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THE SCOUTING REPORT

Brought to you by HighTops:

Phoenix is in 6th place in the West, and like the SAS had a very bad January ending the month with a 7-9 record.   For the season they’re 30-21, and 12-15 on the road, but they’ve already beaten us here in Sac and in Phoenix, and have won 14 of the last 16 meetings.   Their losing ways seem to be changing having won four straight with a winning margin of 8 pts and a scoring average of 110 points per game.   And, they expect to sweep their current road trip starting with the lowly Kings. (Not my words, it’s from the Suns website.)

The Kings played well against the Suns in the two losses, and actually outscored them from the field but lost the games by being outscored by 11 pts and 8 pts from the FT line.   The Kings also out rebounded the Suns.  In the Dec 15th game in Phoenix, Kenny Thomas had 18 rebounds and Amare had 21.   In the Jan. 5th game in Sac, Tyreke pulling down 11 and JT 10, while JRich lead the Suns with 9 and Amare pulled down 8.

The honors keep coming for the Suns; Amare and Nash were both named to the Western Conference All-Star starting lineup.   And, Channing Frye became the league leader in made 3pt shots (92), on Jan. 6th against Houston, after posting his 5th game of the season with 6 made 3’s.

The one change since our last meeting is that Robin Lopez has started the last 10 games at Center, and Frye has moved to the bench.   As a starter, Lopez is averaging 13 ppg, 6 rpg, and 1.2 blks in 25.6 mpg while shooting .654 FG% and .784 FT%.  The other starters remain the same.  Nash is averaging 16.8 ppg and 11.3 apg on .453 FG% and .468 3P%.   JRich is scoring 12.2 ppg & 6.5 rpg on 42% shooting from the field but only 21% (8-37) from 3pt range.   Grant Hill is still putting up good number, .494 FG%, .462 3P% and .893 from the FT line, but only averages 11 pts/4 rebs per game.   And finally, Amare who is making sounds like he may not opt out of his contract at the end of the season, but is playing like a man looking for a big payday.   He is averaging 23 pts, 9.2 rebounds, and 1.4 blks on 53% shooting.

With JT out for personal reasons, the Kings are woefully undersized and can’t match up with Phoenix’s big man rotation of Lopez, Stoudemire, Frye, and Amundson.   I have to believe that PW told Thomas to start warming up right after the SAS game, so the only question is who will be in a suit, Hilton or May.   Beno is listed, as day to day, so hopefully he’ll be available.   The Kings could use him if Martin starts to lose his stroke as he did in the end of the Spurs game.   Our one ray of hope lies with Tyreke who has averaged 24.0 points, 8.5 rebounds and 7.0 assists in two games against the Suns.

After the horrible way the Kings defended the pick & roll in the Spurs game, the site of Nash entering Arco doesn’t bode well for the Kings in spite of the fact that Nash has been hampered by an abdominal strain.   Add to that an offense that has dropped to 21st in the league, and a defense that’s rated 24th and giving up 107 ppg; and it paints a pretty bleak picture.   For the Kings just to compete is going to take some of the best performances of the season from our young core, and probably the career game from someone like Armstrong or May.  Let’s hope Westphal can come up with some of his rotational magic, and find a couple of line ups that can compete with another opponent that’s likely to go far into the post season.

Thanks to HighTops, as always. His Key Points should be in the comments shortly.

THE KEY BATTLE

Evans vs. Nash. The Kings figure to lose the battle between Amare and J.T.'s replacement (likely Greene), so it's vital the difference is made up in the backcourt. And there, you have to pray Evans can get to the line frequently. Phoenix fouls infrequently relative to the league, despite rather poor guard defense. But Reke has shown a real skill in drawing fouls, and knocking Amare out of the game early would be divine.

BOLD PROCLAMATION

Channing Frye will miss more three-pointers than Sean May.

BOLD BROCKLAMATION

That tank of lobsters never stood a chance.

