Tyreke Evans Out With a Concussion and Potentially Fractured Jaw
by Ziller on Mar 20, 2010 7:31 AM PDT
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If you watch the game against the Bucks, you know that Tyreke Evans left the game in crunch time with a badly lacerated gum, a concussion and a potentially fractured jaw. The Bee's Jason Jones reports Evans will not travel with the team to L.A. for Sunday's game against the Clippers, and will have the head and jaw checked out today.
Ersan Ilyasova was fighting with Carl Landry and Evans for a key rebound late when Ilyasova's elbow popped Reke in the face. It's not clear whether the elbow's impact caused the concussion, or whether it was the subsequent hard fall to the ground. It clearly wasn't a dirty play, but it looked painful as hell.
There are almost four weeks left in the regular season. The last King to suffer a fractured jaw was Shareef Abdur-Rahim, who chose to have it wired shut over surgery. He played about 10 days after the injury ... with his mouth wired shut. But the Kings were in a playoff chase at the time, in 2005-06, just before the Ron Artest-Peja Stojakovic game.
Abdur-Rahim did not suffer a concussion with that blow (a dirty Zach Randolph elbow), though. Concussions are far trickier to deal with. Ask Gerald Wallace.
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Let's be careful with our franchise player
no need to rush back and risk re-injury for a losing season. He can come back for the last game and beat L.A. if he likes though. Otherwise, it’s lotto time.
by sac_faithful on Mar 20, 2010 7:59 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
yep
if he’s gotta sit the rest of the year, so be it. I hope that it’s not a fractured jaw though, for his sake.
by what_the_crap on Mar 20, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Tyreke matters more than the game.
The evidence? This post is up before the game review.
Get better Reke, no reason to rush back – you’ve exceeded every expectation this season.
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Better take it slow
I was at the game and couldn’t really see anything more than a crush of bodies… The recording definitely showed the elbow to the head, but there was no impact with the floor and head. Good news there.
I really hope they assess him well before letting him come back. He can show no symptoms at 10 days post, but can have longer-term effects that should be watched. They need to let him really rest.
intense physical activity appeared to slow their recovery and even exacerbated their symptoms.
"By continuing with high levels of activity, they began to exhibit similar symptoms to those who initially experienced a more severe concussion,"
The study data reflect a general trend showing lower visual memory and reaction scores during the month following the injury among athletes who returned to their sports quickly after a concussion.
"Given the health issues associated with concussion, which may last longer than once thought, the decision on when and how to return an athlete not only to the playing field, but also to normal day-to-day activity, has begun receiving attention as a national health issue,"
Interesting quote from Harper's Twitter
According to photographer that got pics of the Evans injury, Illyasova nailed him with the elbow and was growling. Weird.
www.mancancook.net
Actually in watching the recording it looked, to me, like he put a bit of extra umph on the contact...
by MustangMBS on Mar 20, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do you have a video
Can you post it please?
This could put a different light on the whole tanking issue, if Tyreke is out for the remainder of the season.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I hope Reke picks up a tech if he plays with a wired jaw.
That would be amazing!
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Deja vu?
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Or ReefRekey Vu!
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
My guess is he's out through the road trip
I honestly don’t want him to screw around with a concussion. Luckily, it doesn’t seem the concussion has anything to do with his play style and being knocked to the ground, but more to do with Ilyasova’s elbow. Glad we don’t have to worry too much about him turning into another Gerald Wallace and racking up the concussions. However, it’s still not something to mess with.
www.mancancook.net
Evans took a mean elbow
from Ilyasova that caused the injuries. Then just a minute or so later, the Kings were AGAIN whistled for a foul while Ilyasova was swinging those elbows forcefully. I think the league needs to review BOTH incidents and potentially levy a fine against Ersan(as well as Ibaka). As that type of play is just inexcusable.
That goon pissed me off
worse was the refs did nothing about it.
It was a nasty hit.
When I was first watching it, the thing that scared me most was his knee making contact with the floor. I couldn’t initially see how hard he’d gotten hit in the head.
