As stated previously in this cyberspace, [Kevin] Martin tops the Mavs' list in their search for a dependable second scorer to flank Dirk Nowitzki. Sources say, however, that Dallas would likely have to recruit a third team to present the quality big man presumably needed to prompt the Kings to alter their thinking.
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all i have to say is, IN PETRIE I TRUST!
by SKingsFan on Feb 6, 2010 10:49 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Ditto
I am with you, in Petrie I trust.
I never thought that I would say this, but I would be open to trade Kevin Martin. I have confidence in Petrie that he would do the right thing, if he used Kevin Martin in some kind of trade. He knows Martin’s worth better than anyone.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
It's up to Petrie
I trust the Kings management that before the trade deadline they make the necessary adjustment in the King’s roster cause honestly the team is beginning to a downward spiral and this losses will either make this team strong or the other way around. Tyreke is the future and since that K-Mart (sad to say this) is inserted in the lineup this team just got 1 win and that was against Golden State. I hate to say we loose esp. with a blowout and in our own backyard it really sucks but i hope the Young Kings will realize that winning is putting your A-game night in and night out. go Kings
beat what you can't beat.
love what others hate and stand up when you fall.
All I want for Martin is a lottery pick
if Dallas can get us that and a decent big man, then I’m game.
I would actually like to root for someone in the playoffs. Might as well be Kev.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
what's the infatuation with a lottery pick?
I assume that any team willing to give up a lottery pick would insist it be #1 protected.. so the one of the youngest teams in the league gets two more 20 year olds? how long do you want to wait to get better? 4 years? 5 years? Not saying we shouldn’t look at Martin trades, but the asset needs to be a proven commodity, not a shot at a player who might be great or might be a bust.
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Feb 6, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I figure we are a year behind the Thunder.
And they are gonna 2 picks.
I think Minny has 3.
I just am the kind of person who would rather stick to the plan, which is to gather and develop young talent rather than swing for the fences at bad pitches.
For the record, there are not any good pitches being thrown. None. There are no available big men who are gonna save this team. Bosh is not coming here. Okafor is decent but overpaid. Beidrins isn’t going anywhere. Dalembert can’t catch the damn ball. Camby will either expire or go to a contender. Bynum, Perkins, Bogut, and Oden are locked up.
There is nothing out there that beats Petrie finding talent in the draft. So why not let him do it twice.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
Dallas may not have a lottery pick
If NJ wants Martin for something and an unprotected pick, I might listen. Everything else is magic beans. Petrie is as good as it gets, but I wouldn’t consider even for a second trading Martin for a mid-round pick.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Feb 6, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That would be awesome.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
I guess my point is this:
Petrie is a draft genius. That’s how we got Martin in the first place. I don’t see the value of trading an established highly-skilled player, still in the growth stage of his career, and trade him in hopes of finding something better. A bird in the hand, right?
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Feb 6, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Except
that the bird in the hand is a soft (mentally and physically) one-dimensional talent that would at best be a third or fourth option on a borderline playoff team, when he was able to in fact suit up.
He may be a better contributor on a team that has the players to mask his weaknesses. But that doesn’t describe the rebuilding Kings, so it may be time to move him.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 6, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
On which borderline playoff team would Kevin be a 4th option?
Chicago? Milwaukee? Houston? Portland?
I know there are extremes of love and hate for Martin, but I find placing his value that low a bit disingenuous.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Let's go through the West
1. Lakers: Kevin would actually have trouble getting significant playing time for the Lakers. He’d probably be taking Shannon Brown’s minutes and would be the sixth option.
2. Nuggets: Actually a pretty good fit. He could replace Afflalo in the starting 2 spot and be the third or fourth option behind Melo, Billups and JR Smith.
3. Utah: Again, playing time is a problem here, unless they want to replace Brewer with Kevin. If so, could be as high as the third option behind Boozer and Williams. He’d better up the D, though, or he’ll be doing a lot of watching.
4. Dallas: He’d be battling Josh Howard to be the third option behind Dirk and Jason Terry. They’re weak at the 2 guard, though, so he’d get a solid crack at PT.
