Post-Game Thread: Grizzlies at Kings
by Tom Ziller on Mar 22, 2010 9:45 PM PDT
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It was the 3rd qtr that was the real problem IMO.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That
and OJ Mayo’s outburst.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
8:37 left in the 4th and the game was tied
Then the Kings fell on their faces and totally lost the game.
That pretty well sums it up.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Red herring if you ask me.
It was a bit late and a last ditch effort. More representative of the team’s don’t quit attitude than anything else.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yes.
They wore down, but they wore down after being up big at one point in the game. What really cost them a chance at victory was not finishing the 2nd qtr and starting the 3rd qtr well.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I completely disagree
Sure they came out cold in the third, but were never down double digits. They waged a battle of momentum and it went back and forth. They ended the Third down by five points. That isn’t some horror fest and showed spirit.
They continued this back and forth until the last half of the fourth quarter. Then that completely lost it. They had 8 minutes to mount ANY kind of comeback. To get ANY kind of momentum and they completely failed.
The lost this game and it was not lost until the end of the fourth quarter.
Okay
The scramble to stay in the game cost them more energy, I think, than the energy it would had they maintained a lead at the end of the 2nd and at the beginning of the 3rd.
Maybe the Kings lose by the end of the game, but it’s close and it probably would have something to do with Memphis playing out of their minds.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
would have had^
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
OJ Mayo's 10 points in just over 2 minutes didn't help and sealed the deal.
It didn’t help that the Kings missed missed missed missed missed. Cisco and Noc missed 5 shots in the last 4 minutes. Not that anybody else was hitting much either, but they took most of the last shots and missed them.
Oh here you go. The loss is all on Cisco and Noc..
The reason the Kings lost is because they didn’t take enough advantage of their strong play with boneheaded plays at the wrong times. When they weren’t boneheaded, they were missing shots as the game wore on.
Memphis is the better team with athletes, skills, and brawn at every position. They aren’t a championship team, but they would have been the Kings 10 out of 10 times tonight with how they played.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I said nothing of the sort.
So, don’t go putting words in my mouth. I am not mike murry, from below.
I fully recognize just how good Memphis was, but I ALSO recognize that we held our own for most of the game and am not wrong about the missed shots.
Said nothing of the sort did you? Putting words in your mouth? Oh I see.
Let’s recap here. You said:
It didn’t help that the Kings missed missed missed missed missed. Cisco and Noc missed 5 shots in the last 4 minutes. Not that anybody else was hitting much either, but they took most of the last shots and missed them.Hmmm, that sounds like throwing Noc & Cisco under the bus without trying to sound like youre throwing them under the bus. Way to talk out of both sides of your mouth Mr. Ed.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I didn't say that Memphis isn't a better team or that we lost because of Noc and Cisco
I said that OJ Mayo hit 10 points in just over 2 minutes AND that
It didn’t help
Keep back pedaling. And I wasn't talking about whether you underestimated Memphis or not.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Not backpedaling. Stop misrepresenting me.
If I thought that it was Cisco and Noc’s fault I would say so directly. Not some bullshit like it didn’t help.
Go bug some newby. You can’t get much angst out of me tonight.
Oh I see. That's what I'm trying to do. Get a rise out of you and create more angst in you than what already exists. My bad. Go on your merry way my son.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
+1
I agree with Mustang. I don’t think he threw Cisco or Noc under the bus. He simply said they took most of the shots at crunch time, and missed on this night. Nothing else. I think you’re reading too much into it, Pookey.
by UCIrvine kings fan on Mar 23, 2010 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry but when you're down 11 with 3 mins left in the 4th and...
PW sent Noce in, didn’t everyone here understand that as a “Noce, go in there and see if you can hit some threes” statement. I mean Omri also came in for probably the same reasonl.
Teams are more comfortable leaving Noce at the 3point line because he misses more shots. But I think he went in to try to do the job that PW sent him in to do.
There can only be one Noce!
I understood exactly that.
Especially after that first play out of the timeout with the play drawn straight up for Noc who got the wide open 3.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I agree
That stretch of the second half of the second quarter and the first portion of the third was tough. They worked pretty hard to build up that double digit lead, but gave it up quickly – and too easily IMO.
