Kings at Knicks- View From Section 413, Madison Square Garden
I am a native Sacramentan in school in New York, and was lucky enough to go to the game tonight. I was so pumped by tonight's win that I decided to enter the foray of FanPosts here on STR. While I am an avid reader, and have been a member for quite a while, I rarely post. One of the things I really enjoy is reading these recaps from people who were actually at the game, and considering I saw a total of about 7 Kings jerseys the whole game, I figured it was on me to give everyone a few thoughts from watching live.
To set the scene:
The story of this game was Omri Casspi. The Knicks capitalized on Omri's popularity to make this game Jewish heritage night, and the New York Jewish community, which is very substantial, was out in full force. The game began with singing HaTikvah, the Israeli national anthem. I had my Israeli flag with me, but I was far from the only one as there seemed to be dozens throughout the arena. In fact, there seemed to be more Omri fans there than Knicks fans, and at many times throughout the game the chants for "Let's Go Omri!" drowned out the "Let's Go Knicks!" chants. It was an incredible thing to see... and after the game he was mobbed at the tunnel by a sea of Israelis. He had a great game, so congratulations to him.
I'm not sure how much of this drowning out was due to the lack of energy of the Knicks fans (I was the only one who cheered at all in my section for most of the game); in fact, at the end of the game, I was approached by tourists from Australia who said that they came to watch American sports and planned on rooting for the Knicks, but were shocked by the fans' lack of enthusiasm and ended up rooting for the Kings instead. Glad to recruit some fans from down under!
Now, a few thoughts on the game itself:
I felt that this was a game that was much closer than it should have been, and I felt that the fact that the Kings were down 15 and that the game went into ovetime at all was much more due to the Kings' sloppy play than to the Knicks playing well. The turnovers were god-awful at times; the turnover where Tyreke threw to nobody and the ball skidded to the backcourt probably should have cost us the game; the Kings dodged a bullet there. There was also an idiotic turnover on an inbounds pass with 3 seconds left in the first quarter that missed everyone. Overall, there were countless unforced turnovers, and the Kings got burned on them for much of the game, and were probably lucky that they didn't end up costing them the game.
Interesting call on the starting lineup- no Kevin and no JT. Interestingly enough, even though Hawes started, he only played 6 minutes. He's been playing much better these days, so this seemed a bit strange to me. In addition, I felt that Kevin did not get enough touches until overtime. More on this later. Beno was laregly ineffective, although Donte played well. I think this experimental lineup will likely not return.
The interior defense- I was embarassed to watch the play inside at times. Wilson Chandler dominated (and I mean career-high-dominated) the inside in the first quarter. This caused the Kings to collapse more when the ball got into the paint- which left shooters wide open. David Lee also got to the basket at will... he missed some easy inside shots, or this could have been a lot uglier. I felt that this area actually improved as the game went on, and we locked down over the last few minutes of the fourth, although we were definitely aided by the Knicks missing some very makeable shots down the stretch. Which leads me to my next point, which is...
Rebounding. Clutch rebounds won us this game. Donte and Tyreke came through with some huge defensive rebounds over a few Knicks in the closing minutes of regulation and overtime. The offensive rebounds at the end also proved decisive.
Free throws almost killed the Kings in this game. They missed their first four freebies, and kept missing throughout. Thank God for Tyreke's clutch free-throw shooting, and in general, Tyreke's clutch play. There was a late stretch of the fourth quarter where Tyreke put the team on his shoulders and singlehandedly took over the game. People will probably forget that tomorrow because in overtime, it was Kevin Martin that took over. I'm sure nobody in the world was happier than he was when he nailed that three from the corner: naysayers be damned. For the record, through the end of regulation I was certain I was going to be writing tonight about how Westphal should have gotten Martin more touches... clearly, he got my memo, and it paid off. It's nice to know that we have not one, but two backcourt players who can carry the team for a stretch; I can't wait until that combo starts jelling.
Omri- awesome first quarter. I think that the rush of having so many people chanting his name got to him, as his hot shooting was all that kept the Kings in the game in the first quarter. He got cocky with his shot after hitting early open shots, and began to force his shot and it didn't work. I think Omri is very skilled, but he needs to continue to work on his decision making. He played a very good all-around game though.
