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Blazers 110, Kings 94

This will be a pretty simple recap.

The Kings turned the ball over on 20 of their 89 possessions. The Blazers shot 51 percent from the floor, 56 percent from three and 90 percent on their 32 free throw attempts. The Blazers rebounded 11 of their 36 misses.

There's really not much more to it than that.

Tyreke Evans never seemed comfortable on either end -- Brandon Roy shredded Reke (and every other Kings who attempted to defend him), and Evans coughed up the ball five times. He and Beno Udrih seemed to make a concerted effort to get Spencer Hawes involved early, but it never quite lined up right, and Hawes had four turnovers. Udrih shot well, but (all told) didn't get the ball enough. (Credit Portland for adjusting its defense to take Udrih out of his game in the second half.) Carl Landry was effective, but not to the degree expected -- he had quite an odd night, really. Jason Thompson was effective ... when the game was effectively over. Sean May is a business, man. Omri Casspi didn't have it. Francisco Garcia did, except on defense.

Roy was the best player on the court, and it wasn't even close. In two years or so, I hope the tables have turned. Until then, let's hope these games don't come around too often.

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i hate portland

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Mar 13, 2010 7:07 AM PST reply actions  

:(

"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview

by BlazersOrBust on Mar 13, 2010 7:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't worry, if you guys make it into that 8th spot we'll all be Blazers fans.

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 13, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Nobody is obluigated to like anyone.

Although, I gotta admit why anyone would REALLY hate Portland is puzzling.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 13, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Because they're jealous.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 13, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Jealous? This makes sense. Stupid to be jealous of any team, but jealousy is not a rational emotion.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 13, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Spockeyguru

Controller of his emotions.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 13, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Was thinking about photoshopping it.

Now I might have to. New Avatar for Pookey time.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 13, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Never mind it looks stupid.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 13, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

That'll teach you to fuck with pooh the benevolent's ears you little punk.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 13, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

he still has the ears

the cap covers them. I know that they’re there.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 13, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 13, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point, Pookey!

Our feelings come from our emotions, which may not be rational.

I believe Westphal spoke to this in one of his post game interviews. I do not remember what team the Kings lost to. (It might have been the Celtics.) But he talked about feeling “envy” toward the other team’s play, but he turned it around to being a goal for the Kings to work toward becoming as good at that team in the future. It was a good reframe: he turned a negative emotion (envy) into a positive goal.

So, instead of feeling hate toward a team, study that team to find out what makes them so good, and then work to make improvements to be at or above their level in the future.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 13, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

bingo

that’s the only reason why. If they make it to the playoffs, that’s the team I’ll root for.

by what_the_crap on Mar 13, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll probably be rooting for the Jazz in the West (Love D-Will)

and the Magic in the East.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 13, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Well yeah.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 13, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I am a proud bandwagon Magic fan

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 13, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Fun team to watch

Very fun. I like them much better than anyone else in the East, thats for sure. I have never liked the Cavs with LeBron. LeBron’s a great player, but I just really don’t like anyone else on that team. At all. Several people on the Magic I like after Dwight. Ryan Anderson, Gortat, Shard (not his contract his game), Meercat, Barnes… even Bass.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 13, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Plus Orlando has to local boys on the team!!

Representing SacTown well

"If my aunt had a set of nuts, she'd be my uncle"

by want2win on Mar 13, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

^two

even spell check cant help that

"If my aunt had a set of nuts, she'd be my uncle"

by want2win on Mar 13, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

That's part of the enthusiasm Aykis has I would suspect.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 13, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

That and the way they play

is really fun to watch.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 13, 2010 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's what I meant when I said we'd all be Blazer fans if they're the 8th seed

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 13, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Rooting for any non-Lakers team

and GO CAVS!!!!!

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Mar 13, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll be watching Portland, mainly because of Brandon Roy.

