This Weeks Asinine Trade thread, Feb. 7th (gather ye children, the storm approacheth)

Kings get Scalabrine, Tony Allen, and JT Giddens expirings
Boston gets Noce, Ime, and May

Boston needs to go all in because it looks like this is their last chance at winning the whole thing. This gives three deserving guys to compete for a ring and clears Noce’s contracts for the Kings.

and the Kings get their big. The Raptors kinda get shit, so they won’t do it. Still fun to do though.

Now THAT’S asinine, bitches!

Suns get Iggy and some expirings to help lower their cap, and the Sixers get Amare. Kings get Dalembert.

Here’s the whole deal.

But we get to get rid of Nocioni and get Perkins!

Martin to Dallas: Gives them what they want in a SF
Howard to LA Clips: Clips need help at the SF
Kaman to Sac: Kings need help at the C

Dollars work but I’m not sure if LA would want to give up Kaman for Howard.

okay first half of trade:
Cavs get Caron Butler, Celtics get Nocioni, Washington gets JT and cap relief, Kings get Anthony Parker and Leon Powe and ECs

second half of trade:
KMart and Kenny to the Pacers, Troy Murphy to the TWolves, Knicks get more salary dumps out than salary dumps in ($16.9M out, $18.1M in EC in plus they dump Jared Jeffries), Kings get KLove and salary dumps and stay below the cap

Final Kings acquistions:
Kevin Love, Anthony Parker, Leon Powe to play – Scalabrine, Curry, Mark Blount as ECs
Final Kings trade outs:
Kevin Martin, Jason Thompson, Andres Nocioni, Kenny Thomas, Hitlon Armstrong.

The Kings get even younger but get better defensively (Powe and Parker) and offensively (Love, Parker) and bigger, they get a less talented, they save a boatload of money

Happy Super Bowl

This satisfies everybody involved.

Iggy, Dalembert to Phoenix

Amare, K9, Sergio to Philadelphia

Barbosa, Speights to Sacramento

Rumor here: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post//id/12957/suns-take-up-close-look-at-iguodala
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King receive Eric Gordon, Al Jefferson, DeAndre Jordan
Clippers receive Corey Brewer, Donte Greene, Minnesota’s 2010 first round pick
Minnesota receives Kevin Martin, Jason Thompson, Spencer Hawes, King’s 2010 first round pick

Kings receive Kendrick Perkins, Eric Gordon, Blake Griffin, Ricky Davis(expiring)
Clippers receive Ray Allen, Jason Thompson, Spencer Hawes, King’s 2010 1st round pick
Boston receives Marcus Camby, Kevin Martin, Andres Nocioni

But I can’t come up with something that I like enough

KEvin and HA for Kevin Love, Corey Brewer, and Brian Cardinal’s expiring works but not sure if Minny goes for that, or even if the Kings do.

Ziller’s post today artfully articulates how 2011 capspace could be better for this team than any this summer. Although I think he understates how immediate space could allow this team to gain assets through trade by taking on 2011 exp contracts this summer, it’s still a compelling piece. With that in mind, here’s a deal that gets the Kings two players (Dalembert and Kirilenko) to boost the interior D, who both expire in 2011. Link here:

Kings in:
Dalembert
Kirienko
NYK ’10 first

Kings out:
Martin
Nocioni
Thomas
Armstrong

Philly in:
Armstrong
Thomas

Philly out:
Dalembert

Utah in:
Martin
Nesterovic
Banks

Utah out:
Kirilenko
NYK ’10 first

Tor in:
Nocioni

Tor out:
Banks
Nesterovic

Utah does this to acquire Martin—who should slide in well next to Deron, Brewer, Boozer and Okur—for Kirelenko, who was been playing well of late but hasn’t seemed to fit in there in the long term. Philly dumps Dalemebert without losing Iggy along the way. And Toronto adds a key role player for spare parts, in the hopes of convincing Bosh to hang around if they can contend.