I've got squirrels in my pants!
Right. I wasn't arguing the 4th didn't matter. I'm saying the 2nd & 3rd mattered a lot more. I see the 4th being a bi-product of the whole game. The 2nd and 3rd qtr? Not so much.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Unfortunate loss
Kings were bullied inside, ended up playing pretty sloppily in the 2nd half on both ends of the court, and in the end lost. Also, Beno Udrih led the Kings in boards. That’s not good.
Anyone else impressed by Thabeet tonight? I was. Not 2nd pick worthy, but he’s not going to be a complete bust if he puts some work in.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Agreed on Thabeet...he's raw, but there's potential there.
Gotta Love Your Sacramento Kings!!My Song!...http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/rhondda
When they loose?not feelin' the love so much(ich mir..oy vey!)
by Rhondda Nunes on Mar 22, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
He may end up being the 5th or 6th best player. Big men are very difficult to find.
I really do understand the pick from Memphis’ perspective.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
me too
They have a good backcourt, some good big men, why not take a bit of a risk? He is awfully imposing protecting the rim.
by MichaelMack on Mar 23, 2010 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Where does the Kings loss hurt?
Everywhere.
Who does the Kings loss hurt?
Everyone.
:-(
A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...
That's right! I almost forgot about the silver lining.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
What the deuce?
Tied 80-80, then lose 102-85? Man, talk about the wheels falling off. We were also up by 12 or more in the second, only to end the half up by 1. I understand losing to better teams, especially without the ’Reke, but that kind of execution blows. Come on guys, lock it up!
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
yeah, a couple of really bad stretches there
shit happens
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Mar 22, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
THABEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like him. He had a nice game.
I love beating dead horses.
Yeah...if he puts in some work over the next couple years he can be a good player.
Gotta Love Your Sacramento Kings!!My Song!...http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/rhondda
When they loose?not feelin' the love so much(ich mir..oy vey!)
by Rhondda Nunes on Mar 22, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
He is slowly putting it together
Next season he should get some backup minutes behind Gasol and will become more of a force.
He is huge!
Not just tall but just physically big & strong looking. Almost like Greg Oden
I love beating dead horses.
Thabeet's a big softy though
Have you ever read any of his tweets? Oden, on the other hand, is a veteran of both world wars.
I want your ugly I want your disease I want your everything As long as it’s free I want your love Love-love-love I want your love I want your drama The touch of your hand I want you leather studded kiss in the scene And want your love Love-love-love I want your love You know that I want youAnd you know that I need youI want a bad,your bad romance I want your loving And I want your revenge You and me could write a bad romance I want your loving All your love is revenge You and me could write a bad romance
by Neil Manich on Mar 22, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Oden
Definitely looks old enough to have been in both wars.
by OrangeLazarus on Mar 22, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
How old is he? Did you check his ID? Ladies and gentlemen, can you believe he is only 22?
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
It was a tale of two cities....
no wait…I mean a tale of two halfs.
Gotta Love Your Sacramento Kings!!My Song!...http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/rhondda
When they loose?not feelin' the love so much(ich mir..oy vey!)
PW said it best in the post game press conference
The Kings run out of gas. Time to hit the road and hopefully get a couple Ws
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Did someone try to insinuate that the Kings lost on purpose?
I wonder because Westphal emphasized that the team really did try to make their baskets.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Wasn't really paying attention to the questions to be honest
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
It was right at the end and I couldn't hear the question.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
probably the same guy that asked about Ron shutting Reke down
Kings are playing their best basket ball of 2010 right now.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Mar 22, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Not terrible
We didn’t have our best player, and Memphis is a terrible matchup for us. ZBo is just too big, and Thabeet looked decent. Spencer needs to keep eating his vitamins. Then when Mayo got hot we had no chance. On the plus side, Beno is on fire. I’m proud to be a fan of his again. I wish May would get more minutes. He’s mistake prone, but his effort is obvious.