I see Tyreke Evans, leading candidate for R.O.Y, connected to Brandon, because he was a former R.O.Y. For me watching Brandon Roy is somewhat like watching what Tyreke will be like in the future. Having a ROY candidate on the Kings makes me that much more aware of former Rookies of the Year.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 13, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Roy is up there in my favorite Non-Kings to watch play

Along with now Kevin Martin, Danny Granger, and Deron Williams.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 13, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I like the list, too.

I’ll add Steve Nash and D -Wade to it.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 13, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Nash might be my favorite non-King

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 13, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Because...?

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 13, 2010 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

breakfast sandwich... for lunch?

GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims

by iashwash on Mar 13, 2010 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

nah

Im working, brought leftovers, snacking on pistachios. But that sounds damn good.

by what_the_crap on Mar 13, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Last night there was no contest.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 13, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

it was me, his stats are as good, and better than brandon's rookie year, he is also way younger

wants he can shoot he will almost have the whole package, clutchness should come too.
yeah brandon has been coming out with something to prove against these younger guards the last couple games. (tyreke, and especially monta ellis who thinks he owns roy).

by tevisthe4th on Mar 13, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I knew it was you, but I didn't want to completely throw you under the bus.

You’re right their stats are fairly comparable, which I think goes to prove that statistics do not always tell the tale. Brandon showed Tyreke who is boss last night. I agree with you that Tyreke is younger and that when he gets his shot, he will be there. Actually, I think Tyreke is clutch already, as he plays his best under pressure. He even says it – he wants the ball in those situations.

It wasn’t a bad analogy to make, but last night turned out to be the wrong time. I think we all look forward to the day when Tyreke can give Brandon a “spanking.”

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 13, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

brandon really plays his best when he is matched up against the elite guards in the league

often out-dueling kobe and wade whenever they are matched up. Hopefully he will be able to do that when matched up with tyreke then next 7 years.

by tevisthe4th on Mar 13, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

It should be a lot of fun to watch Brandon matched up with Tyreke in the coming years.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 13, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Roy is a beast.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 13, 2010 9:17 AM PST reply actions  

Now, I believe all the great things people have been saying about Brandon Roy on these threads for months.

I’ll never doubt y’all again.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 13, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

one thing about roy is his efficiencey in scoring.

His last 2 games he has scored 69 points while making 24 of his 35 shots.

by tevisthe4th on Mar 13, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

you just can’t look at a season stat line and understand Brandon Roy.

#52

by Cablinasian on Mar 13, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure you can.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 13, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

And if Roy's stats don't indicate he's a great player you need to get your eyes (and your brain) fixed.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 13, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Are saying that he is better or worse than his stats would indicate?

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 13, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Better.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 13, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Obvious the Kings still need time to figure out their roles.

With the exception of Reke, Beno and Landry, the Kings are all still attempting to figure out how and where they fit into this team. Their roles are not defined yet, and that won’t come until next season, or hopefully, by the end of this season. That is what the Kings need to be consistent and good. That, and another talented big.

Oh, and Reke is so ridiculously good, that I, as a Kings fan, am thanking the basketball gods (ie-Petrie and crew) that our team has a legitimate pillar to build around.

Omri has got no legs at all. Will he have anything soon? Oh, and I like Cisco first off the bench.

by amonk81 on Mar 13, 2010 9:33 AM PST reply actions  

its not possible for a young team to lose a game against a better team is it? in

We should automatically herd those over into one corner if the loss is something you take real seriously.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 13, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Guess I wasn't clear. I was not taking the loss seriously or hard.

Quite the opposite. I was trying to point out the fact that the Kings are still in the process of meshing as a team, so wins and losses don’t really matter this season. Other than for lottery position.

by amonk81 on Mar 13, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I love your recap!
The Kings turned the ball over on 20 of their 89 possessions. The Blazers shot 51 percent from the floor, 56 percent from three and 90 percent on their 32 free throw attempts. The Blazers rebounded 11 of their 36 misses.

This says it all! Bravo!

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 13, 2010 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

Roy was a very mature junior and senior at UW

Most are right that a more fair comparison would be of Evans in two years and Roy this year. With that said I don’t really like the comparison of Roy and Evans because the two of them are very different players. Roy has never relied so heavily on his physical strength and is more of a finesse player who has dedicated himself to becoming efficient at every aspect of a shooting guard’s game.

