Kevin Martin, Grant Napear, and My Definition of Mental Weakness
In case you've missed the reaction, on his radio show Monday evening Kings TV play-by-play announcer Grant "Peaches" Napear called Kevin Martin a mentally weak player who can't adjust to life with a star guard teammate, and a player who is woofing it on the court, and whose on-court actions have been reprehensible.
Apparently, in the eyes of the Peach, the fame and glory from a 17-win season as the team's best player has gotten to K-Martin's head. The cat who stumped for Tyreke Evans from Day 1, the kid who heaped copious amounts of praise on Evans all through training camp and preseason and the start of the season and even while Martin was injured ... all of a sudden, this guy, in Peaches World, can't stand to see Reke's success. And this is supposedly mental weakness on the part of Martin.
Martin, who came up unheralded by the outside world in Zanesville, Ohio, population 25,000. Martin, who followed his dream at tiny Western Carolina of the Southern Conference. Martin, who got himself a personal trainer and went from nothing -- nothing -- an early entry player experts all across the nation called a fool for leaving school ... he went from that to the No. 26 in the NBA Draft in two months flat. He went from a rookie who couldn't get out of his warm-ups to a part-time starter for a playoff team. A nothing, a scrub, a perceived mistake ... to:
And from there, he turned himself into a machine. From nothing, he became a top-10 NBA scorer. Mentally weak? One of the most efficient players in the history of the game. Mentally weak? He took less shots than Mike Bibby and Ron Artest in his first season as the full-time starter ... and outscored them both. Mentally weak? He dealt with Bibby telling him that the Kings were Mike's team, and that if anyone averaged 20, it'd be Bibby. He dealt with his coach repeatedly demeaning his game in order to make nice with Artest. He didn't complain once. He continued to spend his summers improving himself, coming into training camp in midseason form (unlike the rest of the team). He worked harder than anyone employed by the franchise. Worked to get better. Worked to make the team better.
That 17-win season crushed him. He didn't ask out. He didn't make a show of demanding changes. He worked his ass off in the gym, he lobbied for Evans behind the scenes, he worked his ass off in the gym, he spread the good word of hoops in Indonesia, he worked with Omri Casspi at IMG in Florida, he worked his ass off in the gym, he came into November screeching. And that's the first time he groused publicly. About what, you ask? About the aforementioned play-by-play man, Napear, who before the fifth game of the season said that if Martin sat due to a wrist injury suffered in the previous game, then fans would be justified in calling Martin soft. Martin played. A post-game MRI showed a broken wrist bone. Martin missed two months. Martin and others (including Bobby Jackson) took Napear to task in a Sam Amick piece on Napear's ridiculous "tough guy" posture in which anyone who sits with less than a life-threatening injury is considered "soft." Napear defended himself, as stupid as it looked. A man who, in the face of overwhelming evidence that he is a complete tool, backs down is soft. So he sticks it out, and he waits for an opportunity for retribution.
You think Napear's assault on Martin right now has nothing to do with that Amick story? If so, I've got a Quincy Douby to sell you, and believe me, it is incredible. Peaches never lets go of a grudge, and he's trying to stick it to Martin right now on the airwaves. Martin's in a vulnerable position, with some parts of the Kings fanbase -- Fickleville and Shortsighted Sh*t Stirrer City, I'd call them -- turning. Martin's been in a slump relative to his standard, and the team can't win. This is Napear's opening, and he's taking full advantage with his 50,000-watt bullhorn. This is his Game 7.
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And some of these fans are actually buying it.
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You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is.
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You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we’re all too stupid to see it for what it is.
amen, sir. and all the fans who are buying it …… are mentally weak.
by what_the_crap on Feb 9, 2010 10:18 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I live outside of Sac now
So i had to buy league pass to watch the kings. I often get annoyed by other team’s announcers, mainly because they are so biased and often overlook our talent or make inaccurate statements about the Kings. However, this also makes me wonder what other people watching League pass think when their team plays the Kings and they have to sit through a game of Napear, without knowing what the majority of people think about the guy.
Grant, you not only shame yourself, but you make the entire Kings community and fan base look bad as well.
Can we write King’s management? Has that already been suggested?
Also,
I hope Kevin reads this article. I really don’t know how many of those guys get on sites like this, but I think he’d be happy to hear he has our support.
Maybe somebody can tell him who knows somebody
I agree. He should know that we support him and just what we think of it.
Yep, see below
The email address and phone number for the VP of Broadcasting is:
VP, Broadcast Operations and Production Craig Amazeen
916-928-5183
amazeen@arcoarena.com
by MustangMBS on Feb 9, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Amen Tom
I’ve never been able to listen to Napear on KHTK. I’d rather listen to KNBR and Warriors talk all day that listen to that blowhard.
Napear has always been an asshole to the callers of the show and this shit he’s pulling on Martin right now is a disgrace. I wish the Maloofs would just dump him from calling the Kings games.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
Amen brother
Rec’d and sig’d.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
This is all a shame,
I think grant is talented play by play excusing his propensity for giving shot jinxing stats. Ive always thought Jerry was the weak link (hes loveable but hes no upper echelon color guy) its just unfortunate Grant cant be recluse while not announcing. I guess im just glad Theus isnt around to get involved this time…
Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt -Vonnegut
Grant is an all around asshole with a major complex.
Please fire him so he can go back to the town he loves and become a nobody again.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
by moproblemz on Feb 9, 2010 10:27 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
OR hope the Peter Principle will kick in
I heard Peaches filling in for Jim Rome a couple of weeks ago. That’s a major gig. After I was done vomiting, I realized that the best thing that could happen would be for him to have a career breakthrough and move on to a Fox Sports or ESPN syndicated show. We’d never have to listen to him again.
I had a boss once who said he’d give a good recommendation to anyone—the good workers because they deserve it, and the bad ones because it will get them the hell out of his shop. Maybe we should start talking up Peaches so the networks will think he’s got this huge fan base!
I've talked to Martin...
many times after home games and from what I can tell, he loves Tyreke. Maybe something changed on the recent road trip and skewed that in a different direction. I don’t know. He always calls Tyreke “his guy.”
I don’t see how 20+ games together would have changed that into him not wanting to see Evans succeed. If Evans succeeds and the team succeeds then Martin also succeeds, which would in theory lead to another contract from the Kings to Martin’s bank account. So why try to stir shit up, Grant? Oh for listeners? Great.
By the way, Kevin Calabro is available for announcing games, birthday parties and corporate functions.
by Zach H from Talk H on Feb 9, 2010 10:27 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Really?
Did he lose his job with TNT? Kevin Calabro is awesome play-by-play guy. He did the Sonics games for years and years, right? Obviously prepared, knows his facts, exciting announcer. I would love to see him replace Peaches.
He's doing ESPN now
But that’s it, which means (like Marv, etc) he could be a local PBP guy too. He’s fantastic.
He did play-by-play for the Sonics while doing ESPN/TNT stuff. It’s doable, especially for a professional like him. And imagine him doing a radio show five days a week? I’d actually listen from the 4 to 7 ’o clock hours.
by Zach H from Talk H on Feb 9, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
He also lives in Seattle so that's probably out to get him to move to Sac to be the PBP guy.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Because Seattle's NBA team is keeping him busy?
Not saying either way, but if he’s a west coast guy, then staying on the west coast may be agreeable to him.
He didn't want to leave Seattle is the point.
That’s why he isn’t doing the Thunders games now.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
i dont want anyone from
Seattle, San Jose, Anaheim, or K City becoming the Kings play by play, it would just be too ominous
Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt -Vonnegut
Napear is the weak minded one
as I said yesterday, he has been preaching all season that he wasn’t judging on wins and losses, rather improving as a team. It was a tough month with a tough schedule and yes – there should have been a few more wins in there.
He has totally FAILED in his resolve.
Complaining about a game in which KM missed a few shots that might have turned a 115 – 104 loss into a 115 – 110 loss is ludicrous. Especially when that SG pulls down 7 rebounds, has 2 assists and no TOs. Thats the example of the TOR game but the PHX game was in the same category – whatever.
Its team and individual defense that has to be addressed because no matter what the result of those individual games, you’re just not going to win much in this league giving up an avg of 106 pts a game. Would a few more shots made and a GS type 121-120 win have filled the win column by 1? Sure.
Would it have made us better? No.
Its Crazy to be singling out Martin, chemistry takes at least a season to develop and I’m not convinced we have the final frontline piece that will allow us to really climb the ladder.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Feb 9, 2010 10:29 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
thank you
for saying what i wanted to say but lack the time at work to do so.
"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes
Napear is so petty it truly is disturbing
His own need to be spiteful and vent his spleen is more important to him than the ongoing success of the Kings. He seems to either be so petty and totally clueless about how this has the potential to make things worse for Kevin or he is intentionally trying to sabotage Kevin and by doing so is sabotaging the success of this team.
I think the Kings have to address one of their employees do something that can damage their success. They have an obligation to shut him up when he attacks their players and don’t seem to do anything. I would fire this guy.
He dealt with Bibby telling him that the Kings were Mike’s team, and that if anyone averaged 20, it’d be Bibby. He dealt with his coach repeatedly demeaning his game in order to make nice with Artest. He didn’t complain once
That’s why I’ve always had a lot of respect for K-Mart and lost all respect for Bibby. I always thought that was really petty of Mike.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
on retainer?
Once again, the Martin “Dream Team” comes to the rescue. Come on. Napes does no right, and Amick and Martin do no wrong. Whether is it 50/50 or 70/30, it sure is not 100/0. Did Napear over step his bounds yesterday? I think he did. But come, Martin is no angel. Hell, some of you think he could go down the American River, catch a few trout, stop by Raleys and pick up a few loaves of Wonder bread and feed all of Del Paso Heights.
I get a lot of you do not want to trade him, but stop trying to cut his lawn too. Out of the say 100 people who post on this site, say 10 of them (and I am one of them) would like to trade him for a quality big man. Does he really need this much defense? Is Mark Furman scaling someone’s fence again?
by noreboundsnorings on Feb 9, 2010 10:43 AM PST reply actions
we're still waiting
"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes
Waiting impatiently
What has Martin done wrong, were has he spoken out about a teammate?
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Feb 9, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
And it's not defense
against the people on this site. Most of those who disagree do so logically. (A few do not. A few other may make fair points, but present in such a way they come off as complete arseholes unworthy of response.)
