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Introducing the Reke-o-Meter

Thanks to Kfan in Korea and section214, we can figure just how many points, rebounds and assists Tyreke Evans needs over the rest of the season to reach the hallowed averages of 20/5/5 (which has only been accomplished by three other NBA rookies -- Michael Jordan, Oscar Robertson and LeBron James). There's a widget over on the left sidebar which will be updated after each game with the raw stats Evans needs to get by season's end to reach the marks. (This all assumes he doesn't miss any games on the backside; if he does, numbers will be adjusted accordingly.)

We'll also do a main-bar post every once in a while. Like, right now.

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This dances out to 19.2/5.2/4.0 over the rest of the season. The team has 21 games left.

(Seems like a good place to mention that in February Reke averaged an absurd 20/5.8/7. LeBron is the only player in the league averaging 20/5/7 on the season.)

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I keep saying it: he's a smaller Lebron

He’s too fast to stay in front of and too strong to actually be stopped. Now if only he had Lebron’s jumper.

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by vfettke on Mar 5, 2010 6:07 AM PST reply actions  

Tyreke needs two things...

A shooting coach and a summer of shooting 1,000 shots a day. If he doesn’t come back next year with some major technical changes in his jump shot (e.g. not falling backward two feet every time, not shooting the ball 15 feet in the air above the rim on an 18 foot shot) then the Kings and/or Tyreke haven’t done their jobs. The nice thing is that this isn’t a mystery – everyone knows exactly what he has to work on. To say the least, it will be a sight to behold if he can shoot 40%+ from 18-20ft. next season. A sight to behold…

"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."

by Mcamp49 on Mar 5, 2010 6:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I can’t imagine a guy like Tyreke is going to be satisfied with a sub-par jump shot. If he’s going to be an upper echelon player, that’s going to have to improve.

"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty

by otis29 on Mar 5, 2010 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't really think that's it.

I think the fact that Reke never really had to shoot many meant he never had to have it. Thus, the shooting didn’t come as far along as people would have preferred. But, that’s why he’s a young player.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

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by pookeyguru on Mar 5, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Mmmm...no

He’s a young player because he was born in 1989…dumbass. ;)

"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty

by otis29 on Mar 5, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Who me? Not me. :)

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 5, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I seem to recall that in an interview Tyreke said

that when he was in high school he used to jump shoot and had a pretty good shot. When he went to college he was told to stop jump shooting and start driving to the basket. Because of that, his jump shot isn’t as good as it used to be and now he has to put some work in to get it back.

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by hozr on Mar 5, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, I remember that and really, it makes absolutely no sense

“I had a good jump shot” but it atrophied? Does this make sense? No shots in practice, no jumpers in scrimmage so now I can’t do it after playing in the NBA for 6 months?

That said, the kid has the will, the drive and the talent to have a very dependable jump shot. Give him two to three seasons.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 5, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

shooting and passing

we all know he badly needs to practice shooting but what i want him to learn as well is his passing to the post and that pick and roll/pop…. i know he can pass but at times it looks that he should have passed it much earlier…..

by pakyubai on Mar 5, 2010 9:31 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

This

His post entry passes suck.

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by CaliforniaJag on Mar 5, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Tyreke definitely needs a jumper shot.

With all the great strength and skill, which has allowed him to be able to drive to the rim against virtually anyone, in some ways his game is one-dimensional. He has become predictable to other teams. They know to pack guys in the paint to guard against him. Once he gets a jumper, he will become multi-dimensional with far more shooting options. He will be much harder to defend, as he won’t be as predictable. He has made a few 3-point shot attempts in games, which suggests that he has been working on those in practice. Once he starts to make some of those, that will help in his evolution.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

He’s shown improvement on his shot already throughout the season. We rag on him for taking too many long jumpers, but if he hits a couple early, it makes life so much easier for him.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 5, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, his motion has changed A LOT from the beginning of the season.

But he needs the summer to get it right.

BRING ME STEVE KERR!!!

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by tomroadrunner on Mar 5, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with you about him taking some long jumpers early.