Roy is like a player you build in a video game. You have limited attributes to give to any certain skill so you balance all the parameters…he doesn’t have any glaring weaknesses…he’s just good at everything. Roy even blend’s into his team. Even though he’s clearly their best player it never seems like he overly dominates the ball.

by ucla06 on Mar 13, 2010 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

At least we're trying different things

I mentioned in the game preview, that the Kings guards need to learn how to get the ball inside against good exterior defenses and zones. So, I was pleasantly surprise to see both Tyreke and Beno, getting the ball into Spencer. Yes, he turned it over and we didn’t get many points, but it’s a skill the guards needed to develop.

So, whether it’s Spencer, JT, Landry or some future center, that’s down low, the guards still need to be able to move the ball inside and I as very glad to see them try. Especially the play where Camby came out out to stop the ball and we got the ball to Spencer for the easy dunk. It was something that Westphal said he wanted to accomplish during one of the prerecorded comment that they played during the game.

I think we’ve won 5 games against Western Conference playoff teams, and Portland beat us soundly earlier in the week. So, although I would have minded seeing the KIngs win, I really wasn’t to be expected. So, I really like that the Kings are adding new things to their offense. It won’t change much in the grand scheme of things for this season, but it’s going to pay big dividends next season.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
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by HighTops on Mar 13, 2010 3:15 PM PST reply actions  

As a blazers fan

Someone convince me why Hawes will ever be better than a crappy back-up. I have watched about 5 kings games this year (all the blazers ones and couple more) – entirely for reke – and Hawes is stand out for being the worst player everytime. Last night he was a big reason portland was able to pull away. Bad desicions, terrible body language, cant defend, can’t post.

I can see the rest of talent on the team. Landry – solid, thompson – enough flashes to keep him in the rotation, Beno has shot very well every time I watch him, Cassipi – great energy guy, and I love Reke. He is a much bigger, more athletic version of Andre Miller. Seemed like he could get to the paint at will and solid finisher, great rebounder, decent defender, inconsistent jumper. Garcia could be your version of Thabo with OKC. Hope you look hard at wesley johnson in the draft if you are in that 5/6 range – I think he would work well.

But I just dont see it with Hawes. Maybe I am crazy.

by bunk moreland on Mar 13, 2010 3:34 PM PST reply actions  

There is no convincing

For every game that he has like this and this, he has a couple of games like this and this. His inconsistency is a source of frustration for everyone. He’s still only 21, but he better start growing up in a hurry.

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by section214 on Mar 13, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

You're not crazy. Interesting that he should stand out to you as being so crappy.

Hawes drives a lot of us crazy with his inconsistency. There is a lot of back and forth discussion as to whether he should be kept, with hopes that he will develop better defensive skills, or traded. His offensive skills are currently better than his defensive ones. The terrible body language, that you refer to, drives me nuts. Personally, I see him becoming a decent back-up center. I hope the Kings will get a better, more talented, defensive-minded center soon. But, that is just me.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 13, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

You really can't go wrong with any of the top 3 picks in this draft.

Wall/Turner can both be great complements to Evans, and Cousins is a beast inside.

"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"

-Ron Artest

by premthegrem on Mar 14, 2010 12:17 AM PST up reply actions  

That's what people have been saying.

I’ll probably watch a little bit of Cousins and Turner today on TV. Kentucky plays this morning at 10 on Channel 10 and Ohio State plays at 12:30 on channel 13. I am really curious about Cousins with his reputation for his stats and his problematic outbursts.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 14, 2010 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

In an earlier post, before the trade deadline

other sites were questioned about players that they would be interested and Spencer was brought up quite a few times. I guess the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Off course there have been many questions here about Oden and his future and where Portland would be without Camby. So, maybe the future of the center position is up for grabs on both teams. So, we’ll hope Oden gets healthy for you and you can hope Hawes develops for us.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Mar 13, 2010 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

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