Let’s rest him up, no reason to rush back for the tail-end of a lottery season. Although I am a little bummed since I have tickets to tomorrow’s game at Staples Center. Ah well.
A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...
The Kings are 0-1
when it’s StR night in the year 2010 and when Tyreke gets a concussion. We’re screwed!!
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by edm7 on Mar 20, 2010 10:08 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Not that I wish for Reke to be out the rest of the season but
-We have no reason to rush him back
-Now losing will not be as much as a chemistry issue and more of a ‘our best player is out’ issue.
-More losing = more ping pong balls
If the way a season is finished carries over to the next season, a losing streak as the result of injury should not affect morale and the team will still be on the right track(mentally).
This body holding me, reminds me of my own mortality, embrace this moment, remember, we are eternal, all this pain is an illusion-MJKeenan
Let me guess...
You were already in favor of tanking before Tyreke was injured?
If Tyreke is out for the rest of the season, I’m sure this will be the number one reason to tank, to put Kings into a better position for the lottery. No doubt, every time Kings lose a game we will be hearing, “We would have won that game, if Tyreke was playing.” Already, people are making the argument that Kings would have won last night’s game, but for Tyreke being injured.
If the way a season is finished carries over to the next season, a losing streak as the result of injury should not affect morale and the team will still be on the right track (mentally).
I don’t agree with this. I think a losing streak at the end of the season will affect morale. I have a feeling that the other players on the team would like to think that they can win a game without Tyreke. Losing will affect morale with or without Tyreke.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
this.
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--Daisy Owl
First of all I'm never in favor of tanking
Second, if it is a byproduct of his injury than so be it. Look at it positively.
Third, if this team went on a losing streak with Tyreke, the wheels would be coming off the wagon by the end of the season. Now if Tyreke’s injury makes them struggle it’s not going to create the same stir that a losing streak would otherwise. We are going to lose more games without Reke than with and there’s no hiding that. The players know it, Tyreke knows it and you know it.
This body holding me, reminds me of my own mortality, embrace this moment, remember, we are eternal, all this pain is an illusion-MJKeenan
You're not endorsing tanking? Really?
More losing = more ping pong balls
This sounds like an endorsement for losing, to me.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
He's not endorsing losing
He’s pointing out that losing without Tyreke Evans is very different than losing WITH Tyreke Evans.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
By pointing out the benefits of more ping pong balls.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I understand that
But pointing out the benefits of losing doesn’t mean he agrees with it.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Why bother pointing out the benefits?
If you don’t agree with something, then you would point out things to support your position, not the other way around.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Nothing in this world is black and white
I don’t want the team to lose a game ever. But they will, and they will lose more without Reke. Get over it. Accept it. Hope he is ready to come back quickly. And take the aftermath as a positive or don’t I really don’t care.
This body holding me, reminds me of my own mortality, embrace this moment, remember, we are eternal, all this pain is an illusion-MJKeenan
What kangsfan said.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That you are not black or white?
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Dude, you can take it however you want
but I’ll be trying to look at this positively. Whether it’s good or not, the inevitable sans-Tyreke losses will mean a better shot a high draft slot.
This body holding me, reminds me of my own mortality, embrace this moment, remember, we are eternal, all this pain is an illusion-MJKeenan
Welcome to the gray zone!
I guess you spoke a little too soon since the “inevitable sans-Tyreke” didn’t pan out as you assumed that it would. Everything in this world isn’t “black or white.” So, I guess your positive outlook of getting a “better shot at the high draft slot” isn’t going to play out as you predicted. But, that will be okay, since you say you didn’t want that anyway.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
If he doesn't come back this year
does anybody know if his stats qualify…I know its close
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
Nevr mind
He needs 70 games……Crap
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
He should still win RoY.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Oh and Reke-O-meter's down till he comes back.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Here's a little more
If he plays those 6 games he needs 104 pointgs (17.4) and 19 RBs (3.2)
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
He needs to be back by April 3
to qualify for 20 5 and 5.
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
Do you have a link or source for any of this information?