I want your ugly I want your disease I want your everything As long as it’s free I want your love Love-love-love I want your love I want your drama The touch of your hand I want you leather studded kiss in the scene And want your love Love-love-love I want your love You know that I want youAnd you know that I need youI want a bad,your bad romance I want your loving And I want your revenge You and me could write a bad romance I want your loving All your love is revenge You and me could write a bad romance
You know, I like May....
He is mistake prone, but sometimes I think it’s because he’s trying a little too hard because he wants more minutes so badly, but he has potential that is yet to be realized…with his broad body I think he could develop even a Boozer-like game on the inside, even tho’ I think he sees himself as an offensive finesse player…the coaching staff can encourage him to be more than that , I think…
love to see Beno play well, I’ve thought for a while he could rise to the occassion, good to see him do that, it’s good for him and the Kings.
Gotta Love Your Sacramento Kings!!My Song!...http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/rhondda
When they loose?not feelin' the love so much(ich mir..oy vey!)
by Rhondda Nunes on Mar 22, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Amare turned on the beast mode button in GS
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
That dunk was sick
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Mar 22, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
He has the tools to be great
Sucks he’s wastng some of that potential
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I can picture Amare in a Kings Jersey...
Photoshop anyone???
No
I refuse to acknowledge the greatness of a player who self-nicknames himself “STAT”. I need none of that.
Until we sign him………
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Mar 22, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
No.
I don’t want anything to do with him.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
If we sign him
I’ll pretend he’s the greatest player to ever touch a basketball
I want your ugly I want your disease I want your everything As long as it’s free I want your love Love-love-love I want your love I want your drama The touch of your hand I want you leather studded kiss in the scene And want your love Love-love-love I want your love You know that I want youAnd you know that I need youI want a bad,your bad romance I want your loving And I want your revenge You and me could write a bad romance I want your loving All your love is revenge You and me could write a bad romance
by Neil Manich on Mar 22, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Wants a max contratc
Will probably get it
He’s not worth it
No
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I would rather have David Lee than Amar'e
Much rather have David Lee actually. I’d pay Lee more than Amar’e too.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I wouldn't pay more to Lee
but yes, I’d rather have Lee than Amare
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I'd rather trade JT for Troy Murphy.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
We disagree here as you well know.
I think the Kings might try to trade for Dalembert in the offseason though, since his contract expires after the season.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
So does Murphy's.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I know
I just think the Kings would rather go for a guy like Dalembert.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
That makes no sense to me. But I don't want any part of Dalembert at all.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Dalembert is quietly having one of his best seasons this year
and its not like he’s really old either.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
He doesn't help the Kings enough at defensive rebounding. Murphy is miles ahead of Dalembert at it.
Look at both’s Dreb%.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe you should too
Dalembert is at 30% this year. Murphy is 28%.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Yeah I know Dalembert is up there. But Murphy's done it for his whole career. Dalembert hasn't.
I just don’t get what makes Dalembert so valuable.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe I'm a pessimist
But its not encouraging that we are arguing between Dalembert and Murphy.
I want your ugly I want your disease I want your everything As long as it’s free I want your love Love-love-love I want your love I want your drama The touch of your hand I want you leather studded kiss in the scene And want your love Love-love-love I want your love You know that I want youAnd you know that I need youI want a bad,your bad romance I want your loving And I want your revenge You and me could write a bad romance I want your loving All your love is revenge You and me could write a bad romance
by Neil Manich on Mar 22, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Career DReb%
25.2% for Dalembert
24.6% for Murphy
OReb%
11.9% for Dalembert
7.7% for Murphy
Block%
5.8% for Dalembert
1.1% for Murphy
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Murphy is not a shot blocker. And, he shoots 3's which means he's not around the basket like Dalembert is. That's a very mis-leading argument you just made.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Murphy is not a shot blocker. And, he shoots 3's which means he's not around the basket like Dalembert is. That's a very mis-leading argument you just made.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Shooting 3 pointers doesn't affect Defensive rebounding.
Dalembert is better for his career. This is a fact you cannot refute.