5. Phoenix: Behind Nash and Stoudemire for sure, and by the way, whose minutes is he taking? Richardson? Grant Hill?
6. San Antonio: Fourth fiddle at best behind the big three and probably battling Jefferson for that. Definitely riding the bench in crunch time beind Ginobili.
7. Portland: Again, when Roy is healthy, how does he get into the lineup? At point guard? In any case, third at best behind Roy and Aldridge.
8. Oklahoma City: I think they’re satisfied with Thabo as a defensive 2 guard, so again he has to get on the floor. Could be a third option behind Durant and Green.
9. Houston: Balanced team without any real stars, and Ariza can move to small forward, allowing him to co-star with Brooks, Landry, Ariza and Scola. Naturally that is assuming they want to leave Battier’s defense on the bench. Might be a good sixth man fit.
10. New Orleans: When Paul is healthy, would battle Peja for third fiddle behind Paul and West.
11. Memphis: Playing time also a problem here with OJ Mayo already there. Randolph and Gay and even Gasol are also averaging more than 15 a game.
I know it sounds like an insult to say Kevin would be a third or fourth fiiddle, but in reality that’s about how it falls. And in some cases he would have trouble getting PT because the team’s already have established 2 guards. In any case, it’s doubtful he’s playing 35-40 minutes a game for most of these teams, so his stats are probably going to drop a bit.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 6, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
Didn't Marc Stein start this by saying that Dallas was looking for a 2nd option behind Dirk?
Doesn’t that mean that Jason Terry is still on the Mavs?
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
And quickly through the East
1. Cleveland: Could be a third option behind LeBron and Mo Williams.
2. Boston: no spot for him unless they deal Allen. If that happened he could battle Rondo for third fiddle behind Pierce and Garnett.
3. Orlando: Maybe third fiddle behind Howard and Lewis, but he’d have to find some playing time with Vince and Pietrus playing guard-forward a lot. He could definitely take Redick’s minutes.
4. Atlanta: No spot for him with Joe Johnson and Crawford off the bench.
5. Toronto: They may opt to stick with youth and DeRozan; if not, could be third fiddle behind Bosh and Bargnani.
6. Chicago: Could be third fiddle ahead of his old bud John Salmons behind Rose and Deng.
7. Charlotte: I don’t think he can beat out Stephen Jackson. For some, that might be the ultimate insult.
8. Miami: DWade. Next.
9. Milwaukee: actually a spot that makes some sense with Redd nearing the end. Could share top billing with Jennings, Bogut.
The rest: five other teams are bunched about five games back of Milwaukee. I’m sure Kevin could help some of those teams.
8. Miami
9. Miwaukee
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 6, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
You can't possibly believe all of this
I get that you are going for sensationalism to prove a point, but your point might be better served if you toned down the over the top crazy just a bit.
You’re correct that teams that already have a star shooting guard don’t need him, but according to your list, the following players are better scorers than Kevin Martin: JR Smith, Jason Terry, Jeff Green, Jamal Crawford, Bargnani, and a few others that aren’t quite as average. On top of that, Josh Howard, Richard Jefferson, and Peja (!!) are roughly his equal? Statistics obviously don’t back up these claims, and I can’t imagine any metric that would place Peja on par with K-Mart (better dresser?), so what exactly are you basing this on?
My opinion is that Kevin Martin would be an excellent second scoring option on a good defensive team (like Boston if they dumped Ray Allen)). There is a way to disagree with that without comparing Kevin to Peja.
You have to remember
that Martin has achieved his stats as the first option on a crappy team. People are making excuses for his poor play since he returned by saying it’s a completely new offense. I’m assuming there would be a learning curve on any new team he joined as well.
I think most people can realize if Kevin goes to another team with a deeper lineup his stats aren’t going to be as gaudy as they are here.
Jason Terry and Jamal Crawford are better, more consistent scorers than Kevin, and they’ve learned to do it coming off the bench. Atlanta wouldn’t break up that unit to bring in Kmart, and Terry would still log the same number of minutes more or less if Kmart went there.
