

He looked like he was out there having a great time, enjoying the challenge, playing basketball.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 3, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

If he can make that outside shot

He’s going to be a double handful instead of just a handful. That’s the missing link.

The Sergio and Tyreke pairing looked pretty good tonight, at least on the offensive side of the floor.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 3, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't care for the look of the Sergio/Evans duo

Sergio is useless wthout the ball and Tyreke is too used to intiating the offense, bad match

by betweentheeyes on Feb 3, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Tyreke hasn't learned to move and get himself free.

he simply relies on his own ability to beat his man off the dribble and bull rush the paint. Sergio as a playmaking PG has to have players working to get open, so they can receive the entry pass from Sergio, and continue to the rim or put up a high percentage jumper.

That’s why Sergio is a good backup for Tyreke but not a good backcourt mate.

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by HighTops on Feb 4, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Maybe the best explanation I've seen to why Tyreke & Sergio are so ineffective together.

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 4, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Reke is the greatest player in the history of the world.

Overstated, but even at 80% health Reke is too much too handle. His awesomness(if that’s a word) makes Kmart seem very one dimensional.

And I can’t believe I’m saying this, but Spence is a better overall player than JT at this point. Spence is a better. – passer, shooter, scorer, defender. JT the better rebounder.

by amonk81 on Feb 3, 2010 9:50 PM PST reply actions  

We know that about Spence

he just needs to show it more often

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 3, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the benching of Spence payed off

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by kwill on Feb 3, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Other new things that looked good...

Sergio playing along side Kmart and Reke.
Donte starting at the four.

by amonk81 on Feb 3, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Donté played well, he needs to grab some defensive rebounds

but then again even Hawes only had 6.

Donté was +10 in 37 minutes, Tyreke +5 in 38.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 3, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Hilton Armstrong was +7

DeJuan Blair was +3.

Armstrong > Blair.

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by section214 on Feb 3, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I barely remember Hilton playing

I get the point though. Plus/minus isn’t much good, at least for one game. Over the course of a season, I think it useful to spot certain trends. The cause and effect of those trends is where the argument lies.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 3, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Donte brings that element of athleticism that we sorely needed

I really like the dynamic that his game brings. I was wrong with giving up on him and am not ashamed to admit it.

"Even a fool is counted wise when he holds his peace; When he shuts his lips, he is considered perceptive." Proverbs 17:28

by kwill on Feb 3, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta be patient with young players

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by Howard Nevens IV on Feb 3, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Spencer is showing a lot of patience

He’s doing a good job of playing every possession and not fading out of the picture for huge stretches. Enouraging. Looking forward to seeing him and the boys vs. the Sunds Friday night at Arco.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 3, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be nice if JT started to show some patience too.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 3, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Your not even kidding

He could be such a good player if he got his head right, IMO

"Even a fool is counted wise when he holds his peace; When he shuts his lips, he is considered perceptive." Proverbs 17:28

by kwill on Feb 3, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

good thing is, these guys are still young.

I would be happy to see JT come off the bench for a couple games when he comes back. Let him play the other teams bench guys. Let him focus all that energy and hustle. Hell, imagine brining him and Brock at the same time. Complete change from Greene and Hawes.

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by Ice_9ine on Feb 3, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Spencer has shown a lot of improvement in the past month. Very encouraging.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 3, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, he always is.

Until he isn’t.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Feb 3, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Kmart > David Copperfield

We needed more from him when it counted.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 3, 2010 9:58 PM PST reply actions  

Shoulda woulda coulda

he will learn. It is a different team than when he left it.

But yeah, if he had scored 20 points, if a couple shots had gone in, if he had made all of his (only) 4 FTs, ugh, we woulda won.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 3, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Personally i think when Kevin got the Big contract he thought he was gonna bee the center piecee and now hes expendable i think maybe its messing with his head. THIS IS NOT MAKING AN EXCUSE. Im just trying to figure out whats going on with him right now

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by Howard Nevens IV on Feb 3, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I never saw anyone misspell "be" before.

Sorry, my jaw literally dropped.

I don’t think, given the makeup of the team at the time he got his deal, he was ever under that impression. Everyone needs to relax.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Feb 3, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

just give me the chance and I can misspell anything

I am the Tyreke Evans of keyboard mishaps and misspellings

by betweentheeyes on Feb 3, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Or -

it’s a bi-product of him missing over two months and coming back to an offense that is completely different than the one that was being run at the beginning of the season.

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by section214 on Feb 3, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 3, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Most good things take time.

We have a good backcourt now, which can be great given some time.

"Even a fool is counted wise when he holds his peace; When he shuts his lips, he is considered perceptive." Proverbs 17:28

by kwill on Feb 3, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I will say, the coaching has almost too many things to deal with.

I look forward to next season when they hopefully know their personnel a little better and can start to really dial in the offense.