For the Kings, you do lose Martin, but make tremendous strides in interior D. This team would be improved this year, primed for a playoff push next year, and would have gobs of space in 2011 to weather the new CBA sh*tstorm and add the final pieces for a push to contention. I’m not even going to list the starting 5, since this is a very versatile group with a number of flexible possible lineups:

C Dalembert
C/PF Hawes
PF/C Thompson
PF Brockman
PF/SF Kirilenko
SF/PF/SG Greene
SF/SG Casspi
SG/SF Garcia
SG/SF Udoka
PG/SG Udrih
PG Evans
PG Rodriguez

Oh yeah, plus you have two lotto picks to work with this summer as well.

…for a 19 year old Tim Duncan. Is time travel a feature of the trade machine?

Sac receives SamD & J.Smith
Bos receives Iggy & Noc
Phi receives JT,K9,Allen & Walker.Bos#1pick,Sac#2pick
We get two bigs,out of Noc`s contract
Bos gets ready for playoffs
Phi gets Exp. contracts ,young SG & bigman & two draft picks between #28 & #38

This is completely assinine! But given the strong play of of Darren Collison at a fraction of the price of CP3, N.O.‘s need for a top SG, & cost cutting(I know they are under the cap but they can still save money). I propose KM, Casspi, & K9 for CP3, Posey, & Songaila. It doesn’t solve our big man problems but IT’S CP3!!!!!
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

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We noted at the end of last week that with the Clippers seemingly out of playoff contention, there was a chance Marcus Camby might get traded.

The thinking goes that teams that have inquired about Camby’s availability previously were quickly rebuffed, but now that Mike Dunleavy is out as coach and it looks like another lost season for the Clips, they could be open to something now.

If that’s the case, CBS Sports’ Ken Berger reports today that both the Knicks and Nuggets “are intrigued by the possibility of bringing him back for an encore.”

But Berger is quick to note Camby will likely only get dealt under two scenarios: if the Clippers get a solid talent in return, or they free up some more cap space to sign a max free agent this offseason.

If that’s the case, a possible scenario would be the Knicks sending over Darko Milicic. Both Camby and Milicic are making in the 7-million range this season, and Milicic has an expiring contract.

Milicic has also asked for a buyout this season, so the Clips could buy him out once they trade for him, which could save them a little money.

But if the Clippers wanted to free up some serious cap space, they’d likely need to involve another player on their team that has at least one year left on his deal, and trade him along with Camby for expiring contracts, since Camby’s deal is up at the end of this season.

The only contracts the Clippers have longer than 1 year are: Baron Davis, Chris Kaman, Blake Griffin, Al Thornton, Eric Gordon, and DeAndre Jordan (if they want him back, which I assume they do). Telfair also has a player option, which means he’s likely back. Thornton and Telfair are probably the only player that they’d consider moving to “free up some serious cap space”, since you’re basically dealing a player and not getting anything useful in return in that scenario. If the Kings were interested in Camby, it’d probably have to be something like this deal. The Kings get Camby, but have to take on Telfair for next year (no way he doesn’t take the player option). The Clippers get expiring contracts and a flier on Sergio. Would you guys be interested in that? I honestly don’t think it’s worth it, but if we were going to get involved with Camby that’s really the only kind of deal I could see working.

Hawes for Tyrus Thomas? I’m not saying I would. Really I’m not sure. I like Hawes’ potential but this is his 3rd year & if he doesn’t show improvement he we might be in the same situation next year as Chicago is with TT this year. Young big with potential but not sure if he will ever reach it or be a Stromile Swift. Actually I wouldn’t do it. I just really want TT but would love to see him play with Hawes & JT. I guess we can just hope GP feels the same way about TT as some of us do & go for him in the offseason. Milsap makes $8 mil per but he is a certified MONSTER! We could probably get TT for 5 years $20 mil? Maybe even less.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yjv4rep

When you’re coming up with a deal, obviously you’re going to think about it from the Kings’ perspective. However, it’s also a lot more helpful if you think about it from the other team’s perspective; what are they looking to add, which players are available, are they willing to take on future salary, etc.? Aykis made a GIANT post, including information from other teams’ blog sites, to find what teams want, don’t want, etc. For example (Rahul, I used one of your trades only because your post is most recent):

According to the Memphis Commercial Appeal, "The Griz will not take a player whose deal extends beyond this season if they indeed consummate a deal.