DETAILS

7 PM tip. Game Threads at 7 and 8:15, a post-gamer at 9:45.

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Greene lose the frontcourt battle with Amare?

Nah, the SSRS says otherwise.

GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims

by iashwash on Feb 5, 2010 2:02 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Keys to win: Play Chapu

"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"

by chapuforyou on Feb 5, 2010 2:04 PM PST reply actions  

Jeez. Obsessed with penguins a bit much are we?

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 5, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Google image search.

This guy came up and his name is Red Chapu-tux.

You can’t possibly accuse me of manipulating the entire world of Japanese Freaky Anime.

StR Token Female

by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 5, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I can. But it would be difficult for me to prove and I have other things to do this decade.

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 5, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

He can't but I will

Not really sure how you can manipulate small, Japanese freaky Anime, but I like it. Now if you could manipulate Pokemon back into style so I can sell all my old cards and retire before I turn 21 (in three months) I would be oh-so grateful.

by Gilo424 on Feb 5, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for making me feel old.

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 5, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Your welcome

Its what I do best I am told

by Gilo424 on Feb 5, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You aren't Oedipus are you?

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 5, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

No clue who or what that is

So i’m going to guess no.

by Gilo424 on Feb 5, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

might want to wikipedia that one

either that, or read Oedipus Rex

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

by the way, that would be a bizarre screen name to have

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha, that is the funniest thing I have heard all week, Gilo, you are awesome

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 5, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

is that the Linux Penguin?

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

From what I recall in the last meeting of these two teams

Mancakes shut down Amare a bit in the 4th quarter, no? Maybe if Greene does start and has a hard time with Stoudemire, the husky Husky will get an early shot at him.

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 5, 2010 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

I prefer "the Girthy Husky".

He doesn’t need three more inches.

"Thou must give props" - Ice_9ine

by tomroadrunner on Feb 5, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not quite sure what you are referring to there. Or why you have an opinion on Brockman's girth. Just, odd.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 5, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Mmmhmm.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 5, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

TNWSS

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 5, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Lol

"Thou must give props" - Ice_9ine

by tomroadrunner on Feb 5, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

well at we least we get an easy one tonight...

WTF???? When can we play the Nets again…We’ve played a good team (meaning above average to outstanding) like 4 out of eveyr 5 games it seems….We need some let up in the schedule.

That being said… Go kings!

"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes

by debrixtha1 on Feb 5, 2010 2:10 PM PST reply actions  

Your statement is perfect proof of why winning is so difficult to accomplish in the NBA (and any sport really).

It should also make you realize how difficult it is to win lots of games. Most teams have similar problems.

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 5, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s also perfect proof of just how difficult it is to win in the Western Conference

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Well good teams come & go.

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 5, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

and in some respect it also points

to how difficult it is to lose so often. The Nets are 4-44 – incredibly difficult to accomplish

by betweentheeyes on Feb 5, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow a bowling analogy.

That’s fearsome Wally.

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 5, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Hey it's Chris Paul's second favorite "sport."

Plus the movie Kingpin was one of the most underrated stupid comedies of all time.

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Great point on Kingpin.

Bill Murray was classic in that.

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 5, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

we got munson'd tonight

"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes

by debrixtha1 on Feb 5, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

got my one and only chuckle for the night

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Or like trying to only drink one beer

While watching every episode of Its Always Sunny In Philadelphia.

by Gilo424 on Feb 5, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, I'm a good bowler

I might be able to do that for a while if I tried.
(not that I would)

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 5, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

This must be some record for number of wins to losses

At the rate they are going, they should get the first draft pick with no lottery.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 5, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly

we never get to play the Kings to pad our win total…

Free Omri...trade.Noc.

by ForThree on Feb 5, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

This might be by first Dorky Fandom Glass-Half-Full comment here but I think it's an appropriate time for it.

GO KINGS! PUT ON YOUR SHIT KICKERS AND KICK SOME SHIT!

