Aldrich vs Monroe vs Udoh vs Whiteside
by ucla06 on Mar 18, 2010 10:21 AM PDT
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It'd be great to have Wall, Turner, Cousins, or Favors but we only have an outside chance of getting in to the top five. These player's will be available from 5-10 most likely. For those of you who are with me in drafting the BPA who is a big, here's some stat comparisons to chew on. These are the names that seem to be popping up the most. 40min stats to try and make the comparisons as equal as possible.
Aldrich (21 y/o): banger, wide body, rebounds well, likely a low ceiling but can contribute now
17.0 pts, 55%fg, 68%ft, 14.1 rbs, 1.3 ast, 5.2blks, 2.0 to
Monroe (19 y/o): avg rebounder, worst shot blocker here, best passing big here but also the most turnovers,
18.6 pts, 51%fg, 65%ft, 11.0rbs, 4.2 asts, 1.8blks, 4.0 to
Udoh (22 y/o): lowest FG%, avg rebounder, good shot blocker, oldest player
15.5 pts, 48.7%fg, 68.7% ft, 11.3 rbs, 2.8 asts, 4.8blks, 2.8 to
Whiteside (20 y/o): hard to project from a small conference, elite shot blocker
19.5 pts, 52%fg, 60.4 ft%, 13.3 rbs, 0.4 asts, 8.0 blks, 2.8 to
My Pre-workout rank...
1. Aldrich: good idea of what you're getting here, solid value, I see a White Okafor w/ a better FT stroke
2. Whiteside: High Risk High Reward, could be a bust, but if he's good, Kings have their franchise center and the whole complexion of the defense changes.
3(tie). Monroe: Looks like Weber-lite w/ less hops, only 19 y/o, doesn't block many shoots...is he soft?
3.(tie) Udoh: Less offense than JT, already 22y/o, better shot blocking...may not be an upgrade over JT...
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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That would be my order as well
I’d prefer taking the risk on Whiteside over Monroe or Udoh. However, I could see Petrie taking Monroe
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Would you also include
Al-Farouq Aminu and Patrick Patterson in this discussion?
I'd consider Aminu
because I believe there is the possibility he could be a Josh Smith type power forward.
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Agreed
But I do not believe Patterson should be here. He tops out (IMO) as the 3rd option in a 3-man big rotation on a team wanting to get to the championships. We need a stud down low, not a rotational player.
by nobodyinparticular on Mar 18, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I forgot to add...
Aminu’s lack of a jump shot scares me. How many guys can we have who need to be at the rim to make a shot?
That’s why I almost hope we can get a guy like Xavier Henry—a big SG who has great range on his jumper.
by nobodyinparticular on Mar 18, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Xavier could be a option
Good catch and shoot player but that might be all he has.
I like Xavier as a SG next to Tyreke
I don’t think I’d take him with our pick if it’s in the 7-10 range. Maybe trade down/buy another pick?
This is my thought
Henry at #8 would likely be a fairly bad pick. But Henry at #16 would be a nice pick. He also has size to match Evans as opposed to other SG options who would conceivably negate a bit of the size edge that Reke brings to the table. The one thing the Kings seem to need most is a catch and shoot guy (apart from an enforcer/rebouder in the paint of course). That’s why Henry seems like a good fit for the Kings. If the Kings could perhaps find a way to fill both those holes through the draft (ala Cousins/Favors/Aldrich—or even Udoh/Whiteside/Alabi + Henry) that would be superb. If the Kings could get both Aldrich and Henry in the same draft, I would actually be okay with a draft of Aldrich.
by nobodyinparticular on Mar 18, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
A player is good or bad
doesn’t matter the pick
by elSAVinator on Mar 18, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
If Aldrich is actually a white Okafor, then I will take him
I just have a gut feeling that he won’t be able to perform on that level. Is he the center version of Adam Morrison?
by nobodyinparticular on Mar 18, 2010 12:27 PM PDT reply actions
man that might be the most damning comparison i've heard about Aldrich so far
…not necessarily off the mark, but any A-Mo comparison is quite telling :P
Doubt it.