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by Ice_9ine on Feb 3, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Good Night

Work at 4:30 am later guys great to be back

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by Howard Nevens IV on Feb 3, 2010 10:02 PM PST reply actions  

later Howard

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by kwill on Feb 3, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Missed the first half.

Seems like everyone played well but we just got beat by a team with more talent. Tyreke is a beast.

Interior defense killed us again. Spence played as well as he is capable from what I saw. Experience trumps youth.

As much as I like Brockman, I wish we could have picked up Blair in the draft.

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by nothingbutnet on Feb 3, 2010 10:09 PM PST reply actions  

Interior defense had nothing to do with it.

our guards and bigs were getting beat on top with the pick & roll. Nothing new,

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by HighTops on Feb 3, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn't Duncan and Blair combine for like 42 points.

Were they shooting jumpers?

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by nothingbutnet on Feb 3, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, and Spencer and Donte got 30 points

so maybe SA needs to improve their interior defense. I didn’t see Duncan scoring 20 pts going 1 on 1 against Spencer. Even Blair didn’t create on his own against Brockman.

It’s not who got the points but how they got the points. When your bigs get scored on off of penetration, you look to improve your backcourt defense first. I will give you that the KIngs needed more defensive rebounding from the front line.

But, with JT out and the Kings using Donte at PF, and the reserves going with Brockman and Noc, I think the rebounding is understandable.

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by HighTops on Feb 3, 2010 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

HT,

I really missed most of the game and just saw sporatic minutes of the second half. Baby sitting duty. I just made an assumption as this has been the story all year with respect to interior defense. When the other team is scoring tons of points in the paint its usually a lack of interior defense, hence my question about the jumpers.

I don’t understand why so many on this site get hostile.

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by nothingbutnet on Feb 4, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Curry tonight - 1-6, 6 points, 3 assists, 0 rebs

looks like Reke padded his lead quite a bit tonight

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by kwill on Feb 3, 2010 10:12 PM PST reply actions  

That's one for Reke!

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 3, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sorry but

Curry is no comparison to Tyreke. I absolutely hate hearing that. It’s like saying Gilbert Arenas & Dwayne Wade are the same because they have posted similar stats. Or Michael Redd to Wade. It is ridiculous. Heck or even Kevin Martin to Wade or Kobe. You get my point.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Feb 3, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you get the memo?

They gave the January rookie of the month award to Curry. And most anything that happens once is more likely to happen again. Don’t get all bothered by it, I didn’t say Curry was in the same league (no pun intended) as Evans. I said that Reke padded his stats. Nothing controversial about that, IMO.

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by kwill on Feb 3, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

4th Quarter Scoring

Tyreke 17
Hawes 4
Nocioni 3
Casspi 2
Brockman 2
Greene 2
Sergio 0
Kmart 0

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 3, 2010 10:16 PM PST reply actions  

Lack of size at PF really hurt

The Kings will never, and I mean never win a game if they try and compete in a jump shooting contest. They need to attack the basket.

Third play of the game and Duncan got away with an illegal screen, what else is new.

Jon Brockman, Ime and Sergio played 3 high pick and rolls as bad as they can be played at the end of the 1st quarter. PW was so pissed he pulled Brockman for May. Then he pulled May for Hilton. And, it continued later in the game when PW called a timeout, after Brockman and Sergio did it again. Really, this isn’t a rookie type mistake, this is basketball 101. There is no excuse for this type of play.

Your not going to get many offensive rebounds when you PF is outside the 3pt line. And, a frontcourt of Brockman at center and Noc at PF, can’t out rebound 6’7" rookie with no cartlidge in his knees. If we don’t get a starting PF at the trade deadline, the KIngs will be hard pressed to win 10 more games.

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by HighTops on Feb 3, 2010 10:52 PM PST reply actions  

We just need November/December JT back

And we’ll be fine. Tyrus Thomas would be a great pickup though.

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by Aykis16 on Feb 3, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on Feb 3, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Even with that JT back, we'll still woefully undersize and underskilled off the bench.

at this point I’d take anybody who could give us 20mpg of rebounding and decent defense. As long as Spencer and JT still get starters minutes.

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by HighTops on Feb 3, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Gulp...

Dare I say Kenny Thomas?!?

No, it can’t be true, that’s impossible.

by Mityt on Feb 4, 2010 5:15 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Yes, even our Beloved K9 is undersized at center, and offensively underskilled

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by HighTops on Feb 4, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on Feb 3, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I was surprised Brockman looked so lost tonite

He didnt seem to be very aware on defense, nor very active on the boards. He had a great night the other night, I was hoping he could replicate it.

by MichaelMack on Feb 4, 2010 2:01 AM PST up reply actions  

You may be right
If we don’t get a starting PF at the trade deadline, the Kings will be hard pressed to win 10 more games.

Just remember, it’s not about this year.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 4, 2010 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I have no delusions about this year

but whether we get a starting PF at the trade deadline or during the FA signing period next summer, we’re going to have to get one.

