Wesley Johnson?
With the Kings' recent wins - and don't get me wrong, I'm overjoyed to see our boys enjoying some success on the court- it seems we might be playing ourselves out of the top-5 picks. I checked DraftExpress, who as of today has us picking eighth.
DX has us picking Wesley Johnson, who I admit I know very little about, not having watched many Syracuse games. Looking over his review there, it seems that he's got some good qualities that we'd be looking for in a 2/3 swingman, namely the ability to catch and shoot, decent range, and good defensive chops.
Would you be satisfied with this pick, or would you prefer a second-tier big such as Greg Monroe or Patrick Patterson?
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I know pretty much nothing about any college players
but if it’s someone who would be equal to or an upgrade over Beno in our starting backcourt within a couple of years, then I think it fills just as big a need as another good frontcourt player (seeing as we have no real backup PG at this point).
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 8:47 PM PDT reply actions
I think we're getting close to the point
where we just take the best available player, and see if he can beat out the incumbent. We’ve got a lot of good, young talent, but besides Tyreke I don’t see any true All-Stars. Similar to what Portland did with Brandon Roy, I think it makes sense to go with quality players regardless of position, and see how things pan out.
But then, some of you were wise enough to advocate this the whole time. ;)
by misterbrister on Mar 17, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I would love Johnson at #8
He’s a top 5 player, in my opinion. My favorite player after Wall, Turner, Favors and Cousins.
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So in this draft we're going to be talking about Section's Johnson again?
Time to fire up the ’ol innuendo machine…
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by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
...
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In YOUR end-o.
/theTodd
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by Player To Be Named Later on Mar 18, 2010 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions
i dont want him
reminds me of donte greene too much (not that greene is bad)
but one donte greene on a team is enough
by Surprise Team on Mar 18, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
lanky tall 3 w/ range and not physical enough to play down low…couldn’t D up against 2’s in the NBA. I don’t like this guy as a top 5, even 8 pick, at least not for the Kings. They have Omri and Greene there.
I like the big man Cousins….could be another steal @ 4?
Dannyboy
he might be the BPA (and I ain't having this argument again 214)
But I don’t know how much of an improvement the Kings need at the 1 2 or 3 spots.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I see your point
Namely, that WJ isn’t much of an upgrade over Cisco or Donte?
by misterbrister on Mar 17, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
But if my choices at #8 came down to (for example) Johnson, Monroe, Aldrich, Aldrich, Whiteside, Davis, Patterson, and Udoh, I’m taking Johnson. Amass talent and then make deals to complete your team.
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Do you see Aldrich as a poor man's Spence?
I fear he is another body that will be a journeyman at best.
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by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 18, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Racist
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 18, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw him more as an Ostertag,
but bte drew a pretty good bead when he compared him to Pryzbilla. I think that Aldrich will be a 10-12 year NBA guy (barring injury), and he’ll help a team. But he’ll never get to an all star weekend, at least not without ponying up for his own airfaire.
Now, the Kings could definitely use a Pryz-type player, and I’m not against the Kings drafting him at 8-9-10 if he is deemed to be the best player left on the board at that time. But I sure wouldn’t pass on Wall/Turner/Favor/Cousins/Johnson to draft him.
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nice take
he kinda is like Ostertag, little less attitude tho. He brings no offense though and I don’t think he’d compliment Reke well as he’s not an elite finisher or crafty around the basket (ideally needs a C w/ real soft hands that bangs down low, Young Camby???).
dd
Dannyboy
DX says Aldrich can finish at the basket with authority
He thrive at drive & dish situations. Sounds perfect. I posted it if you scroll down a little farther
I love beating dead horses.
My bad I actually posted it on another thread
The thread comparing all the Aldrich, Monroe, & Whiteside I believe
I love beating dead horses.
I'm with you on your first 4
But I’d take Aldrich over Johnson.
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Devil's advocate
Seattle/OKC took Jeff Green 5th overall in 2007, ahead of “flashier” players like Yi, Brandon Wright, etc. He’s been a great all-around player for them, and seems to have a lot in common with Greg Monroe.