There’s no doubt Kevin has the talent to rise further on those lists than I placed him, but he could also disappoint. Time will tell.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 7, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
If your argument is that Kevin's numbers are better due to his featured role and extra minutes
then why is his efficiency so much superior to those players? Common sense would lead you to believe that being the focus of the other team’s defense every night would decrease a player’s efficiency because he would have to work harder to score. Common sense would also dictate that a starter, playing starter’s minutes against opposing starters, would also be scoring against tougher competition, and he would be more fatigued than a bench player – both of which should lead to a drop in efficiency. There’s really no explanation for the fact that Kevin has been a more efficient scorer for the past few years other than the fact that he’s a better scorer. I’d like to hear a different explanation rooted in something other than the fact that you don’t like Kevin Martin if you have one.
Your mind is made up
No explanation will change that. Time will tell.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 7, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
My mind is made up for the time being
But I understand where my opinion came from, and if somebody presented some reasonable data to the contrary, I might revise my opinion. I’m trying to understand how anyone else could consider Crawford or Terry to be superior scorers than Kevin Martin, and right now, the only explanation I can think of is personal bias.
The difference is
while Kmart has slightly better per 36 minutes numbers for his career than those two, they can get their shot any time they want. And they are established with their teams, meaning you more or less know what you have and can count on every night.
As Jefferson’s transfer to the Spurs shows, what you’ve done in the past doesn’t always translate to success in the future when things change, particularly if you are looking for excuses for failure.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 7, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Funny
they can get their shot any time they want
I would say that one of Kevin’s biggest strengths is that he can get his shots whenever he wants without needing a play to be ran for him. In fact, that’s one of the things Martin, Terry, and Crawford have in common – Martin has just been a little better at it over the past few years.
Regardless, I’ll let it go now. Geoff Petrie, Mark Cuban, Danny Ainge, and the several other GM’s that have reportedly inquired about Kevin Martin value him, so I guess that’s all that matters.
by Charlieb on Feb 7, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
As a poster you make a good Stand up comedian
"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges."
Nuggets are wrong, Dallas is wrong, Phoenix is wrong, San Antonio is wrong, Portland is wrong, Toronto is wrong, Charlotte is wrong.
GJ proving nothing.
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Feb 7, 2010 12:27 AM PST up reply actions
Like, when you don't even recognize Westbrook as OKC's second option
I can disregard most of your talent-status commentary.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
I guess when you do a quick analysis of more than 20 teams
A few guys slip though the cracks.
Westbrook is averaging 16, Green 14.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 7, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Rediculous list
No point in even having this discussion anymore. If you place KM’s value as a player that would have to fight Peja for minutes.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
I didn't say he would be fighting Peja for minutes
He’d be fighting him for shots.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 7, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah!
Not like any of those teams might have to give up one or two of the players you named for each team to GET Martin…
/sarcasm
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 7, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
That's certainly another factor
Like with Boston and Ray Allen. In other cases, probably not.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 7, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Do you think Dallas wants him so much as a 4th option?
Really? Coolcat, I like a lot of what you say, but these kids of comments border on the absurd.
"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"
Sammyp831.
Didn't I read this from Marc Stein in the original piece that started this degenerating nonsense?
As stated previously in this cyberspace, [Kevin] Martin tops the Mavs’ list in their search for a dependable second scorer to flank Dirk Nowitzki. Sources say, however, that Dallas would likely have to recruit a third team to present the quality big man presumably needed to prompt the Kings to alter their thinking.
I’m not saying the Mavs are perfect. They did want Jason Kidd because they felt he would help improve the offense by bringing more passing into the offense.
Having said, that the Mavs believe that Martin is a 2nd option to Dirk Nowitzki (he’s pretty good, right?). And, last I checked, Dallas is either a championship contender or solid playoff team depending on who you ask.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
I think Martin makes them much more of a contender
Quite frankly, the Mavs are one of my favorite teams to watch this year. They’re a damn good team and I feel they may be the dark horse in the West. They’re one of the few teams I’d like to trade Kevin to based on the fact that I’d love to see him win a ring.
www.mancancook.net
I've always thought it would be great to see him on the Cavs
He would be a nice compliment to Lebron and if they got him (or even Jamison or Murphy, who they actually are going after) I think they would be heavily favored to win it all. But they dont really have anything I want besides Hickson, which obviously isn’t enough.
