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The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly Weeks 18 and 19

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Carl Landry is wearing a Top Hat. Your Argument is Invalid.

It was a busy two weeks for me, so this version of the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly encompasses the last two weeks.  Better late than never right?

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The Good:

1. Carl Landry

See Player of the Week

2. Spencer Hawes

Ever since his benching against Detroit and JT's injury, Spencer has been playing like the Spencer we've been wanting to see all year.  He's defending like a 7 footer, he's rebounding like a 7 footer, and he's making the Kings offense better by hitting shots and cutters.  His attitude has seemingly changed, and for the better.  Let's hope that this is the Spencer we see for the rest of the year.  With JT coming back soon, it will be interesting to see how it affects Spencer's minutes.  I hope not for the worse unless JT starts playing like he was at the beginning of the year.

3. The return of the Effort of the 1st half of the year

Those two practice days after the Detroit game really helped the Kings and in the subsequent games, they've been playing like the team that got us so excited at the beginning of the year.  Once again it started with a win against Utah, and we beat a team we should have beat in the Clippers, held our own against the Thunder and Mavs, and got a quality (if ugly) road win against Houston.  This is a team we can expect to be competing in games for the rest of the year.

4. Wabeno Udrih

Beno has returned in spectacular form since being given a major role since Kevin's departure.  His shots are falling again, he's playing good defense, and he's become one of the team's de facto leaders on the court.  The Beno we've seen this year has been worthy of his contract.  Hopefully we continue to see this Beno for the rest of his time here in Sacramento.

5. Francisco Garcia's return to health

Francisco has been playing like a guy who never had his wrist broken.  He's hitting shots (even from 40 feet), playing aggressive defense, and trying to make the same boneheaded plays we know he can.  And you know the guys on the team respect him.  He's the teams leader, and has the young guys respect in a way Kevin never did.  It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Cisco hadn't broken his wrist and could've played all year.  Our record would've been a few games better I think. 

6. Sean May

I've got to hand it to Sean.  He comes in and tries to make an impact on the game.  And he has been, in key situations too.  Hitting his patented long-range jumper, grabbing key rebounders, even blocking a shot or two.  May likely isn't part of the Kings future, but he definitely has a place in this league, and I think could start or be a key rotation guy for some teams.

7. Garrett Temple

From what little I've seen of Garrett Temple, he looks to have been a decent pickup for a 10 day contract.  I wonder if we'll lock him up for the rest of the season to keep our guard depth.  Hopefully and more importantly though, players like Temple help show the organization how useful the Developmental League can be.  I hope the Kings become more hands-on with their D-League affiliate.  It could be a nice place to send some young guys to in the next couple of years to work on different aspects of their games.

8. Ime Udoka's Defense

His offense isn't always there, but Ime is always giving his all when he's on the court.  Of the Kings on minimum contracts this year, Ime is the one I'd most like to see come back next year, because I think having a guy like that in practice and on the court is invaluable.  Playing against bad defenders in practice simply leads to bad habits.

9. Limiting Turnovers

Other than the Maverick and Phoenix games, the Kings have been doing a great job at limiting their turnovers.  They've had 3 games under 10, and no more than 13 in all but two games (Dallas and Phoenix).  I think a lot of this has to do with the new and old players finally developing some chemistry and learning each others games.

10. The Peach-quel Official T-Shirt.

This shirt is simply awesome. I want to personally thank M4L for such an awesome shirt.  Make sure to buy your shirt and/or tickets to the Peach-quel on March 19th, and I'll see you there.  Should be a fun game.

The Bad:

1. Omri Casspi is Tired

Omri has become a relative non-factor as of late.  His shots aren't falling, he's not rebounding as well, he's missing assignments on defense.  It's been sort of disappointing after the hot start he had, but he's still a top notch rookie and a guy who I think will be a key building block in our future.  He definitely needs to work on his conditioning this summer so he can last longer next year, and probably get some more muscle definition. 

2. Donté Greene

Since Cisco's return, Donté has seen his minutes take a BIG hit.  After a 42 minute performance against Phoenix, he's had one DNP-CD, and the most minutes he's played have been 24.  His offense hasn't been that great, and more importantly his defense has seemed to regress as of late, and I think thats a big factor as to why we're not seeing more of Donté on the court.  No matter what happens the rest of the season though, this years Buckéts has been a huge improvement over last years version, and I hope we see the same type of improvement next year.  He has the highest ceiling on the Kings besides Tyreke in my opinion.

