Tyreke's Ideal Back Court Teammate
With the draft coming, and all this hullabaloo over Evan Turner, I started to think about what type of player would be Tyreke's ideal back court teammate.
With these thoughts in mind, I came to the conclusion that Tyreke's ideal back court mate would be a young Shane Battier (shocking, I know). But because Geoff Petrie doesn't have a time machine - that we know of - who are some current players in this mold?
My list of potential puzzle pieces in order of ideal fit:
1. Courtney Lee -- He does everything I described, is a young gun only in his sophomore year, and plays with that wonderful intensity I mentioned.
2. Trevor Ariza -- Is a fantastic defender, an extremely capable catch and shoot player, and has a decent contract.
3. Eric Gordon -- I know this is getting a little too ideal now. Unquestionably the best player mentioned so far, but he doesn't have a big enough body to defend all those strong guards throughout the league (Kobe, Wade, Iggy, etc.)
As you can see, this is a rather short list as I'm having trouble finding the prototypical young Shane Battier type players. Which is why I want your help! Who are your choices for an ideal (but realistic) back court mate for our studly Tyreke Evans?
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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This would negate our size mismatch in the backcourt, which I view as a huge asset.
It would allow traditional matchups rather than force opposing coaches to pick their poison. That’s why I prefer a traditionally sized 2-guard.
Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!
like Eric Gordon?
Will be sipping virgin peach cocktails with Mark S. Allen, Grant Napear, and Tyreke Evans when the Kings win the championship.
by Pollard4LIfe on Mar 14, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Curry is worth the tradeoff
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Mar 15, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree
I think Curry can shoot and create, plus he is a better distributor and defender than people give him credit for. He is like Beno, but younger, cheaper, and better.
I think he would be much better than Gordon because he has better passing instincts,
I better get to work on that time machine
…with Mrs. Christie’s allowance of course
Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!
Doug Christie's wife
Will be sipping virgin peach cocktails with Mark S. Allen, Grant Napear, and Tyreke Evans when the Kings win the championship.
by Pollard4LIfe on Mar 14, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Theses guys would all work for me -
Chris Paul III, Deron Williams, Dwyane Wade, Brandon Roy.
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not LeBron?
Omar Minaya is my hero!
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by Scott Coleman on Mar 14, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
NaSG and NaPG
On the other hand, if he wants to play in our backcourt, who am I to argue?
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LeBron's best position
Might be Power Forward. He’s big and strong enough to guard them, and there really isn’t a PF in the league who could guard him. Plus stats agree with me. According to 82games.com 10% of his minutes have been at PF, where he has a PER of 43.5, 67% at SF where he has a PER at 34.0. Both ridiculous numbers.
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How about...
BYU’s Fredette?
Tyreke Evans for R.O.Y!
by sac-townz finest on Mar 14, 2010 9:44 PM PDT reply actions
Shimmer?
HELL NO. Think JJ Redick would be better. Plus he goes to BYU and well eff BYU and UNLV. How the hell do both them get a 7 and 8 seed and my Aztecs are a effing 11. We beat UNM twice and UNLV for the championship, and we get a 11. BYU SUCKS.
Ok i’m good again, but still no Shimmer.
Tyreke's biggest weaknesses are outside shooting and getting his teammates involved
Tyreke isn’t a complete player right now. Until and unless he improves in those areas, he needs to play with a guard that conceals those weaknesses with good outside shooting and passing/ball handling skills to help get the rest of the team involved (basically a rich man’s Beno). Any other skills you’re talking about (defense, energy, intangibles) are just valuable skills for any player to have. It’s not really specific for somebody that would pair well with Tyreke.
Avery Bradley?
How does he shoot? He seems like he would be a beno type player but more athletic. IMO
by madmavmathews on Mar 14, 2010 10:35 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I'm not a big fan of Courtney Lee
I’d rather just roll with Beno for another year than go after Lee.
I like Eric Gordon too, but that’s a pipe dream for now.
I think the ideal backcourt mate for Tyreke isn’t in the NBA yet. I think he could be paired with the right star (like Deron Williams or Brandon Roy) but it’s realistic to think of role players. All the guards with a good handle and outside shot are kind of small. All the big guards I think of that can get after it on defense and slash are poor outside shooters.