Clearly, Tyreke’s biggest strength has been his ability to drive to the basket, make the shot at the rim, and draw fouls. However, he needs to develop more confidence and skill in taking jump shots, if only to confound his defenders. The only way for him to get that is to take more of them, when he is open. He does have some skill at them – remember his memorable “rainbow” shot? I am with you

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

He's not lacking the confidence to shoot the long jumper

I can tell you that. He’s lacking the proper form.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 5, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

What I dislike is how high he shoots the ball on occasion.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 5, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Forget about distance on his shot for now

This summer he needs to work on speeding up his whole motion and going straight up.

Kobe sets a terrible example for young players, actually making so many bad shot attempts.

Who would we want him to copy? Hmmmm

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 5, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I want him to copy his free throw shooting form

into his jumpshot. He hits his freethrows consistently. And its cause he can’t lean backwards.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 5, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Did you see the flatfooted three he swished? lol....

There was a loose ball foul or a shot clock violation against Houston the other night and Tyreke jacked up a three after the whistle in a standing position and he swished it.

The “copy the free throw” comment reminded me of that.

by Nutterball on Mar 5, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I did see that three.

When he jumps he leans back too much.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 5, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

This is Hyperbole by the way.

I know that Mullin wasn’t short, and was fairly athletic. As were the other two.

But they survived on their great jumpers. Just wanted to clear that up before I get eaten alive. My hyperbole posts haven’t been received very well as of late… :D

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by tomroadrunner on Mar 5, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

What's the hyperbole? Is that the NFL Europe championship?

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by Ice_9ine on Mar 5, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

agree

…specifically…the catch and shoot…

by getPGwithbounce on Mar 6, 2010 2:47 AM PST up reply actions  

unless you are Shane Battier

1 guy in the league that can stop him? I can live with that. That’s just until he gets a jumpshot

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Mar 5, 2010 8:10 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

didn't Lebron's

jump shot suck when he got in the league, too?

by Dub_TC on Mar 5, 2010 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

And Magic's

"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty

by otis29 on Mar 5, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

good teams disguised his shortcomings in that area

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 5, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

And Magic was great in every other area too.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 5, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

So, is Rajon Rondo the modern day version of Magic Johnson?

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Mar 5, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Rondo wishes.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 6, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Not going to be picky

but i wish Tyreke had a good jumper, and maybe a little more athletic ability (like derrick rose) to throw down some of his drives… BUT not saying i don’t LOVEEE tyreke just being greedy ahha

by lemmetakeutodamovies on Mar 5, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Good point, but it is his Achilles heel, right now.

It is a weakness that virtually everyone can agree upon. Fortunately, it is a skill that can be improved upon with practice.

Lietothegirls also makes the point that Tyreke could speed up his game. I am not a coach, so I don’t know what is involved in his making that change. That is a complete change in his style of play, so I would imagine that might be harder for him to change. I view his slower pace as one in which he is doing some thinking and planning. Of course, that gives the other team more time to get their defense set. If / when he speeds up his game, that would give him less time to plan, thus requiring him to react more to changing game situations. I am not sure how much of this is “taught” and how much of this comes from more experience at this level of play and becoming more knowledgeable of the play of various players in the league. I would imagine that it is some combination of the two. It would be a good question for Coachie.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Tyreke doesn’t throw down a lot, but he makes so many damn layups that I don’t really mind the “poor” dunk:layup ratio.

"El once, chico. Eleven."

by Juan Primo on Mar 5, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Per Game Averages

With the widget showing total numbers left needed to reach 20/5/5, I think it would be nice to also post what they equate to in terms of Per Game averages needed as well.

On another note, I wonder if Team Tyreke reminds #13 of these numbers as well…

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by kingsfaninjapan on Mar 5, 2010 6:37 AM PST reply actions  

I think the current needed finishing averages are

19.2/5.2/4.0.

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by section214 on Mar 5, 2010 7:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup.

That is exactly what they are. But these numbers will most likely change after next game. So what I meant was that it would be nice to see the Per Game averages updated after every game. I guess I left off the “updated after every game” part.

