Rookie of the Year Rant
by kingme18 on Mar 21, 2010 8:10 AM PDT
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There should absolutely be no way Curry or Jennings catch Evans in the rookie race. I think the rookie should pretty much be unanimous in terms that Evans should get all the first place votes. I don't understand why there is even a conversation about Curry or Jennings catching up to Tyreke. Tyreke could miss the rest of this season and be hands down rookie of the year.
Just needed to get this out. I never understood any of this rookie of the year chatter. THE ROOKIE RACE WAS OVER IN JANUARY.
THE MEDIA NEEDS TO SHUT THE CRAP UP.
Thank you.
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Now that you had your chance to rant
The relaity is Curry ahs the most complete game between the 3 and is very much alive in the voting. ESPN has declared Curry ROY and the east coast love Curry. He will be the superstar out of this lot.
8th alias and on probation
I promise to be kinder and gentler
Your argument is invalid
Because its stupid.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I agree Aykis-
But I like his name, it makes me laugh.
Hey Stinky- defense is part of having “the most complete game”. You can’t discredit an entire half of play in your analysis. Sure, Curry is a better shooter and passer but Evans is a better slasher and rebounder and on the defensive end, Curry is about 5 years and 40 pounds behind Evans.
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Dubs fans need something Aykis.
This is all they got.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Honestly though, if there was a redraft, it'd go something like
Griffin
Evans
The rest.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
Im not sure the Kings would take Griffin over Evans.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I think they might have
But unlike the Clippers, the Kings would have at least worked out people other than Griffin.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
We'd have taken Griffin
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by lietothegirls on Mar 22, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
They would UNLESS
they knew he would be out for a year. Going into draft it was Griffin
everyone else.
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You don’t pass on a perceived all-star franchise caliber big
No offense
But your opinion means jack shit diddly to me. Unless you know the Kings better than I do (not happening any time soon), and unless you’ve followed the team longer than I have (possible but unlikely), I would suggest not surmising what the Kings would have done in a situation you are not guaranteed to know what the Kings would have done.
Having said that, that’s probably true of me, but I’m a fan of the team. And, I’m not really sure the Kings ever really thought Griffin was a superstar. They probably felt that way early on about Evans.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Let me premise by saying I like the kings. I love the Warriors but I’ve never viewed Kings as a rival except for 4 games a year, it’s not a rivalry IMO, and if it is… it’s more a friendly one. Only team I truly hate is probably same as you…. Lakers.
And, I’m not really sure the Kings ever really thought Griffin was a superstar. They probably felt that way early on about Evans.
The kings never really thought about it because they had no shot at him once they were picking #4. But he was consensus #1 pick and I even heard Webber at the draft lottery saying hope they get #1 so they can pick him. They didn’t work him out because there was NO point
The whole concept or re-drafting is dumb. Sure Tyreke would be #1 pick today. but to go back in time, Griffin was a #1 lock same way Hakeem was over Jordan or Oden over Durant. Quality Bigs are seen as rarest and most important commodity
But franchise superstars are more rare
And I’m quite positive that the Kings would have ended up with Evans. We can argue semantics all you want. That’s what I truly believe despite nary a jot or tittle of evidence. I know what Griffin is perceived as, but I don’t really care. I was never a big Blake Griffin guy, and I think it would have taken an incredible year for Griffin to overtake Evans.
Having said that, the Kings desperately needed help everywhere. i believe then, and still believe, that they thought at the time 1 guard had the possibility to be a superstar in the NBA. At the time I thought it was Ricky Rubio or Brandon Jennings. As it turned out, it was Evans.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
You see how this works -
Evans scores more, rebounds more, provides more assists, has a better assist to turnover ratio, finishes at the rim better, and does this in spite of being the primary focus of the opposing team’s defense.
Curry, on the other hand, has a better jumper (though will never become a finish at the rim player) and picks up slightly higher ratio of steals.
Thus, Curry is more rounded.
Dubs fans is so crazee.
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by section214 on Mar 21, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
What else do you expect from a fanbase that doesn't chant "fire nellie" at every game?
I can’t wait until Randolph gets traded somewhere else so I can watch him kick ass.
Ditto for Brendan Wright, to a lesser extant.
I wouldn't call Wright a "bust"
I’d call him a “never-given-a-chance” that probably won’t be able to get one now.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
How is he a bust?
Year 1- on a team who missed out on playoffs by 1 game and won 48 games. Didn’t get many chances.