Been there, done that.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Francisco Garcia is my ideal fit.
I know that seems odd but Cisco is a 2 guard, handles the ball well (JR has mentioned when the Kings drafted Cisco that they saw DC13 in him), plays D, and can shoot.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
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by pookeyguru on Mar 15, 2010 5:07 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I kind of agree with pookey
If you go by the description in the fanpost it sure does sound a lot like Cisco. It’s hard not to want to upgrade everyone on a poor team but going by the description it seems we already have that player. In short I think our back court is great for now with Cisco & Beno. This team will win more with time & a good free agent big or big from the draft. Mostly time I believe.
I love beating dead horses.
by allbenji's on Mar 15, 2010 8:14 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Good choice. I'm just concerned about his age.
Our core players should peak at the same time. As it stands, Cisco is far older than our core.
Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!
I'm not.
His age is one thing I like about him.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I Agree
Cisco is a great fit for all of the reasons above including his leadership.
I think Matt Barnes would be an excellent addition to the team. He is a local kid who would get Arco fired up at least once a night with his long ball, and physical play.
He would fit in well starting next to Tyreke at the 2. Spacing the floor with his 3 point shot, and guarding the other teams best players 1-3. If he doesn’t start at the 2 he can come off the bench from at the 2 or 3 and even play the 4 if we go small. An ideal roll player who can do a little bit of everything on the floor.
He can also help with leadership and mentoring the younger players. Remember he is a journeyman who has had to hustle and bust his ass to stay in the league. He was also a key member of the Warriors team that Punked Dallas in the 1st round, and he is likely to go deep into the playoffs with Orlando this year.
let it ride
what’s up with our kings fans. why are we always looking for the next problem to fret over? just chill and enjoy the ride. right now Beno is working just fine with Reke. for next year, lets wait and see how Reke’s game matures. i’m willing to bet his outside shot is going ot be MUCH improved, thus the backcourt running mate may not have the same needs to be effective. its just not something to worry about right now. when/if Beno becomes a liability that is limiting our ability to succeed in the playoffs,m then lets shop, but for now just enjoy the good ball that we are seeing.
if not Beno, then Cisco
but, I also do like Cisco in that spot. I really thought this was going to be his breakout year, but with the freak injury…but I can see with a full year of recovery and his role as team leader expanded after K.M. trade, he could really fill that spot nicely
I'm enjoying the ride with Beno.
Sometimes we don’t appreciate what we’ve got, whether it is a back court teammate, girlfriend/wife, job, you name it. The grass is always greener. Reke and Beno are great teammates and complement each other very well. You could get someone with better stats than Beno, only to discover that he doesn’t complement Tyreke. Didn’t we learn something from the Kevin Martin and Tyreke experiment?
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Didn’t we learn something from the Kevin Martin and Tyreke experiment?
No, we haven’t. The grass is always greener because perfection is what we strive for despite the incapability of human beings to be perfect.
As far as Kevin Martin/Tyreke Evans, it was clear that Paul Westphal had it in for Kevin and that’s why it didn’t work.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
As far as Kevin Martin/Tyreke Evans, it was clear that Paul Westphal had it in for Kevin and that’s why it didn’t work.
If there was anything that is clear to me, nothing was clear about any of it.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Sarcazms my friend.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
I guess I fell into the chasm, again.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
When in doubt, don't assume.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
In order to do that, I would have to assume that everything could be sarcasm...
and then I would be assuming again. Unfortunately, voice inflection and facial expression do not come across in these posts. Maybe you could add a happy face when you are joking.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
by Slam_Dunk on Mar 15, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL I love it.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
agreed..
agreed, just enjoy the ride and the process of development..honestly right now Beno/Reke is working pretty well. don’t worry so much. Petrie will handle upgrading personel when the time and fit is right. but for now …
by gaindeyouth on Mar 15, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I do think...
Evan Turner with an added, automatic(Ray Alleneque) 3 point shot, would be a LETHAL fit next to Tyreke.
Forget back court fit
We need a Star type player in the frontcourt to match with him. Landry is good, and the best of our 3 front court guys but put someone actually scary in the frontcourt, either with Landry or Hawes
Playoffs playoffs playoffs.