I wouldn’t be upset with Monroe, even though he has a lower upside.
by misterbrister on Mar 17, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Clearly you wanna argue you this more.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Nope
Not arguing, just stating my opinion in this thread.
By the way, it takes two to argue, though you might possibly be the exception to that rule. :)
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I just don't get how it makes the Kings better.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
How what makes the Kings better?
You arguing with everyone?
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Taking Wesley Johnson and then flipping him for a better big down the road.
Teams don’t even give borderline All-Stars away unless they are expensive head cases like Zach Randolph.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Agreed
And if you think that one of these big rookies (outside of Favors or Cousins) has borderline all star written all over him, you take him over Johnson. I don’t see that guy.
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Favors or Cousins
Yes. All-star potential. But not at #8.
by misterbrister on Mar 17, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't want Cousins either
But it’s not because of his headcase material. It’s because I don’t really see him being worth more to the Kings at any point than a player like Favors.
Keep in mind I think Favors is a truly rare player and might end up being the real gem of the draft.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
We all agree there, and I doubt he is around at 8.
Time for a Euro to slide in there. How about Donatus Motiejunas? Perhaps we trade down for either Xavier Henry at SG or take a flier on Solomon Alabi as a Defensive Stopper and opposite skillset of Spencer.
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by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 18, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
NO on Motiejunas.
NO NO NO NO.
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Are you sure?
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Favors and Cousins are 2 totaly different players
I could see each helping the Kings immensley…I like em both, more than Wall (since we already have Reke) and big talent is really hard to get. When you have a chance at a skilled non-white big, you take it.
Dannyboy
Chances are...
Favors will be gone, before the Kings have any chance of selecting him; however, Cousins may still be available.
Favors is probably a moot point, whereas, Cousins a possibility.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Talent makes us better
Now, if it is your opinion that there is better talent than Johnson when we pick, cool. But if you think that Johnson is the best talent available but you pass on him to fill a need, well that is a recipe for disaster when your are picking in the top 10, in my opinion.
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Yes I know.
This is where we differ. The Kings are a true difference making big away from contention. They are impossible to get unless you A) trade your whole team to get one or B) you draft high enough to get one.
It is what it is, but you’re not going to convince me that the Kings are going to make a magical leap in this area. Certainly Wesley Johnson is not a guy I would put all my eggs in one basket to be a top flight SF.
The only exception to this is if the Kings put Donte at the PF from now on. Than I can see the Johnson argument. Until then my favorite suburb Jewish friend, we’re going to be SOL.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
So who's your big in the 6th-10th range?
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Ed Davis or Greg Monroe honestly
Epke Udoh or Hassan Whiteside would be more to my liking. Whether he’s good enough remains to be seen though.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I like Davis to
And Udoh is my main dude. He’s my Thabeet
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Yep
We can ride the Udoh train. We’d lead the league in guys with Ud starting their last name.
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by Aykis16 on Mar 17, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh god here you go.....
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Mar 17, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Udrih to Udoka to Udoh!
B-ud-iful!
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by Aykis16 on Mar 17, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If Udoh-n't like that
Udoh-n’t lik Kings basketball!!
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
by edm7 on Mar 17, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 9 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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You must be feeling Ty-riiifffficcc tonight ed!
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If only we still had Hedo...
Hedo sets a screen for Udrih who drives the lane and dumps to Udoka who swings to Udoh, score! U don’t see that every day kids!
Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"
by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 18, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Ha
Good call
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
I think of him as one of the more expendable guys on the roster.
Although I suppose he has been a good influence on the young guys.
by misterbrister on Mar 17, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Just trying to keep the Ud troop together
But on a serious note I’d hope we keep him as a 12th man, though he deserves to go to a contender
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
He's probably earned a more prestigious spot somewhere else, don't you think?
From that Chicago game alone, probably.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Guys get what they get. No such things as deserved.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Or there is such thing as deserving
but it doesn’t necesarilly happen in this business?
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Those who can get do. Those who can't can't.