Memphis won’t be trading for Nocioni anytime soon. Just because it works on the Trade Machine doesn’t make it remotely feasible.

Half the trades on here make NO sense; they’re from the perspective of the Kings only, and don’t take into account what other teams’ preferences are. And yeah, I know it’s called the “Asinine Trade Thread”, but the idea is that fans coming up with trade ideas is asinine in itself, since the front office isn’t going to check StR before making a deal.

This was inspired by another post:

Pacers-Kings trade

Kings trade Kevin Martin, Casspi, K9, and 1st round pick for Granger, Murphy, and 1st round pick.

I think it’d be a sensible trade for us but I highly doubt the Pacers would give up Granger in this scenario. Regardless, I’m down!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yzlavfp

We get Brook Lopez, Devin Harris, CDR, and Bobby Simmons.
Nets give up Martin, Nocioni, Hawes, and Beno

For the Kings, this is a no-brainer. I’d hate to see Martin go, but we could now start Harris at PG, Evans at SG (where he belongs), Garcia (when he’s back) at SF, JT at PF, and Lopez at C. We would have Omri, Donte, Brockman, Rodriguez, and Ime as backups. CDR, Simmons, K9, Armstrong, and May all would come off the books next season, giving us 24.2 million to play with.

Why would the Nets make this deal? Well, they probably wouldn’t, but not for the reason you might think. They don’t want to give up Brook Lopez, but for Martin they might. The biggest problem then becomes financial,since Lopez only make 2 mil to Martin’s 9. Thats where the other players get involved. NJ wants CDR gone, so they’d be more than happy to throw him in for a bag of peanuts. They not so big on Harris anymore, and they especially don’t like the contract they gave him. Swapping him for Beno saves them 2 mil a year, plus Beno’s contract ends a year earlier (saving them another 8 mil). With only 4 wins this season, they desperately need quality players. Beno, Martin, Nocioni, and Hawes would all start for them. This leaves us with the biggest stumbling block: matching salaries. That’s where Simmons 11 mil expiring contract comes in. I think the Nets would be less inclined to surrender that than Brook Lopez..

Alternate trade: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yfpr7rj

Change Simmons to Tony Battie (6 mil expiring contract) and Beno to Sergio. NJ would prefer this, but of course as a Kings fan, I had to post the better trade for us first =)

It occurred to me in 27FTs thread that

Philly – Monta Ellis
GS – Iggy

could really help both teams.

It gives Philly a dynamic shooter and distributor and GS some quick toughness and scoring at the rim. Seems like Curry, Iggy, Maggette, Biedrins is a nice combo.

but I think it bears repeating. I honestly think this is a realistic, win-win-win trade for all 3 teams involved.

Chi-Lakers-Sac

Chicago doesn’t want to hurt their cap room for this summer, so acquiring Noc without getting rid of someone like Hinrich or Salmons is a no-no. Lakers need a point guard. Kings need frontcourt help.

Kings send Noc and Sean May to Chicago, who get two guys that can shoot and spread the floor for Derrick Rose, something they desperately need.

Lakers send Morrison to Chicago and Vujacic to Sacramento (Ya I know). Those two guys weren’t doing anything in LA anyway.

Chicago sends malcontent Tyrus Thomas to Sacramento and trades Hinrich to the Lakers, who desperately need a point guard that can stop penetration.

I think its a good trade for all teams involved. Bulls can afford to take back Noc’s salary because it declines and they get rid of Hinrich’s contract in the process. Kings get a talented player and basically trim Noc’s contract by a year and a few million dollars by getting Vujacic, who will expire next year.