3. Tyreke Evans Free Throw shooting

Tyreke has been fairly consistent all year in most areas of his game, but as of late, his free throw stroke has been suffering.  He's getting to the line more than ever (10.7 FTA in last 7 games, season average is 6.6), but he's only converting on 58.9% of his Free Throws over that same time span.  For a guy shooting in the mid 70s for the year (and thats after this atrocious stretch), thats a big difference.  Tyreke needs to regain his confidence at the line, because getting there and making them is a big part of his game.

4. Kings Switch Defense

This has been horrible all year.  Tyreke especially is really bad at it, often settling to guard the nearest player and leaving the player he should have switched on wide open (Aaron Brooks wide open three at buzzer for example).  This next year the Kings and Westphal desperately need to work on improving the teams defense, not so much the individual players defense, but the concept of team defense.  Pick and Roll defense especially.

5. Andres Nocioni

Noc has seen limited playing time as of late, and although he played well against Dallas, he stunk whenever else had had been inserted into the lineup and as such his minutes have disappeared.  I really hope Noc doesn't become the Kings latest unloadable albatross of a contract, because the Kings need him to be productive if they can't trade him.  Although I suspect its not for lack of trying.

The Ugly:

1. Detroit loss at Home

Detroit is a team that is much better on paper than it actually is in reality.  Still though, to go down by 30 to a team like this at Home is unacceptable, regardless of whether you came back to make it look a lot closer than it was.  Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince were able to do pretty much whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted, and the Kings offense could not get anything going other than Tyreke and Mandry.

2. 2nd Half of the Phoenix game

After playing the Suns better than we had all year in the 1st half, the Kings decided to stop playing offense or defense in the 2nd half and ended up losing by 16, when they were up at halftime.  Phoenix has definitely had our number this year, but its still not acceptable to get out of the flow of your offense that much.  Effort needs to be consistent for 48 minutes on both ends of the floor, not just when its convenient.

3. The Entire Houston Game

Yes we won, but this was the ugliest game I have ever seen.  Neither team could get anything going on offense.  Tyreke was an absolute non-factor, and only Carl Landry and Cisco had games that you could call good and not be called crazy.  Even though the defense seemed improved, the Kings let the Rockets get back in it in the final seconds, and then when Tyreke failed to switch a screen, left Aaron Brooks (League Leader in 3PM, although he went 2-13 that night) with a wide open 3 that would have sent this game to overtime.  Luckily, the shot missed, like pretty much everything else that night, and this game would have been a whole lot uglier if the Kings hadn't won.

4. Defensive Rebounding

The Kings currently suck at Defensive Rebounding.  On the offensive glass they're quite good, but with JT and Brock Ness out, the defensive rebounding, bad all year, has become ugly.  Only Omri and Tyreke are above average rebounders for their position, and they're not the guys that are usually in a good position for a rebound.  Spencer has picked up the pace as of late, but the team as a whole is not good.  This was especially evident in the Thunder game, which we should have won, had we not allowed so many 2nd chance points.  If anyone can find me the league leaders in giving up 2nd chance points, I'd be willing to bet that the Kings were top 5.

5. Jason Thompson's Injury

Jason Thompson broke two vertebrae in his back against Detroit and has missed his first NBA games due to injury.  Ironman has become damaged, but hopefully we'll see him again soon.

6. The Spencer v. Westphal debacle

Spencer's benching during the Detroit game was an ugly affair.  Fortunately it seems like a lot of it was blown out of proportion, and in all likelihood we probably didn't get the full story, and Westphal being in a bad mood because of his wife could have been a factor, but I'm glad that this is behind us and that Spencer has been playing well ever since it.

Player of the Past Two Weeks:

Carl Landry

18.4 PPG, .524 FG%, 6.6 FTA, .935 FT%, 6.7 RPG, 1 APG

Carl Landry has added a new dynamic to the Kings offense.  The Kings finally have a low post presence that teams have to respect, and I think a big reason we're seeing less stagnation in our offense as of late is because we've been able to dump it down low to Big Carl when we need points and he's either able to score or draw the foul.  And drawing the foul for him has basically been getting two points.  This guy is a ridiculous FT shooter for a big man.  The only PFs who shoot better at Free throws than Landry are David West and Dirk Nowitzki, and Landry draws more attempts than West.  This guy has it all offensively.  Inside, Outside, can hit the glass.  He works hard on defense too, although his defensive rebounding leaves something to be desired.  Still though, you can't help but loving Mandry and what he brings to this team.

