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Feeding the New Vice: Pacers 102, Kings 95

The Kings rebounded well, and for the balance of the game defended the Pacers well. Given that those are typically Sacramento's weaknesses, you'd think the team set itself up for success, right?

Wrong.

The team relied too much on jumpers, ones which fell in the first half but not the second, and ended up with a bad, bad offensive night. The Kings shot 42 percent, had 16 turnovers in 96 possessions, earned only 15 free throw attempts, ending up with an offensive rating of 98.7.

Carl Landry was 3-7 on mid-range jumpers and 5-8 at the rim. Jason Thompson was an anomaly -- 5-8 from mid-range, just 1-6 around the rim. Beno Udrih: 4-9 from mid-range, 4-4 in the paint, 0-4 from three.

Landry took seven of his 15 shots from the mid-range. Thompson took eight of his 14 shots from the mid-range. Beno took nine of his 13 two-point attempts from the mid-range. Those three players combined to take 24 of their 42 two-point attempts -- some 57 percent of their shots -- from the mid-range. They combined for 24 points on those shots. Twenty-four points on 24 shots.

Star-divide

At the rim, despite Thompson's paint struggles, the trio scored 20 points on 18 shots, and happened to combine for 11 FTAs, free throw attempts you don't get on mid-range jumpers. That ended up as nine more points on five more shooting possessions (Beno had one and-1). Lesson: screw the mid-range. It's no good for you.

And this is why Tyreke Evans is so incredibly important, and valuable. He took 13 FGAs ... but just four from the mid-range. He took two threes, and had seven FGAs at the rim. He was 4-8 at the rim -- actually, 0-4 in the paint through three quarters, then 4-4 in the fourth. He also earned four FTAs, and hit all four.

The percentages don't lie, not over the entire league, over so many teams and players. Mid-range jumpers are nightshade to a team's offense. They should be last resorts, not more than half of the offense for three of your top five possession-users. The Kings acquired Landry to be a post presence, but he's constantly stationed 15-18 feet from the basket. Thompson is hardly smooth at the rim, but he's a brilliant offensive rebounder, he can receive a pass, and he's not nearly as good a perimeter shooter as everyone thinks. Beno -- hell, Beno can shoot away. He's at almost 50 percent from mid-range on the season, one of the league's few efficient players from there. He's also at about 70 percent at the rim, which of course encourages the belief that cutting down those two-point jumpers a bit would be OK.

Tyreke obviously has unique gifts -- his shot profile is part of what makes him such a special player, and it's unfair to expect his teammates to emulate it. At the same time, the proof of what works is right there. Learn from it.

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Exactly

I’m sure someone is waiting in the wings to give him a max deal. They could have traded for him, but they wanted the opportunity to give him a max deal so he will be content as humanly possible.

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by Exhibit G on Mar 31, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

random question

if Noce decided to up and go to Europe to play next season and negotiated a buy out, would his contract still count against the cap? Can we convince some European team to offer him a nice deal?

by LPKingsFan on Mar 31, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would have to be a mutual cancellation of the contract

ala Fisher in Utah – or it would I think and no Euro team would do it anyway because of some agreement we have. Thats why Rubio couldn’t just walk away.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lttg is absolutely right.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should just walk away.

Everyone knows, Chapu is all about winning not the paycheck. No doubt, Nike’s got a Chapu shoe in the works so he can make back that lost cash in endorsements while single-handedly leading New York to the promised land.

A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...

by Jaycee on Mar 31, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your point on the mid range game may be true

But I think it’s probably a signal of death in the league where so many teams focus on being at the rim and/or shooting 3’s. Yes, there is greater efficiency on both of those shots, but there is a lot of open shots between those area’s. I think that’s one reason JT is encouraged to take those types of shots. He can hit them at a higher frequency than he has. Whether he does so or not I do not know. I don’t have a crystal ball.

I think one reason Beno fits better with Tyreke than Kevin Martin is that other the ball handling portion of the G duties, Beno has a mid range game that Kevin was not adept at utilizing. I’m not saying Kevin had no ability to utilize it at all; I’m just saying it was not a strength. Beno’s strength is getting that mid range shot and that’s why it works so well with Reke.

I guess I just don’t understand the war on the mid-range game outside of Landry. (I agree he should get 80% of his FGA on the block.)

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 7:10 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm not sure what to make of this

I can look at the statistics and see that there is not a good ROP (return on possession) for that shot.

However, when playing I see the importance of hitting that shot and forcing the defense to play you honest. I think the most effective screens are run at 16-18 ft. If you move out to the 3 point line to run the same play, the defense has too much time to recover.

