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Tyreke Evans is More Than the Layup King: He's the Layup God

 

We all know Tyreke can seemingly get to the rim at will.  It's happened plenty of times.  The opposing team tries to play him 1-on-1, and he simply blows by them to the hoop for a layup.  He gets layups in crunch time with the game on the line.  This is by far his biggest offensive weapon, and opposing teams have devoted their entire teams defensive game plans to stopping him from getting to the paint.

What you might not know about Tyreke however, is that he gets to the rim more than any player in the entire league.  Every single one.

After the jump, the stats.

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According to Hoopdata, Tyreke averages 8.3 attempts at the rim, about .7 more than the player in 2nd place, Zach Randolph.  He's also 1st in the league in makes at the rim at 5.0 a game (tied with LeBron).  More attempts and makes than every single big man in the league.

And what's even more unique about Tyreke is how much his scores at the rim are unassisted, unlike big men and explosive players like LeBron who throw down alley oops on a regular basis.  Tyreke is only assisted on 24.7% of his makes around the rim, while LeBron is at about 48.1%.  The only other player in the top 40 of Attempts at the rim with less % of his makes that are assisted is Russell Westbrook at 21.2% (Attempts 5.7 FG at the rim a game). The other guards in the top 40? Wade (7.2 attempts, 33.4% assisted), Ellis (6.7 attempts, 36.4% assisted), Stephen Jackson (6.1 attempts, 55.4% assisted), Stuckey (5.9 attempts, 29.8% assisted), Rose (5.6 attempts, 35.1% assisted), Rondo (5.4 attempts, 33.3% assisted), and Tony Parker (5.2 attempts, 27.7% assisted). 

Scores at the rim are the most efficient in basketball, and the fact that Tyreke can get so many of them is in part what makes him such a special player, especially when he's doing it as a rookie, with a still iffy jump shot.  When he gets that jump shot going, all it will do is lead to more attempts at the rim, since teams won't be able to pack the paint on him.  This will also lead to more makes, and a higher field goal percentage.  There really won't be a way to guard him unless you're an exceptional man defender like Shane Battier.

Another result of getting to the rim a lot is drawing fouls, something he'll get even better at with more experience, and eventual ref bias.  He's already 18th in the league in FTAs at 6.5 a game, and you have to go all the way to 87th in the league to find the 2nd place rookie, Brandon Jennings (3.5 FTA).  Getting opposing players and teams into foul trouble and getting to the line will lead to a lot of easy points.

These statistics to me are the most telling of the future, and of the current rookie of the year argument.  No other rookie does something so good as to have entire opposing teams focus their entire defense on it.  No other rookie demands this much respect.

No other rookie is as good.

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Great research

I love it. Very well done.

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by Exhibit G on Mar 17, 2010 10:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Nice analysis and video

I like how well the commentary tied in with immediate examples in the highlights. Usually these highlight reels seem like just a bunch of randomly strung together clips.

Thanks for the stats too. I had no idea.

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by SactoRyan on Mar 17, 2010 10:10 AM PDT reply actions  

This is far more interesting than knowing Tyreke's age.
Scores at the rim are the most efficient in basketball, and the fact that Tyreke can get so many of them is in part what makes him such a special player, especially when he’s doing it as a rookie

This is what makes Tyreke so very special. This is what will definitively make him ROY. This is what will make him a superstar, who some would argue he is already.

Tyreke averages 8.3 attempts at the rim, about .7 more than the player in 2nd place, LeBron James. More attempts and makes than every single big man in the league.

While I think that most of us wondered or suspected this, it is nice to get the confirmation. I also thought it interesting that LeBron James was second, as Tyreke is frequently compared to LeBron.

Very interesting that the only other player in the top 40 of attempts at the rim with less % of his makes that are assisted is Russell Westbrook at 21.2%. We all saw how great Westbrook played against the Kings.

There really won’t be a way to guard him unless you’re an exceptional man defender like Shane Battier.

