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how many moral victories can a team take

Phil Jackson, after treatment for a kidney stone "When the anesthesiologist leaned over me, he said "We named your kidney stone Kobe because it's not passing."

by Ellimist on Mar 5, 2010 8:16 PM PST reply actions  

whats are moral record right now?

"Oh boy! If you don't like that you don't like Kings basketball"-Peaches

by AkaP on Mar 5, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

*is our

"Oh boy! If you don't like that you don't like Kings basketball"-Peaches

by AkaP on Mar 5, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

a lot more than the number of ass-kicking losses a team can take

that’s for sure

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 5, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure we get a moral victory for this one

the comeback was cute and all, but those possessions down the stretch were horrific.

Maybe a moral overtime?

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Mar 5, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

My vote for post of the week

Best reoccuering sketch, except the alien sports anchor

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Mar 5, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

A moral overtime?

That’s pretty good.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Mar 5, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Take the total number of games in the season
  • Subtract the blowout losses (Whatever the point definition is for a blowout)
  • Subtract the losses where fans use cuss words against the opponents
  • Subtract the losses where fans use cuss words against our team players
  • Whatever is remaining is the moral victory total for the team

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 6, 2010 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Good game Kings

Let’s keep up the good play and beat the Thunder on Sunday!

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 5, 2010 8:16 PM PST reply actions  

I'd say this was a successful road trip

1-2 against OKC, Rox, & Dallas. I’ll take that.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Mar 5, 2010 8:21 PM PST reply actions  

& no blowouts

not bad

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Mar 5, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Not bad at all. Actually, very encouraging that the team seems to be improving.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

butbutbut

the minutes went exactly as CC’s “analysis” said they should!!! How could we lose!?!?!?!?

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Mar 5, 2010 8:22 PM PST reply actions  

The car is blue

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 5, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

No this is Blue


You’re my boy Blue!

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Mar 5, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

It's because Tyreke, Beno and Cisco only combined for 42 points

if they’d gotten 50 and made up for the loss of Kevin, we’d have gone to overtime.

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 5, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

cisco

ouch.

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Mar 5, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

No, the combined points to make 50 came from 4 players, not three.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

you fell in the casm

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 5, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you mean that I fell in the casm?

You were the one who said if they had gotten 50, we’d have gone to overtime. Those 50 points came from Tyreke 17.4, Martin 19.8, Udrih 8.3, and Garcia 4.15. You are only combining 3 players for 42. You need to add another player to fill in for Martin. If you do, then we would have won the game, which we did not. So, the loss had nothing to do with trading Martin.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Sarcasm

As in, you missed the point of it being a joke.

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 5, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, I fell into the sar - chasm.

I missed it. I thought you were being serious.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Ouch, you fell hard. Sorry

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 5, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

1 reb =(

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Mar 5, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I know that's bad

He’s going to need 9 rebounds plus next game

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Mar 5, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

needs to average 5.4 a game for the last 20

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 5, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Reke needs

384 points, 77 assists and 108 rebounds. 20 games to go.

The Reke-O-Meter will take a while to update. I’d guess.

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 5, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we need to do it manually

I’ll see if I can update it.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 5, 2010 11:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

Updated. Assists and Points shouldn’t be a problem, Rebounds will be.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 5, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think he can afford to have another game much under 5

if we want to keep the 20/5/5 alive. He’ll probably have to get a couple 10+ rebound games. Conserted effort on the boards Reke!

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 5, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions  

The 20 5 & 5 is nice

But if it isn’t done in the natural flow it doesn’t mean much if anything.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 6, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

historically it means alot

and in an otherwise meaningless season, it brings more good than a forced stat brings in harm.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 6, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if averaging 4.95 rebounds will be enough for the stat heads

Since right now he’s averaging 4.85 and it says 4.9. If that’s the case, he only needs 105 rebounds.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 7, 2010 6:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Every season has meaning. Last season has meaning.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 8, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Good game over all. I'm just glad this team has that never give up mentality...

I know all you guys remember last season, so many blowouts!