Human Beings practice Darwinism a lot more than we like to admit.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
We do. But unless you know another human race that is better, I guess we're kinda stuck with ourselves.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
The only other human race I know
Is the Peaches kind, but that one’s worse
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
That isn't the human race
That’s the step red-headed Long Island race of cynical pointless uber long in the tooth Peaches.
Thankfully there is only 1 left of that kind.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I hear ya
otherwise, Bobby J would be contributing on a contender this year, no?
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
B-Jax had nothing left. if you think he did, you're fooling yourself. He retired for a reason.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Then fool-me-up
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Had nothing left?
I strongly disagree. He is just as good as a Eddie House or JJ Barea. Just to name a few.
I love beating dead horses.
Maybe we could trade for Haslem to fill out our Ud portfolio a bit
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
He's expiring
We could pick him up.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Let's do it
Fill the roster with "Ud"s!!!
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Keep in mind that DX also had Willie Warren 3rd in their mock at the beginning of the year.
The only guys who’ve been in the top 5 are John Wall and Derrick Favors.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I remember that
Wondering what happened to him. He was a top 10 last year as well, obviously he didn’t declare then
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
He has sucked this year with Blake Griffin taking most of the attention
That’s what happened.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Yeah the top 5 were
Wall, Favors, Warren, Aldrich and Motiejunas. Only Aldrich hasn’t fallen out of the top 10.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That doesn't sound right...
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
What does?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Touché
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a good pool to pick from. Not a bad consolation prize
No matter who it is, I trust Petrie. It’s good that he has a lot of options too.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
agreed on Johnson if he's available....and especially the deals part...
Wondering if we could get Miami, Memphis, or OKC’s picks…
getting Udoh (apparently he’s this year’s Maynor) AND someone else…as “small” as Avery Bradley or as “big” as Whiteside….
After this past draft, Petrie deserves a pass…
Whiteside could be Kwame…..he could be Garnett….or something in between, which would still
be an upgrade at the 5 spot….
by getPGwithbounce on Mar 18, 2010 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Seriously though, at this point can we really go wrong with Petrie picking in the top 10?
My gut says Petrie will always pick the player that he likes best that’s still available, regardless of who’s already on the roster or whatever else. And history says it’s usually a damn good pick.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 9:00 PM PDT reply actions
DX has the following top-ten
Wall
Turner
Cousins
Favors
Aminu
Aldrich
Davis
Johnson
Monroe
Patterson
Aminu is the only guy I wouldn’t be pleased with, only because he strikes me as more of a project player than an immediate contributor.
by misterbrister on Mar 17, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
E.G.
Peja who?
And lest we forget, “who the hell is Jason Thompson?”
by misterbrister on Mar 17, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I think that's more true when we're talking the 11-30 range
but your general sentiment is absolutely correct.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Hedo Turkoglu was in the 40-50 range on most mock drafts
He’s probably the 2nd or 3rd best player in that entire draft.
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Agreed 100%
I will be on board with whomever Petrie selects.
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Hey Section check your e-mail.
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Uh oh the elites are conferring.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm surprised they're not communicating in some kind of coded language that we lay folk could never comprehend
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
"The eagle flies at midnight"
“My, that is a lovely bunch of coconuts.”
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Back off, buddy
I’m married.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Uh-oh
Someone didn’t say the magic word…
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Your wright
Hey Section check your e-mail Joe Kleine.
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That's better
but don’t call me Wright.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 17, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it possible to be depressed because of an email?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It's possible if you're Tom Zook
And your Aunt Mildred is still emailing you.
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I only wish I was that stupid (whomever Tom Zook is and whyever he's stupid).
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
He's your Hawaiian Hulu Vacation winner.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I don't watch TV. And if I did, I still wouldn't know.
I’m still laughing at the movie “The Professionals” with Lee Marvin and Burt Lancaster (among others).
