Kings Waive Joey Dorsey
by Tom Ziller on Mar 29, 2010 3:10 PM PDT
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PrintFor reasons unexplained, the Kings have waived forward Joey Dorsey. Coach Paul Westphal apparently thought so little of the young rebounder that Dorsey couldn't even get into a game against the Cavs in which Jason Thompson played a full 48 minutes at center.
Best of luck to Dorsey, who belongs in this league.
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Wow, now that is crazy.
Dorsey must have said the right grouping of words. Very strange turn of events for a guy who should have found a nice home here as a bench rebounder/enforcer. I hope this is the end of Joey Dorsey as an NBA player because that is one mean mother-Fer and I would hate to see what he might do to the Kings big’s the next time they meet up.
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Oh
We released the Kraken.
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by Kfan in Korea on Mar 29, 2010 3:19 PM PDT reply actions 14 recs
i have expected an embedded video here
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Mar 29, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Came here to post this. So happy Kfan beat me to it.
Very very disappointed Dorsey’s no longer around.
Does this mean the Kings are looking to pick someone up?
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um..why?
last time i checked, brockman is injured….may and hawes are both sore.
an injury to landry or thompson would leave us with one healthy big man
and its not like he played bad in any oppurtunity he was given…
thats a head-scratcher
This is bizarre, but I am sure there is some explanation.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
This is interesting
I do wonder why, but who knows? It’s not any real biggie to me one way or the other than I don’t see the advantage of moving Dorsey unless you’re bringing in players.
I think Mustafa Shakur and Will Conroy might both be Kings come tomorrow.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
They had 14 roster spots used before waiving Dorsey (unless I'm missing something--which is possible)
So technically they didn’t need to waive Dorsey if they were going to bring Shakur or Conroy in. But if they wanted, or needed, to bring both in? They would have to waive somebody and that somebody probably ended up being Dorsey.
Although, I do wonder why the Kings couldn’t have waived McGuire regardless of injury.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
This is weird...
McGuire out for the season and they don’t waive him? Yet you waive a guy who could play when we have Spencer, Brockman, and May out with injuries? We could be like Portland was and not have a Center if something goes wrong.
Sounds to me like somebody else wants Dorsey and GP is doing a favor for later return.. Only thing that makes sense is that Dorsey is picked up by someone, but then again may something is wrong in the lockerroom. Why else would PW not play him the last game?
Weirdness
Spence and Brockman are playing tomorrow.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
As far as letting Dorsey go for a favor
That doesn’t happen in this league. Maybe Dorsey asked to be waived and the Kings obliged him.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I can too.
I don’t really know why now. I don’t really see Dorsey being a huge disruption now anymore than he was 3 weeks ago.
Something tells me this has to do with Cisco and the Kings are preparing for Conroy and Shakur coming to the team.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
With McGuire hurt you couldn't waive him
(well you could but you’d have to pay him anyway and as a hurt player I think he still takes a roster spot)
As for Dorsey, I questioned a week or two ago why he wasn’t getting at least a few minutes when we played the very large [redacted]s.
I’m guessing it was locker room/ practice stuff.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Mar 29, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow....um
Why? I mean we don’t have many big bodies
Wow
Times like this is where I miss Amick being on the beat so he could dig deeper and figure out what happened. I know he’ll be on Fanhouse starting later this week, but still.
I wish Dorsey the best of luck, I’ve liked him since college and I think he’s shown remarkable growth over the last couple of seasons. He deserves to be in this league, and I thought he deserved a place on this team through the remainder of the season. Only time will tell.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Jones broke all this stuff.
It’s also in the kingsflix video.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It sounds like Andrew Nichols (or what ever that guys name is) asked the roster question-
and then Jason Jones followed up the “oh yeah, we waived Joey Dorsey” with a how about that Beno Udrih guy… Very poor follow up questions there by Jones. How about, “What happened with Dorsey?” or “Are the Kings bringing someone in from the NBDL?”.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
You're a working beat reporter
And you know players have problems with a certain redhead, do you break the news to the public that Dorsey was an asshole behind the scenes? Or do you let the asshole redhead do it for you saving you time to get PW’s real thoughts on players in the rotation that are actually helping the team?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If I'm a beat writer, I'm looking for a scoop, not waiting a few hours for some D-bag to break on the radio.
If that’s the way Jone’s wants to do his job then let’s hope he get’s replaced asap. Maybe he needs to improve his interview/questioning skills, maybe he isn’t comfortable but that follow up question was written on his note pad earlier in the day and he didn’t listen to a word Westphal said or he would have at least asked.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
2 things
You’ve never been a beat writer. And, Jones has.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh and when Will Solomon was waived
There was just a recap of his stat line by Melody Guiterrez. Is she terrible too?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
He won't be for long,
He’s a reporter of information. A collector of fresh tid bits. This isn’t even a big story and the dude walks away from a follow up question? Man, I hope there was more on that tape.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
You're right it's not a big story.