Year 2- Was seeing about 18 mpg w/ a steady increase until Pau Gasol obliterated his shoulder (gruesome)
Year 3- Out for year
But guess what, he’s only 22… aka almost 2 years younger than JT ;)
Yes Nellie is at fault for BWright
Nellie broke his collar bone! BWright was seeing steady minutes before Ggasol killed him last year (was at the game and sitting right where it happened… cringe). He was suppose to see even more this year (according to Nellie). Unlucky injury. I still have high hopes for his future. He’s only 22
I watch every dub’s game, as much as i Love AR’s potential (and hate Nellie playing Maggette over him) he makes A LOT of dumb mistakes. He is raw beyond belief. He was getting over 20mpg which is fair. Don’t judge him on sportscenter highlights but actually how many rotations he misses, and decisions he makes for ex. Monta lit him up on court for not knowing players properly earlier in year. Don’t listen to everything Rick Kamla tells you on NBAtv.
Lets compare
Reke/ Curry
PPG 20.3/ 16.3
APG 5.6/ 5.5
ToPG 2.9/ 2.9
RPG 5.2/ 4.2
SPG- 1.5/ 1.8
FG% 46.1/ 46.0
3pt% 25.2/ 42.3
FT% 74.6/ 88.4
TS% 53.2/ 56.5
There assist to turnover are near identical and when u factor in Curry has been averaging 7.2 apg for 2 months and 20+ ppg for 3 months now it’s easy to see how he’s catching up. I think Tyreke deserves it and will get it, but give Curry some credit for making it a bit of a race and has been head and shoulders with him since January 1
This is a dumb argument. Nobody of any substance is saying that Curry hasn't done well.
What we are saying, and have said repeatedly, is that Curry is not in the same class of player as Evans. Like it or not.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Let me state this way
Curry reminds me a lot of a better passing Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf or Rex Chapman. Tyreke Evans reminds me a lot of Dwyane Wade. Of the 3 veteran NBA guys, whom would you rather have?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
LOL, under sell much? I will say yes I’d rather have tyreke.
I have liked that DWade analogy and used it myself (though Wade is a lot more explosive, I get your general point)
Curry will be a lot more than Rex Chapman or Mahmoud Abdul Rauf… He’s been 20+ apg and 7+ apg the whole second half, and he shoots in a way that he scores really efficiently. Alot of people (including D’antoni and Nellie) like to say he reminds them of Nash. I wouldn’t ever be soo bold except to say look at Nash’s first few years in the league.
I’m happy with Curry all things considered @7. Certainly more so than I would be with Thabeet or Flynn or Harden (though i REALLY like him).
I do think you’re underselling how good Curry will be though
Okay a couple of things
We agree that Curry is good, but you said this:
He’s been 20+ apg and 7+ apg the whole second halfTyreke has been averaging 20, 5 & 5 for the whole season. Curry has not. It’s not the 2nd half of the year rookie award, it’s the rookie of the YEAR award.
Having said that, Curry is a terrific player, and it wouldn’t surprise if he ends up being the 2nd best player in the draft behind Tyreke. And, the comparison of Chapman and Rauf was not meant as an insult. Abdul-Rauf remains the best pure shooter I’ve ever seen in the NBA (last 20 years or so).
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Nash is the best pure shooter I've ever seen.
Problem is that dude is never the one receiving the ball for the kick-out 3pter. He’s absolute murder if he gets any open or less-contested looks.
Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!
If you're right the Dubs are quite lucky.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Haha Chris Jackson.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
You are right though,
I remember being at arco seeing him play against the kings when he was on the nugs… beautifull stroke..
fair enough
Tyreke has been averaging 20, 5 & 5 for the whole season. Curry has not. It’s not the 2nd half of the year rookie award, it’s the rookie of the YEAR award.
Won’t disagree with this statement either…..
I do think Curry’s game is more well rounded today. He can go both ways (not just right), he can shoot, he is a better defender (today, note: still not good, but tyreke is bad too). That being said, with all tyreke’s flaws he still does 20, 5,5 fairly efficiently w/ low turnovers makes it scary to see where he could be in 2 years, 5 years?
The funny thing is I think the combo would make a perfect backcourt.
So, how about you guys just send him over and we can test out my theory ;)
LOL good luck on that one tafka.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
The very definition of asinine
I do think Curry’s game is more well rounded today. He can go both ways (not just right)
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Mar 23, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Have u watched Curry play D?
He’s atrocious. He lets people walk past him on the way to the hoop. I love his game, but his D is not better than Tyreke’s
Agreed
He did a pretty fair job on Tyreke last time they played.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
The Warriors have been on NBA TV a few times
And a few other national games besides the Kings games, so I’ve seen them quite a few times this season. While that team is defensively challenged, and he’s got a lot of room for improvement, I don’t think he’s either “bad” or “atrocious” on defense.
He may not be as good a defender as Reke right now, but he’s definitely adequate (and for a rookie backcourt player, that’s not bad at all).
I've got squirrels in my pants!
I have given Curry plenty of credit for being a fine player -
I have even mentioned that he and Evans in the same backcourt would be very enticing.