 As you point out, Aykis, Battier was the only defender this season who effectively shut Tyreke down. Not bad – one guy in the league. As we saw last night, even Ron Artest couldn’t stop Tyreke.

These statistics to me are the most telling of the future, and of the current rookie of the year argument. No other rookie does something so good as to have entire opposing teams focus their entire defense on it. No other rookie demands this much respect.

This is powerful stuff. This is the kind of thing, which should be Peaches’ mantra. You might want to pass this along to Grant Napear.

Thank you Aykis.

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by Slam_Dunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Tyreke's age?

What’s important about that? How old is he?

I wish our play-by-play could keep us informed on pertinent information like the age of our rookies.

by nobodyinparticular on Mar 17, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a joke, really.

The Kings’ game announcer, Grant Napear, is constantly reminding people that Tyreke is only 20 years old.

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by Slam_Dunk on Mar 17, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dang Dunk

You fell into the Sar-chasm.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 17, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I sure did!!!

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by Slam_Dunk on Mar 18, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really good stuff Ay16....

Said it before, as have others, but the only player in the league better at getting to the rim and finishing is Lebron. Tyreke has an unbelievable combination of size, arm length, phenomenal body control and skills around the rim. It is something I’ve never seen before. He is extraordinarily athletic without dunking the ball. He is a superstar in the making. We are LUCKY to have Reke.

by amonk81 on Mar 17, 2010 10:20 AM PDT reply actions  

You apparently missed this...
What you might not know about Tyreke however, is that he gets to the rim more than any player in the entire league. Every single one.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

"and finishing"

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by Viliphied on Mar 17, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Plus LeBron doesn't play as efficiently as Reke

He could get to the rim on every trip, but he prefers to shoot way too many jumpers.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 17, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lebron shoots WAAAY too many jumpers

but he’s still a much more efficient player than Reke right now.

by Charlieb on Mar 17, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reke plays to his strengths more than LeBron

If LeBron cut half his jumpers and added drives, he’d have a PER over 40.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 17, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

And thats why MJ is peerless

He always played to his strengths.

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by pookeyguru on Mar 17, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

He only started getting good at jumpers when he lost a bit of his explosiveness.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 17, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

MJ would have a peer

if Lebron played for a coach that could get him to take less contested jumpshots. Actually, Lebron will be the one that is peerless if he ever figures that out.

by Charlieb on Mar 17, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

MJ would have a peer

If Larry Hughes played for a coach that could get him to take less contested jumpshots. Actually, Larry Hughes will be the one that is peerless if he ever figures that out.

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by chapuforyou on Mar 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

First non-Chapu related post I've seen from you

And you compare Larry Hughes to MJ and Lebron? I didn’t see that coming.

by Charlieb on Mar 17, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

my internet is broken

Is Larry Hughes new nickname Chapu? Did it get passed on to him, like a contagion, when the Kings signed him?

Is Garret Temple the next Chapu? I am so confused I will pull my hair out; I should be done by the Bucks game on Friday.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 17, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Something about Chapu jumping off a pier,

I think.

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by section214 on Mar 17, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's cheating

He doesn’t have any hair.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 18, 2010 3:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't call it cheating

maybe say it is a follicular-disadvantage advantage

by betweentheeyes on Mar 18, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I get what you mean.

And I had no idea that Reke led the league in shots at the rim. Pretty amazing for a guy with no hops. I can’t think of anybody in history that could get to the rim in the way that he does.

by Charlieb on Mar 17, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

come on...when lebron was a rookie he didn't take many jumpers either

to be fair lebron only began to take more outside shots as his jumper improved but I agree he’s fallen in love w/ the fadeaway and 3pt shot.

I’d rather Tyreke model his game after Wade. Wade used to go to the rim a lot more (and got punished doing it) but now his game is much more balanced. Hopefully reke can move his game to the perimeter just a little bit next year. Guys who rely so much on getting to the rim more prone to getting hurt (wade, ginobili).

by ucla06 on Mar 17, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I totally agree about LeBron

He definitely is better than Tyreke at pretty much everything, but he doesn’t utilize his strengths as much anymore. I hope this doesn’t happen with Tyreke once his jumper starts falling, because while I think Tyreke can develop a reliable jumper, I doubt it will be as effective as his constantly driving to the rim is.