Jason Thompson. An enigma. Early in the third quarter, he was hitting jumper after jumper. There were even a few with a hand in his face that were of the no no no... yes! variety. Then, he got cocky, and started forcing jumpers, which led to a big Knicks run which extended the Knicks lead. When JT is playing well, it's beautiful to see; when he's not, he makes you want to pull your hair out with frustration, which seemed like exactly what he was doing after some of those fouls.
Donte- the clutch boards were great to see, and he seemed very comfortable in the offense, hitting open threes and posting up with equal ease. I feel like if he ever gets consistent, he can be very, very good: the skills are there.
In the end though, a win is a win, no matter how ugly it was. I was very excited to see a Kings comeback (and the first overtime game I've ever seen!). I hope all of you at home enjoyed it as much as I did.
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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Welcome Sam
I’m glad you enjoyed the game, especially cheering for the road team. Great recap, rec’d
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Nice recap SamYam.
Good stuff. I’m really glad we got the perspective of someone in MSG on such a historic night for the Jewish community of New York.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Nevermind.
I’m sending off an email to you right now.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Glad you enjoyed the game Sam. Thanks for the recap. I'm sure it was a great deal of fun to be there.
We have Aussie fans already. (There are at least 3 I know of for sure on the site.) But having 2 more is hardly a bad thing.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Great recap. Like hearing about the Omri stuff on your end.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
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Good recap. I would only add that Brockman coming in and grabbing every ball within a huge radius was a great rebound plus as well.
Good to know that Omri has so many fans. Pretty savvy of the Knicks to make some extra $ off of our player like that.
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That wasn't a joke either.
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Maybe I'm a pessimist
But I think Omri is going to bolt to NY the moment he becomes a free agent.
Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!
Thanks a lot
Hadn’t even thought of that, now I have even more to worry about.
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by Neil Manich on Feb 10, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Well,
The Kings have him locked up (at their option) through the end of the 2014 season, but if you like to worry that far ahead of time, go for it.
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I always find it amusing that people who know the least about something tend to make the boldest statements of doom.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
How is that a bold statement of doom?
I just said I think it’ll happen. Like a hunch. And losing Omri is in no way, shape, or form any sort of doom. Personally, I’d like to see him in NY. He’d be such a crazy celebrity there – the most popular Knick in decades. It’d be good for the league, good for the Knicks, and fun to see (IMO – my bold, bold opinion).
Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!
Your opinion shows no real astute level as to how the current CBA works (and it isn't likely to become easier to switch teams in the next CBA either).
You do realize that the Kings like Omri and play him because he’s a good basketball player. Right? Novelty means shit if you can’t suit up.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
this has very little to do with what you guys are talking about
but your comment here pookey sums up how i actually feel about Rubio. I don’t see how he is this huge mega bucks box office smash for the Kings nomatter what, even if they he ended up being a bust.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
well, they could have locked him up already
but whenever you have a chance to draft Jordan Hill, you just can’t pass up on that opportunity
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Casspi thinks the Jewish community is taking all his time now?
Living in NY or LA – wowwwww
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Feb 11, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
The flip side is that NY might pay way more than his worth to have him
(that is, if Isiah hadn’t emptied the cupboard)
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Feb 11, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
Great recap
Rec’d.
I disagree with one thing:
the turnover where Tyreke threw to nobody and the ball skidded to the backcourt probably should have cost us the game
He threw it right to Omri; Omri just flat-out whiffed it. He thought there was someone behind him.
When life gives you lemons, just say "f--- the lemons" and bail
Omri called for the ball too.
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An ugly win?!
Are you kidding? Every win is a thing of beauty right now.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Amen.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I wasn't able to catch the game
…but how did Martin look? I know he ended up with 17, but half of that damage was done in OT. How did he look during regulation play?
he didnt get very many touches at all
and those that he did they defended nicely. then, in the 4th quarter, when tyreke began to take over, this forced the knicks to collapse on him, leaving kevin open for all those shots in OT. this is exactly why kevin and tyreke are built to play with each other
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Interior Defense
The difference came when the Kings started playing a zone defense. It worked much better, and we should do that a lot more often when other teams’ bigs are killing us inside. I’m sure that Westphal didn’t go to it earlier is because the Knicks take so many threes, and a zone doesn’t defend those well. But once Harrington went cold from outside (thanks, Ime!) the zone worked well.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 10, 2010 7:01 AM PST reply actions
Completely agree
Much ado is being made about the lineup that closed out the 4th, and which spurred the comeback (Reke, KMart, Omri, Greene, and JT) – but I felt it was the zone D by those 5 guys that made the difference. It made the Knicks’ inside game very difficult for them, and they just happened to stop making their spot-up jumpers at the same time. Defensive stops + defensive boards = 15-point comeback.