It’s a defense against Napear’s bullsh*t accusations, and the simmering fan discontent they are causing.
Umm miss FTs and shots?
Only thing you could say. He has not even turned the ball over a lot. I do not even care about his comments at the press conference and this is coming from a guy who wants Iguodala.
I agree with you about trading him for a quality big man. But he’s never been a complainer and has had to deal with a lot of shit from coaches, players, and announcers.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
by 49er16 on Feb 9, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You might want to check the poll numbers for the Martin/Iggy-Dalembert trade
But keep exaggerating.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
by otis29 on Feb 9, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
HA
That way we can trade our 16 wins for 19? Wait we don’t have an allstar, or a 15 Mil a year guy stud, or Speights or Young. So maybe those 3 extra wins wouldn’t be gaurenteed? Get real with that trade. Do we really want a Dalembert for 11+ Mill a year, and a Tyreke Evans similiar play in Iggy (12+ Mil). Get real, or make the trade and start the bitching about those two and their salaries. If you want to be unrealistic with a Dalembert trade, go to “Realgm”.
I would suggest going to that trade thread and starting up that argument there
Otis was merely pointing out that alot of people on this site aren’t keen to defend Martin blindly and excessively.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
by iashwash on Feb 9, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for missing the point
The point is, a vast majority of people voted “Yes” on that trade, even though most of those people would probably curl up in the fetal position and cry for days if their beloved Kevin was traded.
It defies logic.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Or maybe
most people here are willing to trade Kevin to get better but we don’t necessarily WANT to trade him. We could trade Kevin for Lebron and in the back of our hearts we’d all still miss Kevin a little.
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Feb 9, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
No I got the point
Too many ignorant fans in our fan base. Thanks for pointing that out.
Please tell me you are Mike Murray from Rocklin HS
That would make my day
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 9, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Someone who went to RHS
Out of all the so-called Kings fans at that school, I have yet to find one on this board. A LOT of poser fans at Rocklin…“we like the Kings…as long as they’re good!”. Are you Mike Murray from RHS?
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 9, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
Yeah. Who are you? Find me on FB if u don’t wanna say on here.
Actually some have a clue and its not you
Some value Martin based on his worth as a player. His game and what he does. He IS one of the most efficient scorers in the league, has a great contract, low ego, and is a good team mate. There are lots of reasons to respect and value this sort of player. You just ignore all of this because you have a big hate on for him. You are clueless because you let your emotions engage to the point where it has derailed your higher brain functions.
You're a little off here
I’m one of the people that would be willing to trade Kevin for a quality big man to improve our interior D skills. However, at this point the only one on my list is Perkins.
That being said, Grant was way off base. Kevin really hasn’t done anything wrong in his whole time here.Is he made at himself for not playing up to his standards? Most definitely. Is he a little irritated with home fans booing him when he’s done nothing but good for this franchise? He should be. Let’s not pretend that this is anything more than Napear being a douche bag. Peaches is essentially a politcal pundit on Fox News or MSNBC. He attacks someone he has a grudge with (even though the grudge isn’t based on any form of truth or reality) and just keeps pounding away at it. The empty can rattles the most.
I think we’d all be better off never listening to Peaches. Just a tought…
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Feb 9, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
so apparantly one must either call Kevin Martin mentally soft or think he is the second coming of Christ
What’s so wrong for people appreciating Martin? Give me a solid reason why we should appreciate Napear.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He’s a pretty good PBP guy.
I remember my first exposure to his radio show, I was living in SLO and he was filling in for Rome. I thought “cool, the Kings PBP guy is doing national radio, this should be fun!” I turned it off after 10 minutes because he’s a complete tool.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Amen.
Preach Preacha!
Blessings.Love.Peace
by lifestyleforthesellout on Feb 9, 2010 10:43 AM PST reply actions
THis article here is the difference between....
…someone who follows the Kings, knows them and ATTEMPTS objectivity. Peaches on the otherhand has to stir the pot to try to increase his ratings to stay afloat. I’m getting more and more convinced that the Blogs of the world > MSM outlets for informative education on their subjects. Of course, not all blogs are created equal, and I’m referring to legitimate blogs like this one.
Peaches is either
mistaking a lack of confidence for being mentally weak, or he is too stupid to know the difference. Either way, it is reprehensible.
Peaches is an asshat...
He’s been sitting on his brain so long that it’s been deprived of oxygen. That’s the only conclusion I can come to that would possibly explain such a moronic position. This guy is obviously a legend in his own mind. I think it’s time for the Maloofs and KHTK to show him the door. Don’t let the door hit you in the brain (err, ass) on the way out!
Purveyor of Bull Plop
one of the many things i find repulsive about peaches
is how he always acts on the pre and postgame interviews like he’s the players’ good buddy and how the players go along with it.
hopefully the silver lining here is that the players will shun him and it will be the first step toward getting him out of here
his radio show is flat out unlistenable, time to quarantine the peaches from the valley
by lchristmas on Feb 9, 2010 10:57 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Its all about access
He has to be nice in person, or they wont sit with him, he needs the access. Behind their backs, he’s a prick.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Feb 9, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
Hardly ever post but...
I am in total agreement. Peaches is the worst thing to this franchise. He makes everyone on the court and behind the scenes jobs harder. He want to make a media splash, and usually in doing so harms the kings and the front office.
He is a bad man and needs to be stopped. Anyone know of a facebook group, or petition, or somethin we can send to Petrie and the Maloofs? Grants time has come to leave town and the red headed devil horse he road in on.
Also, I suggested to a friend the other day, Scot Pollard to announce the games anyone? Complete oposite of peaches, as he is always positive, fun, and insightful.
Keep posting
Your opinion is valued and welcomed
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Feb 9, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
reply.
First of all, I am not attacking anyone on this site, especially Mr. Z. I appreciate the article and your opinion and all the hard work you put into the site and your thoughts. All I am asking is why is it every other day that Martin needs to be defended? Can Napear be a fuuu…ing asshole. Sure can and sometimes it can be several hours and days in a row. But I guess the long and short of my question is why does Martin need so much defense?
You don’t want him traded. I get it. You have watched him as a rookie and have seen him grow up and he has a place in your heart/soul? I get it. Hell, I even have an autograph Xmas ornament from Martin’s rookie season that may worth some money now. You want to see it work with Evans, I get it. You thought he had a chance to make the all-star team this year before he got hurt, I get it.
But out of the 12 players on the Kings, Martin seems to get the most defense.
by noreboundsnorings on Feb 9, 2010 11:03 AM PST reply actions
Who is getting attacked unfairly more than Martin?
Hell, who is getting attacked by Napear other than Martin period?
Attacked daily.
It’s not just Napes either. Lunch time douche(Koz) talks shit about KM all the time too and he catches it from national media and the bee. It’s coming from every direction and it’s recockulous, he’s done nothing wrong but have perhaps his first cold streak ever. I’m just sick of this crap.
"My rhymes are so potent that in this small segment, I made all of the ladies in the area pregnant. Yes I know sometimes my lyrics are sexist, but you lovely bitches and hoes should know I'm trying to correct this." -Jermaine
There is a difference between being dissapointed by Martin's play
and tearing him up based on personal agenda.
because
he’s one of the most efficient scorers in the league, capable of scoring 25-26 PPG a night. Those types of players dont grow on trees.
I dont know if it’s right to trade him or not, but then again, given his past, I’m not willing to judge him off the last 15 games. he deserves more time.
by what_the_crap on Feb 9, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Martin has earned the defense
Ziller makes the case for why we love him. He works hard. He doesn’t complain. He’s a great teammate. The only negative thing he’s done publically is get mad about being booed. He knows he’s playing like shit and is booing himself. He doesn’t need it from the fans too. That being said, why is he being trashed by Peaches? There’s no real reason for it, but he is. If he were unfairly trashing anyone else on the team, we’d be defending them too.
www.mancancook.net
He's getting defense in proportion
To the vitriol of his detractors. When you say that Kevin is hardly an angel, or when CCR says (without any…you know…facts) that Kevin has severed his ties to the franchise and the fans, then the argument is getting personal with a guy who has been nothing but a model citizen and teammate over the course of his career.
Bottom line is – back up your sh*t with some facts, or shut the f*ck up. Or be prepared to be roasted. Your choice.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Please call the Kings VP responsible for Napear
I found out who we need to call to complain about Napear. So if people could either call or email Craig that would rock. I have a call into him and left a voicemail. Let’s fill up his inbox and voicemail people!
VP, Broadcast Operations and Production Craig Amazeen
916-928-5183
amazeen@arcoarena.com
by MustangMBS on Feb 9, 2010 11:06 AM PST reply actions 9 recs
Awesome! Thanks!
Come on people! If you really take offense then do something more than just post comments about it.
copy of the email i sent
To Whom It May Concern:
As a long time kings fan I think I should preface this email by stating that I have thought and continue to think that Grant Napear is an above average play-by-play announcer.
However, his repeated remarks on his radio show, which I understand is beyond your purview, disparaging certain members of the organization has given me cause to question the wisdom of having Mr. Napear as the voice of the franchise. As KHTK is the only local outlet for Kings news/interviews most fans tune in regularly to Grant’s show. While listening they repeatedly hear him demean, without cause and with apparent malice, the Kings owners, coaches and/or players and then come on the TV broadcast and present an image of being "good buddies" the interviewees. To make matters worse, it is apparent that the reasons for his vitriol is personal in nature and his comments form some kind of vendetta.
It appears from the outside looking in that the organization is either unaware of, or condones this type of behavior. Either of these conclusions paints the organization in a bad light. While I understand the Kings organization cannot censor what Mr. Napear says on his radio show, they can control whether or not he has a place in their organization as their mouthpiece.
I for one would regret seeing Grant replaced as the Kings TV announcer, but I would regret even more seeing things continue as they have for the past several months.
Respectfully,
"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes
thank you
and i rec’d your original post for supplying the #/address. I’ve been wanting to do something like this for awhile. Now let’s get KHTK’s……
"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes
I tried looking them up and found the sales manager
They don’t seem to make their information public…
The game by game stuff he is paid by the Maloofs
He has two seperate employers here
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
This is true.
But if the Maloofs fire him, KHTK will have no use for him.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Sent an email
Called Peaches counter productive to the organization and fan base.