My statement was in response that Curry was a much more rounded player than Evans, which is a statement lacking in research and intelligence.
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In your "relaity"
I’m guessing defense isn’t apart of being a “complete” player.
by madmavmathews on Mar 21, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a dubs fan.
I don't see what's wrong with giving Bobby a little experience before he starts to practise law.
I'm guessing you went to bed with an itchy butt, right?
I've got gas - yea, i'm enviromentally friendly
The reality is...
Curry will get some of the votes, but Tyreke will be declared ROY.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
using your analogy
Team A starts the season 10-10 but finishes their last 4 games 4-0 for a record of 14-10 and they are better than
Team B that starts 14-0 and Finishes finishes 2-2 for a record of 16-2 because they ended the year better?
You must have gone to some night school that smoked a lot of pot and tried to create some new existentialist philosophy to prove whatever point justify s your opinion.
WTS Curry is a great player and I cannot wait until the kings pick him up when the Warriors let him go ala, Webber, Richmond, Mullins, JBC, Arenas and whatever great talent they have had the priviledge of drafting with their super high draft picks the last 30 years
"If my aunt had a set of nuts, she'd be my uncle"
Are you responding to StinkyFingers?
I don’t follow your response to him, as I do not see him using an analogy. You lost me with your argument of Team A and Team B. He is stating an opinion, “Curry has the most complete game between the 3 and is very much alive in the voting.”
You must have gone to some night school that smoked a lot of pot and tried to create some new existentialist philosophy to prove whatever point justify s your opinion.
I also do not get this. I read this as a personal attack on someone whose opinion you do not agree with. Is this really necessary?
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Your right it was a little too personal
My response should have been more to the writers on the East Coast and anyone that thinks he is better or more complete needs to stop smoking pot and use an entire year not the last 2 months as their justification. Both players have weaknesses, but REKE has clearly been the better player over the entire year.
Better re-bounder, better defense, better slasher/scorer and one of only 3 other rookies to probably average 20-5-5. His court vision and his passing are not as good.
TO Stinky Fingers my apologies if I offended you.
"If my aunt had a set of nuts, she'd be my uncle"
lol - I am so relieved
Course, I doubt if Stinky Fingers was too offended, as it appears that he dropped a couple of turds on StR and has failed to follow-up on them.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Only in the mind of the smoker.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
both teams played hard
both teams played hard
by betweentheeyes on Mar 23, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
MY MAN
You forgot that part bte. Both teams played hard MY MAN, both teams played hard. Both teams played haarrrrddddd.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Both teams played hard, my man.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Not going to rail on you because Curry has been pretty darn good but "the east coast loves him"? What the hell is that?
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Mar 22, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
You (StinkyFingers) are officialy stupid.....
Thanks for clearing that up Aykis! : )
Dirty Di*k's and Shi% listen to this arithmetics
He couldn't be that stupid.
Look at all the play that he got for his reply to kingme18. Kingme18 posted this fanpost and got upstaged by a troll.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Calm down. Fear never accomplishes anything.
I think the rookie should pretty much be unanimous in terms that Evans should get all the first place votes.
There are a lot of people who vote for the Rookie of the Year. The winner is selected by a panel of sportswriters, each of whom casts a vote for first, second and third place. The vote will not be unanimous for Tyreke. There are those who feel Curry should win and those who feel that Jennings should win. You cannot “shut up” the media, as people are going to continue to campaign for their favorite player.
Although Kings fans are biased in favor of Tyreke, we truly do believe that he will win. We believe an overwhelming majority of first place votes will be cast for Tyreke. His stats back him up and his game speaks for itself. Have faith that the talent and accomplishments of Tyreke over his rookie season will be seen and appreciated by those who will be voting for the ROY.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
by Slam_Dunk on Mar 21, 2010 5:06 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
wow i was unaware that beno won one of those
either that or you were in a coma in january
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Mar 22, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah! I am surprised to learn that about Beno.
WaBeno has been under-appreciated until now. I hope that he wins player of the week.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
lol for truthfulness
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Mar 23, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you want me to actually look up stuff?
I could do it,but I’m pretty lazy and really, I just blurt out stuff cause I have a feel for it. Another guy off the top of my head that suits the MO is Anderson Varejao. Seems like he does alot for the team production wise, but is also in the shadows to a lot of the league, yet he is paid quite well…
Ok I ve gone and looked, I could say that Rondo is more productive than Beno this year at 2.5 mill (Yea I know hes gonna get paid next year, but he still produced more than Beno this year) The thing is I’m sure we could go back and forth and find players in the league that support or disagree with my point either way to argue the case..
End of the day I’m too lazy to look it up, so I’ll wave the white flag if u disagree….
That was the idea - look stuff up to make your case.
But, if you are too lazy to look up some PG salaries, I’ll accept your white flag.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
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