You know what I really love, I really love the Lacoste Sport Sweat suit man. The one that looks like the orange that's the same color as fruit loop orange! Houses like clovers, houses like clovers whatever that man says! Twinkle, Stars, Diamonds, Emeralds. We got every color bruh! It's fu@#in crazy man. This fool walked up to me the other day, and was like blood, where did you get them at yo? What, you made them? I said, man we don't make nothin man! We don't make nothin man. We just make your girl give h%@d. When she sees these on sight. She never thought they come in size twelves man. I wear size twelves man!

by slamson on Mar 5, 2010 8:28 PM PST reply actions  

and once again

the 3rd quarter is our downfall.

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Mar 5, 2010 8:29 PM PST reply actions  

It was meant to happen

We played a very good first half, especially that first quarter. It just happens to be that the Mavs came out playing like the 2nd-3rd best team in the West that they are. They forced TOs and the Kings just couldn’t respond.

On this one, I give the Mavs a lot of credit, which in turn speaks volumes to how the Kings played

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 5, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Was anyone surprised that we went small?

When Haywood went out at the 4 minute mark of the 1st, Nowitzki was the only Mav with a rebound and he only had 2. For the Kings, Hawes had 5, Landry had 2, and Casspi had 1. Once we went small to match the Dallas lineup we lost our rebounding edge and our dominence in the paint. We ended up out rebounding Dallas by 5 and outscoring them by 2 in the paint.

We have to learn how to attack the zone. Which we didn’t do well.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Mar 5, 2010 8:44 PM PST reply actions  

I wasn't surprised, but I was a little disappointed

PW always seems willing to have the matchups dictated to him, its kind of odd.

Part of it is, Hawes isn’t a low post threat, even against a little guy, so having him in isn’t really a mismatch on offense when another team goes small, and he can then be a liability on defense depending on the matchups.

And we don’t generally attack zones well with Hawes off the floor, that should get better with experience though.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Mar 5, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Even when he was on the floor

I don’t remember going to him for the offense. A lot of our TOs were caused by that zone.

In terms of matching up, I thought the 3 guard lineup of the Mavs were really changing the tempo of the game so it looked like a good move. I can’t remember the specific lineups so I could be wrong about te players out there when we decided to go small.

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 5, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought our 3 guards still didn't have the speed to match Dallas'

and, if we had maintained the rebound advantage the Dallas’ guard wouldn’t have had the same fast break advantage.

I’m not saying it was the wrong thing to do, going small to match up, just that it didn’t work out as well as PW would have hoped. And, I wouldn’t have gone to it as quickly. I probably would have had Ime and Beno racing back on defense after every shot and have Dallas prove they could beat us on the break first.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Mar 5, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

You need to add Kidd to your list

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Mar 6, 2010 2:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Kidd's a stud

Go Bears!

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 6, 2010 4:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Toni Braxton disagree's.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 6, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

He makes Vlade look like an amateur flopper

"If my aunt had a set of nuts, she'd be my uncle"

by want2win on Mar 6, 2010 6:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Hawes was weak matched up against Najera

Numbers didn’t tell the story. JT would have been good out there and I think PW had too short a leash with Greene and Casspi, both of whom struggled a bit offensively but who made things happen.

Agreed on the zone though, a little ball movement would have gone a long way.

by nbrans on Mar 5, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Greene has been rushing everything again.

I still think he was at the heart of the rotation fiasco that got Spencer benched.

Casspi and Tyreke are playing on dead legs. It might be time to put Noc back in the starting lineup as long as he’s told to run some offense before he starts jacking up shots.

If Spencer is only going to get the ball 17 ft from the rim, yes I’d rather see JT. Getting Spencer the ball while moving thru the paint or just inside the FT line and I’ll take Spencer. Spencer at the FT line to break up the zone, is the best option we have.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Mar 5, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

young team playing young

hats off to Noce he was the dynamo that led the comeback. He gets the Kings crown tip (the equivalent of a Tommy point).

The cataylyst for the Mavs was Roddy Beubois. He made the game close and the vets played into the win. Impresiive performance for the rookie.

The Kings need to learn to play 4 quaters, 48 minutes. And an inside presence which will come in time. sometime. soon I hope.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 5, 2010 9:46 PM PST reply actions  

Roddy Beubois was very impressive tonight.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 5, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Beaubois was off the hook.