His negativity
scares fans away from players and in turn disconects fans from the team, thus ticket sales fall. Remember back in the day when the kings felt more like neighbors, than the “soft” guys that never live up to the peaches par?
True...
For a listener to hear this they could easily think, ‘When the team is so bad that their own announcer trashes them then they must really suck. Why should I buy tickets.’
Done and Done
Thanks Mustang. I will probably email and phone a few more times too. I might even spend the day creating email addresses to email from. I hate Grant. He is so hungry for attention and respect I can smell the desperation from him way up here in Seattle. When the broadcast gets to the point where GG, Fat, Jerry, and Grant are all on screen together, do you notice how no one talks to Grant? Watch his face, he know’s he is the least important man there.
When you're a Peach you have nowhere to go but up. :)
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Thanks Mustang
Done and done.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
email I sent
Sir,
I’m an avid fan of the Sacramento Kings, I attend 5 games a year,
watch most games on TV, and listen to the kings flagship radio station
in the car as well as participating in local internet discussions
about the Kings.
I’m really fed up with the Vitriol and disprespect that Grant Napear
has been showing Kings players over the years, culminating with his
latest disparaging remarks about Kevin Martin on his afternoon radio
show. I feel that his negative attitude drives fans away from the
kings and creates an “us versus them” mentality locally. I believe
that if Grant’s role was reduced, or at the very least, his attitude
toward team players was to change, the Kings and the fans (myself
included) would benefit immensely.
Thank you for taking the time to read this,
by TheFifthMookie on Feb 9, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
Email sent!
Thanks for finding this info. I have been frustrated with this situation and feeling helpless.
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
Believe me, it was my pleasure.
My wife suggested that we plan a phone in. I guess you set a date and time for a phone in and have everybody call at the same time… Could be fun…
ccr reply
Otis, I did not have any thing to do with the CCR. Not sure what the CCR is? You may want to get your facts straight. I think coolcat had the CCR reference?
by noreboundsnorings on Feb 9, 2010 11:12 AM PST reply actions
Finkle is Einhorn
Einhorn is Finkle
by what_the_crap on Feb 9, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
FINKLE'S A MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Sorry.)
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Cue soundtrack from The Crying Game
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
LOL
I’d rather not. It’s bad enough having to read yet another Peaches rant on Speed that was uncalled for.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
and now i have the visual of Peaches rocking a mangina
thanks assholes, thanks a lot
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Oh god Wally how dare you?
How fucking dare you?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It's official I hate you Wally.
But that’s mostly because you made transvestites far less attractive. How dare you!
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
now i can never see a redhead as attractive
frickin awesome
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
STOP IT! JUST STOP IT!
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If you want to call that a social life, then sure.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
K-Mart could have easily bolted town
When he had a chance but instead stuck with a team that was clearly in rebuild mode and had a revolving door of coaches each of his last 5 seasons. Not a one negative word was said by Martin, all he did was go to work and play great basketball which is all we could ask for. All this talk of Martin being mentally weak is bullshit. Bottom line is that Peaches is way off base with his remarks.
Peaches' job is to stir things up
Frankly I don’t know how he sleeps at night, but it’s the job he’s chosen, and if it wasn’t Peaches sitting in the chair it would be someone else equally obnoxious.
He wouldn’t get away with it if there wasn’t a constituency of listeners/supposed fans who think it’s totally acceptable to call out someone’s character/manhood/personality/work ethic/soul in the most hysterical terms possible just because he’s had a few bad games putting a leather ball through a basket.
Look inward, friends. There may be a Peaches inside your heart.
(The exorcism is pretty painful too, especially that last part when the demon shouts “OH BOY!!!”)
by nbrans on Feb 9, 2010 11:14 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I refuse to believe there is a Peaches inside my heart.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I agree...
I can’t stand Napear, very arrogant/obnoxious on the radio and on tv very buddy buddy with the players that he talks sh*t about..
My friend is a doctor and once met him when he was waiting in line for a check up. he didn’t want to wait so he told me friend “do you know who i am?” hahaha what an ass!
Put cwebb or funderburke in there instead!!
Greetings from Mexico
I'm hoping there is a silver lining......
….and that silver lining is the Maloof’s firing Peaches from his radio show if he wants to continue as PBP man for the Kings on the TV side.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I suppose I should also say this
This crap will continue otherwise. Peaches is too old to change. You can’t teach a stupid old Peach-hole like Peaches new tricks. You just can’t.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I completely agree.
That is why I posted contact information. He needs to get fired. Either that or be under the threat of being fired.
How many jobs would allow this kind of thing. It is just bizarre.
I'd propose to slow down on the "Peaches" moniker,
it makes him seem like an endearing “heel”. He is anything but that. Instead of saying, “Peaches is a tool!!!”, I prefer just using his last name, i.e. “Napear is an idiot and a waste of skin”.
Has more of a sting to it in my opinion. “Peaches” sounds like a heckle for a “wrastler”, a character. Attacking a guy who is genuinely nice in Martin, and bringing it off the basketball court is not the same as macho-posturing. It is malicious. He doesn’t deserve a tongue-in-cheek nickname, even though he hates it.
It’s too good for him.
You don’t take debates off the basketball court like he did, attacking the person someone is off the court, when they haven’t done anything to deserve it. Even if he continues to not play very well on the court, his personality should not come under fire.
Peaches is a tool Grant Napear is a malicious person, kicking an upstanding man when he’s down.
"Thou must give props" - Ice_9ine
I'm gonna go out on a limb here
and say that Kevin drops at least 30 tonight and gives Peaches a “fuck you” stare after every bucket
www.mancancook.net
And then he'll take credit for lighting a fire under Kevin.
by nbrans on Feb 9, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
That post kicked ass
And Grant “Peaches” Napear should be fired for being such an unbelievable douchebag, as I’ve been saying for years.
i love that attitude, "of course he should play with a fractured wrist; we're in a recession for christ sakes!"
id be so pissed if this fella was connected with the team i follow.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
by TheMoon on Feb 9, 2010 11:33 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for your sig line
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 9, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Great Article
I cringe everytime i get the “home” broadcast with grant on leaguepass. It is not a good sign when a kings fan would rather listen to the competitions broadcasts.
Balance
I have always thought it an impossible task given the position Napear is in. As a play by play tv commentator, he is a Kings employee. As a talk show host, I assume he is an Infinity Broadcasting or CBS employee. It would take a special person to be able to balance both sides equally and fairly and Grant is not special.
My first memories of this is when he was constantly ripping C-Webb on his talk show about the pot use etc.. I would then tune into a game and he acted as though he was a good company man praising the team as if nothing was wrong. This latest issue he has with Kevin Martin is more of the same.
How the Maloofs can stand for this is beyond me. If he wants to rant about a Kings employee, then let him have his show and go for it, but he should not be working for the organization. He may or may not last long. If he wants to continue his tv duties, then he needs to quit the radio. If he doesn’t then I hope the Maloofs get rid of him. I would love to see Gary Gerould do the tv stuff as well as the radio stuff although I am not sure that is possible.
Simulcast is possible.
I’m just not sure the Kings would want to do it that way.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Peaches makes Marv Albert
look sane. You just know after the road game, Peaches is dancing around in a motel in rubber leiderhosen screaming “Somebody’s gonna have to spank me!”
That's a pretty disturbing thought.
Thanks a lot .
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
This whole thread is a disturbing image.
What are you talking about?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
and you know this how?
"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes
In all Fairness...
I honestly dont get all the hatred on this site that is pointed in Napears direction…. I NEVER have and I never will. Anyone that has NBA League pass must recognize that he is simply one of the best color commentators in the L… I cringe listening to other broadcasters constantly acting like “homers, etc”…..
As for his Radio show… Yeah, the guy can be an ass at times… But I would be as well if I had to deal with the large # of clowns that call radio shows and say ridiculous things. (BTW, who calls radio shows anyway?!?!?!)… So I have a hard time believeing that anybody on this site would act any differently that Napear does on 1140 when it comes to hanging up on, shouting people down every now and again…..Maybe its cause he’s a Yankee fan and people out West despise him for that.. (yea, im serious)
As for Martin.. I’ve always liked him for is ability to score. BUT…. Should be really be this down on Napear for calling him out for reasons that very well may be TRUE? Yeah, 25+ scorers dont grow on trees, but guys that can do/are willing to do the things that Kevin does sub-par do grow on trees… It pains me to watch a guy with as much tools as Kevin has consistently get beat on D, rebound at a below average rate, and pass at a below average level… Im sure Napear understands this is well and is unloading on him primarily for those reasons..After all, is it REALLY that bad to accuse a player of being mentally weak when he has been an AMAZING FT shooter his whole life but immediately becomes AVERAGE as soon as trade talks arise…. Seriusly folks, cmon now…..
I understand that Ziller and co. wave their K-Mart Flags proudly on this site, but dont be fooled into thinking that Napear is off base with his statements… Hell, look at the way in which Tyreke WANTS the ball at the end of the game as opposed to the “dissapearing act” that Martin performs in crunchtime . (Or when he does get it, he looks to be bailed out by a foul call rather than making the actual shot)……..Thats a sure indicator of a players mental toughness….I see it in the damn 8th graders I coach, you can tell early on who is mentally strong and who isnt….Ask any coach or player-
This is an open forum for educated thoughts… Brownie points are not awarded for agreeing with EVERYTHING the moderator says… after all, Im sure Napear knows a shitload more than Ziller, Section 214 and anyone else on this forum (myself included)…. give Peaches a break fellas-
Mike Lamb
Is that you?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
by otis29 on Feb 9, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Does this mean that...
Are Mike Lamb and Grant Napier an item or something? All this talk about red-headed transvestites has me confused.
Personally
I’d stack TZ’s knowledge of hoops against Napear any day, any time. I’ve never been impressed by Grant Napear’s knowledge of anything sports related on his show.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Really?
Well… you may be right, but I sure hope you know him damn well outside of this forum…
How many times you played pickup with him?…. or in a league with him?…. Or sat on his couch and watched countless games with him?…
Point being….You can number crunch and explain the game realllly well (as TZ does)… that doesnt necessarily translate into know the game at a peak level….