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by kingsfaninjapan on Mar 5, 2010 7:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice

Get a couple of 30-10-10s to make it “Too Easy” please

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by Kfan in Korea on Mar 5, 2010 6:50 AM PST reply actions  

yeah, but Reke has more

Double-Doubles

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by Kfan in Korea on Mar 5, 2010 7:42 AM PST up reply actions  

It would be expected that a player would have a number of double-doubles if he also has a triple double...

because triple doubles are more rare. A triple double stands on its own.

It’s like a man proposing to a woman, but instead of giving her a 3 carat diamond engagement ring, he gives her three 1 carat diamond rings instead. Not the same. A three carat diamond ring is worth a lot more than the three one carat rings combined.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Wow, good analogy.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Mar 5, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

It is an excellent analogy.

But I disagree with any way of describing a trip dub to be better on the overall basis when a guy picks up more doubles doubles than the guy with a trip-dub. (I know that’s not the case. Reke has 7 dub-dubs and Curry 6. But, still…..)

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 5, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Collison has a triple double as well

It was almost a quadruple double with turnovers.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 5, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Props to Curry

For February Curry has averaged 21.5/5.3/7.3

Glad to see that North California has some stud rookies finally!

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on Mar 5, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Crash those boards, young man.

I keep track of Reke’s rebound total when I watch the games now.

by Eric L on Mar 5, 2010 7:39 AM PST reply actions  

I think if Tyreke focuses more on passing

Those lanes to the basket will open up more. Also, setting picks to get pesky guys like Battier off of him helps. I think he could have taken Jeffries or the other Rockets bigs to the hole a few more times in the Rockets game if he had that matchup more often.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Mar 5, 2010 8:33 AM PST reply actions  

defenses seem to be catching on and clogging the lane against tyreke....

so i agree…improve the passing and the jumpshot the sky’s the limit

by ucla06 on Mar 5, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

2 year plan

Tyreke will be as good or a better all around player than Lebron in 2 years or less. But, this all depends on him being able to establish a perimeter game and court vision.

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by JD-Hogg on Mar 5, 2010 9:02 AM PST reply actions  

Not a chance

I love me some Tyreke, but I think LeBron is going down as one of the top two players ever before all is said and done.

I can see Reke having a Dwyane Wade ceiling, which is still damn good (and a Hall of Fame type career).

"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty

by otis29 on Mar 5, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

His ceiling will be determined

by the progress of his jump shot. If that becomes a weapon, he will be scary good.

He also needs to become a better passer. He still has trouble on the pick and roll, for example. But for a rookie he’s amazing overall, and I’m glad we have him.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Mar 5, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

His assist number have steadily gone up all year.

He’s getting much better at that.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 5, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I've noticed that, too.

Now, if he could just get in a couple more rebounds a game.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Which he's been doing

January was his down month for rebounds.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 5, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

tyreke isn't nearly as atheletic as lebron or wade...he's more a bully like artest

Lebron and Wade are guys that finish above the rim constantly while tyreke usually can only get layups off. Reke’s best asset is his quickness and strength and his shiftyness when getting to the basket. Lebron also has uncanny court vision and awareness that tyreke will never have.

Wade is probably the best comparison. Tyreke doesn’t have wade’s athletic ability but he’s definitely stronger. If Tyreke improves the J and the passing his ceiling is closer to wade’s but it’ll be tough for him to get there. To me Tyreke is a hybrid of Wade and Artest.

by ucla06 on Mar 5, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Good stuff
To me Tyreke is a hybrid of Wade and Artest.

That’s a great comparison.

"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty

by otis29 on Mar 5, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

There's ome Gilbert Arenas inthere as well

I actually think Zero /Artest is closer

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 5, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Zero/Artest/Wade

Arenas and Artest are both good shooters, while Wade gets to the rim as well as Reke.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 5, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you really think

Artest is a good shooter, or Arenas? Their shooting percentages are weak, with Artest’s especially being putrid at times (coming from someone who finds Artest to be completely overrated, and soft).

by MichaelMack on Mar 5, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I do not agree with this...
Lebron also has uncanny court vision and awareness that Tyreke will never have.