That would make either Beno or Cisco just fine. You don’t need an All-Star at every position and what I like about the two of them is that they seem fine about playing their roles.
Cousins would be scary with Tyreke and Landry, and I know the head concerns, but if / when he grows up a bit?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Problem is
Its looking like we’ll need to get lucky in the lottery. The Clippers are fading fast and its looking like we’ll finish with the 7th or 8th pick as many of us anticipated.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Mar 15, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
...
once again kings fans always looking for a problem. if we lose , the sky is falling. if we win, we won’t get a good enough draft pick.
by gaindeyouth on Mar 15, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Ain't just Kings fans.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
What a stupid way to bash a group of people
Other than maybe a couple delusional idiots, the fans that freak out when the Kings lose aren’t the ones that worry about draft position, and the fans that are hoping for better draft position don’t freak out when the Kings lose. You’re talking about two opposite points of view held within a group of people. Of course it looks nonsensical when you combine them and project them both onto the group.
What if your wife sprouts branches and becomes an olive tree?
What if you sizzle a steak all the way to the moon? (Any will do.) What if I ever had a nice personality? What if Grant Napear joined the ranks of being human? What if Sam Amick ever got his due respect in Sacramento?
I think I’ve made my point.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
Maybe teams will pass on Cousins because of his past behavior when provoked.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
The most sucessful formula
Has always been inside and out All-Stars paired. I think its a no-brainer why.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Mar 15, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
how about
james posey? i assume his contract is slighty fat, but he can shoot the three, and can defend the two,three or four positions very well.
If Donte/Omri are still struggling come mid-season
And the Kings have cap space, I suspect you will see the Kings make inquiries about a guy like Posey.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
mid-season in the 10-11 season
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
His
perfect teammate is someone who can score without needing the ball. Someone with a quick trigger. A younger Ray Allen would be perfect, IMO.
I was thinking that the other day too crap.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
uh oh
too crap v. notorious big p.g — isn’t this how the rapper wars started?
by betweentheeyes on Mar 15, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I do what I can. :)
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16
honestly, Im not sure
I haven’t really seen Curry play, but I kept reading he’d be great. I think a Michael Redd in his prime would be too.
Hell, I think once he gets back all the way, Cisco will be great for Reke. Garcia doesn’t mind shooting them real quick.
fucking
anthony morrow. i cant believe i havent thought of him before, he would fit in so damn well. young, one of the best gunners from long range( number 1 last season at .47), with good off ball movement along the perimeter. closest thing to a young ray allen. i could see us trading cisco and a second rounder for him. and theres also azubuike, rudy fernandez(slim), and q rich
by Harrisonyaka on Mar 16, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
What do most people feel about Kevin Martin's ability to score without needing the ball?
I feel like Kmart was decent at this but was a terrible fit next to tyreke. So we’re looking for a younger version of Ray Allen or maybe Rip Hamilton?
damn Enter button
he tries to draw the foul too much to “gel” with Evans right away. I do think they could have made it work though.
Exactly
Allow me to explain….