Napear has been sitting courtside for YEARS…. he knows the game damn well
If Billy Beane read this, he wouldn't be very happy
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Grant Napear is on-air entertainment
With extra focus on the word “entertainment”. His style appeals to the knuckleheads who like to hear him talk shit about black quarterbacks and yell at the inbreds that call periodically.
If it was important to actually know something tangible about sports, Grant Napear would be working a radio station in Nome, Alaska.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Omri Casspi
On the day of the 2009 draft, Grant had never even HEARD of Casspi. That’s pathetic and shows how little Napear really follows basketball. If you listen to his show, which I do only when they are talking about the Kings, it’s about 75% NFL talk. He rarely ever mentions basketball except to discuss the Kings.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
He would also mention how much he hated Allen Iverson in earlier years too.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
He knows what's in front of him.
He’s watched the games and talked to the players.
That’s not basketball knowledge.
He’d be at a total loss to put together any kind of analysis like you find from many posters on this site, and the editors of this site are far above his reach.
Like you, I watch the games on League Pass. And I agree that Napear is a far-above-average play-by-play announcer compared to the rest of the league’s homers. But Jerry is the one with any BBIQ in that little tandem.
Seriously. Listen to which of them talks during any kind of analysis. It’s Jerry every time.
And unless you can dispute that he is a petty, small-minded, vindictive man who is stirring up the casual fans into an uproar over Kevin Martin with actual facts, your argument is baseless.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 9, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Sitting courtside doesn't mean anything.
Seriously?
I find the guy (Napear) remarkably un-insightful. I have LOATHED him for the past 20+ years.
Personally, I find VERY few sources to be very interesting or insightful regarding hoop – a subject I am extremely particular about. That being said, I think this site is outstanding, and Ziller’s knowledge to be outstanding. I’d take him over Napear 10 out of 10 times. No contest.
what about hockey
i don’t know a damn thing about it, seems like napear might, i dunno.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
a lot of your statements
mainly this one
as opposed to the "dissapearing act" that Martin performs in crunchtime . (Or when he does get it, he looks to be bailed out by a foul call rather than making the actual shot)
go back and see how many clutch shots Martin has hit. I like that people who criticize Martin wanna completely forget what he’s done the last few years, and just wanna go off of this year.
by what_the_crap on Feb 9, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Couldn't agree more
Having the ball in your possession at the end of a game and being expected to make a shot to win is not something that you can throw on a guy once every, let’s say, 20 games and expect him to do well at it. Just like every other aspect o the game it takes practice at clutch shots to be successful with clutch shots. Remember tyreke when he went at lebron and then at Kobe? He messed up, but the more times he has been put in that situation the better at it he has gotten. Now that the ball is tyrekes to control at the end of games and he was out it was thrust onto Kevin. Not only that, but a slumping kevin. The sample size of this season is just not accurately representative of kevins ability to score when it matters.
Really?
but dont be fooled into thinking that Napear is off base with his statements
So you think this has nothing to do with Martin calling out Napear on the “soft” B.S. in November? Really?
by Ziller on Feb 9, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Never said that....
Somewhat of a reckless accusation Ziller, I dont know where you got that one from…..I’m sure there is a bit of hostility there….
however, when you break down what he cites as “evidence” for K-Mart being somewhat weak minded… he really isnt that far off base. IMO
Never said it?
You said:
don’t be fooled into thinking that Napear is off base with his statements
I quoted it above, you couldn’t have missed it. I said, then, that you must not be buying that this stems from the incident. You can’t have it both ways, man. Either you think Napear’s getting back at Martin by trying to tear him down, or you think he’s spreading truth.
by Ziller on Feb 9, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
noo....
You made the assumtion that “So you think this has nothing to do with Martin calling out Napear on the "soft" B.S. in November? Really?”…….. I NEVER said that-
Thats what i was alluding to. (sry for not knowing how to flag in blue)
I dont think its a black and white issue like you mentioned above…. Getting back? really? Sure, that could be a factor… but I have a hard time believing Napear is being that petty… Could be wrong of course… But i dont think he’s that much of an unprofessional…
type the letters B and than Q and then a period (like this .) in front of a paragraph and it will light up blue.
And whatever you do when you dive into this rabbit hole of a discussion, i beg you not to dive into the words and phrases “heart” “passion” “intensity” and “like Jon Brockman” I beg you
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
er “b” and “q” sorry
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Hoops
I dont think its a black and white issue like you mentioned above…. Getting back? really? Sure, that could be a factor… but I have a hard time believing Napear is being that petty… Could be wrong of course… But i dont think he’s that much of an unprofessional…
The guy called Martin soft for thinking about sitting with a frickin broken hand already. I think this guy has shown to be pretty unprofessional
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
valid point
But do you think he knew enough to call him soft? When he found out that Martin was in fact injured did he ever make a public apology on his show?
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
What do you think?
What do you think the likelihood of Napear actually making an apology on his show after that?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Agreed...
He should have done that….
But i have a hard time beieving he was unprofessional enough to criticize a guy he knew had a broken hand
But i have a hard time beieving he was unprofessional enough to criticize a guy he knew had a broken hand
Yet that’s exactly what we are saying. He’s not only unprofessional; he’s just that dense.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
maybe
he could have waited to find out the real story behind Martin’s hand before making such a jackass statement.
by what_the_crap on Feb 9, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
personally
I would give him a pass if he went out of his way afterwards and to address it after we found out about the injury. If he was able to admit he was out of line and was able to come off a humbled I wouldn’t think he was just going after Martin here.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
and yet
he tore into B Jax when he had an abdominal tear or whatever…and he knew that was the case. He just wanted him to “man up”.
"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes
But he never took on Artest -
At least not until the day after Ron-Ron was traded…
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
that's because Ron-Ron would have eaten his children
and wore Grant Napear’s face as a jock strap.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
ron-ron
is scary….wouldn’t it have been great to see him go after his own team’s play-by-play guy in the middle of a game.
"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes
Well i dunno what else to tell you. From what I can tell he never did apologize and has on top of that ripped into Amick out of nowhere recently (i actually think it was a valid arguement about Amick’s article but it went way over board).
And I don’t care if he apologized to Martin privately. He needed to apologize on the radio because that’s where he said it.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Thing is
Napear didn’t know EITHER WAY.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
And
I fail to see how the fact that folks agree with something make the original opinions or those supporters’ opinions invalid.
By the way, bro, Martin has always been at or above average in rebound rate for two-guards, and he’s at 82 percent from the line since coming back, which isn’t that shocking a drop from his 85 percent career rate, is it?
All that matters is he tried to get fouled against Denver in the last seconds of OT.
That’s why his rebound rate sucks. No, really, you know that’s what it is.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That's what I said after reading your original statement.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Pukey....
You dont have issue with our “best scorer” looking to draw a foul as opposed to focusing on making a game winner?
Of course not.
I’m too busy giving him a blow job afterwards.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
that bugs me
granted i don’t think it bugs me because it shows he has no “passion” (i know you didn’t say that i am referring to what i hear alot) but it bugs me because it makes me think he has little confidence in his game at the moment. I don’t think there is really anyone to blame for the confidence stuff, either way it lead to a questionable decision. Either way though, i choose to look at the entire game. I hardly see teams or players make good decisions late in the game, whether or not it turns out to work.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
You must think Dwayne Wade is a pretty garbage player
After all, what kind of mentally weak pansy would focus on drawing fouls?
I’m pretty sure they actually changed the rule on drawing fouls away from the basket because Wade was so mentally weak all the time.
just a side note
but why do we care about a 2 guard’s rebounding rate?
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Because the better his rebounding rate is
The greater it makes him able to defend in the post.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
i forgot about the direct correlation between rebounding and defense
it’s all coming together for me now. I feel so knowledgeable!
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
no.....
Listen fatty….
I’m not HUGE on numbercrunching…. I dont think rebound rates, etc. are indicitive of a players overall worth….I’m sure as hell not using that as a crutch for my argument…
I’m simply saying that maybe Napear isnt as far “off base” as he is being accused of…. IMO
Listen fatty….
that just made my frickin day.
Excuse me while i pull out the popcorn
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
Fatty?
I didn’t realize you knew me.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
that's what i was thinking
"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes
Great minds think alike debrix :)
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
But if he's attacking someone's character with no real rhyme or reason
isn’t that off base?
www.mancancook.net
I'm talking about Peaches
he basically attacked Martin’s character by calling him mentally weak and soft. Yet there’s no basis for it.
www.mancancook.net
Wellll
Im sure he knows Martin better than EVERYONE on this board… Thats why I said he may not be “off base”…
thats the point of my initial argument
Let's assume you're right, and he does have some info about Martin's character
why not speak on it? why not back his lame ass argument up with actual reasons and evidence?
www.mancancook.net
I understand that it might not be slander per se
but it’s still pretty darn low to rip him like that.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
What about Sam Amick?
Does he know Kevin better than Sam?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
and by the way
When Sam Amick every mentions Napear, he solely talks about what Napear said in the public. He does not spout off on suggestive opinion. And it doesn’t come out of nowhere, it’s when Napear went after him and he had to defend himself.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
For a long time
Peaches had a strangehold on information. When Amick came around, and most players saw that there was a reliable beat writer (and by reliable not a stupid asshole wearing a Yankees hat like Marty Mac) who wouldn’t toss their shit aside and gossip about it in public, they tend to confide him in more. There’s a reason Grant Napear is so angry about Sam Amick, and it’s not because Sam is an asshole behind the scenes. It’s because Sam has a great deal more of influence over the public because the public has figured out that Sam knows far more about the Kings than Napear does.
That attacks the credibility Napear has, and that’s what he’s afraid of. What’s amusing is that by attacking Martin so profusely (and in the childish manner Napes does it in), it’s almost amusing that Napear’s ego isn’t the real story. Because, if nothing else, that’s all this story is.
Kevin Martin, Sam Amick (and most of us), simply file Grant Napear under “life’s too short”.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Feb 9, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
And for those wondering what I meant
I mean this. (This is mostly the article that Amick wrote on Martin in the blockquotes.)
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
This is the better article to read in regards to how Theusgate started.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
and why should we just take Napear at his word on this?
He’s just shouting an opinion out one that is attacking someone’s character or reputation at their job
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Respectfully disagree
I don’t think that Napear does know Martin better than the sum of this board, which is partially why Napear doesn’t like Martin. My bet is that Martin rarely (if ever) gives Napear the time of day, and the fact that Martin and Amick have a good relationship pisses him of greatly.