Lightening in a bottle with that one. Averaging almost a point a minute, 22 points in 24 minutes, shooting at 64% and 50% from the 3 point line. Damn nice rookie!

by MustangMBS on Mar 5, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I always wondered how Beaubois got stuck on the bench

after he opened the season so strong. He made the most out of his minutes as a starter, and his teammates were raving about him. And then they had their injured players back, and he got a long string of DNP-CD. Kudos to him for keeping his confidence. Too bad he had to go off against us….

Dunking Dutchman

by RikSmits on Mar 5, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Jason Kidd, Jason Terry, now Caron Butler, before Josh Howard

Mavs have an experience veteran squad. Rookie goes last and ego wise others get the start ahead of him as these guys have been to All-Sar game.

His time will come, he needs seasoning, this is a great oppurtunity for him to learn. He is the youngest guy on that old team at 22. They have one other guy (Barea?) who is less than 28.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 6, 2010 7:56 AM PST up reply actions  

On a side note...

LA Fakers got a serious smackdown. Held to 36% shooting and 17% 3-point shooting by Charlotte. Only had 83 points to Charlotte’s 98. Nice job Bobcats!

by MustangMBS on Mar 5, 2010 10:07 PM PST reply actions  

I just got one litle thing to say about the Lakers

Beat FUCK LA.

Omar Minaya is my hero!
"I'm not even allowed in Mexico."

by Scott Coleman on Mar 5, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

You should be happy to know that they got that tonight.

by MustangMBS on Mar 5, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The Charlotte Jordainaires. Yep Yep Yep you heard it here first.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 6, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

They always seem to lose to the Bobcats

I always expect them to lose.

"Greg Ostertag is one of the finest centers in the history of Western Civilization." - Bill Walton

by submison on Mar 5, 2010 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Watched the game on replay

This team is well moral victories but this road trip showed a much improved team team. They are playing much better team ball, we were in a position to win the game which I didn’t expect. TO’s, uninspired free throws and a third quarter collapse prob ably cost us the game.

Carl Landry has made a big difference, the guys look like they are having fun and they are out of the dis-spirited funk they were in earlier in the year. I thought the whole road trip was encouraging especially the ugly win in Houston which after tonight is looking pretty good. I was expecting a blow out and overall the Kings played better than I expected.

"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson

by Bluejohn on Mar 6, 2010 12:05 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah,

lots to like on this road trip. Especially when you take Reke’s poor play into account.

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 6, 2010 12:36 AM PST up reply actions  

WOW! Just came back from the airport!

Did not expect Noce to play, much less 25mins, after that string of DNP-CD’s.

Im doubly glad he had a good outing, 15 pts in 6-11FG and 2-4 3PT, 6 rebs, 1 assist, 1 steal and deent D on Nowitzki. Maybe this earns him more PT in the next game.

Really wish we won tho. :-)

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 6, 2010 12:27 AM PST reply actions  

Well he was suspended the last two games.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 6, 2010 12:34 AM PST up reply actions  

If that's what you meant by DNP-CDs.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 6, 2010 12:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Noc hasn't played in a lot more games than just the last two games.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 6, 2010 12:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah, he got 2 DNP-CD's in last week which sanwiched a 5 min outing...

before he was even suspended. He was basically at the end of the bench, coming off way after McGuire and Dorsey.

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 6, 2010 5:07 AM PST up reply actions  

He really played with a lot of heart. I was impressed.

I find it pretty funny watching him defend Dirk, but he did a good job. It probably would’ve been a blowout if it wasn’t for Nocioni.

by Mike11188 on Mar 6, 2010 3:08 AM PST up reply actions  

He used to defend Dirk when he was with Chicago.

Tyrus Thomas would start out on Dirk, then Noce, then sometimes Deng.

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 6, 2010 5:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Noc played well

would like to see him take up some of the slack left by the wall hitting rookies.

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 6, 2010 4:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Omri Casspi almost redeemed himself a little with those two putbacks early in the fourth. Then he started trying to play point guard again… oh well, Tyreke has been making some really bad decisions late in the game as well.

by Mike11188 on Mar 6, 2010 2:30 AM PST reply actions  

Omri gives plenty of ammo

to the opinion, which I agree with, that he’s not a guard, he’s a small forward.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Mar 6, 2010 6:56 AM PST up reply actions  

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