You cant teach toughness or defense. He’s a better Joel Przybilla, and he’ll likely be one of the better rookies, but one of the players who won’t see too much increase in his game throughout his career. He’ll be consistent though. I’m thinking 14 points 11 boards 2 blocks a game.
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If Aldrich became Spencer Hawes-ish in terms of potential talent level
except flipping Hawes’ point-center, offensive abilities for defensive, rebounding abilities, I think I’d be happy. Of course, that all depends on where our pick lands in the draft….obviously later end of the top 10 I’d be happier than if that’s what we got out of the 5 spot.
Although I’d love to have a high-talent, all-star level big, I wouldn’t mind a blue collar, consistent double-digit-boards-two-blocks-a-game type center either….especially if Landry blossoms (or continues to blossom, rather) into a offensive post thread.
I would love to have a guy doing 14-11-2
Where do we sign him up!!
"If my aunt had a set of nuts, she'd be my uncle"
and that's what you'll get with Aldrich
the white Okafor sounds right, but where’s the upside …. is it really better to pair him with Hawes to play 20-24 min., or to roll the dice for more upside at another position?
It's not my favorite comparison for him
I have kind of blanked on past players to compare him to. I just feel he will be one of those players who does well at the collegiate level but is no better than a 7th or 8th man on a good team. The only thing that I have to go off of is that he just isn’t incredibly impressive when it comes to physical tools. And when he was supposed to come into this season and grow—dominating even more than last year, he stagnated. He actually got worse in FG%, FT%, Pts, Rebounds, and personal fouls. He got better at blocks and that’s about it.
That, in a nutshell, is what scares me—his lack of impressive physical gifts and his stagnation/regression at the college level.
by nobodyinparticular on Mar 18, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Kevin Love
People Sad Kevin Loves game would not work in the NBA because he is too slow, but he is doing pretty good!
"If my aunt had a set of nuts, she'd be my uncle"
Udoh's playing right now if anyones interested.
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Udohn't say?
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Mar 18, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Udoh's line today
9-16 FG, 2-4 line, for 20 pts, 13 boards, 5 assist, 2 steals, 2 blocks, 5 turnovers, 2 fouls
Yes, I have a crush
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
He is MUCH better offensively
than I had gathered from watching him in previous games. He has some nice moves in the post, can spot up for a jumper, and if he sees someone open or doesn’t have anything going for himself, he’s pretty good at passing out from the post.
He also altered a lot more shots than he blocked today.
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Whiteside
Without any hesitation. This kid is gonna climb draft boards faster than Brockman can pound pancakes. I don’t think there is any way he falls past 7.
If man is 5 and the devil is 6 than Eric Maynor is a freakin 19!
by Dastardly D on Mar 18, 2010 2:54 PM PDT reply actions
This guy is the Deandre Jordan
Of this years draft. He could slide to the bottom of the first round or even second. He is years away from contributing, older then people in his class, and makes Cousins look golden. He can hardly stay eligible as a freshmen! He will have many obstacles ahead of him as a pro an think he would be better suited on any team but the kings! No to Whiteside… Major bust potential
I agree and disagree
He is probably a few years away from contributing a lot of minutes in the NBA but he could definately play spot minutes backing up Hawes at C in his 1st couple years. And the Kings would be perfect for him because he doesn’t even need to play offense yet, we just need someone to patrol the paint and the numbers posted above (8 Blocks a game) show that he should be able to do this.
As to his age, who cares if he is older than people in his class? He is still only 20 years old! about the same age as Tyreke. As for the conference he plays in, that shouldn’t matter either as GP has shown in the past he likes to draft guys from small schools i.e. Kevin Martin and Jason Thompson.
Bottom Line, this guy has improved dramatically since the season started and there is no reason to think that he wont continue to do so.
If man is 5 and the devil is 6 than Eric Maynor is a freakin 19!
by Dastardly D on Mar 18, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
there's your upside
go for the guy with the highest ceiling … Whiteside
If the top 4 aren't an option, then I think I'd go with Whiteside
His upside (quicker Marcus Camby with a jumpshot) is higher than anyone in the draft outside of the top 4. This team desperately needs another impact player, so I’d rather swing for the fences and whiff than to just play it safe and draft another decent rotation player like Aldritch.