Comments of the Week:

How can a team that employs Sean May be thin up front?

by section214 on Feb 25, 2010 4:17 PM PST reply actions   25 recs

Kevin was all like :

Meanwhile Landry was just like:

by Apoet on Mar 3, 2010 8:26 PM PST reply actions   13 recs

Highlights of the Weeks:

The Chest-Bump of Glory

And Landry's hustle leads to epic Cisco 3.

Caption Contest:

Last Week's Winner: section214 AGAIN

Spencer Hawes misses the dunk attempt and instantly qualifies for the 2011 Slam Dunk Contest.

Last Week's Runner-Up: Tie between Andy Sims 

"I’ll bet you two guys think I’m gonna make this."

And SeattleRoyalty


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This Week's Picture:
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Lottery Projection and Profile of the Week:

Current Projected Lottery Position: Tied for 5th with New York and Detroit

Current Lottery Range: 3rd - 8th

Draft Profile: Wesley Johnson, 6'7, 195 lbs, SF, Junior, Syracuse

Like Epke Udoh last week, Johnson has benefited greatly from his transfer to Syracuse from Iowa State.  He's shooting the ball better, rebounding a lot better (he's a very good rebounder for his size), getting more assists and turning the ball over less, and he's playing better defense.  His athleticism, size and length make him a tenacious defender, and he's averaging almost 2 blocks and steals a game (each, not together).  He's improved on his 3 point shooting each year in college and is shooting at around a 39-40% clip this year, mainly because he's taking less threes, and settling for the more efficient ones instead.  He's extremely efficient and handles himself like a veteran.  He'll probably be one of the more NBA ready players in the Draft.  He does have some downsides though.  He doesn't really get to the line all that much despite his great athleticism, and he'll be 23 by the time the season starts next year.  Still, Johnson would be another very versatile player for the Kings to pickup and could probably play the 2 or the 3. (He'd probably play the 2 on the Kings).

2nd Draft Profile: Evan Turner, 6'7, 205 lbs, SG/SF, Junior Ohio State

With a great year so far, Turner has climbed the draft boards and has been sitting comfortably in the #2 position on a few mocks for quite a while.  And for good reason. The guy is really good.  In fact, if you look at some of his strengths (versatility, defense, ability to create a shot, creating for others) and his weaknesses (turnover prone, 3 point shot, average explosiveness) you create a picture that looks much like Tyreke Evans.  And an Evans/Turner backcourt would be extremely versatile and talented.  Both are great rebounders for their position.  Both can create for others.  Both can create for themselves.  Both have the talent to be great defenders.  Tyreke can get to the rim at well, Turner has a great mid-range jumper.  The problem lies in whether you see them as being too similar and needing the ball in their hands to be effective.  It's a valid question. 

Next Week's Profile: John Wall

And Nostradumbass Prediction for Next Week:

v. Oklahoma City 3/7 W (The Kings played the Thunder close in Oklahoma City, and this time we have Noc to frustrate the heck out of Durant.  Hopefully we do a better job on Westbrook and can pull this one out.)

@ Portland 3/9 L (The Blazers seemingly have the Kings number.  And now that they have a few more weapons back, I don't think we can beat them at home.)

v. Toronto 3/10 W (The Kings played this team well for 3 quarters in Toronto without Carl Landry, and I think that this is exactly the kind of team that Landry might play well against.  Landry will make Bosh work on both ends of the floor.)

v Portland 3/12 W (I think that Tuesday's eventual loss and the home court will finally spur the Kings to a victory over Portland.)

Nostradumbass Record for the Season 36-26 (Similar winning Percentage to the Portland Trail Blazers)

 

P.S.  I have a question for you readers.  Is there anything you would like to see changed or added in the Good, the Bad and the Ugly?  What do you like most? What do you like least?  Any feedback at all is appreciated.

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Omri to Kevin: Stop blowing in my ear Kev. I told you, I am not going to let you touch my ball.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 7, 2010 8:03 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Kev – You ain’t gettin’ by me Jewnior.
Omri – Soft

by brianmc27 on Mar 7, 2010 8:41 AM PST reply actions  

Caption:

Referee tries to figure out what is worse. Being tired, mental, or just bored from watching this crappy game.

by MustangMBS on Mar 7, 2010 8:47 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

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Referee thinks to himself, One of these guys can’t defend and the other is too tired to score. God this is pointless!

by MustangMBS on Mar 7, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

That dude definitely looks unhappy.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Mar 7, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice job on the Good, Bad, Ugly, Player of the Week, Comments, and Highlights.