It is the “will never have” part that I do not agree with. When Tyreke makes his drive to the basket with several defenders in the paint, he has an uncanny eye for how to get through or around them. When he gets stuck, he knows where the perimeter players are to pass the ball. I think that it is more a question of focus for Tyreke. A lot of his focus has been on himself and visualizing the path he is going to make for his own plays. He has been reinforced to create his own plays, because that has been successful for him in the past. I bet a lot of teams relied upon him to win games, so he developed that skill to a very high level.

Now, at the NBA level, he is discovering that his “secret weapon,” of taking players off guard by driving to the rim, is recognized by all the teams, who are coming up with ways to defend against him. He is now recognizing that he is going to have to change up his strategy to continue to “surprise” the other team. Part of that has been to pass the ball more to other players when he starts to drive to the rim. In order to do that successfully, he has had to shift some of his focus away from his own path to the basket to becoming more aware of other players on the floor. I think that he has shown a definite improvement in doing this in the past couple of months, showing that he does have good court awareness.

So, I believe that Tyreke can and will demonstrate the uncanny court vision and awareness that is demonstrated by some players in the league. This is his first year. As the players get to know each other better, they will each learn each others sweet spots. Tyreke will become more aware where the players are located on the court, as passing becomes an important skill in his tool box.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Good thoughts

to really succeed he’ll have to develop a mid range pull up jumper. It he has that in his tool box he can either shoot or pass from that 8-12 foot range.

Right now teams are 99% sure he’s going all the way to the rim and collapsing in on him with two or even three guys.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 5, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree 100%

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

While Reke will become a better passer and smarter player...

I see court vision/awareness as something that’s more natural like athletic ability. Guys like Lebron/Nash/Paul/JKidd on a nightly basis make passes that surprise even us watching on TV. It’s a hard thing to learn but you’re right in saying it can be learned.

I’m in no way trying to say Evans will not become a great play maker or passer. I’m more comparing his vision to the vision of the best passers in the game today. I think Evans will have the type of vision that a guy like Wade has…still on the elite level but still a step below the best.

by ucla06 on Mar 5, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with you that court vision/awareness is more like a natural athletic ability.

I agree with you that it is a hard thing to learn, and probably impossible, if one does not have the natural aptitude. What I am saying about Tyreke is two things:

1. He has learned to place an inordinate amount of his visual focus on the path he is going to make for himself, taking in minutia of player positions along that path. He is like a predator, focusing in on his prey.

2. When he has had to adapt his play to pass the ball to perimeter players, he has displayed that he is aware of their positions.

I am not going to disagree with you, Tyreke has passed up open perimeter shooters to pursue his own line to the basket, sometimes to his detriment. Whether that is an indication that he does not have the court vision ability that you mention, or whether that is an indication that he has learned to narrow his focus from past success of driving to the rim is unclear to me. I do believe, that as he changes up his game strategy, which includes passing more, his visual focus will change to paying more attention to where guys are located rather than thinking about what path he will take to get to the basket. I am just not ready to say that he will never have that ability, because I not so sure he doesn’t already have the aptitude for it.

I am in complete agreement with you that he will never be a player like Nash or JKidd, as his style is very different from theirs.

For the most part, I see that we are pretty much in agreement about Tyreke and our understanding of court vision.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh, no.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Mar 5, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

That might be a little much. But I think he has a chance to be

comparable. But LeBron is a literal freak of nature. He SHOULD NOT be the big, strong, fast, and skilled. He doesn’t fit into any positions on the court, so they just stick him at the 3. But he is more of a 1234 than a 3. Tyreke can be a 123, but not a 1234 like LeBron is.

I have no idea if I made any sense whatsoever, haha

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by tomroadrunner on Mar 5, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

LeBron's stats at the 4 this year

Have been absolutely dominant. He’s strong and long enough to guard 4s, and he’s way too quick and athletic for them on the other end of the court. I’d stick him there personally.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 5, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

You make sense.

I agree with you that Tyreke is a 1 or 2 right now. I am not so sure, about the 3. He really lacks that jumper. I would not rule out the 4 position for Tyreke. Have you watched him guard people? The guy can be all over them, similar to Artest.