That is a shot you can really get at any time though. Maybe we are doing it too much too early in the shot clock. If we can’t get a better shot early in the clock, we can kick it out and try something else rather than settling.

by markdog333 on Mar 31, 2010 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

The mid-range is a good weapon - unless that's all you are doing well

If you can’t score consistantly at the rim with big men or hit 3’s most decent teams will adjust in the 2nd half and make it tough on you.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the mid range shot is good for spacing and things of that illk

It’s not good in high volume attempts but it is good for enough attempts that you take them consistently. I would rather more offense be run closer to the rim or kickouts for quality 3’s. But, there is also opportunities to take mid range shots and when you can I think the guys proficient at it should do so.

Now, that statement is alot of what TZ already said. I disagree with him about JT and agree about Landry. But that is either a criticism of A) PW B) Landry or C) both. Right now I would think it’s a bit of both.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

To me...

the problem with JT and Landry both taking a significant amount of midrange jumpers is that it takes both away from the offensive glass. They constitute what little presence the Kings have there, so having them consistently out of the key brings offensive rebounding to a grinding halt.

Otherwise, the midrange shot as a weapon is important, but only in so much as it forces other teams to guard away from the rim, freeing up passing/driving lanes. There are just so many good things that happen when you consistently get to the rim, and those things are limited away from it….

"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."

by Mcamp49 on Mar 31, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah good point about the offensive glass. I knew my original comment was meaning in that statement

If you look at teams you have a high ORB%, there is not a strong correlation between the best & worst teams. That is true of DRB%, but not ORB%.

Frankly, if the argument that the Kings need to rebound more offensively to help their offense, it sucks.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Btw

This is what you should look at to see my point about ORB% and DRB%. (Look at miscellaneous stats.)

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, that's not it at all...

I just think that JT in particular could help the Kings more by consistently being a rebounder (both offensively and defensively) rather than by being a scorer – particularly because the only way he currently scores with any consistency is from the perimeter. I hope that starts to change with him getting more proficient on the block as well as more looks near the basket. Plus, he is a pretty good free throw shooter, so there is that…

I have never been a big believer in hitting the offensive glass too hard – I would much rather a team focus on transition defense – but if JT was generally around the rim more on offense, I think he could help the Kings there more than he does from 15 feet away…

"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."

by Mcamp49 on Mar 31, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

How does scoring keep you from defensive rebounding?

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well see I wasn't of the belief that you thought that. LOL

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good points.
There are just so many good things that happen when you consistently get to the rim, and those things are limited away from it….

So many of those good things include getting more fouls to get you to the line more often.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 31, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously Pookey, is this a pre April Fools comment?

I think the reason JT gets to take a lot of mid range Js is that teams are willing to let him. The only thing less efficient than a mid range jumper is a contested mid range jumper. I will give you Beno however.

The other thing about Js with the Kings is usually when the team takes a lot of them it means that ball movement has stopped.

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by Bluejohn on Apr 1, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

No April Fools intended BJ.

I just disagree with TZ on this one.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 1, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

the 3 spot again

        Donte was his ususal of late 4 points and 2 rebounds and the “chucker” was 4-12. We are not getting anything consistent of late from the 3 spot. In the beginning of the year Omri was playing good at the 3 spot and was in many people’s top 5 in the ROY standings and then he hit “Pink Floyd’s” wall. Donte has showed flashes of brillance but in his defense has had to guard the other team’s superstar, but more is needed than 4 points and 2 boards.
        I am fantasizing, but with someone like Granger at the 3 and a good draft, playoffs??
        Back to work and reality.

by noreboundsnorings on Mar 31, 2010 7:28 AM PDT reply actions  

All I kept thinking was

how much we could have used Dorsey

by MichaelMack on Mar 31, 2010 7:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Honestly, what the hell has Dorsey ever done?

Perhaps you were being sarcastic…if not…. I do not understand the fascination with Dorsey. He’s a chump that doesn’t do anything, anywhere he goes. The Kings need bigs, but not lame bigs.

And I completely agree with Ziller about Landry being in the low post. What the F? That’s perhaps the biggest reason the Kings acquired him. Is it the O, or Landry? JT needs a post game so badly it hurts. He can’t pass for the high post like Hawes, and the O boards are needed. Damnit JT….get it together over the summer.

by amonk81 on Mar 31, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps?