I think thats a Win-Win-Win trade right there. The team that might say no would be the Lakers for taking back money, but they do need an upgrade at the point, Fisher’s retiring next year, Farmar isn’t good enough to start, and Hinrich is solid defensively.

To Sacramento: Troy Murphy, Glen Davis
To Indiana: Ray Allen, Kenny Thomas, Brian Scalabrine
To Boston: Mike Dunleavy Jr., T.J. Ford, Andres Nocioni, Hilton Armstrong

Why the Kings do this: Murphy and Davis’ contracts expire after next season. Murphy is an excellent rebounder and shooter. They get rid of Nocioni’s longer contract. Then again, I hate Big Baby…

Why the Pacers do this: $31 million expiring and Ray Allen as a short-term tutor to Brandon Rush…

Why the Celtics do this: They improve their bench dramatically (Nocioni, Ford and Armstrong > Davis, Scalabrine. Dunleavy is 5 years younger than Allen, can play a couple different positions and his deal expires next year if it doesn’t work out. The only long-term commitment is Nocioni. It also allows them to get rid of a headache in Davis…

after reading the story about the Bulls wanting ECs and a first round pick for TTomas

SAC trades
Kevin Martin to Boston
Andres Nocioni to Boston
Kenny Thomas to Chicago

SAC receives
Ray Allen
Tyrus Thomas

BOS trades
Ray Allen to Sacramento
JR Giddens to Chicago
Brian Scalabrine to Chiacago
2010 first round pick to Chicago

BOS receives
Kevin Martin
Andres Nocioni
Kirk Hinrich

CHI trades
Tyrus Thomas to Sacramento
Kirk Hinrich to Boston

CHI receives
Kenny Thomas
JR Giddens
Brian Scalabrine
Boston’s 2010 first round pick

it seems to work on the trade machine
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Maybe this but find a way GP!

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Say what you want about the crap we are dealing but they would help the Cats a hell of a lot more than the players they are giving up & vice versa for the Kings
1.The Cats need a PF & K9 is possibly a Larry Brown favorite
2. K9 is also a $9 mil expiring for Chandler who they don’t need
3. Beno is a legit back-up to Felton who is ready to contribute to a playoff team & presumedly DJ is not.
4. Beno is insurance incase Felton leaves
5. Brockman is another LB type PF they could use
6. DJ is another young piece for us we wanted in the draft
7. Flip Murray does nothing for them
8. The Cats liked Sean May just didn’t want to pay him. They can get a healthy May back at a fraction of the cost & he is another PF who could help them that they need.
9. Most important we get a stud center(when healthy)

Just a thought at getting us a future center without it impacting us to far in future

I know he’s out with ruptured tendon now, but i really like Pryzbilla and think he could be another great white hope for the Kings, He is only making around 7 million a year, I think he could be really good with Hawes and his contract only goes through next year. My thoughts on this is a 3 way trade between Portland, Kings and 76ers

76ers get K9, HA and Portland’s pick (2nd)
Portland gets Dalemebert
Kings get Pryzbilla and Blake(EC)

Kings and Portland stay under cap, we get a Decent priced center for next year with only giving up some EC’s, Portland gets a great center now to make more of a run(With Oden and Pryz out), 76ers get EC’s and a 2nd rounder

What do you guys think..My original Idea was instead of 76ers doing it with NO and Okafor but I don’t think they are trading him this year

Inspired by Troy Murphy rumor, but…
(1) I don’t want a 30 year old PF
(2) I want Kings to get Iggy
(3) CLE wants Troy Murphy.
(4) PHI wants young talent
(5) IND willing to do contract dump.

This trade throws our roster out of balance, but it is OK. We play out the string this year with major talent upgrade, and then rely on free agency, trades and draft to address our front court:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yhbk7ej

Net trade for Kings: JT, Sergio and K9 for Iggy.