"Impact player"
that’s a good term!
We do need to come up with that kind of guy in this draft. Whiteside has his ????s but he also has better odds of being an impact player than quite a few of the names ranked above him.
I also think he could get some serious minutes on this King roster as a rookie. I was at the game on Sunday and Al Jefferson was having his way in the paint. If nothing else Whiteside could do some good things as a shot blocker and rebounder while learning to play in the NBA.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
I vote Udoh
so that everytime he makes a rookie mistake, we can all groan “U’Doh….”
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Not sure who I like but I like this about Aldrich from DX
Aldrich sets terrific screens and is a tremendous finisher around the paint in pick and roll situations and off simple drive and dish plays with his excellent length and solid leaping ability
I love beating dead horses.
Also this from DX about his defense
As a defender and rebounder is where Aldrich continues to shine as a highly effective and NBA-ready big man prospect, one who could likely already be seeing minutes in most teams’ frontcourt. He ranks as the 5th best rebounding prospect in college basketball on a per-minute basis, at over 14 per-40 pace adjusted, similar to last year. His size and length allows him to go well out of his area at times for offensive rebounds, and he does a fine job boxing out on the defensive glass as well, something that should translate very effectively to the NBA.
Defensively, Aldrich has terrific lower body strength which renders him extremely difficult to back down in the post. This makes him a very useful player to counter against the type of old-school back to the basket centers (Shaq, Yao, Marc Gasol, etc) that are still found in today’s NBA, something that many teams just don’t have. He uses his outstanding wingspan very effectively to contest shots in the paint, being very fundamentally sound in the way he gets his long arms right in his defender’s face to deny good looks at the basket.
Aldrich is a much better pick and roll defender than you might expect relative to most centers in his mold, as he does a tremendous job of stepping out, hedging screens and then recovering effectively, showing nice timing, solid effort and good fundamentals in the process. NBA coaches will love this part of his game, as it’s the thing that most big men tend to struggle with the most, especially early on in their careers. His lack of lateral quickness will get exposed from time to time in one on one situations, especially when forced to switch on the perimeter, but that shouldn’t be too much of an issue against most NBA centers.
Perhaps Aldrich’s biggest asset defensively revolves around his shot-blocking ability, where he yet again ranks in the top 5 amongst draft prospects, thanks to his terrific length and timing. He’s the type of shot-blocker who stays out of foul trouble, rarely goal-tends and usually keeps balls in-bounds on top of that, often showing the wherewithal to tip it to a teammate and ignite the fast break, which is a big plus.
I love beating dead horses.
I like these words a lot honestly
DX’s best case is a rich mans Prizbilla. That would fit this team perfect. He really sounds like everything we all wish Spencer would become. I would actually be very happy with that. OK my vote is in for Cole Aldrich.
I love beating dead horses.
I think worst case would be Scot Pollard
If the guy has motor, maybe we can dream of him as Brook Lopez- lite
by betweentheeyes on Mar 18, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
hmm...
Scot Pollard, yeah i could sort of see that. Scot without the charisma.
Brook Lopez though? That’s a dream alright. I just don’t think Aldrich has that kind of stuff.
Lopez is a stronger guy and than Aldrich and he has a longer (7’5") wingspan. Lopez has a really nice junp shot. Aldrich is a mess as a shooter.