My only minor criticism:

  • The Entire Houston Game – Since Kings won it, I would not have put it into the ugly category. A win is never ugly.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 7, 2010 8:54 AM PST reply actions  

Yes

Wins can be ugly. That game was not fun to watch. I’m glad it was a win though.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 7, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

ah the order of the universe is now complete - StR has GB&U back

Landry has been a welcome highlight to this second half of the season and a much needed inside addtion. He has adapted well and should only get better. Great choice for player of the week. He has consistency and yes, his FT shooting makes him a 4th Q closer.

Beno – Tyreke’s support comment this week speaks volumes. Your pointing out that he has earned his MLE is right on. He has kept the team in many games with his offense and his defense is decent enough. After hating on him last year I have finally joined lttg and the rest of you in becoming a BenoFan.

The rookies have all hit the wall (how many Wall hits the wall comments in the second half of next season?). I include Buckéts in that group. Tyreke is so darn good and is on the RoY mission he can’t afford to upset the blueprint and the Kings can’t afford to have him not in the game. That said, the future of Kings basketball is looking good.

Coaching: how do you all rank this? Good Bad or Ugly? After this past two weeks – the Westphal/Spencer conflit, the wins – ugly wins count if ugly losses count – I give the bench staff a Good.

Caption: Omii: Yes, I am tired but humming a lullaby defense isn’t going to work on me. Thorpe teach you that?

by betweentheeyes on Mar 7, 2010 8:59 AM PST reply actions  

I'd put the coaching in good

Although I am somewhat perplexed that Westphal continuously tries to matchup with other teams and doesn’t try to dictate the matchups himself. I thought Spencer played well against Dallas, but once Dallas went small ball, he took Spencer out. It’s perplexing.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 7, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

to me he gets a pass on the rest of the season

He is playing with house money. The team is performing better than expected. Improvement is evident. My guess is that he is still trying to figure out what he has and seeing how it matches up. He has tightened the rotation somewhat, next year he will tighten it up more and still have a fairly different roster to figure out, the demands for more improvement will dictate it.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 7, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh he definitely gets a pass on the rest of the season

This has been the best coaching staff we’ve had since Adelman.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 7, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

that's the Natting truth

though I still get irked by the quantity of coaches: Westphal, Eyens, Elie, Robinson, Abdur-Rahim, Gates and Coachie Carril. 7 coaches, 15 players. It’s like running a business wth one president and 6 vice presidents, lots of middle management.

Not a complaint, It is just something I don’t understand. I am so old skool I remember player-coaches.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 7, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I think its beneficial to a young team

And guys like Westphal, Elie, SAR and Robinson were all good players, so that helps them relate as well.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 7, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

For clarification

I think I like more coaches more for a young team, because it shows more of a focus towards development. For more experienced teams in the hunt, a smaller more powerful coaching staff would seem to be in order. I don’t know how long Coachie is going to want to stay, and Elie is a probable future head coach himself, as well as possibly Gates.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 7, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it is great there are so many coaches.

That just means there is a lot of one-on-one attention. There is only one head coach and he is in charge. The six assistant coaches answer to him.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 7, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

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Omri: Kev, you don’t find it the least bit ironic that you play a matador defense and one of your new team colors is red?

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by vfettke on Mar 7, 2010 9:31 AM PST reply actions  

Caption:

“Shorts and black socks pulled all the way up? Yeah, you’re Jewish.”

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Mar 7, 2010 9:46 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

how andysim-itic

rec’d. I think we should put black high top Chuck Taylors in Omri’s locker.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 7, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

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Omri channels his inner Manute Bol Offensive game, while Kevin Martin channels his inner George Gervin Defensive game. Net result: Referee falls asleep.

Mitch Richmond - All-Time leader in shots taken with a toe on the three point line. True Story...You can look it up.

by nolookpass432 on Mar 7, 2010 10:13 AM PST reply actions  

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Omri: Hey Kev, I think Peaches has a man crush on you.
Kevin: Huh? What? Why?
Omri: Because he still dedicates an hour of his show talking about how mentally soft you are.
Kevin: Oh Peaches….

the Bene Gesserit rite.