"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, and the three most powerful men in America are named 'Bush', 'Dick', and 'Colon.' Need I say more?"
-Chris Rock
He might be a third option on Dallas
behind Dirk and Jason Terry.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 6, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, man. I've read it all now.
I’m done with this site until after the trade deadline.
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
What if a trade happens?
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
Really CC?
You’re better than that. Martin might be the 4th option on a playoff team? That’s beyond extreme. I’ll be the first to say Martin’s demeanor males him more of a Robin than Batman, but he’s not a run of the mill player either.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
What option would he be
coming off the bench for Oklahoma City?
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 6, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
Weak argument
Only coming off the bench because their SG (and best player) happens to be Durant. The same logic would make Pao or Amare bench players for the Magic. Hell Deron would come off the bench in New Orleans and Carmello would be riding the pine behind LeBron
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Feb 6, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Read above
for my take on how he would fit in with the other teams in the West.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 6, 2010 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
You did say "borderline"
Boston isn’t a borderline team. Neither is San Antonio, or most of the ones you mentioned. The ones I cited are not sure things, but could all make the playoffs.
You write well, and you make a lot of good points in here, but if you’re unwilling to defend your assertion that Kevin Martin would be the 4th option on a bubble team, just let it be. No one shoots 100% in here.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Mmmmm
I just am the kind of person who would rather stick to the plan, which is to gather and develop young talent rather than swing for the fences at bad pitches.
Those aren’t the only two options you know – not every trade deal is automatically a “bad pitch”. There are teams that are in some financial difficulty that Petrie might be able to work on (well, if he has the go-ahead to add some salary), so these aren’t automatically “bad pitches”.
And I’d say that any pick after #5 in a draft is sketchy anyways. We know Petrie can do good things with draft picks, but what are we – the second youngest roster in the league right now, and we’re looking at a top-6 or 7 pick in the next draft?
At some point, getting younger has to take a backseat to getting better.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
by otis29 on Feb 6, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That's nicely summarized
At some point, getting younger has to take a backseat to getting better.
We have some excellent young pieces, what we need is a B/B+ or better veteran talent. We’re young enough.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Otis, you make some very good points.
As you point out, although “The Plan” is to gather and develop young talent, that is not the only option available to Petrie. It does not prohibit him from taking advantage of any deal, which would benefit the team.
Petrie did well for himself, getting some great talent at the draft. There has also been time to evaluate his new players to see what new pieces he needs to make the team better. They have certainly played in a number of different lineups to see how players deal with one.
As you point out, there teams which find themselves in some financial difficulty. It would make sense to take advantage of these situations if they serve the team.
I think we are now at the point where “getting younger needs to take a backseat to getting better.”
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
You know someone smarter than I
and who has a don’t trade Martin stance should come up with a list of acceptable big men for such a trade.
I hear Dalembert Okafor …..and I am not sure either is worth it.
Amare and Bosh are not feasible without longer term contracts
Salary cap room seems to be a roll of the dice to get someone better than Martin
Who is the mythical equivalent in value for Martin
I’m going to take a nap now, I’m old, and have to be up by 9 am tomorrow
by ElRonToro on Feb 6, 2010 11:01 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Oakfor and Bosh.
No one else plays defense or rebounds well enough.
So If we scan down
Okafor a no for too much $ Bosh a no for no contract
I think we are still at 0 bigs available
If thats true I think we are then looking for a 2 who is a better fit with Reke than Martin. Iggy is not a compliment to Reke.
Snagging a couple of Minny’s draft picks in a 3 way with Dallas…ideas?
That's a toughie.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
exception to the assinine trade post rule?
since the post is about finding trade suitors for dallas, here goes: Dallas gets KMart, Noc and Posey. N.O. gets Dampier (e.c.) and JT. Kings get Okafor, Roddy B, and Josh Howard (e.c.). Even if you don’t keep Josh (which I would consider on a reasonably priced deal)… you get out of Noce’s deal and still have k-9’s expiring. Rebounding problem solved, rim defense solved, and Roddy might be something special. I think Dallas becomes very deep and very dangerous and NO gets a ton of salary relief and a young center to run with cp3.