To me the Kings could use a defensive presence who doesn’t need many touches on offense. This is what Dalembert is to me.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Rather have Murphy if I have a guy at the end of his career. But that's me.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I disagree there as well
But its alright because both our scenarios are unlikely to happen.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Maybe maybe not. We'll see.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I like the Idea of Dalembert too.
He seems to fulfill the need for defense and rebounding better.
More importantly, I wonder if it might be worth getting a defensive big in free agaency/trade (if Kings can) and use lottery pick for a kickass 2/3, since bigs take longer to develop.
Maybe
the Kings were missing their fourth quarter shots so Beno could get his triple double. He was only 3 rebounds away.
that is kind of funny, actually
Though I must say, and I am a true hater of the Peach-tard, that he was tolerable, even decent tonite, without Tyreke to crush on.
by MichaelMack on Mar 23, 2010 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions
That was an empty an Arena
as I’ve seen since prior to the Webber Divac days….I guess 6000-7000.
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
I'd be shocked if there was really 5000 people in there ElRon.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
From inside
Didn’t look any emptier than any other game. Attendance is definitely down…
by OrangeLazarus on Mar 22, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
There were a ton of empty seats in the lower bowl. That's what's surprising.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Well
Not a lot of bandwagon Memphis fans I guess. The only time the Arena fills up is when a popular opponent comes to town anyway.
by OrangeLazarus on Mar 22, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Unfortunately that's true.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I was inside...
you must be the guy I saw. And it was way emptier than any game I’ve been to, except for the superbowl game
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
It only matters what paid attendance was babsin.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Well I think reported attendance is ticket sales
But whoever didn’t show up didn’t pay for parking passes, refreshments, etc.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
No it's not.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
What is reported attendance then?
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I meant reported attendance is not paid attendance.
Paid attendance is what matters.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Haha
I traded in my Fakers tickets to bring a couple of extra guests to this game. At least it was quiet and we could hear each other talk the whole second half.
by OrangeLazarus on Mar 22, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL OL. Probably could.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
whatever...
after the top 5 players in the draft there is a pretty big drop off in talent. is ay shut tyreke down and who cares about wins from here on out…
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
...
Never shut anything down… I am sick of losing basketball and a losing culture. Just win, lottery be damned.
by OrangeLazarus on Mar 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Im with you on this one
I have had enough “moral” victories this year to last me a decade
by MichaelMack on Mar 23, 2010 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions
It was all garbage time...
For the most part he shot his threes when you want them, down 10+ points with 2 or 3 minutes left in the game. If he makes them he is a hero…
by OrangeLazarus on Mar 22, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Were you the guy in the red shirt
I was the guy in the black shirt
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
seriously? He was 1-4 in 12 mins until he got put back with 3mins left...
and us down by 11. He then misses 3 straight 3pointers. Sure, that’s a bad line, 1-7 FG, 1-5 from 3…
But hey, did he really have a choice in his last few shots? Im pretty sure he was put there in the hopes he could hit a few threes and get us closer. So him not taking those shots would be the actual failure.
There can only be one Noce!
He could also have protected his stat line by not shooting and passing the ball for someone...
else to miss and become the goat but not Noce. Noce ain’t ever backing down.
There can only be one Noce!
right.... that's what he was doing... sacrificing himself....
so beautiful it brought a tear to my eye
Easier to just twiddle his thumbs and do nothing than to actually try something and risk failing.
Im sure you’d have been more amenable to the “sacrificing his stats” concept if it was Reke or Beno or Omri or Donte shooting and missing those three’s.
There can only be one Noce!
Good call on the radio Aykis
"It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV. But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns. Also he got a race car. Is any of this getting through to you?"
Thanks
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Have to say, some of these callers are way too pessimistic though
Like DP
"It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV. But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns. Also he got a race car. Is any of this getting through to you?"
The season is winding down...
And IMHO it is already a success. We are playing with house money now. I just want them to finish strong and keep the chemistry at a high level and hope players like JT, Donte and Spencer are inspired to work on their games over the summer.
by OrangeLazarus on Mar 22, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think we have to worry about tanking
None of these kids will play to lose… none, never. Neither will coach so we’re safe there. The losses will come because we’re still a work in progress; the effort will be there
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Yeah
I’ll have to call in more often.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
look on the bright side
I heard tyreke was only 20 yrs. old
by larry_funderburke on Mar 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT reply actions
What did you expect? A win?