And the thing about guys like Wade and Ginobili getting hurt all the time shouldn’t apply too much to Reke, because he’s built more solidly than both those guys. He’s a tank, compared to those guys finesse and explosiveness.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 17, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

In fact has already happened this year.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 18, 2010 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funny, I was just thinking of posting the same type of thing last night

But I was too lazy and that was that. My headline was going to be, “Tyreke Evans, Making Layups Badass Again”

by clicc916 on Mar 17, 2010 10:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, I know how it feels. I finished my stab at the book of Genesis on the eighth day.

by FreshStart on Mar 17, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is astounding

how good he is when teams have literally started putting 4 guys in the paint to stop him penetrating because he has a weak outside shot…and he still drives and finishes. That move on Artest last night was incredible

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by debrixtha1 on Mar 17, 2010 10:50 AM PDT reply actions  

After watching this video...

I think it’s right to pull a Tom Zook and just say “THANK YOU, THANK YOU!”

by JuMowbray on Mar 17, 2010 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

I think what's been amazing me about Tyreke more than anything

is not just his ability to get to the rim, but his ability to get the ball in the basket. Even when his body seems a bit out of control and there’s defenders with their hands all around the basket, he zeroes-in on his target like a damn cyborg and puts the ball exactly where it needs to go. The perfect loft, the perfect angle, the perfect spin. Tyreke may not be the most eloquent speaker or even be considered to have a “high basketball IQ”, but I honestly feel like he understands the physics of a basketball, the actual ball, more than maybe any other player in the league. He plays like someone who hasn’t gone an hour without a basketball in his hand since he was 4 years old. I’d be surprised if his palms aren’t orange. He is the Ball Whisperer.

Imagine now if he’s able to shift his energy and focus into becoming as precise with shooting as he is with his layups. And as precise with his passing. Game over, league. Game. Over.

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by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 11:14 AM PDT reply actions   3 recs

He is the Ball Whisperer.

by clicc916 on Mar 17, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

hahahahahahahahahahahahah

by Harrisonyaka on Mar 17, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great video

But I have to say that I was more than slightly amused that they showed this video at halftime after Tyreke had just missed two point-blank lay-ups.

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by LeaguePassAddict on Mar 17, 2010 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

he was just keeping the defense honest

(I am thinking of changing my name to Tyrekeforyou)

by betweentheeyes on Mar 17, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make sure you list Reke as your favorit slalom skiier

And have a wall of reke in your profile showing how much you care. Otherwise it would be inauthentic.

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by pookeyguru on Mar 17, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well done Aykis

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by pookeyguru on Mar 17, 2010 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

nobody,

absolutely nobody has stopped his vicious two step. no longer the euro step , im calling it the reke step.

by Harrisonyaka on Mar 17, 2010 11:29 AM PDT reply actions  

what impresses me most

is teams have adjusted their entire defensive schemes solely to stop tyreke, and yet he still finds his way to the paint. i have yet to see a team/defender that can stop him

by Harrisonyaka on Mar 17, 2010 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

lol

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by Slam_Dunk on Mar 17, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

No only from getting assists!

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by Widowwolf on Mar 17, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is amazing. How can he not be rookie of the year?

It makes me wonder how awesome he can be in a couple years. He knows what he needs to work on; his shooting. That will make him incredibly tough.

Tyreke working on his conditioning and strength with a boxing trainer this offseason will also help his quickness and possibly his ability to play above the rim a bit more. Imagine Evans getting to the rim and being able to dunk in traffic. Adding that, along with a jump shot, will definitely put him into MVP conversation when it happens. Imagine a bigger Dwayne Wade.

He is certainly amazing now.