I have to disagree with you here, bte. I don’t think the Kings can afford to spend a lottery pick on a guy who is more Scot Pollard than Brook Lopez.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
True, but there are a lot of picks in 7-10 who don't even make it to Pollard level
Aldrich is probably the most likely of this group to make it, but the least likely to get much better than he already is, in my mind. Solid, but unspectacular. Not sure how I feel about him, we’d end up with a Hawes/Aldrich offense/defense platoon
It's funny that the only comparisons people are making are other white guys
I’ve never watched him play but just going by what I read he seems more like a Haywood or Perkins type role player. Most of us would be ecstatic if we landed one of those guys. Here are some short summaries from hoopshype(I know, I know but DX analysis are too long)
Brendan Haywood was the 20th pick in the draft
Very good body frame, good rebounding & shotblocking, has polished his offensive game a little bit, doesn’t have great hands, has problems grabbing some passes, more consistent than he used to be
This actually makes Aldrich sound better
Now Perkins 27th pick
An enforcer for the Celtics, good body frame, big hands, plays very hard & sometimes boarderline dirty, very good fighting for position down low, just an average athlete, excellent role player
Aldrich kind of sounds like a lot of both of those guys. If that’s what he is bringing I say draft him now. There are only a few sure fire future all-stars here & they are going 1-5. I’m all for drafting bpa but if the bpa is only going to be a good player to maybe an all-star if he is on a good playoff team like a Josh Howard or Caron Butler I would rather have a very good roll playing center. Those guys are just hard to come by. I mean you have teams that are dying to have Marcin freakin Gortat. Are you serious?
I love beating dead horses.
which is why when a player is white and can shoot the 3
he must be compared to Larry Bird
by Pollard4LIfe on Mar 20, 2010 4:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Point taken, although I'm not sure
that Brook Lopez would label himself a “white guy”. His father was a Hispanic man born in Cuba.
When race and ethnicity enter the conversation things are seldom as simple as they’re made out to be.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
I love how DX describes his shot-blocking
In that he avoids fouling, has good timing on blocks, and when he does make a block he keeps the ball in-bounds. Everyone loves to watch a ball swatted into the stands, but I much prefer a guy who can block a shot and give himself and his team a chance to pull down the failed shot attempt.
I admit I have not seen much of Aldrich this year, but if I keep seeing his defense described this way, I’d be happy with him as our pick. His defense sounds almost Duncan-esque…relying on length, good instinct, and timing on the jump, rather than sheer athleticism in the post.
Udoh and Whiteside fascinate me.
and to my mind Ekpe Udoh is the most complete of the players on this list, offensively and defensively. He’s got NBA athletic skills, he’s a guy who can run, who can play very comfortably with his back to the basket, and score from inside 18 feet or so. Excellent rebounder, really long arms. He’s been playing lights out for weeks now, and as you can see from that march Madness box score, he can dominate a game at the college level.
Whiteside would seem to have even more upside, with tremendous raw athletic talent. He truly is a Marcus Camby type, physically. You almost never see a player shoot up thew mock draft boards at the rate Whiteside has. But as several have mentioned, his downside is nothing to sneeze at either. However, to compare his attitude with Cousins is missing somnething very important. Whiteside may have maturity issues but he has not attcked anybody on or off the court as the stories about Cousins assert, nor is he on “heavy meds” as one NBA scout claimed about Cousins. We can make of all this as we wish but Whiteside is not anywhere in the same ballp[ark as Cousins when it comes to train-wreck potential.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
I'm not sure that Petrie likes "upside" guys
When was the last time he picked one? Tyreke, JT, & Spencer were all NBA ready players. Of course they all had room to grow but they all stepped in & played when the opportunity was given. He could have chosen guys with possibly more upside like Anthony Randolph, Brandon Jennings, or Steph Curry.
I love beating dead horses.
I dont like upside guys either.
Reke has much upside though if I’m asked.
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I meant upside as the only reason you draft a guy
Tyreke has upside but dominated other gaurds in his workout thus making him seem more NBA ready
I love beating dead horses.
G Wallace, Turkoglu and Peja
were all upside guys, not highly rated by most teams … JT was similar.
For that kind of pick, GP might not take “the best big” and might go for player like X Henry
Quincy Douby?
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Doubly was not considered an upside guy
He just failed when he got here, he was a prolific scorer in college.
"If my aunt had a set of nuts, she'd be my uncle"
Douby really had all the tools to be a Monta Ellis type scorer
He supposedly dominated in practice but had a terrible case of stage fright when he hit the court. It’s really sad honestly. For him of course more than us. It’s like a person with golden pipes that just can’t sing on a big stage. Even a change of scenery couldn’t help him.