Proximity does not equal knowledge
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by section214 on Feb 9, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Dammit you ruined my point 214.
But good on you.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
i rec'd you anyways
you used more words. they were small, simple words, but you tried.
"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes
A real possibility?
It’s already happened for years. Where have you been? Or did you forget how Theusgate happened? My how the mighty have fallen….
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I was...
alluding to the “real possibility” that Martin doesnt give Napear the time of day…
There’s NO way you know whether thats true or no… but its a “real possibility”.. Section raises a good point
Does Martin ever go on Napear's show?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
LOL.
Yet you prove my point perfectly.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Grown man doing LOL?
Pretty lame… anyways, I doubt Napear gives a damn whether or not Martin is on his show
Would you have preferred
L…O…L…?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
LOL
That was some weak crap there. LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL,
if he wants more Kings fans
listening, he should.
by what_the_crap on Feb 9, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
I am a grown man. Thanks for noticing.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
So you're just a young 40 old eh?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
30 is overrated.
I prefer 29.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I think
the only Kings guy that does is PW.
by what_the_crap on Feb 9, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
And I think he's bound to do that because of his contract.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
and
I think the only reason why he does that is to pimp the Cadillac dealership.
by what_the_crap on Feb 9, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
You must listen to the radio show occasionally.
I never do.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That counts as occasionally.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
He is paid for it.
Same as the Mercedes commercials.
flagged
Blatant person attack. Not cool.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Feb 9, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Fair enough....
Not cool….My apologies…
However, I constantly watch people get “bullied” on here but a few parties… thats not cool either…
Enough of this tho… It wont happen again
I agreed on the bullie-ing (sp?)
But I think there is a HUGE difference between attacking a persons ideas, thoughts, or opinions and attacking them personally.
I’ve got no problem with the arguement and difference of opinion
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Feb 9, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
hey shutup Fatty!
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
No no 27.
To be attacked, i have to take offense. Being called fat is hardly offensive.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not Phat either.
Jeesh. Don’t do me like that MBS.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Pleasantly plump?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
No. Fat.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Anyone that has NBA League pass must recognize that he is simply one of the best color commentators in the L
I suppose it’s a bit unfortunate that Peaches is the PBP guy then.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Feb 9, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
ha
"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes
As for his Radio show… Yeah, the guy can be an ass at times… But I would be as well if I had to deal with the large # of clowns that call radio shows and say ridiculous things.
Um, sorry but that sounds like Napear’s problem, that doesn’t excuse him. I think people wouldn’t so harsh on Napear if he had not already put himself in a bad situation where he was already calling Martin soft. It just feels like now he has his reputation on the line with Martin and is more than happy to reinforce what he has said before.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
OMG you can't be for real
Do you hate this team? Do you want KMart to suffer a prolonged slump? Do you want fans to BOO the Kings because they will do it even more if Grant Napear the asshat stirs up enough of this crap.
You have to be kidding that fans should not get pissed about this stupidity. Napear is attacking and kicking a player when he is down who deserves better.
Give Napear a break? How about a prolonged break from his current position?
Not at all...
As a matter of fact… I GUARENTEE I have been to more games than you, been to Arco more than you… Hung out with the players more that you…. am known by 3 or 4 guys on the team by first name, etc.. know shit that you WOULDNT believe about these guys etc…. so NO, i do not hate the Kings…in fact, I love them…
My only fault here seems to be defending Napear
That was some serious dick waving
Well done!
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Probably looked a lot like this...

StR Token Female
by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 9, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Nah, more like this:

I'm a limousine-riding, jet-flying, kiss-stealing, wheeling-dealing son of a gun!!! Wooooo!!!
by Noble_Bloodlines on Feb 9, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
What have the other players told you about Kevin?
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Nothing....
Im not claiming to have talked hoops with them…. Im sure they like him as hes a good dude… but I’m sure everyone of them would hand the keys of the Team to Tyreke in the even that they decide they cant mesh
Just because they can read your name tag when you hand them their fucking latte
doesn’t give your argument any credibility
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Feb 9, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
hmmm....
Really?…. dont assume I wear a nametag… or serve shit to anyone buddy…
thats laughable….I dont need to verify my statement other than what I said.. Im not here to drop gossip, insider stuff…. all i said was that I know the team and a number of guys on the team damn well…
Sorry if I dont idolize them and sit arund talking about them ALLLLLL day…. they are just normal guys afterall
Listen, "buddy"
the point is, whether or not you know some of the players and are on a first name basis is completely isn’t relevant at all. It in now way shows that you don’t hate the team. It just shows that you’re the type of guy that name drops local celebs to look cool.
www.mancancook.net
Welll
The only reason why I said that was bc Mustang was asking if I “hate” the Kings, “Want” them to get bood etc..
I clearly said that I go to all the games and love the Kings… I didnt mention any names, therefore, wasnt name dropping local celebs
didnt mean to ruffle your feathers champ
But there was no reason to say that some of them no you by your first name
other than to look cool. Knowing some of the players isn’t proof that you like them or want them to do well. I could know Kobe Bryant and I’d still hate the [redacted]. You didn’t name drop anybody specifically but you might as well have. And quit with the cutesy nicknames and give god damned my venti nonfat chai latte!
www.mancancook.net
the guy was getting like 80 comments fired at him at once
Probably felt like he was putting out fires everywhere. I wouldn’t read too much into it. At least he didn’t started typing names.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
So glad you figured that one out champ.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Feb 9, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You're welcome Hoops.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
No no no
defending someone who shit talks for the sake of shit talking is not popular. Peaches has long been a shit disturber. Nows he’s attacking our guy’s character. Not only that but he’s doing so with no evidence to back him up. Sure, according to guys like you and CCR he may have some inside dirt on what a bad guy Martin is. But he hasn’t backed up his statements with any of that information. You’re defending him based on that fact that he mightknow more information than us. Being the inside man, and being the guy who started this means that Napear has the burden of proof. He’s proven nothing other than he has a grudge with the one guy who has worked his ass off and liked being here even when the team sucked.
www.mancancook.net
and liked being here even when the team sucked
The team hasn’t been so great this year either V. I agree with your point on the whole, but just not this.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Well....
I dont give a damn about lookin cool in front of a bunch of people who have nothing better to do than sit around and talk about other grown men all day long…..Sure as hell wasnt doing it for that reason
But there was no other reason to do it than to look cool
it didn’t help you prove your point at all, it just pointed out that you’re Omri’s favorite barista
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Feb 9, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
I saw this one coming. I think it’s #96 in the internet troll playbook.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
by otis29 on Feb 9, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd solely for Internet Troll Playbook.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Does any of that formation include eating the shotgun?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Feb 9, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That is weak. Really lame.
Napear is damaging the brand here. So, if you are such a high flyer and invested member of this establishment you should take offense. You reply in no way addresses any of my points other than to say you don’t hate the Kings.
Please explain to me have Napear’s attack on Martin has ANY upside? Explain to me how this benefits anybody?
Didnt mean to confuse you...
I’m a huge Kings fan…. I dont wish them to get bood, etc. as you suggested…
Although he is an employee of the Kings, 1140 pays him to comment on all SPORTS… He gave his opinion, in a NY kind of way….
I dont necessarily think its a bad thing…. Aside from causing wayyy too much conversation on here
i must admit, i don't see why he has to kiss player's asses
i don’t care about his duty to damage the brand. When he said the comments, he was working for 1140 not the Kings. I am sure he has it in his contract that he can give his opinion on the Kings during his time at 1140. He he wasn’t able to give his opinion on them and had to kiss their asses then I think that would be disaster
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
b/c then why would anyone even both to listen to him. he would be a frickin chearleader
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I ponder the cheerleader thing
Especially when I’m listening to KNBR, the Bay Area dudes are still critical thinking about their teams, but that aura of hate and disrespect isn’t there like it is here on KHTK. It’s hard for me to put my finger on exactly what’s different, sort of like the KNBR crew are happy even when things aren’t going well (exception: Damien Bruce), and KHTK (Grant, Lamb, and Whitey) are all pissy.
by TheFifthMookie on Feb 9, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
it probably has more to do with the Bay Area being a more desirable location
Thus, they get the people who are very good at the sports radio thingy
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
He doesn't need to kiss ass
he just shouldn’t make baseless remarks about a player’s character
www.mancancook.net
exactly
i’m just point out that I don’t care if “Napear damages the brand.” This crap he did is much worse than that, it’s flat out personal attacks.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
i also like to point out i can’t type
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
We know that.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Well Stated....
Very nicely put Wally…
Its hard to seperate between the two when it comes to TV Napear and Radio Napear…
I think it would be a dissaster as well if he was a cheerleader for the Kings on 1140
and I would agree with that
i just wanted to emphasize that wanting Grant Napear to not hurt the brand has dangerous consequences in general. I just wanted to emphasize that is all.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
I get that, but there are some pretty basic values
And even if those are not enough. I am willing to bet he make a lot more $ working for the Kings. Common sense says you don’t kick your main sponsor or employer.
He is unprofessional at best and at worst extremely unethical
There is no loyalty to the Kings when he does this type of attack. There is only downside. Napear has a professional responsibility to not do damage to the team he works for and he is causing damage. People listen to that show and if he trashes them then fewer people are likely to buy tickets, more people are going to boo at games, and it just creates a negative dynamic. .
You are ignoring that angle. There is no confusion here. I get it. Probably more than you think. You are Napear’s buddy or want to be his buddy.
He shouldn't have loyalty to the Kings on his radio show
granted i hate the damn show but it would be horrible if he was required to have a Loyalty Oath where he couldn’t talk give his own opinions about his other employer who happens to be a sports team when in fact he is paid to give his opinion on said sports team. That would be awful.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
He should be fired from one then or made to choose
He is damaging his employer and that is where the line should be drawn.
well thats for them to decide
i would bet money that there is a clause in his contract with the Maloofs regarding what his fiduciary duty is with the organization.
i must say though, go nuts if you want to write a letter and what not, but you know that if the Kings did fire him then he still has his 1140 job and is able to paint himself the victim of a player being coddled by the organization and crying to fire a frickin disk jockey
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
That's why I wish 1140 fired him.