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by Ice_9ine on Mar 17, 2010 11:55 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Aykis - NaPUNK

Awesome read. Rec’d.

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by section214 on Mar 17, 2010 12:44 PM PDT reply actions  

i honestly dont know how he does what he does. he has really long arms and finishes well,

and he has a hell of a handle, but does reke even jump when he plays basketball? he seems like he just sort of dribbles, skips, throws the ball at the basket, and watches it go in. hes such a unique player, really fun to watch.

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by TheMoon on Mar 17, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

You like that South American guy right

And… erson Varejao?

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by Aykis16 on Mar 17, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd rather play him at SG than Tyreke Evans

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by chapuforyou on Mar 17, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's good. We wouldn't want Verajao taking Tyreke's job.

Because he’s our Point Guard.

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by tomroadrunner on Mar 17, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Duh, but he's a guy who sometimes will play SG.

And the thought of Anderson Varejao playing PG is laughable.

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by chapuforyou on Mar 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Proof that you arent crazy Chapu.

Although living in Old Milwaukee might prove that on its own.

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by pookeyguru on Mar 17, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

drinking old Milwaukee on the other hand

is 5150 offense.
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by betweentheeyes on Mar 17, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL wow.

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by pookeyguru on Mar 17, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder

how does his stats compare to past rookies? I mean, if he is the league leader in attempts and finishes at the rim, in a league with Lebron and Dwight Howard, what other rookies in the past have done the same? WIlt Chamberlain?

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by Ellimist on Mar 17, 2010 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Great stuff Aykis

I did notice a mistake though. You mentioned the player with the 2nd most attempts is .7 behind Reke. This is true, but it’s Zach Randolph, not LeBron. LeBron only attempts 6.7 shots a game.

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by Kfan in Korea on Mar 17, 2010 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

BOOM!

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by shahani on Mar 17, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

?

It was just a small brain fart on Aykis’ part. The only reason I pointed it out is because I think it’s a great post and I think there’s a good chance that it could be linked to from other sources, and thus should be as accurate as possible.

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by Kfan in Korea on Mar 17, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Kfan, why do you hate Aykis so much?

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by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm that's weird

I could’ve sworn it said LeBron earlier today. Mine eyes deceive me. Thanks Kfan.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 17, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

think about it....

reke could be a dunk god, with a little more explosiveness he couldve crammed half of those with his 13 foot arms.

you gotta love the throwback layup game that he has though, so damn classy

by Harrisonyaka on Mar 17, 2010 5:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Is the fact that Tyreke is assisted at such a low percentage bad?

Does it mean the team does not share the ball enough? OR does it mean Tyreke succeeds with teammates that are very sub par?

by mayfieldcol on Mar 17, 2010 8:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I think it means he has the ball in his hands a lot

And I also think it means he probably needs to learn when & how he can give the ball up and still be effective.

One of the many things Reke has to learn really.

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by pookeyguru on Mar 17, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interested on yours and others take on this

But I certainly have not been impressed with Evans’ off-ball movement. I’ve read a bit about people saying this very thing, but what I am seeing with my own eyes is a very general lack of enthusiasm in his cuts when he doesn’t have the ball.

I think this plays into how effective he is without the ball.

by nobodyinparticular on Mar 17, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

he is either standing around or he mixes it up by again just standing there but with his arms out asking for the ball

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by wallywagon11 on Mar 18, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am scared at the combination of how good he already is and how much he still has to learn

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by Player To Be Named Later on Mar 18, 2010 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

OT sort of

Brandon Jennings playing like cat vomit in the 4th quarter in a collapse against the Clips – dominated by the immortal Steve Blake

How the hell has this Williams D-Leaguer from the Dubs not made the league until now?

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by lchristmas on Mar 17, 2010 10:04 PM PDT reply actions  

The D-League Demolition of the Hornets tonight

great game to watch. Steph Curry on the sidelines – Tolliver, Hunter and Williams, all D-Leaguers combined for 67 points, as the Warriors come back from 21 down to win by 10.