I love beating dead horses.
I definetly overstated the comparison between Cousins and Whiteside but the fact is Whiteside has major maturity issues, like Cousins. I would pass on Whiteside in favor of Aldrich, W. Johnson or Aminu
Wesley Johnson is a good prospect.
I’m gonna study his game a bit more. Aminu too.
Aldrich, I know he’s a really good college player and all that, but he seems so limited to me in terms of his NBA potential that I just can’t get excited about the Kings drafting him.
To become legit contenders I think the Kings need at least one, (and more likely two) more match-up nightmares on the roster. I don’t want the Kings to be drafting this high again for a long time, so we need to hit another jackpot.
I just can’t picture Aldrich ever being more than somewhere between “solid” and “role player”.
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
My point of view on Aldrich is there just aren't a lot of those super centers that exist
A team should feel lucky to have a super solid center. No one would ever call Brendan Haywood or Kendrick Perkins an all-star but those guys do extremely important things that help teams win. Most of us would love to have one of those guys. You need to have a defensive guy & a low post scorer. It’s very rare nowadays when teams have both in one like a Dwight Howard. Landry as a scoring threat & Aldrich as a defensive guy would make me personally a lot happier than a project that can’t even get off the bench who “might” be good one day.
I would take another sf only if they can step in & be better than what we have. Omri is pretty damn good in his rookie year & was very consistent. He just ran out of gas. Donte has shown great flashes but is wildly inconsistent. So if bpa is Johnson & he can step in & be better than Omri then I’m all for it I guess.
I love beating dead horses.
Great Points
I especially agree with the point that most of us would love to have a Kendrick Perkins or Brendon Haywood. A solid defender with good basketball iq and some toughness will bring more to the team than a 2 or 3 that can score 14-16 per night with 3-4 boards. So the question really is the BPA available or BPA that helps the team win.
I would argue that adding an Aldrich, Patterson, Davis may not be a sgood as a Johnson but would help us more than he would.
"If my aunt had a set of nuts, she'd be my uncle"
Thanks, for example
Perkins was taken 27th in the 2003 draft a few wing players taken ahead of him were Mikael Pietrus(11), Boris Diaw(21), Travis Outlaw(23). Now who helps their team more? Johnson’s worst case just happens to be Travis Outlaw. Best case is Shawn Marion but Marion was a very good perimeter defender & Johnson’s defense is questionable because Syracuse only plays zone. He might end up having to learn to play defense like Donte.
Another example is Haywood was drafted 20th in the 2001 NBA draft
A few wings taken ahead of him were Shane Battier(6) & Richard Jefferson(13) This one is a little tougher but wings like these 2 are a dime a dozen. If we really wanted to we could draft Aldrich & try to sign Rudy Gay to a front loaded contract leaving a little future money to sign some of our young guys in a few years.
I love beating dead horses.
IMO Haywood is not more valuable than Battier.
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What I like most about Udoh
is that he’s a fluid big man. What I mean is that his movements seems smooth and not forced or awkward. I was watching the big man for St Mary for example and that dude looked REALLY awkward. You can see Udoh’s athleticism through the way he runs the floor and just the way he moves. I think the Kings could use some of that.
From what I’ve seen he’s also able to do many things on the floor. He can rebound and blcok shots. He can score from different spots (back to the basket, facing up, and even has some decent range). He can also put it on the floor, handle the rock and pass. Not saying he’s really good at all those, but I think he’s fairly well rounded. Haven’t seen enough D from him so I don’t have an opinion on that.
I’m not saying that we look at him in the 1-6 range, but from 7 on I think he’s in play wth others like Alridch, Davis, and Whiteside.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
This x infinity
“What I like most about Udoh is that he’s a fluid big man”
This was the EXACT thought that came to mind when I was watching him play. It’s incredible. Even with the more agile big men, you still get to hear the thud of their feet when they try to run up and down the court. It’s like watching Vladimir Guerrero try to run. It hurts your knees, ankles, back and feet simply by watching them run. The court shivers beneath their steps.