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

Frank Herbert, Dune

by SeattleRoyalty on Mar 7, 2010 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

Feedback

This is easily my favorite post each week. It’s a useful, and often entertaining summary that can fuel a healthy debate about the team we love.

I like the addition of the draft analysis and although I think the caption contest is the most distracting element, I love what contributors come up with for it.

Ziller, Section, EG, and Aykis. This site is in great hands!!

the Bene Gesserit rite.

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

Frank Herbert, Dune

by SeattleRoyalty on Mar 7, 2010 10:28 AM PST reply actions  

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Referee: “That’s probably a foul, but I am already losing money taking the over on this game, so I’m not gonna call a damn thing. The jew kid will have to do it on his own.”

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Mar 7, 2010 10:47 AM PST reply actions  

Suggestion

I love GB&U but when you award the winner of the caption contest, can you include the original image so we don’t have go looking for last week’s GB&U post?

Other than that.. keep up the good work.

by Deez on Mar 7, 2010 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

Hmm...

Is it just me, or does Noc’s pic look more like if him and Adam Sandler had a child together?

by CloudyEyes on Mar 7, 2010 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

Uh, that IS Adam Sandler

..the Zohan.

Omri Casspi.

m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!

by JediLeroy on Mar 7, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha! Are you saying they all look the same to you?

No wonder they call you CloudyEyes!

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 7, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah...my screen name has a long history behind it

Some people think my name is drug induced, others think it has to do with confusion.

Long story short, my old screen name had “Cloud” in it, from way back when I was about 12 or 13, in reference to Cloud from Final Fantasy 7. I love Japanese Rock music, and a song title “Blurry Eyes” (by L’Arc En Ciel) was taken as a screen name, a while back. So, I picked “Cloudy Eyes.” :)

by CloudyEyes on Mar 7, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Mr. Strife.

FF7 was epic.

"If you told him to head-butt the wall, he would do it." -- Paul Westphal re: Brockness Monster.

by PhutureKings on Mar 8, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Quote:

“Speed, meet Racer X, biotch!”

by CloudyEyes on Mar 7, 2010 2:10 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

The Zohan and Speed Racer clash in a battle of box office duds

m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!

by JediLeroy on Mar 7, 2010 2:15 PM PST reply actions   4 recs

I like it too

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 7, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Hurry up and make your move Omri-

your stench is killing me.

The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.

by jjham15 on Mar 7, 2010 3:22 PM PST reply actions  

Alternate caption for coolcat:

Kevin Martin is wearing a Houston Rockets uniform. Your argument is invalid.

m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!

by JediLeroy on Mar 7, 2010 3:25 PM PST reply actions   3 recs

Again, I have an issue with Noce being placed in the Bad column.

Why? Because your extreme bias against Nocioni is showing again.

This GB&U installation is supposed to be about the last 2 weeks. In the last 2 weeks, 5 games have been played. In those 5 games, Nocioni has played in ONLY 2 of them. In the Utah game (which we won) he played 13 mins, scored 6 pts on 2 three pointers (2-4 FG), had 1 reb and 1 assist, all before the 4th quarter. I think anyone would say that 6 pts in 13 mins in 50% FG is a decent performance.

Then he had 3 straight DNP’s, one a DNP-CD and 2 others on a league suspension. With your dislike for him, I would have thought those DNP’s would have won him points for the Good section.

Then there was the loss in the Dallas. 15pts, 6 rebs, 1 assist, 1 steal and decent defense on Nowitzki for 16mins. Despite being a Noce fan, I think I wouldn’t be delusional if I said it was a good performance from him.

So, on the basis of 1 good game, 3 missed games, and 1 okay game on limited mins, Nocioni lands on the Bad section? Do you have him automatically slotted in the Ugly section and did his Dallas game manage to bring him up to Bad?

Seriously, I know Noce’s faults. And, you have put him in the Bad and Ugly sections of GB&U several times without a complaint from me. In fact, I agreed with most of your assessments (because he had a really long and bad stretch of games).

But this…this is uncalled for and undeserved. It seems to me you are putting him here for his entire season’s performance, in which case, he does deserve to be there. But then, it would be “this” week’s GB&U, would it?

On another note, I also seem to remember you putting him in the Bad section before, despite good performances from him. I’m hoping you might be more objective next time.

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 7, 2010 4:06 PM PST reply actions  

** again, sorry...2nd to the last paragraph...

it WOULDN’T BE “this” week’s GB&U…

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 7, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm with you NoceOne.