It’s not his PBP that I care about. It’s his dumbshit radio show.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Feb 9, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I have a problem with Napear
because I am forced to listen to him while I watch the game. I don’t have to listen to him on the radio and I choose not to. He is however, creating an intentional stir when he blasts the same players he praises on the telecasts. That is wrong.
As for your criticism of Kevin Martin. Kevin is a truly efficient scorer who is coming off surgery. Two months of not playing. All players struggle from time to time. Kevin’s struggles just happen to come at an oppurtune time for those such as yourself and Napear, who have an agenda to clear his contract, and land some mythical player that is going to take the Kings to the playoffs. I have watched a lot of Kings basketball over the years, and I fail to see how you can say that Kevin does everything but score on a below average level. We must not be seeing the same Kevin Martin. I’d agree he may not be great at everything a la Dwayne Wade, but I don’t see a lot of folks calling Kevin a superstar.
...
he has been an AMAZING FT shooter his whole life but immediately becomes AVERAGE as soon as trade talks arise
Or becomes average as soon as…he tries to play after breaking his wrist and not being able to shoot for weeks. “C’mon, man!”
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 9, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you Tom
Well said, and it needed to be said.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
I know which side I'm on.
Team CoCo. Also, Team Speedracer.

Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
by Aykis16 on Feb 9, 2010 12:29 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
wait a minute, does this mean the Kings are trying to replace Martin with Peaches?
John Wall here we come!
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Grant is trying to run Kevin out of town.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Which is probably a real good thing that Geoff Petrie is the guy making these decisions. LOL
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm with KeMa
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Feb 9, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
KeMA
The soft version of Kevin Martin.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Feb 9, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It's a bit unfortunate that Grant Napear caused this didn't it?
Normally, I would hope that something important and useful would cause a rant as good as this. But, maybe the rant is really about SpeedRacer….
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I think it's great.
I see Martin getting mad and going on a scoring rampage.
And, Napear’s job is to stir interest…voila!
Great job, Zill. This one got jets!
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
Left I understand what you're saying
But I sincerely hope that K-Mart is not influenced or motivated to prove Napear wrong. That bodes so poorly for Kevin’s future (with so much of it left).
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I know what you're saying,
and I agree in general. However, right now I think a little anger is a good snap-out-of-it.
So…here’s what I want to see. Martin takes a pass from Evans and goes hard to the rim. And one. Points at Napear all the way up the floor. Goes for 30+.
Normally, I hate that kind of shtick. Not right now.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
and I agree in general. However, right now I think a little anger is a good snap-out-of-it.
I would somewhat agree with this, although I would like to think his anger would be based on his and the team’s performance as of late.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
Grant Napear is not important. The Kings, and Kevin Martin’s, poor play is.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Feb 9, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Do you see anything that indicates
“the team’s performance as of late” is making them angry enough?
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
There is no way to answer that.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm with ya
especially if he’s doing the pointing with his middle finger.
"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." - Cardinal Richelieu
Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask this but
On Friday, what if Martin was positive in his statements after the game? What if he said there was no problem and things were great. I get the feeling that some would come out and say he is “mentally weak” because he doesn’t care about wins and losses, he just goes about his business as happy as a clam.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
Sounds like someone is volunteering to call Grant's show today
and get the answer straight from the Peaches’ mouth.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 9, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
oh god no
Trust me, if you think my typing is bad you should hear me actually use my voice when discussing sports. The only medium I use for sports stuff is the internet so it’s alot of reading and very little talking so when I finally do it I mix up names like crazy. Basically i sound like a moron. I have a friend with a Podcast and he has asked me to join but flat out terrified i would come off like a moron.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
You'd do fine.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It's not going to be on because the Kings play at 430 ASSN.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
plus he would just flat out deny it
it should be noted that after Napear ripped him yesterday they went to commercial break and then he went on to say it’s definitely not all Kevin’s fault and it’s the team right now that is struggling. Basically he has already covered his bases and i wouldn’t recommend anyone trying to show him up on his show.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
Are you kidding me?! You can't be serious!
Can you believe what you’re hearing?! I mean, give me a break!………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
by left hand on Feb 9, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Well done.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
a very ironic statement
You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t.
by Pollard4LIfe on Feb 9, 2010 2:20 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
well, what's he supposed to do, write Peaches a personal letter?
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
After the last set of emails...
…I’m not sure that’s possible.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Feb 9, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This reminds me: Ziller has Peaches' email!
It would be awesome if he accidentally let it slip
www.mancancook.net
With misleading Link titles
“Is everyone else an idiot? Are you always right? Well here’s a product for you!”
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
by Aykis16 on Feb 9, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh that's why TZ's an insomniac.
TZ, you’ve been lying to me for nearly 2 years! I want blood!
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Ironic?
How so?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
i would argue that it's ironic if he was writing about peaches out of the blue for no reason other than to call him an idiot
or mentally soft
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
That's what didn't make sense to me
Wouldn’t it be more of an apples to apples comparison if TZ was doing this to get back at Napear for some perceived slight?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
I would agree
While it might appear upfront like TZ could be evening some score it really doesn’t hold.. It isn’t like Grant has gone out and called TZ soft for not doing his blog with a broken arm or some such.
I'll admit that it's a bit of a stretch, but...
Napear gave Ziller some sass in that email interview a while back. I don’t think Ziller ever got over it and has used this blog as a vehicle for pure and unadulterated revenge.To be honest, I never knew that Kevin Martin publicly called out Napear.
Napear has dug his own hole
He got called out after saying the KMart was soft for not playing when he had a broken wrist. If he had apologized for that comment it might have been fine, but he has stuck on his gig of being down on Kevin. I think that bothers a lot of people who read these posts.
I don’t know that TZ had to get even with Napear. He kind of dug his own hole during that interview. He definitely proved TZ’s point for him. His whole angry and nasty routine was justice in and of itself.
By the way, assuming this is the pot calling the kettle black
That doesn’t mean it’s wrong. It would just mean TZ is being a hypocrit but it doesn’t mean he’s wrong at all.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
It would only be ironic
If Ziller were accusing Napear of saying something he didn’t actually say.
StR Token Female
by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 9, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
When has Grant called me on anything publicly?
A bit different, bro. I’m calling out some B.S., not creating a crapstorm out of thin air to sully Napear.
the crapstorm is based on substance
A lot of people were dissatisfied with Kevin Martin’s play against Phoenix, not just Napear. Martin appears lost out there on the court. I wouldn’t go so far as calling him mentally weak, but his troubles are definitely mental rather than phyiscal.
problem with this
I wouldn’t go so far as calling him mentally weak, but his troubles are definitely mental rather than phyiscal.
Even though a lot of people were dissasfied wtih his play against Phoenix, I just don’t understand how this makes it okay to call Kevin Martin mentally weak (i didn’t hear it but it sounds like he was practically screaming it, not just saying it). Nd when you say mental, do you mean as in “not sure how to trust his body after injury” “having a hard time figuring out his role now” or just “mentally weak” and “will never be able to handle not being top dog” because that’s what Napear was saying.
I am frustated as hell too with Martin, I just don’t see how this type of crap is okay. It’s taking reasonable concerns and Kevin Martin and spinning it to make him look like a pansy emo kid crying in his room.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
We have had how many players slump?
Why isn’t Napear calling each of them out, but instead focuses on the guy coming off of the injury?
I agree with you, by and large.
But I still can’t pass this up, based on your handle:

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Make it your avatar.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
A bit different, bro. I’m calling out some B.S., not creating a crapstorm out of thin air to sully Napear.
Nah, you’re just doing this to make yourself more popular. Because, like, knowing every major blogger in the blogosphere already isn’t enough of you.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
for you^
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
The Napear-Butterfly Effect...or "If a Napear falls in a forest...does anyone care?"
Wouldn’t it be fantastic if Kevin actually got fired up over this and ceased with the front of the rim nonsense that he has been tossing up since coming back from his injury? Napear is a knob…but what if his evil was used for good? He is yin of bitterness to the yang of K-Mart’s improved scoring touch….In some bizarre way his crappy, tainted comments would lead to our general happiness….
I will now retire back to the compound….practice some Bikram yoga…..and meditate on inner peace…Screw it….after reading all of these posts my day is shot and I need a beer.
Sometimes we over analyze . . .
14-18 with Martin out. 2-18 with Martin.
I’m sure there will be a million posts breaking down the strength of schedule and home v road games etc etc, but there is no graph you can break out to change those numbers.
by Mark Olberding on Feb 9, 2010 2:55 PM PST via mobile reply actions
agreed
Napear isn’t turning fans against Kevin Martin. It’s the W/L record that’s turning fans (Napear included) against Kevin Martin.
That's largely true
But the win/loss record isn’t being a douche about it.
by Charlieb on Feb 9, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
douchebaggery = ratings
that’s why Rush Limbaugh and Howard Stern make all that money. Don’t hate the playa, hate the game.
This is true
It explains a lot of Napear’s popularity – he appeals to the lowest common denominator. Which is fine.
But that doesn’t mean he can’t be called out on his douchebaggery.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
This.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I can and do hate both.
I’d elaborate, but you used the word “douchebaggery”, so you’re back on my good side.
I hate the playa AND the game.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
So if you know all the arguments against why this is valid why post this?
This has been rehashed and rehashed.
I'm willing to bet that if Martin was still gone
we’d still be 2-18 in those games
www.mancancook.net
Or that we might be better than 14-18 if he'd been playing
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
It does matter, though.
This took forever to do, but…
Current W/L% of teams we played with Martin: .536 (.517 at home, .546 on the road)
Current W/L% of teams we played without Martin: .481 (.476 at home, .489 on the road)
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 9, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
Additionally
When Kevin came back, the team had lost a lot of that magic they had during the early part of the season. So it wasn’t like he came back to a team that was firing on all cylinders.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
also add in
Jason Thompson falling off the face of the Earth …… see, not all Martin!
Jason Thompson has done more to hurt this team right now than Kevin Martin has, and that’s the truth. and both WILL get better. Book it.
by what_the_crap on Feb 9, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
just looking
at the record would be UNDER analyzing.
by what_the_crap on Feb 9, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Kevin played mostly road games.
Road games we probably would not have won anyway. Cause is not effect.