In the case of Udoh, I had to pay very close attention to the game because if I looked away for a second, it could take me minutes to find him on the court again (streaming atdhe.net). Why? Because he looks like a wing when he moves. He is SOOOOO fluid—not in the least bit awkward. For a man of his stature, that is incredibly impressive. That would also bode well for his future health IMO (think the polar opposite of Greg Oden in terms of the way he moves).
by nobodyinparticular on Mar 19, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Udoh is very solid
but don’t know that he’s worth top 10 pick
Also, please let's stay away from C-Webb cpmparisons.
This is the second time I’ve seen this and, with all respect, it’s absurdly off the mark.
And I want to say that I like Monroe quite a bit. I’ve been praising him since last season here in Sactown.
But the fact is that Chris Webber was arguably the most naturally gifted big man of his generation. As I’ve reminded readers before, C-Webb was an freak, a hoops prodigy, a kid who every scout knew had NBA All Star potential when he was only 15 or 16 years old.
When it comes to quickness, hops, footwork, passing ability, ball handling, running ability, length, and a whole bunch of other NBA-type physical skills C-Webb was sooooo far beyond anything Greg Monroe could dream of right now.
Webber was a no-brainer #1 overall pick and the NBA Rookie of the Year, and believe me, if there was a player in this year’s draft with his physical ability we wouldn’t be talking about John Wall as the #1 pick.
Greg Monroe is a fairly talented kid with pretty good size, a hard worker who is making the most out of his abilities. That’s great but “Webber-lite” he ain’t
"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)
by Mucho Moss on Mar 18, 2010 8:53 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Forgot to add Ed Davis into this conversation. I would take him over anyone listed (other than the 4 top prospects).
I vote for
everyone GP decides to pick.
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
man....Udoh is the next Maynor
Udoh won’t and shouldn’t go that high….
but if you can take that 6th-8th pick (assume Favors isn’t available) and turn it into 2 1st rd picks from Memphis, Miami, and OKC…I’d consider Udoh AND someone else….
by getPGwithbounce on Mar 20, 2010 12:57 AM PDT reply actions
I like the trade down idea.
Then we could grab Xavier Henry as well to pair with ’Reke.
by madmavmathews on Mar 20, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
now you're talking ...
but do we need another 2 young players to add to core of 5 very young players + Landry ….
Udoh & Henry look good on paper, but we’re just carrying too many bodies …. 2/3 deep at every position.
maybe better to trade up and get the top 5 player we want? or take the player we want regardless of draft slot (Henry at #8 even if we think he’ll be there at 12)
Trading up is interesting
What would we have to throw in? I just know if we get anywhere from 5-9 we need to trade up or trade down. We don’t want to be lukewarm.
by madmavmathews on Mar 23, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Trading up is very hard to do. Geoff Petrie has also never traded down in the 1st round since he's been GM of the Kings.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
This
Trading down is always tossed around, but at the end of the day Petrie is going to pick the guy that he likes the most. Case in point – When he drafted Thompson with the #12 pick, the conventional “wisdom” is that GP could have traded down if that was JT was his man…until it was later discovered that Golden State (picking 14th) had a real interest in Thompson.
The most likely scenario is that Petrie finds the guy that he likes and drafts him with the pick that we are dealt, conventional wisdom be damned.
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That's an accurate description of GP.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I appreciate the insight from the STR veterans....
So Petrie doesn’t like “upside types” (Davis and Whiteside) and has no history of trading down? And with the Kings luck, it’ll be the 8th pick. Aldrich, Monroe, and Udoh? Here’s hoping for first times….
I watched Baylor v Duke…and thought of Udoh being a little bit JT and a little bit Hilton Armstrong…do the Kings need more “fluidity” on the frontline?
by getPGwithbounce on Mar 29, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions
For thos paying attention to the madness
Alridch and Kansas are on at 2.40 PT
Udoh and Baylor on at 2.50 PT
Wall, Cousins, and the Wildcats play Aminou and Wake Forest at 5.20 PT
Just in case someone doesn’t know, cbs has an online feed where you can pick the game you want to watch. For the Kansas and Baylor games I’m going to have one on my TV and one on my PC.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Wait...