There seems to be some real irrational hatred for Noc and some strangely awkward love for young Spencer who started nicely with 15 and 12 and 16-9 but then ran off 8-3, 4-10 (in a game that featured 115 misses) and 7-9. 2 good games 3 sub par- boo consistency.

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by jjham15 on Mar 7, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

It was 7 games

But the fact that he couldnt even get any playing time was worrisome to me.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 7, 2010 5:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Ok, if you want to start from the Feb21st to March 5, Im okay with that.

So, 2 more games. That would make it Detroit last 23rd and the Suns on the 21st.

In the Detroit loss, Noce played 13 mins, scored 5 pts, shot 2-5FG, hit 1-1 from 3PTs, had 2 rebs, 1 assist and 0 TO’s, again, all before the 2nd half. Again, not spectacular but not bad either. If that same stat line came from Donte, Casspi or Ime, I’m sure we would have dubbed him “effective in limited mins”.

In the Phx loss, he went DNP-CD.

So, my tally is 1 good game (Dallas), 4 DNP’s (2 CD’s, 2 league suspension) and 2 “okay in limited mins” games. That equals a slot in the Bad column? Really?

Come on, man. Be fair. If Noce shoot 2-22 in this week’s games, you know I’ll support you putting him in the “Bad” column. Hell, I’ll lead the effort to put him in the “Ugly” column.

But please don’t put him there if he doesn’t deserve it.

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 7, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think he deserved a good either.

Would you honestly say he played well? That’s sort of the bad thing with these rankings. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, there is seemingly no middling ground between good and bad, and to me at least, bad has been the middle ground. That’s where I believe Noc has fit in the last couple weeks. Definitely not ugly, but I can’t say he was good either.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 7, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Bad is not the level between good and ugly

Nocioni didn’t belong on this list anywhere.

"Matthews, like so many before, did not expect the Yeti. No one ever expects the Yeti." ~ Ziller

by CaliforniaJag on Mar 7, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, how about no mention of him then?

I’m not saying put him in the “Good” column. I’m just saying don’t put him in “Bad” simply because you can’t put him in either “Good” or “Ugly”.

Brockman, Ime, K9 have gone stretches when they haven’t been mentioned in GB&U. Because they were mediocre. Because they didn’t do anything that was good, bad or ugly.

So Noce’s good game wasn’t as good as Landry’s. Doesn’t mean it was bad. His so-so games were, well, so-so. So-so isn’t bad, not unless you’re Lebron and mediocrity means failure. And his DNP-CD’s well, like I said, I thought you would have put him in the “Good” column coz he didn’t play at all!

See, this is where I think we can compromise. If Noce has been mediocre, just don’t mention him. If he was bad, go ahead and put him there, you won’t get a peep out of me (oh yeah, his 2-6 today is bordering on bad but his decent D on Durant puts him in that ambiguous category) . If he goes 2-10 in the next game, hell, fire away. I’ll get some popcorn, some mallows and watch you toast him.

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 7, 2010 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

That's a good point

He wasn’t good, he wasn’t bad, why not simply leave him out. I like feedback like this Noce, because I put a lot of time into these things, and I truly appreciate when we can have these discussions, because it means people are actually reading what I write, and caring.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 8, 2010 1:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Man, you're doing a great job. :-)

I love reading your stuff. Thanks for reacting positively to the feedback!

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by NoceOne on Mar 8, 2010 1:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought Nocioni was outstanding against Dallas

I would not put him in the “Bad” category.

"Matthews, like so many before, did not expect the Yeti. No one ever expects the Yeti." ~ Ziller

by CaliforniaJag on Mar 7, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you. :-)

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by NoceOne on Mar 7, 2010 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Anti-caption version

Rockets fans are so excited to have Martin, they can’t contain their thundersticks

m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!

by JediLeroy on Mar 7, 2010 5:06 PM PST reply actions  

Caption Contest:

Casspi: Damn, KMart. I’ve just been so tired lately.
KMart: Why don’t you rest your head on my chest then?
Casspi: Why were you biting your lips when you said that?

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by NoceOne on Mar 7, 2010 5:26 PM PST reply actions  

Caption

Omri Casspi momentarily loses his focus when he has to wrap his brain around the fact that it appears K-Mart is actually trying to play defense.

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by PhutureKings on Mar 8, 2010 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

Carl Landry is wearing a Top Hat. Your Argument is Invalid.

Nun uh.

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by pookeyguru on Mar 8, 2010 1:23 PM PST reply actions  

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