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 2:12 PM PST reply actions  

I like it.

For some strange unidentifiable reason I like it.

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 5, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I can see Brockman come to the game tonight with “Shit Kickers”written in permanent marker on his shoes

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on Feb 5, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Maybe he can tweet all about it.

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 5, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Scouting Report Game Keys

Tyreke & Nash: Evans needs to play defense like he did the last 5 minutes of the SAS game, but for 36minutes: I don’t know how badly Nash is hampered by his abdominal strain, but if Tyreke can play him tight, and get some steals early, we should be able to limit his assists to under 9.

Martin & JRich: JRich isn’t hitting the 3 ball. Martin can play off and limit penetration and close off the passing lanes. I’d like to see more shots taken in the paint, especially early in the game, so more ‘and 1’s’. I also think that instead of setting screens with the bigs, Tyreke could set a screen on JRich, and then if they switch Nash would have to stop Kevin from cutting into the lane for a short jumper. If they don’t switch, it would be an easy way to get Evans the ball, and attacking the rim.

Spencer and the Suns Bigs: My guess is that PW will start Spencer & Donte at Center & PF again. Amare isn’t really a back down type of offensive play, and Donte’s quickness and length might bother him. I expect Thomas to come off the bench for Spence because of his interior defense and rebounding and May for Donte because we’re going to need his offense.

Omri & Hill: I think Omri is the wild card. The Kings need to run a lot of iso’s for Omri and get him a lot of looks. He needs to get about 20/8 for the Kings to have a chance.

Suns might not sweep this road trip but they might just start off with a win. The Kings can’t win if they lose the FT battle for the 3rd time, so they need to attack the basket and draw some fouls of their own. I like the Sun’s by 8, especially without JT. To win the Kings are going to have to score in the paint, and from the 3, and stop Nash. Go Kings.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Feb 5, 2010 2:23 PM PST reply actions   4 recs

Wow a wow is needed every time.

Whatever hightops said times 2. New month, better play. Hopefully. LET’S DO IT KINGS! DEFEND YOUR THROWN! SINCE WE HAVENT BEEN DOING IT MUCH!

Sure we could’ve got the 1st pick of the draft, but apparently 1st isn’t always the best. They said that Griffin was the man to have for the 2009 draft. Now where is the pick of the draft? He’s in Sacramento and catching everyone’s eyes. God am I so glad they gave us 4th pick. I love Tyreke and what he’s done. Have fun enjoying your ROTY award Tyreke.

by MexicanSKFan2Death on Feb 5, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

IF you're going to defend your throne.....

….shouldn’t you know how to spell throne?

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 5, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

I meant throne. Damn pookey on me fast.

Sure we could’ve got the 1st pick of the draft, but apparently 1st isn’t always the best. They said that Griffin was the man to have for the 2009 draft. Now where is the pick of the draft? He’s in Sacramento and catching everyone’s eyes. God am I so glad they gave us 4th pick. I love Tyreke and what he’s done. Have fun enjoying your ROTY award Tyreke.

by MexicanSKFan2Death on Feb 5, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

i like how the all caps part has “SINCE WE HAVEN’T BEEN DOING IT MUCH” in it

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I would put that in all caps too. Very upsetting.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 5, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Should have read "I expect Brockman & Thomas to come off bench for Spence"

I don’t like Brockma or Thomas covering Frye outside. So, if Donte has to play major minutes on Amare, the only one left was May on Frye. Real difficult to guess what PW is thinking.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Feb 5, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

i am horrible at being able to scout stuff so i couldn’t say if they are good or bad but i think it’s fair to say that he has a reputation for doing the unexpected

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not sure if that is a good thing, however. I for one, would like to see something a little more routine.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 5, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

The Kings might win the free throw battle

without JT.

And I actually like the match-up of bigs. Particularly I think that among Greene, Brockman and Thomas, Amar’e could get really frustrated.