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Here
anf if that doesn’t wotrk here http://www.nba.com/leader_requirements.html
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
You missed this part:
*MINIMUMS FOR NBA ROOKIE LEADERS
(half of the overall-requirement)
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Not that ir matters now since Reke will be back soon enough to get 6 more games
but I don’t think they would apply Rookie standards to the 20 5 and 5 plateau
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
pardon my double posting
a complex pathophysiological process affecting the brain, induced by traumatic biomechanical forces. NeuroSurigcal Focus concussion typically involves temporary impairment of neurological function which quickly resolves by itself, and that neuroimaging normally shows no gross structural changes to the brain as the result of the condition
No full medical concensus on the definition of the term concussion, this is about the most vague and therefore about the most widely used.
I hope the kid is alright. I remember SAR’s broken jaw as there was concern that he was coming off of Ramadan and nutrition was a concern anyway as he was observant of his religion and had to have his meals through a straw.
by betweentheeyes on Mar 20, 2010 10:54 AM PDT reply actions
Good post.
I find it interesting that medical staff came to the conclusion that Tyreke suffered a concussion. He did not lose consciousness and he was up walking around and talking right after it happened. He had not seen medical personnel to have his jaw evaluated as to whether it was broken. I wonder what the concussion conclusion was based upon?
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Thanks.
I am aware of that fact. Vomiting is also.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
not to be argumentative
from Mayo Clinic:
Signs and symptoms of a concussion may include:
■Confusion
■Amnesia
■Headache
■Dizziness
■Ringing in the ears
■Nausea or vomiting
■Slurred speech
■Fatigue
Some symptoms of concussions are not apparent until hours or days later. They include:
■Memory or concentration problems
■Sensitivity to light and noise
■Sleep disturbances
■Irritability
■Depression
and then there is post concussive syndrome to consider.
Hmmm, on review, those same symptoms could be applied to Noce when he goes out for a drive….
by betweentheeyes on Mar 20, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Dizziness, confusion, slurred speech, memory problems, sensitivity to light vomiting
Are you sure those arent signs of a good night drinking?
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Mar 20, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You didn't go down far enough on the page
When to see a doctor:
While most concussions get better on their own, some blows to the head can cause more-serious injuries. Seek medical advice if you have any of the following symptoms:
* Prolonged headache or dizziness
* Vision or eye disturbances, including pupils that are bigger than normal (dilated pupils) or pupils of unequal sizes
* Nausea or vomiting
* Impaired balance
* Prolonged memory loss
* Ringing in the ears
* Loss of smell or taste
I really hope Tyreke gets alright
But if this injury causes him to sit the rest of the season and he doesn’t win RoY, its a travesty.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
RoY award isn't going to help the Kings win any more games next year
that’s all I care about
by Pollard4LIfe on Mar 20, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
It is a great honor that will follow Tyreke the rest of his career.
It is debatable as to whether it could help the Kings win more games. Not only does Tyreke benefit from the title of ROY, but the team reaps some benefits as well. It could increase the number of fans attending games, consequently more money coming into the franchise. This could play a factor as to money spent acquiring future players, or not dumping current ones. It also could influence players to come to Sacramento to play with a Rookie of the Year. IMHO, it is a big deal.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Deliberate
That hit to Tyreke’s jaw looked intentional. He extended his elbow after the initial impact. If Tyreke has a concussion, I hope the NBA takes action against the douche.
He was throwing elbows all game too
He did it the next play as well where we got called on the foul.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I am
Did you see how he tied the game? Unbelievable.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
that was no accident
there is no way that was an inadvertent elbow…
he definitely extended his elbow, theres no place for that in this game
by Surprise Team on Mar 20, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't watch Brockman and Casspi play
Players throw elbows. I didn’t think Ilyasova’s was intentional.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
The extension of it was intentional.
You can clearly see that the force applied increase after contact. So, you are correct in that the elbow was probably not intentional at first, but after that he clearly applied more force.
Confirming
I just now watched it for the fourth and fifth time. He clearly shoved really hard after making contact.