So why is a follow up question deserved?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Because 1 of the 12 or 13 players on the team you are covering was waived in season.
I’m pretty confused why you are defending him here. Before Napes broke the story you and me and other were speculating what happened here. We were speculating because a beat reporter with access didn’t ask basic follow-up 101. If I’m not mistaken, the Will Solomon comments had already run before he was waived so when it happened, it wasn’t a surprise.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
I don't remember Solomon's comments
But I do remember it was a relief. There was only 2 possibilities. Dorsey either asked out or the Kings let him go because they didn’t want to deal with his attitude. But, I’m more interested in the followup of this than I am of the actual waiving.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Come on pookey, you're better than that
Your statement is really no different than “you’ve never played, coached or been a GM for a professional basketball franchise, so why should your opinion matter”?
I've got squirrels in my pants!
Clearly in a foul mood
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Mar 29, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess that's true Otis
The only problem I really have is that there isn’t a lot of reason for Jones to say why that is. He’s got to interview these guys and all that.
I’m not bitter about it. I just really disagree and think Jason Jones did the right thing not saying anything. He’s not obligated to spread gossip about the team.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I get what you're saying
But good reporters (IMO) shouldn’t prioritize hurt feelings over asking the right questions. If they are good at what they do, they should be able to ask the relevant questions and still be respected by the players and team – just don’t take cheap shots.
I've got squirrels in my pants!
What's more relevant than saying he was waived?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Why?
For a team that’s having defensive low post problems, you waive a young guy that appears to have some potential…why was he waived? Simple, easy, straightforward question.
Honestly, I think you’re making a bigger deal out of it than the rest of us. It’s a simple follow up question that was missed…that’s all.
I've got squirrels in my pants!
even if napier was not around, i would guess alot of times the reporters would not talk about this type of stuff in public until someone else does
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Mar 29, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. I think it's bad form for J Jones to do so.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Agreed, I miss Amick too
Unless this was a favor to Dorsey, this makes no sense. I mean, we still have a D-League team, right?
Dip til I rip
by Muff209 on Mar 29, 2010 3:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Who doesn't miss Amick?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Peaches
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Mar 29, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn't that a given?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Just making conversation.
lol
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Mar 29, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Okay.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
This seems like a lot of consternation
for someone that played a grand total of 52 minutes for us. I think if he was demonstrating the skill necessary to play, PW would have been playing him already. If he had been practicing well, he would have been in already.
Welcome to StR
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Mar 29, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The waving of Douby broke my heart.
Gosh, I miss that unibrow. And I was photoshopping Shelden Williams well past his trade.
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3-Will
I hung my flag at half-staff, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
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by section214 on Mar 29, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
There always is the possiblity he's an Asshole
not that there’s anything wrong with that
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
by ElRonToro on Mar 29, 2010 4:01 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The ElRon has spoken..
.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
maybe noc was mistranslated and he was actually asking for dorsey to go...
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Weird
I was actually thinking about that this morning, how I hoped they kept Brockman over him after the year.
Well, you got your wish!
Maybe you jinxed Dorsey! It’s all your fault.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
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by section214 on Mar 29, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Updated Jerrysims
Goey Dorsey
Joey Dorseeya
Dorsal Finished
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by section214 on Mar 29, 2010 4:25 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Joey "Don't let the" Dorsey "hit you on the way out."
That was terrible. Not even funny. Why didn’t I just cancel instead of posting!?!
"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.
by PhutureKings on Mar 29, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Because you can't help yourself?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
his offfense brings me to tears
but from what i remembered, he could actually anchor the kings defense. he reminded me of a very very raw dwight howard. why oh why did we waive him
maybe a little too raw
kings need medium rare or more at this point. the kings probably weren’t going to keep him at season’s end so why not let him go and give him a chance elsewhere. the kings eventually have to have “veteran” players. we have a young nucleus so we can’t keep all the young players. dorsey went the way of justin williams a few years back. seemed like the bench center we needed when given the opportunity played hard and well but didn’t get the minutes necessary to continue the experiment.
by larry_funderburke on Mar 29, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice analogy
Considering that our inside play is more often rare and rarely well done.
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by section214 on Mar 29, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Section is en fuego
I think this is the 4th or 5th comment I’ve rec’d of yours in this thread.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
This may explain Westphal's postgame comment.
Although eight guys were suited up to play the Cavaliers, Westphal stated that the team played with seven players. He apparently didn’t count Dorsey as a player at that time.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Dorsey still would have been cool to have of the bench!
Hopefully The Kings are gearing up for something to happen….
Dirty Di*k's and Shi% listen to this arithmetics
I win..he's an asshole
Grant said he was released for comments made after the game
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
Makes sense
When you can’t get burn as the 8th guy, the handwriting is on the wall.
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Makes plenty of sense.
Kills my theory that the Kings may sign Conroy & Shakur though.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
grant said he was cut because of comments made after the game...
said something to the effect of “why am i practicing if i’m not gonna play” and then something that Grant couldn’t even repeat….