Lower their expectations and rise to met them

by left hand on Feb 5, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think JT is a very good matchup against Phx. Donte would be a player I'd much rather see start on Amare than any other Kings on the roster.

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 5, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

But I still think the best case throughout the game is to mix in some physical stuff and a little KT. I feel good about these guys keeping AS out of rhythm.

Lower their expectations and rise to met them

by left hand on Feb 5, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a good point. Maybe without his 4 fouls by the 3rd quarter we won't be behind so much.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 5, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Good call on all points

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Feb 5, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I bow as always

(somehow we pull this one out though)

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 5, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

keys to win

to beat the suns we have to….
1) get back on defense, dont celebrate and get burned
2) get out on fastbreaks, the idea of tyreke going at nash (or any suns player not named amare) sounds good to me
3) do not let an average player on the suns look like a HOFer (ex. DeJuan Blair), dudley, amundson, and frye cannot have big games
4) force nash into foul trouble….i would get an evans, casspi, greene, noc lineup out there so that nash can be posted up no matter who hes guarding
5) BE AGGRESSIVE!

by Surprise Team on Feb 5, 2010 3:07 PM PST reply actions  

Lets Go Kings Baby!

I gotta a feeling about tonight. I think it’s going to be a W

"Rebuild The Kingdom, and they will come"

by slamson on Feb 5, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Keys to Win

1) Outscore the opposing team.

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

The best way Wally.

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 5, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Stop Overanalyzing

"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken

by thelettere on Feb 5, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

i guess that explains why i put on 20 pounds this year

i actually met John Madden about 15 years ago in a bakery in Carmel. It was like 7am he looked like he just crawled out of bed and was half dead but he signed me an autograph and let me tell him how much I loved his video game (madden 93) and how half back toss left is my favorite play. It was funny because he actually sounded excited about the video game stuff.

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

brilliant!

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 5, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Preview

But I highly doubt the Suns are going very far in the playoffs – if they even make the playoffs.

Not that the Suns suck – but the competition is simply better.

"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken

by thelettere on Feb 5, 2010 3:17 PM PST reply actions  

On 2nd thought, they'll make the playoffs

but that’s about it – barring a giant leap in development for R. Lopez.

"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken

by thelettere on Feb 5, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

If they can win the 4th position

They’re not going to overtake the LA, but Utah probably isn’t going to beat out Denver either. That puts Utah and PHO in a battle for the #4/#5 position. Currently Utah is 3 games ahead in teh loss column. If Pho can finish in the 4 spot, they have a good chance to win the series because of the home court. That puts them in the into the 2nd round. And, I consider that far.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Feb 5, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

That's a huge leap of faith

putting them at the #4/5 spot. They are 1 game in front of being #9 – and the only reason they are even in the race is because of their hot start.

The real question is: which is the “real” Suns – the one from the start of the season, or the one we’ve seen for much of the last 2 months?

I’d put my money on somewhere in the middle – which puts them between the 6-8 seeds and towards a quick exit from the playoffs.

"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken

by thelettere on Feb 5, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Though obviously anything could happen with the 4-11 seeds

depending on what goes down before the trade deadline.

Bottom line: It’s going to be a brutal. And fascinating.

"I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense."
-H.L. Mencken

by thelettere on Feb 5, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they're the last month

The early season didn’t make sense.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 5, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

If I'm not mistaken, the Suns have had the 3rd toughest schedule this season so far

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Feb 5, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Glass half empty view, they are also 1 game out of 3rd place.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Feb 5, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Jazz are playing awesome lately. Suns are not. Look for Utah to take the 4 spot, and maybe beat Denver for the 3rd

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 5, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

Free Omri...trade.Noc.

by ForThree on Feb 5, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

But what does Phoenix have to lose by missing out on the playoffs?

The draft pick they’ve already traded away to OKC?

UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash

by pookeyguru on Feb 5, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Kings by 6

You heard it here folks.