Um, that was an anvil of sarcasm, I too was perplexed by the hundreds of comments over a player that was only on the floor 52 minutes for the Kings, and looked like he had played on offense in his life.

by MichaelMack on Mar 31, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing better to do.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you patent the Reke-O-Meter

I just noticed it was on the top of kings.com today

by markdog333 on Mar 31, 2010 8:01 AM PDT reply actions  

The Kings steal something from StR?

Unheard of.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of stealing things...

A month or two ago one of the “Fresh Thoughts With Jerry Reynolds” was about how to restructure the playoffs in the NBA and to eliminate the East/West and just bring in the top teams in the league etc. etc. After that game I saw on ESPN an article saying almost verbatim what Reynolds was saying on his “Fresh Thoughts.” I just thought it seemed suspicious… But I wonder… who stole it from who?

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by prowseinthehouse on Mar 31, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

speaking of conferences and divisions

I hope they do not make that change. Honoring the conferences and divisions help keep rivalries alive.

I don’t even like the way they re-structure the divisions now. The winner of each division should get the 1st, 2nd or 3rd seed regardless of record. Otherwise, being the division champ is meaningless.

by markdog333 on Mar 31, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the idea

Of just having two conferences in each of the major sports, taking the top X number of teams in each conference, but doing the seeding of the tournament across conferences. Forget divisions, wild cards, etc.

I've got squirrels in my pants!

by otis29 on Mar 31, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite idea

is to just prohibit any team at .500 or below from making the playoffs. Fill in with a team from the other conference above .500

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by Viliphied on Mar 31, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

interesting

won’t happen, but it is a nice argument over should or shouldn’t.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 31, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's an interesting idea, but basically

it will be all teams above .500 or the top half of the league. Isn’t this the same as Jerry Reynolds idea?

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Apr 1, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well,

Looks like we don’t have to worry much about the Pacers picking ahead of us.

So there’s that.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2010 9:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Why does DX have the Pacers picking 4th?

- just needs an update I guess since they’ve won 5 of 6 or whatever.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

They update it every once in awhile.

It really doesn’t matter until all the players declare anyway lttg. And shortly after that the ping pong balls will be picked.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Quick Threadjack

Scott Howard Cooper was on the Rise guys this morning and teased that there were some BIG news coming regarding the Kings. He also implied that it had to do with Reke.

Did anyone else catch that?

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 31, 2010 9:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Rookie of the month?

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not big enough for the way that Scoop mentioned it

but I could see that. I’d be dissapointed, I was expecting bigger

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 31, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who cares

Whatever it is is probably not anything really “new” the regulars and bloggers aren’t already peripherally aware of.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is snarky and meaner than I intended.

I hope he was implying there is major news on the way for everyone’s sake.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't see him getting rookie of the month missing the number of games he has

Maybe a big shoe sponsorship (Nike?)…does Reke have one yet?

I've got squirrels in my pants!

by otis29 on Mar 31, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking that too

But I thought I read somewhere else he was already signed with Nike.

I don’t know, Scoop made it to sound as kind of a big deal but it may just be something simple.

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 31, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

My guess is the National Team

on track for the next Olympics

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd bet beer

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah lttg that sounds right. Good call.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's hardly an awful thing either.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

And apologies to Ed. That is pretty big news.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

No worries

It could still end up being othing. We’ll see, but th eOlympics thing sounds like a good possibility

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 31, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno

I heard that bit on the Rise Guys, and it almost seemed to me that Scoop was backpedaling away from something regarding Magic Johnson by deflecting it to being about Tyreke. When pressed on it, he really just avoided details with ‘tease tease tease’.

by TheFifthMookie on Mar 31, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Magic?

Isn’t he involved in one of the Arena proposals?

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't remember that he is. But I could completely wrong. I have really dropped the ball in my own arena coverage.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Natomas one I think

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes he is

and my first thought was that it had something to do with the arena, but then Scoop said it was something about Reke. Like Mookie says, maybe he was trying to deflect the attention

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 31, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I came away with the idea that Magic was going to be involved in buying the Kings, not just arena involvement. Not sure why I felt that way when I think about it, but that was my response to that segment.

by TheFifthMookie on Mar 31, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes but the real question is Magic going to make Whitey move to San Jose?

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

we already

moved FP to San Francisco.

thats a win for Sacto.

by TheFifthMookie on Mar 31, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tru dat Mookie. Tru dat!

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't listen to the show but yes I would imagine so.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used to listen all the time during my commute

but then I bought a house near my work, so I only hear them for a few minutes while brushing my teeth now. It’s a good trade.

by TheFifthMookie on Mar 31, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's a good deal.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never did

but now that Kriedler’s on there, it makes the show totally listenable. He’s the only guy I listen to on that show.

by Dub_TC on Mar 31, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Won't argue with you.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Story from the bee

Link

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 31, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

My recollection is

He ended up not showing for the actual presentations though.