A tasteful apology?
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by tomroadrunner on Mar 29, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Did Grant say who these comments were made to?
Was it part of Westphal’s open door policy or did Dorsey talk to the media?
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
did peaches
rate on a scale of 1-10 the level of softness Dorsey measured at?
by SantaCruzKing on Mar 29, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
guess this Joey goes back in the pouch
and will have to jump to another team
by betweentheeyes on Mar 29, 2010 6:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
maybe he got into the Reptile House after hours
wait, that was Joey Moose.
No, I've seen Bruce Lee fight Chuck Norris in WAY of the Dragon.
by TriumphOfTheWillSmith on Mar 29, 2010 7:31 PM PDT reply actions
From Woj
Kings cut Joey Dorsey largely for clownish behavior, source says. They don’t consider him bad guy, but coaches feared his act rubbing off.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
Wow
Maybe they shouldn’t follow Dontee on twitter if that’s the case…
by OrangeLazarus on Mar 29, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Mar 29, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
That is a lame excuse.
Westphal could have made him sit out a game to discipline him.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Woj says
“Kings cut Joey Dorsey largely for clownish behavior, source says. They don’t consider him bad guy, but coaches feared his act rubbing off.”
Twitter
www.mancancook.net
Donte Greene and JT mentioned him a few times on Twitter and how he was a clown in the locker room.
by SantaCruzKing on Mar 29, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
So what is the problem with being a clown?
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I wonder if this was specifically to prevent Donté from regressing
He’s been much more professional this season, but he was the poster boy for “clownish behavior” last season.
I've got squirrels in my pants!
Clowning in the locker room no longer allowed.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I like this
in the sense that the Kings front office are looking at the future (we knew they were, I know) but they are making sure that the team is working not only on the floor but also off the floor.
We’re slowly building a core and they are protecting it, by making sure everyone is on the same page and making sure the chemistry is there,
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
But aren't Dwight Howard and Shaq both clowns as well?
And they are/were big parts of their team. It’s not a bad thing to have fun in the locker room, it helps keep the team loose and happy. JT and Omri could both learn to loosen up a bit. But on the other hand, if he is clowning around and not practicing and letting it affect his game, that’s another thing and then I can agree with the decision (although I would have liked to see if they could work on his attitude rather than just dumping him. Could have been a big reward for the risk.)
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by prowseinthehouse on Mar 29, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I know you didn't mean it that way
but you just compared one of the best C in the history of this game and arguably the best C in the L right now, to Joey Dorsey.
Whether it was a small incident or something a bit bigger, the front office and coaching staff doesn’t have to put up with what they (obviously) viewed as a ‘conduct detrimental to the team’ from a 12th man.
It’s not always JUST about basketball.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I wasn't comparing them as basketball players
I was just pointing out that their attitudes may be similar and it hasn’t been an issue to the teams that shaq and howard were on. I used them also cuz they are easily recognizable names. But you are probably right. Maybe the fact that Howard and Shaq are at the top, their actions are seen from a different angle than that of a low bench player. I concede to you, you win.
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by prowseinthehouse on Mar 29, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I win? What do I get?
This whole Dorsey thing is not a big deal so I don’t want to make it bigger than it is. I just appreciate the front office and coaching staff protecting the young players, even when it’s a small detail.
I guess I just like the way OKC is going about building their team. Chemistry and how the players seem to be all be on the same page is something that I think is very important going forward.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
tru dat
(i feel like i need to take a shower after typing that)
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Mar 29, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Knicks fan here
Dorsey was almost sent to the Knicks in the original Sacramento-less McGrady Rockets-Knicks trade proposal. I thought he sounded intriguing, and I’m wondering if the Knicks will pick him up now. There is probably something wrong with his attitude, I’m thinking.
Anyway, I enjoyed reading your discussion about Dorsey – thanks! And we’ll see you in the finals in a couple of years (cough)
guessing he knows his role now
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Mar 30, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Wacka Wacka
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Mar 30, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Thank you Fozzy!
Judgment day is coming!
by Widowwolf on Mar 30, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i love the fact that not only is there fonzie bear in this picture but right underneath him it says "judgment day is coming!"
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Mar 30, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
So what are saying, he is the Antichrist or something
Judgment day is coming!
by Widowwolf on Mar 30, 2010 3:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Ouch
This still doesn’t fall below Dorsey getting kicked out of Summer League game while dressed in street clothes.
And the “raw Dwight Howard” comment is hilarious.
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No.
I will never miss that.
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Dorsey had been late to workouts since the Kings acquired him Feb. 18 in the three-team trade involving Kevin Martin.
A knock on Dorsey in Houston was his work ethic. Westphal declined to discuss the player’s situation with the Kings.
“Let’s just say we decided to waive him and leave it at that,” Westphal said.
Well so much for Jones not adding in the reason.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
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