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Feb 6, 2010 11:18 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Agreed. Not for that money.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
Okafor's salary isn't an issue with this deal
since you are dumping Nocioni’s salary at the same time. But I’m not sure if I like the talent part of the deal. I like Okafor, but I think I’d value Martin and JT a little more. I don’t really like a trade that makes the Kings any older without offering a substantial upgrade.
You seem to be disregarding Roddy Buckets
This guy is a baller. Plain and simple. He has Tony Parker with a vertical written all over him. Even if we don’t see him fitting with Tyreke all too well, he’ll be a huge trade chip for other teams. There’s no doubt he can (and likely will) be a starting point guard for a playoff team.
Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!
I am fond of this
People keep talking about Okafor’s salary. I admit it’s expensive, but not necessarily “overpriced.” I mean, look how hard we’re digging to find a team willing to part with a decent big to trade for an all-star potential two-guard?
Guys like Dalembert and Okafor are VALUABLE. Valued for more than their stat line.
Waiting to draft a big is the riskiest of all. Other than a painfully obvious Dwight or Shaq type, you run the risk of ending up with Kwame/Darko/Oden/Hasheem…
Why won't that stupid StR let me into their crappy club for jerks?
Carlos Boozer for Kevin Martin. Maybe Boozer even agrees to a contract extension first.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Oh god.
Never under any circumstance. Oh my fucking god hell to the fucking if there is ever a god fuck no.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
by pookeyguru on Feb 6, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he's still on the fence
"Thou must give props" - Ice_9ine
by tomroadrunner on Feb 6, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm kind of iffy on this
If the Mavs can get us a high pick, or couple late first rounders, a defensive big man, and will part with Roddy I’d definitely consider it. It’d also be nice if they’d take Nocioni from us. If we’re trading Kevin I’d love to see him go to a contender like the Mavs and have a chance to play with a great team and possibly win a ring. The Mavs are a fun team to watch right now and they’re definitely one of the teams I’d like to see Kevin go to. However, what he does and the money he’s paid to do it make him really really valuable, and I want a lot for him.
www.mancancook.net
Just to check
Are you saying that you put Martin’s value at:
- high-lottery pick/couple of late 1’s,
- a promising rookie (i.e. Rodrigue Beaubois),
- defensive big, AND
- dumping a bad contract (i.e. Nocioni)
That’s basically 2-3 picks, a big, & a salary dump.
If so, I think that’s a lot to ask (and hope beyond hope that you’re right).
As a reference, Ron Artest was basically worth 2.5 of those bullet points (late 1st, promising rookie, & a positional need at the time PG), but GP failed to hitch K9 to an Artest deal or get an upgraded/additional 1st . . . so considering Artest’s “reputation”, maybe you’re not as crazy as I first thought but you still likely setting yourself up to be disappointed.
trying to ask the Mavs to trade Beaubois
is like trying to tell Lindsay Lohan to stop doing blow. It’s not happening.
(as a footnote, the parent trap is on tv right now and it’s very bizarre to watch little child lohan act)
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 6, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
Weird, "Mean Girls" is on now...
A Lohan marathon? As Marc Jackson would say, “Come on TBS, you’re better than that.”
Why won't that stupid StR let me into their crappy club for jerks?
I have this weird thing
where if there’s more than one song by the same artist being played on two or more radio stations at the same time (which happens more than you might think), I assume it’s because that artist just died, and I can’t shake that belief until the DJ comes on one of the stations and dives right in to their usual pointless blather. It’s a roller-coaster of emotions, as you can imagine.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 6, 2010 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
You must think Lady Gaga dies like twenty times a day.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
She has an exemption
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 7, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
You mustthinkhope Lady Gaga dies like twenty times a day.
"Thou must give props" - Ice_9ine
by tomroadrunner on Feb 8, 2010 8:35 AM PST up reply actions
4 way just maybe asinine enough
kings get Dalambert and Tim Thomas
76ers get Amare and Barbosa
Mavs get Martin and HA
Suns get AI and Howard
what do we all think of this?