Instead of Douch Bag, I heard a guy call someone else.....
a douch nozzle….that seems so much more powerful as an insult…
I agree - that is a highly underrated douche insult
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
There is no getting around the record
Wins and loses are the only valid argument.
by Mark Olberding on Feb 9, 2010 3:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I really hope you're not the real Mark Olberding.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Mmmm...no
Sorry.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Brook Lopez must be the crappiest player ever than.
New Jersey should ship his ass out.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Devin Harris too
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Ruh-TARD'


Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Feb 9, 2010 3:46 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
what the hell
Why does Sims get to make political cheap shots and I can’t? C’mon!
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
There is a difference
This was a cheap shot at Napear. Making it about Napear and basketball which is relevant here.
i am referring to the general rule not to bring politics in here, nothing about Napear
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
It's only a general rule because there are Republicans in the midst.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
There is nothing inherently political about this completely tasteless low-quality photoshop.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
I agree with Wally
If I posted, say, this…everyone would probably freak out. If we’re saying it’s okay to make fun of a person without making any commentary about politics, that opens up a whole other can of worms. Doesn’t it just make more sense to keep anything having to do with anyone involved in politics out of the discussion, even when it’s being used to make fun of Grant Napear? It’s not like he’s difficult to make fun of on his own…
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 9, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
And yes, I know I DID post the picture
but that was part of the point.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 9, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Well to be honest i am just trying to lobby for the ability to take political cheap shots simply because i like doing it. It’s not so much a “How could you do this Sims” thing but more of a “Can I please join you Sims” thing
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
Well yeah
Me too. I’m okay with making fun of the people involved, but if we’re deciding it’s okay to make fun of the person as long as you don’t make fun of the political viewpoint, that means I shouldn’t have any problems posting my picture.

When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 9, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
That is SOOOOOOO obvious it is Obama.
I mean, jeesh, it could only be 1 or 2 billion people in the world.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm pretty sure that's Donkey from Shrek.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
The body you idiot.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Gross
Why you checking out his body pookey?
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
i actually met obama on accident while he was campaigning
incredibly skinny guy
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
It's a fine line, admittedly.
I’m sure how people react will be largely based on things having nothing to do with basketball.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
That's a funny picture actualy PTBNL.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Well it looks pretty feminine to me
so yeah maybe it is Peaches
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
I figured you were giving yourself an out
For the inevitable lawsuit. ;)
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
This is still ful lof win.
Put it on a teleprompter and I will still laugh.
Not in here they aren't.
I merely used a photo from the news. I made no political commentary.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
As Jerry likes to say....
every bad team has a leading scorer. If Brooke Lopez was that good, New Jersey wouldn’t have 4 wins. He gets 19pts and 9reb on a bad team….put him on Dallas and he is getting 14 and 8. Kevin has averaged 25 pts on horrible teams. Put him on a playoff team and he is the 3rd option.
so if kevin martin was on dallas he would get like what 18-20 points? Is that crappy? Hell is Brook Lopez getting 14 and 8 even crappy?
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
That is why almost every team is interested in him.
Because he just isn’t that good. LOL. You should read Aykis’s rundown on all the trade stuff.
Man Michael Jordan must have been a really bad player to start his career
It took the Bulls THREE whole seasons to get a winning record with him. And they got worse from his rookie to sophomore year.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Learn to use the reply button por favor
And your logic doesn’t make much sense. Dwayne Wade was the leading scorer on a team that won 15 games. David Robinson played on a team that won 20 games. Kobe Bryant was on a team that won 34 games. And these events happened well into their careers.
Obviously, we can’t put Kevin Martin in that category of player – but surely you can see how evaluating players strictly on wins and losses might reveal inaccurate data?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Get rid of all of them.
NaPG.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Not a Pookey Guru?
lol
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 9, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Hopefully. God help us all if they were.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Hopefully they would be skinnier than I.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Again I point to the record....
With Tyreke being the Alpha Dog 14-18
Kevin trying to be the Alpha Dog 2-18.
Sometimes you can tell who is a winner and who is a loser by nothing more then just seeing how the carry themselves…
Tyreke = winner
Kevin = the opposite of winner
Would you say
That Tyreke is the best player on a 16-34 team?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Sometimes records are misleading.
It is not Tyreke Evans’ fault that he is stuck in the backcourt with a skinny loser like Kevin Martin.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I would!
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 9, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Well I am going to point to the f*ing door
Get out. Your opinion has no value. You are a troll.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
Question -
Is the increcible drop off in JT’s rebounding numbers Martin’s fault? Because JT was rebounding at a much better rate when Martin was injured.
Is the fact that the schedule had an opponent’s winning percentage of .440 while Martin was out versus a .590 percentage while he has been playing Martin’s fault?
Is the fact that the Kings dropped 8 of 10 just prior to Martin’s return Martin’s fault?
I do not dispute that Kevin Martin is not proving to be the cure, but I also believe that he is certainly not the cause. Simply, there are 12-13 guys on this squad that lack Martin’s talent and productivity. To lay their shortcomings at his feet is foolish, in my opinion.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Feb 9, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Wow
Those winning percentage statistics are staggering. I’ll rec that for the insight, and I’d like to add that the difference between .440 opponents, and .590 opponents for a sub .500 team like the Kings is gigantic.
And before I confuse anyone,
this goes back to my “true winning percentage” conversation, where you factor in the home or road record of the opponent, depending on whether you are playing them at home or on the road.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
I'm confused.
Are you saying that the Kings are playing much tougher teams with Kevin than they were without him?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
OK, you just saved me a half hour's work
Is the fact that the schedule had an opponent’s winning percentage of .440 while Martin was out versus a .590 percentage while he has been playing Martin’s fault?
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Kevin on a playoff team....
would score 16 to 17 a game.
And you know this how?
Right now other teams can focus their sole attention on Martin. That’s all you’ve had to worry from the Kings for the past 2 years. Put him on a playoff team with a guy like Nowitzki and Kidd, and he could be the leading scorer on that team.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Napear calls it like it is
I’ve always wondered why this site doesn’t get more mention, then I just read this article by the EDITOR. Wow.
First, if you don’t think Martin is mentally soft than your head is in the clouds. Who cares if he worked his a** off during the offseason and is a nice guy? Listening/reading to his comments lately about trade rumors and the state of the team, it’s obvious his head is not in the right place. His lack of energy and leadership is pathetic for someone who is supposed to be one of the veterans and go to guys.
Second, using your site to publish articles like this in order to bash a local radio/tv guy like Napear is pathetic. Yeah, Grant is a pompous and loud, like many talk show hosts, but consistently dragging his name through the mud on this site is just tiresome and childish. Show some originality and maturity. Shouldn’t you be ashamed for letting him get under your skin like this and reacting with amateur articles? Plus, Grant is actually one of the better commentators out there anyway and knows what he’s talking about.
Also, Grant isn’t the only local guy to call out Martin. Koz is basically questioning Martin’s effectivenss everyday on his show. Martin’s nice guy act has worn off and it’s time to step up. All stars do more than shoot, they vocalize leadership, play hard on defense, and make others around him better. All stars don’t use injuries as an excuse. All stars don’t use trade rumors as an excuse. All stars shut up, assume a tenacious attitude, and do their job. Martin obviously isn’t an all-star, nor is the editor of this site.
by chrysty on Feb 9, 2010 4:01 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Hoping for a nice Valentine's Day gift Mrs. Napear?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
by otis29 on Feb 9, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well played.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I bet it'll be from the Diamond and Gold Vault.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
by Aykis16 on Feb 9, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Goddamn you!
How dare you make me rec that?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
OOOOHHHH BOYYYYYY!
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
If you don't like the Diamond and Gold Vault, you don't like Valentines Day or your sex life!
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I was going to make a joke about Mrs. Napear having no sex life
But I don’t have a beef with her. Just her husband.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
LOL Aykis.
Good point. Although, chrysty is rapidly changing my mind on that one.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It's pronounced, "Christ, WHY?"
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Feb 9, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Funny I was just asking him that.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I hope you're not related to Mr. Napear.
Because then you MIGHT realize how inaccurate your statement is.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Enlighten me
Please tell me how inaccurate I am instead of your attempts at being funny.
I beg your pardon?
I was not attempting anything.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Plus, Grant is actually one of the better commentators out there anyway and knows what he’s talking about.
This made me LOLIRLWTF?
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Get NBA league pass
and listen to the majority of commentators out there. It’s frightening.
So, we have one of the better-tasting turds in the punch bowl?
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Feb 9, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The best-tasting burger at Applebee's?
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 9, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Isn't that the perfect match for Peaches?
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Hmm...
it’s obvious his head is not in the right place
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this out. He’s obviously in a slump right now. It happens to the best of ‘em. And because of it Kevin’s been booed at home, so he’s rightfully a little angry.
using your site to publish articles like this in order to bash a local radio/tv guy like Napear is pathetic
But using your radio show to bash a local player like Kevin is okay?
All stars don’t use injuries as an excuse.
So Kobe Bryant shouldn’t use his variety of injuries as an excuse?
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Feb 9, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
He shoots
He scores. Almost makes me want to go on PASPN and trade you Durant… Darn, the deadline passed.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
There's a loophole where trades are still allowed
Go look, I made one with Utah to test it out
www.mancancook.net
Interesting
What’s the loophole? Can only trade players that don’t matter?
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
LOL
Paspn can be stupid some times.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I said Paspn could be stupid
Not me.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
LOL
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Aykis meet Wall; Wall meet Aykis.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I prefer Favors.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
by Aykis16 on Feb 9, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm with Pookey on this one
I respect Wall as a great player and would join in on the celebrations if we drafted him, but I just think Favors is the guy that could solve our problems. Super athletic (we don’t really have that type of guy), very efficient scorer, and plays good interior defense.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
If we had 5 John Wall's
I’d be ecstatic.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
sorry but i think cloning for sports purposes is a crime against nature
You sir are not an all star
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
My goal was to always be the Rod Strickland of StR.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yes.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I giggled.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
GOL
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
IT SUCKS I HATE IT
They desperately need to get more wheels with more hamsters to speed that badboy up.
I couldn’t even set my lineup today – stupid site didn’t show any of my players in the dropdown menus.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
I emailed the commish about that
i lost a game against a team with no GM because i couldn’t set my lineups. yet somehow all his lineups got set with the default lineups it picks for you and I lost. I was pissed.
www.mancancook.net
The no lineups would be because of the Bye Week.