NBA Comparison: Alex English/Eddie Johnson
Strengths: Wes has all the tools, and fits the description of your classic athletic small forward … He’s quick and slippery when maneuvering in the lane … At 6’7, he has a huge wingspan (easily over 7’ feet), and tremendous leaping abilities which allow him to rise above traffic around the rim … He has a smooth and fluent motion on his jump shot, and gets nice elevation … Has a strong mid-range game that will only get better … Can spot up from short or deep, but seems to excel at shooting off one dribble after his quick first step enables him to create space between him and his defender… When he doesn’t shoot off the dribble, he uses an effective jab step to create separation and get off his shot, a must-have tool for a scoring small forward in the NBA … Also has deep range with a high and quick release, and his consistency will only improve – his 3 point percentage has gradually risen from 29% to 33% to 39% respectively in each of his 3 years… He shoots 50% from the field overall, and does not need 20 plus shots to be effective … Extremely unselfish, the offense rarely becomes stagnant when the ball is in his hands, a tendency other teams have when their go-to player tries to isolate himself … An underrated passer showing excellent vision and passing skills for a 3 … He moves extremely well off the ball, and does a great job of getting himself open off back screens … Wes can run the floor and finish effectively in transition … His quickness, awareness and long wingspan come into play defensively as well, as he is a terrific off-ball and help defender … Can quickly move from the weak-side to ball-side, and uses those long arms and high leaping abilities to block an average of 2 shots per game … He’s athletic and long enough to play effective on-ball defense at the next level … His wingspan and leaping abilities also make him an excellent rebounder, and his persistent nature and good nose for the ball make him a pest on theoffensive glass …
Weaknesses: Sometimes Wes settles or relies too much on his jump shot, and when it’s not on that day, he can disappear for long stretches throughout the game … Needs to bulk up- when guarded by stronger defenders, he tends to pull back for tougher jump shots as opposed to taking it strong and drawing the foul … Attempts less than 4 free throws per game … Tries to get out of slumps by shooting jumpers instead of being more aggressive … Has not developed much of a back-to-the-basket game yet, but his skills, high release and length give him a shot to develop a post game over time … Has trouble creating off the dribble, most of his opportunities come after one dribble or a catch and shoot … Not much of a playmaker, his ball handling skills are average, and he tends to throw the ball away too often … He’s 23 years old, so his upside and potential might take a hit when GMs look at guys who are up to 3 years younger …
Than link it.
There’s plenty of people who can manage to click on a link. It’s what it’s their for.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
wesley just soundslike another te' greene to me
this is donte’s draft profile
strengths:A long and versatile player that possesses tremendous perimeter skills,Deadly out of the triple threat, where he utilizes jabs and pump fakes to attack the opposition
variety of acrobatic and off-balance shots,an excellent rebounder with the ability to dominate the glass, His leaping ability and body control allow him to finish over and around people in the lane ,He possesses a terrific spin move Also shows great form and range on his shot
weaknesses: Far too often settles for fade away 3 point shots instead of trying to create a better shot.Needs to get stronger and bulk up, shows an excellent frame, but still needs to add strength, Struggles finishing after getting hit ,Shies away from contact which is reflected by his measly 3.8 free throw attempts per game
the resemblance is far too uncanny for me to place any faith in drafting another syracuse orange
by Harrisonyaka on Mar 16, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnson is smaller
and a much better shooter than Donté was coming out of college. Really, the only thing that they have in common is that they both attended Syracuse.
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really? you dont see any similarities in their skill set/body frame?
both have great length for their positions, excellent athletic ability, a thin frame, good spot up shooter, good defender/ rebounder for their position
by Harrisonyaka on Mar 16, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Greene is 4" taller,
and was not known as a good shooter (especially a spot up shooter) or defender coming out of college. Greene also went 28th in his draft, while Johnson is projected to go in the top five.
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very true, 214
im basically going on these draft profiles to make my comparisons, and half of them are as vague as shit. should he really be projected in the top five though?
if he slides down to the early/ late teens, id definitely look to him or xavier henry to fit as rekes backcourt mate
by Harrisonyaka on Mar 16, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry to pump UCLA but Jrue Holiday is finally starting to show up...
He’s another guy like Westbrook(though not in the same class athletically) who was forced to play SG since Collison was around. Didn’t have the greatest year at UCLA but he’s finally starting to show up in the NBA. Unlike Westbrook, Holiday’s original and natural position was PG but like Tyreke he can play either position. I believe he’s been playing SG next to Lou Williams.
He doesn’t dominate the ball and might be a great complement to Tyreke. I’m only saying this now because he’s actually matching our best complement (Beno), stat-wise and he’s currently the youngest player in the NBA. Holiday is still developing his shot but he’s got the NBA 3 down and he’d be an upgrade over Beno defensively. As a 17th pick he might be a realistic trade target. We’d also have great size in the backcourt still as Holiday is close to 6’5".
Holiday’s numbers in March
33.3 min, 50%fg, 56%3pt, 83%ft, 1.4stls, 3.3to, 3.6rbs, 5.1ast, 13.9pts
Beno’s numbers in March
33.5 min, 50%fg, 50%3pt, 100%ft, 0.9stls, 1.5to, 2.8rbs, 4.5ast, 13.5pts
I agree with you bruin
but why in the world would Philly part with him?
by betweentheeyes on Mar 16, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions

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