Judgment day is coming!
I like it with Philly's pick.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
How about
Kings trade Martin and Spencer for Al Jefferson. Minny gets a great scorer in his prime and a big man with potential while the Kings get the low post threat they need.
smell the ashes
by iamstern'skippah! on Feb 6, 2010 1:20 PM PST reply actions
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
I like Jefferson's game.
I know he is considered a black hole, but he’s got damn near the best footwork I’ve ever seen, he’s completely ambidextrous, and frankly, if he gets the ball within 6 feet of the rim, 80% of the time, he can create himself a good shot. That kind of inside threat makes everyone look a hell of a lot better from 15 feet and out.
That being said, I don’t think Dallas has any big I’d really want aside from Nowitzki (duh), and I think we should focus on Tyrus Thomas, who we can get, and keep Martin.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
It's not his ability to score or how he does it.
It’s simply everything else that he doesn’t do. Jefferson would be great if the Celtics still had him.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
I hear you saying no to other people's suggestions, Pookey.
What would you suggest?
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
by Slam_Dunk on Feb 6, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Patience. So much fucking Patience you blow your head off because you can't take stagnation.
Patience that makes you run into brick walls for relief. Patience that makes you throw heavy objects at your TV screen every time you watch the Kings play. Patience that feels like Mick Jagger is getting under your skin.
So much patience that everyone else in the world feels like they’re going 115 MPH while you’re going 15 MPH.
Patience.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
by pookeyguru on Feb 6, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 13 recs
Does Green include saving energy by not flushing the toilet 10 times a day?
Or living in a house smaller than a shoebox?
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
if it's yellow let it mellow
and if it’s brown, flush it down.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 6, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well put.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
wait
pokkey’s Mom is Greene….as in Donte? That explains alot….
"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes
pookey's....too much whiskey
"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes
Pookey's mom...
…you won’t like her when she’s angry…
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 7, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
That is a lot of patience you are expecting
Not sure how many people can muster up that much patience. Arco will be emptied out, with season ticket holders a thing of the past.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Good thing you're not Geoff Petrie.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
Evan Geoff has to deal with the Maloofs.
Not so sure they have that kind of patience either.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I did watch the Kings last season.
That was horrible. Very difficult time to be a Kings’ fan. The team virtually imploded. That is why I wouldn’t want this new team to have to go through something like this ever again. It becomes self-destructive for the team.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
But that's why patience is needed
by everyone, including the Maloofs. This team has to be built well so that it can be good for a long time. Doing that takes a little while
www.mancancook.net
If V can understand the point...
…why can’t others?
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
Because of human nature.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I was taking one of the many opportunities to make fun of V's intelligence.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
Actually, that did not escape me.
I have noticed your responses to V.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Despite the lack of what seems respect
I actually have a great deal of respect for V. I just don’t have to kiss his ass or tell him how wonderful he is.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
I have sensed that you have respect for V, as well.
If you didn’t that would really come across!
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
You are a perceptive one.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
Sometimes - not as often as I would like
I miss a lot of the sarcasm on here. It is not always that easy to tell if someone is being sarcastic or serious.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Welcome to the ultra conundrum of StR.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
that entire conversation was like watching Dr. Bowman argue with the HAL 9000
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 6, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
Science Theater 3000 reference?
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
2001: A Space Odyssey
I just had a visual of Slam_Dunk talking in a creepy monotone computer voice
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 6, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
I did not enjoy 2001 at all.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
Loved that movie.
Especially when HAL’s memory is being removed.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Bye.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'll try to remember that
One caveat: I know that when I have been sarcastic, there are those who take me seriously. So, it goes both ways.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
If you want to piss of V
Just say “Kevin Durant. PASPN”
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
V is something of a fantasy laden bitch.
That doesn’t surprise me.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
You'll find this funny too
In our PASPN league, I had already gotten a couple of ridiculous deals that had turned the lowly Timberwolves into contenders.
Then the Oklahoma City GM offers me Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, and Nick Collison for Al Jefferson and Michael Beasley. I clicked yes faster than Eric Maynor.