I think one of the fallacies about rookies needing PT to develop, is that when a team isn’t playing a coordinated offense or defense, they can’t learn proper technic. Every play is a scramble of disorganized effort. It leads to a lot of hustle and effort plays, but very few plays that rely on footwork and working with your teammates in an efficient effort.

Thats where the Kings young guys are missing the stablizing presence of a veteran big, who can defend his own man so the young bigs can concentrate on learning how to defend their man. A vet who can score but can help the young guys learn to score by making the other team have to defend the vet and not sag off.

I’m glad the young guys are getting extended minutes. I just wish it would be along side some talented vets, instead of other youngs guys who are also learning to play the game.

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by HighTops on Feb 4, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I looked into my crystal ball Chuck Barkley gave me

and if you wanna know what happens (more or less); Martin is outta here, so is Noce and K. Thomas. Kings are going to get an upgrade at point, move Reke to 2, and pick up another mediocre big—but they will also get a promising athletic big in draft.

Next year, without Martin, they’ll be a playoff bubble team but will probably still miss it thanks to another cursed Kings injury.

Two years from now, they’ll be back in playoffs.

The ball has spoken.

by VirginiaBlue on Feb 4, 2010 12:07 AM PST reply actions  

lol.

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by Viliphied on Feb 4, 2010 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Really

Aren’t balls the coolest thing?

Some balls are held for charity
And some for fancy dress
But when they’re held for pleasure
They’re the balls that I like best
My balls are always bouncing
To the left and to the right
It’s my belief that my big balls
Should be held every night

by MustangMBS on Feb 4, 2010 12:15 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d for AC/DC awesomeness

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on Feb 4, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Win Number 17...

… is looking pretty tough to get. It needs to happen before the All Star break so we can get over that mental block.

by Rickyflip on Feb 4, 2010 12:15 AM PST reply actions  

Just finished watching the replay and really......................not a bad game

The last 2:30 were incredible. I think this is the first game that I saw some visible emotion from ’Reke. Good play all around from ’Reke, Spencer,Omri and é. Just an impression, I think Sergio is thick as a brick. Interestingly good game without JT. Even though it was a loss this would have been a great game to start the All-Star break with.

"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson

by Bluejohn on Feb 4, 2010 12:33 AM PST reply actions  

Reke was smiling ear to ear - he was having a good old time for himself out there.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 4, 2010 2:15 AM PST up reply actions  

113pts and you lose

We need some D! Andre Iguadola for KMart straight up. Kmart shoots better, but if his offense is struggling he’s useless. Where AI’s D never takes a game off. Who would be able to score on AI, Reke, and DG

by elSAVinator on Feb 4, 2010 1:08 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

I've defended Martin as consistently as anyone

and I’m not blowing this out of proportion, hell I have a bad day at work about once a week, but I did not see professional focus on winning from Kevin last night. He had a really bad night, despite shooting well for a stretch.

Between not giving the effort on defense he can, the horrendous blown layup, and a couple of entitlement, “you have to give me the call” drives he didn’t get the call on, I was disappointed with Kevin’s play tonight.

Kevin needs to lead this team, and while I don’t expect him to make every shot, I do expect the moment he hits the floor to be worried about winning, and the effort I saw tonight was about individual play, and it was not about winning.

Like I said to start; I’m not indicting him for the past 3 weeks, I’m not blowing this out of proportion. Its one friggin night; but I thought it was a really bad night for Mr. Martin, it deserves mentioning because its unusual, and I hope to not see it very often in the future.

Free Omri...trade.Noc.

by ForThree on Feb 4, 2010 5:34 AM PST reply actions  

Agreed 4-3

I’m a staunch Kevin supporter, and yet he was one of the few Kings frustrating me last night.

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by Aykis16 on Feb 4, 2010 7:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Well said 4-3

The future begins now...

by edm7 on Feb 4, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

We scored 113 points and lost!

a few missed shots by KM may have hurt in this particular game – but is hardly why we are losing.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 4, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Not the only reason for certain

but his shooting is pertinent in the Evans/Martin backcourt discussion. Evans is a player who needs the ball. His backcourt mate needs to be someone who can shoot and doesn’t need the ball. If Martin isn’t the Martin of old, and can score at a high rate, then his weaknesses come into play. And, the team isn’t as good.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
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by HighTops on Feb 4, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

So low post defense isn't an issue?

Above you said that you would be happy to play anybody who can give 20 mpg of solid defense and rebounding. Sounds like K-9 would even be OK and then you dismiss lttg’s point about defense? You jump on the blame K-Mart express. How about Blair scoring 3 times his average and looking like he should be on track to be an all-star or something?

We lost this game because of our low post defense, lack of really. Spencer did good, so don’t get all bent, against Duncan, but other it sucked.

by MustangMBS on Feb 4, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

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