You have a starting lineup with 2 well below par wings against a strong Grizzlies team. Garcia almost single handedly shot us out of the game (nocioni’s normal duty). Speaking of Noci and Garcia, they managed an incredible 4-19 and 10 pts. Pathetic. Strait chuckers, the both of em.
The whole bench shot like crap. I don't know why you're singling out Noc or Cisco by themselves.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
The reasons are:
A- You can’t win when you have a starting sg score 7 points in 35+ minutes at a horrible percentage (Garcia).
B- Nocioni 7 shots in 11 minutes (and make 1). Unexceptable for a team not trying to tank.
C- Starting Front court has 36 points, and pg has a near triple double. And the bench mob of Casspi, Thompson, and Udoka all have a strong + in the plus/minus colum. Who do you blame?
D- Seems overall the kings played well, except Garcia and Noci playing selfish basketball. Neither should see time on a competitive team, and thats exactly what we are building.
by mike murray on Mar 22, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
cisco makes those shots often
at least the wide open ones. i’ll roll with it. he shot a couple off balance but sometimes he makes those too. he had a bad game. it happens. noc’s shots were almost all in desperation mode. not why we lost.
by lchristmas on Mar 22, 2010 11:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh my god
Are you serious? Are you really serious? Don’t make me refute you here. Really don’t make me refute your utter and complete stupidity.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Calm now pookey
Let the stupid people be stupid.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Any retard that quotes +/- for a single game as pure evidence of why a player is hurting the team deserves to be raked over the coals IMO.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Stats can be misleading
Are you going on the box score or did you watch the game? I am asking because if you saw the game you will remember that Nocioni only came in when the other players were getting in serious foul trouble / worked over for loose balls at the free throw area. Noce brings the toughness and can frustrate opponents. Most of his selfish shots were when the Kings were down and he was passed to on most of them and not taking shots off of the dribble like Garcia.
I am not saying Noce had a great game but he wasn’t the reason we lost.
by OrangeLazarus on Mar 22, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike look up Rbs per minute by the bigs
ouch!
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
I get the feeling that a portion of people really thought Memphis is a below average team. And, uh, they aren't.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Agree
Gasol has become a load since he lost weight….speaking of which who stole the other half or Randolph. Memphis must have a damn good nutritionist.
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
Randolph hasn't really lost weight from what I've noticed. He's just better when a team utilizes him right. He plays with less attitude and a chip on his shoulder.
He’s also grown up a bit, and being traded twice has helped that along I bet.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If Nocioni was playing selfish basketball, he would have protected his bad...
but not terrible stat line of 1-4. Instead, he chose to shoot in the hopes of bringing us back from 11 points down, knowing that if he missed, idiots like you would blame him and his measly mins as the reason for the loss, despite the fact that we went down by 11 when Noce was on the bench.
There can only be one Noce!
Stranger things have happened...
The Griz are a big team, especially with Gasol and Randolph but you never know. Looks like we are all going to be at the hot tub time machine draft lottery party together so it doesn’t really matter.
by OrangeLazarus on Mar 22, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with you. I was especially disappointed with Garcia's shooting.
I’ve already come to expect it with Noc. I would have liked to have seen Westphal pull Garcia out of the game, but as Westphal stated he had to play Beno and Garcia because he didn’t have any other guards. With Tyreke out and Sergio TRADED, the team is a little bit short of guards right now. We could have used Sergio last night. But, that is all water under the bridge. Something to be aware of for the future, though. The team needs another guard.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
now peaches gets a lot of grief on the interwebs
but you have to admire how he seamlessly subs in beno for tyreke in the “incessant recounting of statistics (‘hey he might get a triple double’)” category
that’s why the guy gets the big bucks
by lchristmas on Mar 22, 2010 10:48 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I was watching the comeback vs. Chicago again today.. I really miss Jon Brockman
I hope he hasn’t retreated back into the dark depths of that godforsaken lake of his…
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