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
He's on before every Kings game.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Go to http://www.mynbadraft.com/nba-draft-picks/9th-overall/90509/
One could argue trhe players chosen 10th in the last 15 drafts have been better than those chosen 7-9 on average..so In Petrie I trust
Brandon Jennings Italy Milwaukee
2008 Brook Lopez Stanford New Jersey
2007 Spencer Hawes Washington Sacramento
2006 Mouhamed Saer Sene Senegal Seattle
2005 Andrew Bynum UConn HSSr. LA Lakers
2002 Caron Butler UConn So. Miami
2001 Joe Johnson Arkansas So. Boston
1999 Jason Terry Arizona Sr. Atlanta
1998 Paul Pierce
"If my aunt had a set of nuts, she'd be my uncle"
No. Sam Prestigiacomo started with the Seattle Supersonics June 7 2007
The 2007 Draft was on June 28th, 2007 and he drafted at the #2 spot and traded to get the #5 spot which were Kevin Durant and Jeff Green. (Seattle also had the #1 pick which was sent to Houston (Hot Carl Landry) and the #35 pick (went to Boston, Glen Big Baby Davis).
2008 OKC gets #4 pick, Russell Westbrook and 2009 #3 James Harden. Again, great picks all, but getting 2007-09 #2, #5, #4 and #3. WoW!
by betweentheeyes on Mar 18, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I could have told you that without looking it up. LOL
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yes that is true but being a single dad
of three sons playimg sports requires the aid of the internet to keep facts in line, otherwise one sone would be at little league and the other would be going in for my colonoscopy if I had to keep it straight in my head
"If my aunt had a set of nuts, she'd be my uncle"
If that was your attempt at a witty putdown, you have a ways to go.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
No consolation prizes here...
I might have been spoiled due to the sucess of Tyreke but I would not be happy with a consolation price of Whiteside, Aldrich, Monroe or Udoh. The biggest glaring weakness is the desperate need of a big man and this draft has two solid ones. I think it is necessary to acquire either Cousins or Favors as those are two men that could definitely fit the bill. And that means we need a Top 4 pick. If we do not win the lottery I think we have to make a move to acquire one of those top 4 picks, even if that means packaging our first round pick with an asset (e.g. Donte, Omri, JT, or Hawes). I have no idea how the Kings are going to spend their money this offseason but i highly doubt we will be sucessful in luring a max type player here. D-Lee might be the best player the Kings have potential on signing and he might not be the best fit on this team anyways.
getting drafty in here
I’m just as curious to start wondering who we can add from the draft, because i truly believe that next year will be big for kings and one more magic trick by G.P. can certainly make a huge difference. but the problem is that right now we have no idea where we will be picking. maybe 8, maybe 1.
also, with the tourney just getting set to begin, we all know that a strong showing (or weak one) will drastically control the discussion on draft status. names are gonna shift around…A LOT. names are gonna pop and names are gonna drop
and lastly, as for W. johnson, ….i mean its true you draft best possible player, buuuut how many SF/SG hybrid players can one team have?
I don't know
The Pistons drafted Milicic over Wade because they had backcourt players – how did that work out for them? Portland didn’t “need” Michael Jordan.
I think that you draft for need with non-lottery draft picks. When you’re in the lottery, you get your hands on as much talent as you can, and then sort it out later. I think that the Martin/Landry deal proved that Petrie isn’t afraid to pull the trigger and move assets to address need.
My preference would be to have a viable big man available when we pick. The more likely scenario is that Johnson will be gone by the time we pick, as well as Wall, Turner, Cousins and Favors. At that point, you can probably make the argument that no remaining prospects clearly outshine the others. For example, if Aminu is not clearly better than the bigs left on the board, there is no reason to draft him.
I think that the issue here is that I think more highly of Johnson’s game than most of the folks around here, and that’s fine. I’m certainly no expert. But in my own little world, I have Johnson as the fifth and final player of the first level, and the second level begins after that.
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You're suggesting that other people might not be as impressed with your Johnson as you are?
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by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 18, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Be careful what you wish for.....
….you might just get it.
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thats true
by all means, if john wall or evan turner are still somehow open by our lottery pick, you’d better believe we’d take that
by Harrisonyaka on Mar 18, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnson is good...but what does he bring to this team?