V was PISSED.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Who is the OKC GM?
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
Aykis, nothing is faster than Eric Maynor
you should know that by now
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.-1984 George Orwell.
Obviously not someone smart.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Thanks Captain Obvious.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
I am!
…in the second league. :( The first one was full. Works for me; I’m 13-1 and have scored 5611 points.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 7, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
They'll come back once we're good again
It’s all about finding a balance. If you’re bad, then you’re salary situation is probably low (unless you’re the Knicks) and once you spend a little (when the right time comes!) then you’ll be good again and people will come back.
Of course, it’s easier said than done. Easier for true fans, that’s for sure.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
One still has to deal with the Maloofs.
If the seats are empty in Arco, they are not as flushed with cash to spend on the team. Keep people coming, makes it easier to spend more money on salaries. As you say, it is a balancing act. You want to keep the Maloofs happy.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
It's also not like Arco was sold out against the crappier teams the Kings were playing against when at Arco.
There is that to consider as well.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
That is so true.
But you also had the Maloofs doing all sorts of creative things to bring in business. They hold the purse strings.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Well if the Maloofs really wanted to bring in more business they would lower ticket prices substantially.
That’s what ultimately gets people in the seats.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
I can't answer for the Maloofs.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Who says you could?
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
You didn't - that was just my response.
They could lower their prices and have Arco rocking at every game. I am only surmising that they don’t because then they may have difficulty raising their prices when the team becomes a bigger draw.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Sure didn't stop them last decade.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
Rec'd
the Bene Gesserit rite.
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
Frank Herbert, Dune
by SeattleRoyalty on Feb 6, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
We are fifty games into a season where we had major turnover in players and coaches, and two of our best players have been out, three are rookies, one is in his second year, our starting center in his third, and we have three expiring contracts that give us flexibility next year. People need to chill the eff out.
by MichaelMack on Feb 6, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the emotional concerns of people are founded...
True, there is no need for panic, but there is need for concern. I think what a lot of people want to see right now, is something positive to turn things around for the remainder of the season. We have seen some success with all of the factors that you outlined. But, now we are seeing a downward trend that is disturbing. Anything that can turn this downward trend into an upward trend would be reassuring. It might be a simple as getting a new big for defense.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Hold on.
Who said none of us weren’t concerned? Nobody here likes to lose. I’m not angry the Kings lost last night, perse, but I also haven’t seen the game. (I’m not going to bother now.)
Here’s the thing though: Why this team was successful in the early part of the season is not even a high guarantee that removing Kevin Martin out of the equation is going to create that level of success again.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
I didn't say you weren't concerned. I was validating people's concerns.
I wasn’t angry that the Kings lost last night, and I watched every minute of it. What I felt after last night’s game was some concern for the remainder of this season. I could also hear the concern expressed by a number of fans after last night’s game. It was a bit disturbing to watch, especially since it was in Arco, the game really wasn’t as close as the final score would indicate, and some of the fans started booing.
I agree with you that the reasons that the team was successful in the early part of the season is unrelated to Kevin Martin. Kevin hasn’t really been a factor as to the success or lack of success to the team this season.
So, I think we are in agreement here. I am not seeing any points of disagreement.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Growing pains, mayne. Growing pains is all I got with this.
This is a young team still figuring itself out and they’ve been struggling since teams have taken them more seriously. They no longer surprise teams anymore. That won’t happen ever again. This young group will have to learn how to fix their weakness’ (or add players with less weakness if that can’t be done from the FO perspective). I don’t think players losing more or less hurts them for being able to win in the NBA. Winning in the NBA is first & foremost about having great talent. The Kings have some quality pieces across the board. What’s missing is that interior defender/rebounder/shot blocker the Kings so badly need. If that defender could also score enough to be a threat inside, BINGO!
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
I agree with you.