This is really not OK and hurt Tyreke. This guy needs to be suspended a game!
If Casspi and Brockman hurt someone like that, they should be suspended too.
Watch the replay- Ersan was looking right at Tyreke, used his left arm to hold onto the ball and his right arm to throw right into Tyreke’s face. That was dirty.
upon further review, I'm still not sure..
Ersan did two things: 1) elbowed Tyreke, then 2) shoved Tyreke away with his right arm.
While it’s clear that Ersan shoved Tyreke away on purpose while coming down, the initial elbow to the face was by far the greatest impact (and the sole cause of the injury)- at that point Ersan might really have been innocently going for the rebound.
brockman and casspi are different
ilyasova had rebounded the ball with two hands, then took one hand away for the sole purpose of clearing out anyone in his area (which is alright to me)
what bothered me is that he clearly extended his elbow to try and get as much contact as possible
by Surprise Team on Mar 20, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would anyone have a problem if fans like the idea of a better lottery pick???
The only concern is Reke. I hope he comes back soon, and more importantly, that he is OK in the long term. I don’t mind the Kings getting losses while Reke is out, and don’t think it will effect the team for next season at all. Getting a top 4 pick may speed up the playoff process by a year or so. The Kings could get their Westbrook to go with their Durant (Reke).
So, get better Reke. If Kings lose in the meantime, no problem.
Oh yeah
Totally agree, this kinda gives us an excuse for us to start tanking….lol it’s not really tanking if you lose when you play, your hardest…but still, not having Reke, takes away any chance of a win (unless it’s NJ) So lets just let Reke sit the rest of the season, maybe work on his Jumper? IDK,
A line up of
Reke/Beno
Terner/Garcia
Greene/Casspi
Laundry/ Ness Monster
JT/ Hawes
by shadowchicken on Mar 20, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Flagrant - should be a suspension
I just reviewed the play again and it is clear that more force was applied after the initial contact. It seems clear that this should be a flagrant 2. I submitted a complaint requesting review of the play and player suspension.
Anybody else so inclined here is the link.
If Evans doesn't play enough to qualify for ROY,
does that mean that he is still considered a rookie next year? I know that the answer is no – just trying to make a point. If Evans does not play enough to qualify for the award, then how is he different than Blake Griffin?
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If that's the case they might as well posthumously remove Brandon Roy's ROTY.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Excellent point
57 games played for Roy that year.
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by section214 on Mar 20, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet
But Tyreke didn’t fracture his jaw and has a “mild” concussion. I don’t know much about concussions (though I probably will next year, with the neuro classes I’ll have to take for my major) but much better for it to be mild than severe. I hope he gets better soon, though I don’t think there’s any reason for him to rush back. If he can play again this season, great. If not, that’s OK too. I just hope it doesn’t affect his ROY status.
there is also the concern about post concussive syndrome aka shell shock
and these symptoms may present days.weeks, months or even years later. As such, there is controversy: No definition of PCS is accepted by all health professionals, and doubt exists about the validity of the diagnosis (source wikipedia.com and post-concussion-syndrome.com)
Fortunately, we here at StR may have a source from which to access reference. edm7 not only sat next to PookeyGuru at STR I but also received some exposure to the excessive jarring and blast like force of PG, though only a minimal amount (larger doses have been known to be lethal). It may explain some of Ed’s more recent comments. If Tyreke’s play follows the path of Ed’s comments the future of the franchise may be doomed.
Oh well, maybe the Kings can make up for it with this year’s draft.
by betweentheeyes on Mar 20, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Ed is fine
The only difference is that Ed now likes to talk in the third person. Ed is still smarter than Pookey, at least at being a human.
Hello
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I saw Ed last night
he seemed human but I am notoriously bad at figuring out clones and pod people
by betweentheeyes on Mar 20, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I will have you know I stopped being a pod person in 2003
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
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There's a fanshot on this that Aykis posted about 6 hours ago
And it has 143 comments on it. In fact, it’s on the top of the front page.
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