It’s hard use him as trade bait if he doesn’t get to play. A swing rookie like that will get no time in front of Garcia/Donte or even Udrih. It’s a different story if you are talking a more elite player like Turner.
The NBA loves versatile swingmen. They always have great upside but usually end up being average at everything. We’re are already paying Garcia and I highly doubt Johnson will be as good as Garcia at least for the first 2 seasons.
We are hurting for size/rebounding/shotblocking and depending on team workouts Johnson might not even be the BPA. Aldrich would be a vanilla pick but he’s a big and banger (we all wish brockman was taller and could block shots right?).
SF's need not apply
cisco, donte, omri, (all set in the rotation); noch, ime, mcquirre, (up in the air, but on the roster), brockman, dorsey (smallish PF – even landry, whom i love at the 4 spot but still kind of fits that smallish PF dynamic),
just not seeing this spot as a hole in our roster. with out saying, in Petrie we trust-ALWAYS, but i’m hoping our draft spot and BPA turns up a player that actually fits a need as well…maybe i’m being greedy but hey why not??
Are you implying
That Brockman and Dorsey can play SF? I’ve only seen limited minutes of Dorsey, but there is no way that guy is mobile enough to guard SF’s on the perimeter.
by misterbrister on Mar 18, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Bottom line is we need a robin to our resident batman in Reke.
If were in the 8-12 range, and GP thinks Johnson or Henry has that kind of potential, you draft him plain and simple.
This next draft is going to be interesting, because outside of Favors & Cousins, perhaps Aldrich…there are a bunch of bigs that you don’t know what your getting. And my thought on that is, do any of them really give us something we don’t already have? Does Udoh or Davis bring something Landry/JT don’t? Whiteside could be a wildcard, but he could take a long time to develop if he develops into the Camby-esque type player at all.
Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
That just happened.
wes johnson
is the best guy we could get in the draft unless somehow jeremy tyler was eligible. i dont see there being any dominant low post scorers in this draft. i think we need to commit to tyreke at pg and build around him like the lakers built around magic. we need a good small forward to pair with him. wes johnson fits the bill perfectly and will slide right into the starting lineup. we can even go really big if we want with a lineup like tyreke-johnson-greene-thompson-hawes. thats 6’6", 6’7", 6’11", 6’11", 7’ for those of you counting at home with both players in our backcourt registering 7 foot wingspans.
by WiltonDeportes on Mar 19, 2010 11:45 AM PDT reply actions
the one downside to him that i see
is that hes going to be 23 by the start of the nba season
by WiltonDeportes on Mar 19, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Jeremy Tyler.
LOL.
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You brought up Jeremy Tyler in your argument.
Your argument is invalid.
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He should play in the D League next year
instead of trying to go back to Europe. I read somewhere that his agent wanted to get him on another European team but I think that’d be a mistake
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still
he has more potential than any bigs in this draft or the next one. i want to see more of derrick favors i guess, but my impression is that he isn’t skilled enough. favors and tyler are the only ones out there with the athleticism, height, and strength to be dominant (barring any players in college that we know lack fundamental skills).
by WiltonDeportes on Mar 20, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
to clarify
Aldrich lacks skills and some athleticism (but not a huge deal at his size)
Monroe lacks athleticism
Udoh lacks strength
Whiteside lacks strength
I know you can say strength can be worked on, but technically anything can be worked on. The coordination I see in Tyler is pretty damn rare for his size in my opinion.
by WiltonDeportes on Mar 20, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
In the lottery you go BPA wherever you pick
And fill in any gaps with Johnson.
But seriously, we’ll have a max amount of money to dole out this summer, if you get another stud rookie and our defensive rebounding is still shoddy, use that asset to get a great defensive rebounder whether via FA or trade. We have Thompson, Hawes, Greene and Casspi as potential sweetner with that cap space to make a deal for areal difference maker. IF Johnson’s the BPA you take him and look to move Greene or Casspi or Garcia etc, and nab a stud post defender/rebounder LIKE an Okafor.
Very good.
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