"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans

by otis29 on Feb 5, 2010 3:26 PM PST reply actions  

I also feel better about this game than any in a while

which probably means we’re going to get pounded by 34.

Free Omri...trade.Noc.

by ForThree on Feb 5, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably irrelevant and inapplicable comment but oh well

I remember reading about a Vietnam POW (might have been Dieter Dangler but for all i know it was John McCain) who was asked about the value of hope in horrible situations such as being a frickin POW. The response was surprising because they said that the people with hope were always the first to die. What they meant was that often their hope was based on irrational thoughts and they would latch out it and keep saying day after day “we’re going to be saved soon …. I heard American planes flying over …. the war should be over soon and we can go home.” Over time they couldn’t handle the realties of the situation. The people who did best were the ones who were more practical, knew they were in hell and dealt with the day to day. He was not saying it was best to be a pessimest but it was best to try and understand your situation before you start clinging on to things that were not based on reality.

Obviously rooting for a sports team is not nearly the same as surviving a frickin war camp. For some reason the above comment made me remember the POW thing and i just started typing for whatever reason.

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I hope that the Kings will win tonight...
…the people with hope were always the first to die. What they meant was that often their hope was based on irrational thoughts…

This could be a lesson in futility.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 5, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

actually if this whole story was from John McCain, that could have made for a very funny political ad against Obama

Hope … It Will Get You Killed.

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

McCain wishes he had said that.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Feb 5, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Cheney did actually say that

not in so many words, but the implication was there.

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 5, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully Thomas is active tonight

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Armstrong inactive and Thomas active.

When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail

by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 5, 2010 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

VFettke's Unathletic Big White Dude Who We'll Make Look Like An All Star

This is a tough one but I’m gonna go with Louis Amundson

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Feb 5, 2010 4:10 PM PST reply actions  

Add to the fact that he's a former King

and I think he goes off for 18/12/2/3

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Feb 5, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

... I just looked it up...

I don’t think he was…

"Thou must give props" - Ice_9ine

by tomroadrunner on Feb 5, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

summer and pre-season only a few years ago

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 5, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s kind of sad that I was upset that we let Amundson go.

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Reggie didn't like him

but he’s only a bench guy

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 5, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, ok. That makes sense.

Mea culpa

"Thou must give props" - Ice_9ine

by tomroadrunner on Feb 5, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if Sean May can be the Frye guy

Shooting 3’s all over the place and whatnot.

Follow on Twitter - @MAD_Marvin

by Hit4TheCycle on Feb 5, 2010 4:43 PM PST reply actions  

For May, McDonald's isn't a pit stop

it’s the checkered flag.

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 5, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll be listening to this one on the radio

heading to Reno. I think we have a shot, mostly just because we’re due for a win and we’ve played them pretty tight. Nash, mostly by himself beat us in two of those. Is he due for an off game? I hope so. I know he flew to Vancouver to run the torch yesterday so hopefully he’s tired.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Feb 5, 2010 4:52 PM PST reply actions  

Hope - don't leave home or listen to a Kings game without it.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 5, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully this is the game...

THe Kmart and Tyreke Backcourt takes off. Or just the game that makes it even easier for Mr. Petrie to trade him. DONT TRADE KMART PETITION! EVERYONE SIGN! lol

KMART FOR PRESIDENT!

by SacramentoSingh on Feb 5, 2010 5:17 PM PST reply actions  

i'm all for team support but ...

are you on meth?

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Feb 5, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't you have a shootaround to get to, Kevin?

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 5, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh srry..

I forgot my Kool-Aid powder in the locker room and Spencer left his laptop open to Sactown Royalty…Had to post a comment. Ohh Udoka wants a backrub! Gotta go….

KMART FOR PRESIDENT!

by SacramentoSingh on Feb 5, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

We’re already back to being the “lowely” Kings? That hurts. That being said I feel good about this game for some reason.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Feb 5, 2010 6:00 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I feel good about evey game, and hopefully so do the Kings players

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Feb 5, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

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