I see a lot of similarities of Tyreke to LeBron. True, LeBron is a physical freak of nature, but Tyreke is also a freak in his own right. I am more apt to give Tyreke some time to develop his game, before passing any judgment on his future development.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

In order to do it

I think boards are the main thing…grabbing 5 boards a game isnt easy for a gaurd

by Error on Mar 5, 2010 9:03 AM PST reply actions  

Not your average guard though.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Mar 5, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

yup in the over 5 rbs for guards you are looking at

kidd 5.5, kobe 5.3, jrich 5.3, westbrook 5.1, and then evans at 4.9 and that’s all i think

by ucla06 on Mar 5, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Great Idea

I was thinking about busting out my algebra skills to do this myself…. glad I don’t have to do that.

Go Reke Go!

by KeonClark on Mar 5, 2010 10:23 AM PST reply actions  

So are we.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Mar 5, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope he doesn't see this

I don’t like stat hunting, I think it leads to bad basketball.
BUT
I’d much rather have us lie a bit on the assist and rebound numbers. The points will come if he doesn’t force like the other night.

His goals should be 6 rebounds and 6 assists every game, the rest will happen on its own.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 5, 2010 10:23 AM PST reply actions  

bad basketball leads to high picks

that’s how we got Tyreke in the first place.

on the other side, bad basketball leads to low morale, low confidence and franchise question marks, getting beat up by the media, and less player development.

Tough to figure out what to root for. Last year was unbearable and so was the beating we took from the media as the league’s worst team. But then again, landing Tyreke has been quite a turn-around.

Worth it?

by KeonClark on Mar 5, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm more concerned about the development aspect

His development – and I don’t think stat hunting helps. If he works on his actual game the stats will naturally come IMO.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 5, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

he is getting these numbers naturally already

he has a chance to be in rarified company. I say go for it, it is life accomplishment in just his first year and in some ways surpasses the RoY award if not guarantee ing it outright.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 5, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Tyreke is already aware of this.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 5, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

And I'm sure that the Maloofs have made the coaching staff aware of it also.

They need the stats to pump up their sales promotion. It started before the season with the “And a High Draft Pick” publisity campaign. Now, they have the Mayor involved. Without an all-star on the team, having Reke get ROY and the all-time rookie stat’s line, would light up their faces and their commercials.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Mar 5, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Reke has stated that he wants to be improve, win and be a hall of famer.

I don’t think we need to worry about Reke improving every summer. He will work on the jumpshot, and if he wants to completely dominate, he should eventually learn how to work from the post too. The sky is the limit with this kid, and it’s absurd that he is this good during his FIRST year.

I love Reke. I love Reke…. repeat as many times as you would like.

by amonk81 on Mar 5, 2010 11:22 AM PST reply actions  

Pronounced

Is it (reek-oh-meter) or (reek-ahm-iter)?

by Nutterball on Mar 5, 2010 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

I vote for ahm

reeeek – o- meter sounds like we are measuring how much something stinks

"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson

by Bluejohn on Mar 5, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I like reek-ahm-iter

Sounds more scientific.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

"ahm"

I like Reek-ahm-iter more too.

by Nutterball on Mar 5, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I look for Spencer, JT, Donte, Casspi, and Brockman to improve also

I wish Spencer could improve a bit faster but i guess it takes time. It’d be so awesome if all of them could develop nicely, thats a starting lineup + 1 good 6th man. Brockman should work with Tyreke on the jumpshot..

Whats the update on Brockman anyways? i haven’t heard anything about him in a while

by Smooth Criminal on Mar 5, 2010 1:49 PM PST reply actions  

Kelly Dwyer (as usual) says it best:
1. Tyreke Evans(notes)

He’s been the best player playing in his first season in the NBA since the beginning of the year? How else should I put it to you?

Stephen Curry(notes) was fantastic last month. I can’t wait to tune into Warrior games to see that cat dance, but Evans has been better. Better not because he’s been more consistent, but better because he’s been better. And for longer. And speaking of things I cannot wait to see; imagine this kid with a few years’ worth of smarts in his breast pocket. Evans is going to break some hearts, 29 teams at a time.

Ayup KD. Ayup.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 5, 2010 2:49 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Mar 5, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

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