CBS Sports? Or CBS? Can you link it?
by nobodyinparticular on Mar 20, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Go online and find it.
The broadcasts are free online.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
And Wake vs. UK will be FUN!
3 top 10 picks there. Maybe 4 with Patterson.
by nobodyinparticular on Mar 20, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The Wildcats are destroying Wake Forest
Up 30 points with 9 minutes left
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
hmmm, I can't find it
and Favors? does he look Kings worthy?
by betweentheeyes on Mar 20, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Easier way t find it
Go to ESPN, go to scores for college ball and click on the ‘watch’ link. That’ll take you to the cbs feed. Then just choosse the Kentucky game
And I think you meant Cousins, and he’s looking damn good. Still crazy though
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
yes and not yes
thanks for the tip Ed.
I meant Al-Farouq Aminu
by betweentheeyes on Mar 20, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't impressed with Aminu today
But Kentucky did a pretty good job on him. He’s going to have a big adjustment period in the NBA I think, getting used to players that are quicker and more athletic than collegiates, but he’ll end up being pretty good when he’s able to realize his freak athleticism.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
he has been on the radar for two seasons now
Dx has him best case Josh Smith, worst case Thaddeus Young. That is pretty impressive.
by betweentheeyes on Mar 21, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
He'll need to learn to shoot
that’s for sure.
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the foul trouble limited him early
…and UK had no shortage of talented bigs to throw at him…Cousins, Patterson, and/or Daniel Orton (who even as a freshman is a very good post defender…better than Cousins) were in (I believe) during all minutes Aminu was in.
Aminu did make a couple crazy circus shots near the rim…although I wonder if they were really “circusy” or if it’s also his skill showing a bit?
My choice
1)Favors
2)Whiteside
3)Cousins
4)Udoh
5)Aldrich
On top of our pick Id like to see if we could trade Spence and next years first to try and snag Oden from the Blazers. Maybe we take a chance he plays his career out injury-free?
Its just an idea
Maybe the blazers FO sees something in him we don’t see. They might want a high post player that can facilitate their slower-paced half court sets. :)
by madmavmathews on Mar 21, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
no no no
Guy misses 2 out of his first 3 years. We’ve had our fair share of big men with health problems.
Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
That just happened.
He's played 82 games in his first three years in the league.
So yeah i agree. Stupid idea.
by madmavmathews on Mar 22, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
How about we pass taking these kind of chances?
Maybe we take a chance he plays his career out injury-free?
Because, if we are wrong and take on someone who doesn’t play because of injuries then:
1. We lose out on him to take Spencer’s position
2. We are stuck with paying him and may no longer have the salary cap to get someone else
3. We can’t trade him, because nobody wants him.
Why take on that kind of risk, when there are other healthy players?
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Okay I see what you mean.
I was just thinking out loud. But I think Spencer for Oden straight up would be worth the risk if he is on his rookie deal. (Is he?)
by madmavmathews on Mar 22, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
No problem thinking out loud.
That is what brainstorming is all about. Allow your creative mind to release ideas into the universe…
If all things went Oden’s way, he could be a great addition.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Portland would say no to that trade before Sacramento
Personally, I’d trade Spencer and a future first for Oden if the doctor’s gave him the OK.
Yeah
I hope the best for him no matter where he’s at.
by madmavmathews on Mar 23, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks,
and that was my thinking, he could be great for the team. Or any team if healthy, and out of foul trouble.
by madmavmathews on Mar 23, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
We need to pick someone
who has a chance to be a Star
(again)
If we can’t get one of the the top two big guys we desperately need a ‘goaltender’, even if its off the bench.
That seems like Whiteside to me.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Or Udoh.
Aldrich also.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Whiteside is probably my favorite
his upside as a defender seems unlimited. I haven’t heard anything about his work ethic though.
by madmavmathews on Mar 23, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
hmmm
Seemingly lots of guys who can defend the rim in the draft, yet Kings haven’t had that type of player for 10 years.
The tricky part
is picking the right one.
by madmavmathews on Mar 23, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
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