Although, I think that more wins would go along way to keeping up the players’ spirits. I just remember how excited they were when they were experiencing more success. But, that is just me. I am a big believer in intermittent reinforcement. If not rewarded for an extended period of time, the behavior begins to taper off. I would just like to see them get more frequent rewards for their efforts. If Petrie could get them a good big for defense, I think that would go a long way to helping them get more wins.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
If it that was simple every team would magically win 41 games every year after they draft a top 5 pick.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
lol - It's the NBA, nothing is that simple.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Of course not.
Patience is required though.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
Hmm...
I’d definitely consider it. Especially if we could get another pick or Rubio’s rights. Our defense is terrible. Jefferson obviously doesn’t help. However, he provides another consistent offensive threat. We’re not getting consistent offense from anyone other than Tyreke. The next most consistent person is probably Omri. I think adding Jefferson adds a lot to our offense. I know people worry about his knee but he has come pretty far since the surgery, and he’s lost a ton of weight too, which will only help him.
www.mancancook.net
I don't know what's wrong with me.
I jget no thrill from Rubio’s potential in the NBA. I just don’t think his game would translate in a manner anything close to seamlessly. The kid is skilled, no question, but I think in an 82-game grind, he falls apart.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
I don't know what's wrong with me.
I jget no thrill from Rubio’s potential in the NBA. I just don’t think his game would translate in a manner anything close to seamlessly. The kid is skilled, no question, but I think in an 82-game grind, he falls apart.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
I'd be down
With some Rubio throw in action. Here I am now, entertain me…
by OrangeLazarus on Feb 6, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
When Marc Stein and Dirk go to bed at night ...
which one do you think is the big spoon? I would argue Dirk because of the height but then again he is a bit of a girl.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 6, 2010 4:18 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Have you not heard?
Stein’s man lover, Dirk, has been replaced by our very own Omri Casspi.
www.mancancook.net
oh correction
is nash the french-canadian maid?
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
Hellz to the No.
Nash is the Victorian Canadian maid.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
Stein is definitely the big spoon
7’ or not, Dirk likes to be pampered, and Stein loves nothing more than to pamper him. How is he supposed to play with those golden locks and whisper the sweet precious dreams of a man in love if he’s in front?
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 6, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
do you think Dirk owns a cat
cuz he looks like the type of guy who would own a cat
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 6, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Why is this so funny?
It just is, cheers.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Feb 6, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
but seriously, if the guy owned a cat (and we all know he does) it would definitely be one of those creepy evil german Holocaust denier cats
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 6, 2010 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 6, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
This made me laugh, but also made me angry
I don’t really like most cats, but I really really hate this cat.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 6, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
yes i think this would qualify as a cate that we all can really really hate.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 6, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
er cat
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 6, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
Don't hate
Then you’re no better than the cat
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by CaliforniaJag on Feb 7, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Believe it or not, I'm going the other way with this
Dirk has no use for cats, even evil genocidal ones. again, back to the pampering. Cats are just too needy for Dirk. When he comes home after a game, he doesn’t want to have to move the damn cat off his favorite chair before he sits down; he wants to plop right down in his recliner, tip back a frosty beer, and let Stein get right to work on those sore feet.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 6, 2010 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
I could see him with a cat.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Believe in GP
I trust in the players he drafts (except Spencer) and trust the trades he makes. Whatever he does I know it’s gonna work out.
I just wish we can get Al Jefferson :/
by Kingsfan_born_in_LA on Feb 6, 2010 7:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Do you remember....
…Hilton and a pick, versus what actually happened, Hilton for a pick?
The rumor above is that a big has to be involved if the Kings want to deal with Dallas, but
what if in reality Petrie is interested in something else or something in addition to that big, like acquiring Nick Calathes?
by getPGwithbounce on Feb 6, 2010 11:41 PM PST reply actions
Nick Calathes?
the Kings need another point guard who can’t defend to come off the bench. Interesting take.
by betweentheeyes on Feb 7, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
It died in the mind of TZ.
UNLESS that underground cavern was a David Thorpe run training facility. The problem of course, is that players really need to play in NBA game situations for them to develop well. So a league of cyborgs needs to be built along with a regulation-sized stadium and tons of fake fans to simulate real NBA games to develop the players. Though at this point the team is spending billions of dollars to develop those players, so you know… maybe it would be smarter to just wait. -- Iashwash
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