19 Wins for the Warriors. What does this say about the TWolves and the Nets?

by betweentheeyes on Mar 17, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of the Dubs

What would Anthony Morrow look like next to Evans?

by nobodyinparticular on Mar 18, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

they need to trade monta for a big

but since theyre incompetent they won’t, but they will keep morrow too

morrow would be awesome on the kings

by lchristmas on Mar 18, 2010 6:59 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

even thinner and even less of a defender
What would Anthony Morrow look like next to Evans?

by betweentheeyes on Mar 18, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

And he can't create his own shot at all.

He’s a great shooter, and not much else.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 19, 2010 3:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you,

this was a phenomenal read.

I think his lack of explosive jumping will allow him to maintain his game throughout his career. Guys like V.Carter, Crash, DWade, etc. have taken some really hard spills going to the rim because they rely on jumping ability whereas Tyreke has a credit card jump which allows him to absorb hits better because hes not out of control, flying through air.

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by richmond02 on Mar 17, 2010 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Tyreke has more of a horizontal hang time than vertical lift

and amazing body control for a guy who is 6’6" and 220 lbs and growing. Some scary spit.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 17, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tremendous read

Really good stuff. You can’t get this shit on ESPN. What exceptionally insightful stats. Just more conclusive evidence that Tyreke is a true phenom.

It’s been said plenty that Curry and Evans are different players with different skill sets, but I think this also highlights that Tyreke’s skill set is just plain better than Curry’s.
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by normo on Mar 18, 2010 1:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Traveling?

I watched this Kings/Lakers game with a few non-Kings fan buddies. It is impossible for Tyreke to do anything wrong in my eyes (especially since he hasn’t been dominating the ball as much as of late). However, my friends were both saying that the video is essentially showing a bunch of slow-motion missed traveling calls.

Does this have any validity? I don’t think Dwayne Wade or Manu have ever been called for traveling and his inside scoring is similar to those two. Does Tyreke technically travel when he takes those huge steps before laying it up?

by KeonClark on Mar 18, 2010 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

No he's not traveling

Your friends simply aren’t aware of the new NBA rules. The previous rules stated that player was allowed to take 1 and a half steps. As we all knew, the NBA never called the game that way, and so this year, they changed the rule to 2 steps. They weren’t changing the way they call the game, they were changing the rule book to accurately reflect how they call the game.

Here’s the link for your friends.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 18, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

That Euro Two Step that he does a lot for example

Is completely valid with the new rules. And the fact that he can make such long strides in those two steps can make it look like he’s traveling.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 18, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did anyone else see this?

Yesterday, I was at the gym and just caught the tail end of a “T-Mobile” question for Kenny Smith and Charles Barkley. It asks who the best PG is (among rookies) and lists several rookie PGs. Jennings, Curry, and Collision were among those listed (and a couple of others), while Tyreke Evans was not!!! Neither of these guys would say who they thought was the best among them, citing that it was too early to say. As I say, I missed the into to this question, so there may have been more to it. I couldn’t believe that Tyreke was not listed.

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by Slam_Dunk on Mar 19, 2010 8:55 AM PDT reply actions  

I didn't see it

But maybe they prefaced it by saying “other than Tyreke Evans” or something? Or maybe they are only talking about “true” PGs. Which would be kind of ridiculous, because Tyreke plays as a PG more often than not…

by Christina_J on Mar 19, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope you are right.

Otherwise, that would be a terrible oversight of Tyreke.

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by Slam_Dunk on Mar 19, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is pretty incredible

But I have to say, I find this part a bit disconcerting: “Another result of getting to the rim a lot is drawing fouls, something he’ll get even better at with more experience, and eventual ref bias.”

I don’t think it’s untrue, and is probably very likely to happen, but I HATE ref bias, even when it favors players/teams I’m a fan of. I know that it’s extremely unlikely that refs will ever be 100% impartial, but I just can’t stand the whole thought of “superstar calls” and the influence the refs can have on a game.

by Christina_J on Mar 19, 2010 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

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