With the subtext that because the NBA already favored the railyards idea he didn’t want to waste his time.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

When do they announce ROY?

??

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

In the playoffs lttg.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Scary thing about ROY is what I hear on non-Sacramento airwaves.

I’ve heard five different discussions on ROY, and only one of them said Reke should win. What a joke. I’ve heard two arguments on Jennings getting it for his teams record, and everyone loves Curry. In the end, the only thing that matters, is that Reke is the best player in this draft, and I am confident he will be the best of the bunch in the future.

by amonk81 on Mar 31, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with what you said

but if he ends with 20-5-5 it should/will be a lock, even if there is a lot of noise around it about Curry etc..

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

ROY Comparison

Looking at Tyreke’s numbers against recent ROY winners is telling of how gifted he truly is.

Pts/Reb/Asst
Tyreke Evans: 20.2/5.2/5.7
Derrick Rose: 20.3/3.9/6.3
Kevin Durant: 20.3/4.3/2.4
Brandon Roy: 16.8/4.4/4
Chris Paul: 16.1/5.1/7.8

"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."

by SactoRyan on Mar 31, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

THIS

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 31, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Double this and square it.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Derrick Rose

Those are his second year numbers

by Scirocco on Mar 31, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that might be the point.

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by pookeyguru on Mar 31, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

my bad

Im at work trying to do this quickly without letting on that I’m not working.

"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."

by SactoRyan on Mar 31, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

No offense Ed

But last time I heard someone on KHTK teasing big news, it was Koz saying that Reke and C-Webb were in the shooting stars competition. I about hit my radio.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 31, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then again

Scoop is not Koz.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 31, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

This piece is why the Kings should hire TZ

Landry should not shoot past 15 feet and other teams know it. That is why he is getting so many open looks from that range. Last night there was no pressure on him at 18 feet. They would not even guard him except to stay in front a few feet off. Whereas if he gets the ball within 12-15 feet he gets pressure and we are starting to see him get doubled when he has it at 10 feet. His game isn’t that complex to defend against and this is all very similar to what JT went through.

If I were to look at this team and decide how to guard them I would do the same thing that the Pacers did. The only person I would put real serious pressure on at mid-range is Beno.

by MustangMBS on Mar 31, 2010 10:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Exactly.

"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."

by SactoRyan on Mar 31, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

i also think

its tyreke somewhat defeicient court vision which leads to jumpers. i saw a lot of plays in which he tried to drive, was cut off, than lazily dished it off to somebody else with 5 seconds on the shot clock. when tyreke was injured, beno was able to find carl landry for lot of assists, and i mean A LOT, its safe to say at least 50 percent of his assists( during his barrage) were to carl landry.

tyreke simply needsd to learn a little pick and roll action: he gets the “pick” part, but sometimes the “roll” is the big man, not the ball handler

by Harrisonyaka on Mar 31, 2010 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree with this to some extent

Though he’s improved over the season, too often Tyreke seems to view the pick-and-roll as the screen-for-me-to-drive-after.

by lead_pipe on Mar 31, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

A little off-topic....concerning REKE-O-METER

I think a stat for the necessary number of steals needed to reach 1.5 for the season should be included. If Reke manages to get to that number by the end of the season, he’ll match the only rookie to ever average 20/5/5/1.5 and he goes by the name of MICHAEL JORDAN.

That’s pretty elusive company to be in.

by Smills9133 on Mar 31, 2010 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Lebron averaged 1.6 steals in his rookie

Jordan 2.4, Reke’s at 1.5 and as for the Big O no stats for steals were tracked back then. So its not really any more exclusive than 20/5/5, but just in case you were wondering what he needs to stay at 1.5, its 11 steals over the next 8 games, or 1.38 steals per game.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 31, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

how does the effect of a ball dominant slasher effect offensive rebounding numbers and mid-range shot % ?

Dwyane Wade, Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook and last season’s LeBron are all athletic players that drive often.

I will use DWade as an example: do his teammates take a large number of mid-range jumpers to keep the lane open for him? Does this effect their O reb #s? (I was thinking of this as in many ways, the offensive games of Udonis Haslem and Carl Landry seem similar and Haslem takes a large number of mid-range jumpers)

Nice read and analysis TZ. rec’d

by betweentheeyes on Mar 31, 2010 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

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