I’m not saying that we need to go all Syracuse and play all-zone, all-the-time… but I was very pleased to see PW try something new defensively and have the courage to stick with it in crunch time.
Oh, and that Tyreke kid is kinda good too.
Whenever you think it can't possibly happen, it probably just did.
The Kings have used the zone before Doog.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
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I probably just noticed it more in this game because it actually worked, goshdangit.
Whenever you think it can't possibly happen, it probably just did.
Well it's worked before too.
It’s why I noticed it. LOL
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
And, don't forget Gallinari went out with a wrist injury late in the game.
so the Knicks outside shooting lost its major weapon. Also, most good NBA teams know how to break down the zone, so don’t expect it to be as successful against Playoff teams.
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you should see the fanshot link to a Knicks website
shows two plays as an example where the Knicks did okay breaking down the zone they just flat out couldn’t hit their shots (and one bad decision to pass it to duhon on the perimeter instead of a wide open harrington)
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Did see that FanPost, look for my comment
By breaking down, I was referring to getting a pass inside the zone. Maybe, around the FT line and then attacking the basket. The zone takes away the inside shot and gives you the outside shot. It’s a choice between two evils, and you try to take away the high percentage shot and hope you get lucky. Which is what happened, but of course none of it would have mattered if the Kings weren’t able to score at the other end, at will.
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There are all sorts of factors
That contributed to the 15-point comeback. I’m sure that if the Knicks had been effectively breaking down the zone and hitting their shots, PW would have quickly gone away from it. But they weren’t able to consistently do both (break down, make shots), and PW stuck with it, basically daring the Knicks to execute.
That’s what made me happy with the way the end of this game unfolded – PW felt the game slipping away and didn’t just try to cram round peg into square hole with even more force… instead, he tried a new approach (lineup, defensive strategy) that proved to have some success, and then stuck with it when he saw it working.
Some here have bemoaned PW’s constant lineup tinkering… and there is validity in their arguments. All things considered though, I’m glad we have an open-minded coach who is willing to try new things.
Whenever you think it can't possibly happen, it probably just did.
Good work Sam
Thanks for the recap!
Rec’d
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by lifestyleforthesellout on Feb 10, 2010 1:34 PM PST reply actions
Nice recap of the game from your point of view.
Even though you are not a Kings fan, you made numerous observations of our players that we as fans make all the time. However, we won’t forget:
There was a late stretch of the fourth quarter where Tyreke put the team on his shoulders and singlehandedly took over the game. People will probably forget that tomorrow…
We are used to seeing this from Tyreke, but we remember these episodes vividly.
We are also very familiar with your observation about Jason Thompson:
When JT is playing well, it’s beautiful to see; when he’s not, he makes you want to pull your hair out with frustration, which seemed like exactly what he was doing after some of those fouls.
Most of us are going bald from pulling our hair out watching JT.
Very interesting read. Thanks for sharing.
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what do you mean, not a kings fan?
i have been a kings fan since i was born. don’t know where you got that from.
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if watching every game on a shitty atdhe stream from new york city at the wee hours of the morning because of the time difference makes me not a fan, don’t know what does
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Don't worry Sam
I think he missed that part
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In fairness ed
It was only implicitly stated. But, it’s pretty clear if you read it that Sam is a Kings fan.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Shoot even I picked up that you were a fan and if he wasn't busy dunking his dentures I bet ElRon did too.
really enjoyed your take on the game. Unfortunately I can’t remember exactly which games they were but by my count this was the third time that ’Reke just took a deep breath, hoisted the team on his back and just refused to lose. I think Donté gave him a hand this game as well.I always enjoy the recaps from the game and I enjoyed yours. Thanks
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