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Ah, thanks
IT STILL SUCKS I STILL HATE IT
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Kobe
is playing through two fractured fingers, a sprained ankle, and back spasms! He has been playing and finally sat out recently. Nice try.
And yes, if letting some boos affect you, than you’re mentally soft. Thanks for establishing that.
But he hasn't been playing well
He’s percentages have been way down and people have been saying for a long time that he needs to rest his body and let himself heal
www.mancancook.net
He's selfish!
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
So you're a Lakers fan AND Napear's wife. Perfect.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
No one is going to get this:

“I’ll leave when I’m ready.”
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Pic fail.
Link to it.
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That might be the point, I fear.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If you post it
You can see it for a little bit, but nobody else can if its blocked. Weird I know.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
TWSS
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
bro
I’m a huge Kings fan, but don’t like Martin. Yeah, Grant’s a prick, but I don’t mind him that much.
Don't call me bro.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I find it embarrassing as a former resident of California that Prop 8 passed.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That's probably a step beyond the limits of the "no politics" rule
We have differing opinions, but I’m not interested in having a political argument.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 9, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
i feel you guys
but i think Napear is more honest and on point than he is a prick. He doesn’t play to the local audience, doesn’t sugar coat issues, and doesn’t put up with idiotic listeners/fans.
i have a problem with him having an agenda though
i still don’t see how it was okay for him to call Martin soft earlier this year when he had a broken wrist.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
you're right Wally
i think Grant jumped the gun on that one and didn’t have the facts before he opened his mouth
He speaks his mind
But Peaches speaks out of both sides of his mouth, I think his play by play is good, but think his talks show is proof how an unintelligent guy can get ratings by being inflammatory versus being insightful.
Chrysty
Show some originality and maturity
You get that this is a sports blog, right?
Koz is basically questioning Martin’s effectivenss
I question Martin’s effectiveness, too. But I’m not calling him mentally soft and an embarrassment.
You do get that Martin had surgery on his WRIST, right? And that he played 5 games before his injury? And that he’s playing for a new coach under a new system with new players, right?
Call it what it is, a slump. Anyone calling it anything else must either be able to read Martin’s mind or is willing to parse a very few words to death to find a meaning to suit an agenda.
StR Token Female
by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 9, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
All hail LPA!
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I get it, i get it
It just seems everytime I check this site out I see something about Napear. To me, it’s old and not original.
I hate the slump excuse. Find a way to get involved in the game if your shot isn’t falling. But Martin can’t defend, can’t pass, and isn’t a vocal leader. So what good is he if he’s in a “slump”?
There is a difference between saying someone is just a scorer and just flat out saying they suck
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
Who said Martin sucks?
Martin can be a good scorer. But he’s one dimensional. He can be a great fit for a number of teams, but this team desperately needs some leadership, some defense, and some balls.
so why is it all on Kevin for this team get leadership, defense, and "some balls"?
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
He's not much good honestly
That’s why it’s imperative to get him right as quickly as possible, and that means giving him minutes.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
Teams focus their attention on Martin?
If you took your Martin colored glasses off for a second and paid attention when watching a game, it would be obvious to you that Tyreke is the focus of the opposing teams scountin report.
Last I checked
Tyreke wasn’t on the Kings the last two years when Martin was the sole scorer. Did you read my post?
Father of the "Natt this!" movement, Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order, and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Good grief
Mike Tyson could probably figure out the reply button quicker.
"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty
I doubt the real Mark Olberding was that dumb.
It’s really hard to imagine.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
The Master and Margherita
I don’t think the issue here is Grant’s asshole radio personality. Because I’ve never really been bothered by it. I’ve always felt that the Rise Guys and Jim Kozimor’s and Carmichael Dave’s, for all their affability, have a tendency to be entirely too forgiving of callers who genuinely didn’t deserve to be forgiven. I think the issue with Napear is that Grant can’t not make himself the story. Look at the most publicized media flare-ups in Sacramento in the past 5-10 years and, in some form or another, they’ve all involved Grant. He feuded with McNeil. He feuded with Voisin. He’s feuding with Amick. And those feuds weren’t about anything other than a pissing contect between himself and others as to who is/was the most important /dominant media figure in a microscopic media market. I mean Grant isn’t exactly Mike and the Mad Dog, hell, he isn’t exactly Mike and Mike. And that, to me, is irritating. Because when you have a person perpetually starting skirmishes with folks solely for the sake of starting skirmishes it’s difficult to take him seriously if/when he’s stating something he objectively believes. Do I know for a fact that his motivation for calling out Martin isn’t personal? No. But if the past is prologue it’s certainly within the realm of not just possibility, but proability.
Look Jerry Reynolds has never not been excessively honest. Quite frankly I think he’s more prone to honesty than anyone in town, that he doesn’t deliver it with the same invective doesn’t make it any less “telling it like it is.”
And in regards to this business of Grant being from New York City and he being brash consequently, Grant is from Long Island, not the Burroughs, that’s equivalent to someone from Fairfield claming they’re from the Bay Area.
by rbiegler on Feb 9, 2010 4:11 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
This is why quality beats all hell out of quantity.
Nice to see you, rb.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
rbiegler
Most efficient StR user. The Kevin Martin of StR in fact.
Pookey is the Andres Nocioni.
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by Aykis16 on Feb 9, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sigh.
I totally have earned that too. I’ve even been benched a few times.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh there was a bench under you..doh!
Judgment day is coming!
by Widowwolf on Feb 9, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Mr. Ziller I would just like to point out
You sir are not an all star!
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
Kevin Martin > Grant Napear
Kevin Martin is a champ. I had a very very similar surgery on my wrist as Kevin Martin at roughly the same time as him (Kevins was Nov. 9th and mine was Nov. 13th, both broke the scaphoid/navicular and both had fixation with a surgical screw, the only difference was i had a vascularized bone graft in mine) and the fact that he is back so soon blows my mind. I am not able to articulate my wrist beyond straight and it has been nearly 3 months. This is very telling of how hard Kevin worked to recover by strictly adhering to his doctors orders and working at physical therapy even though it was killing him to be back in playing. Before the surgery I played quite a bit with the bone broken and, while able to still dribble and shoot and make all the necessary movements to play, when it got hit wrong it was an absolute explosion of pain that instantly made me rip my hand away instinctively. For him to question Martin’s resolve is absurd and completely indicative of his ignorance. For him to not apologize for his words after the fact came out that he actually did have a broken wrist speaks volumes about his character.
On top of this, how can anyone expect Martin to come back from an injury that kept him sidelined for so long and expect him to instantly be able to win games with clutch performance? Even if he hadn’t been injured, Tyreke has been the man with the ball in his hands that creates at the ends of games with the game on the line. Do you ever see the Cavs running an end game situation like that through Mo Williams? Do you see the L*kers running their offense at the end of games through Ron-Ron? Hell no! They run through LeBron and Kobe because they are their go to guys. They are used to the pressure and are the most practiced on their teams in these situations. These guys either take the shot or kick it out to an open shooter, but they have experience in making those decisions. When Tyreke tried to take the game over on the last possession of regulation against the Cavs he didnt even get a shot off. Same with the game against L.A. but then against Denver he made an amazing play because he had already been in this situation before and was getting more comfortable. You just cannot realistically expect Martin, while in a slump no less, to win that Denver game for us. Sure he has done it in the past, but this is a new season and this was his first time, if I remember correctly, taking a game winner this season. That being said, out of that lineup on the floor there isn’t anyone that i would rather have running that set.
Martin is a hard working man that has incredible character and is the perfect #2 for any team because he is so supportive of his team mates and humble enough to go out every night and quietly do exactly what the coaches ask him to. I have no doubt in my mind that if tonight, Westphal told Martin he was guarding David Lee and he needed to get a stop every time and not to worry about scoring, Kevin would come out and give 100% to this team to stop Lee. If we trade him because we need different pieces and Martin is how we get them, so be it. I for one, however, would be more than happy if we could keep this guy for the rest of his career.
by Merickel on Feb 9, 2010 4:53 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
My insight into KHTK
I used to intern at KHTK from August 2003 until late Nov/early Dec 2004. I worked from 4-9pm during Grant’s show and the Kozimor Showgram/Kings talk. I started working when Grant was a solo host and was there during co-host auditions and when Lamb came aboard.
Grant and Koz were both polite and friendly to the interns, but never remembered my name. I listen to KHTK and know for a fact that Koz still does not know intern’s names. On the other hand Jason Ross and Carmichale Dave take the time to talk to the help and build a relationship. Jason Ross is probably the nicest human being alive and recognized me over a year later at a Monarch’s game.
My internship was terminated when I hung up on a caller that turned out to be Greg Ostertag. He called on the listener line and wanted to talk to Grant. My final comment to him was, “If this is the real Ostertag you may want to mix in a salad and get in shape.” In my defense there were many people that call the listener line pretending to be someone they are not and I did not believe it was Ostertag.
Ostertag approached Grant and after some investigation they found out I had made the comments. Grant did not even have the courage to talk to me himself he had his toady Sean Cunnigham let me go on his behalf. I forgive Sean now since he was a producer for Sportsline for a time and then was pushed out under somewhat unfair circumstances. I also found it comical when Grant’s buddy from the bay area later made a comment about “brain-dead carribean hitters” that Grant leapt to his defense and said people should not be fired for their comments.
One thing I know about Grant is he likes to have heated topics and is happy to have big back-and-forths with callers. He chastised me once for hanging up on a caller when they were ripping on each other. I would not be surprised, though, if this was a gutless attempt to get back at Kevin and Amick.
That Ostertag story is pretty hilarious.
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HAHAHA that was you???
I interned there a year or so later. They made sure to tell me that story to make sure I didn’t hang up on anyone.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 9, 2010 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, and Grant didn't give a crap about the interns while I was there
He’s a douche.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
by Player To Be Named Later on Feb 9, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah.
I am still friendly with Carmichael Dave, John Dickinson, and Jason Ross.
by mayfieldcol on Feb 10, 2010 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
Great
That means you guys have the connections to get the “missing” Kevin Martin interview tape from Friday. Put those strings to good use.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 10, 2010 12:49 AM PST up reply actions
I could go on and on for days
about the man formally known as Peaches. The only thing worth saying though is that he is a douche bagel.
Tommy Kelly's ass won us that game against Denver!

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