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20 games to go: Play for the draft or Play for the wins?

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Last season seems long ago. The Kings held the distinction of the owning the worst record in the NBA. No coaching staff (Natt’s departure was a foregone conclusion), Ownership panic selling, slashing expenses, the Arena future was devoid of light and the team roster consisted of an oft injured near All-Star,a young  10th and 12th pick future frontcourt and some hard to sell underperforming MLE contracts (Beno, Cisco, Chapu) and Kenny Thomas’ expiring contract to form 7 keepers.

Star-divide

The 2009 Kings had little to play for the last twenty games. Losing, yes even tanking, was a discussion topic. The NBA is a talent based league. You can’t run the race without the horses. So, I will return to the question at this time last season.  Do you want to see the Kings win more 7 games (20 x .338) – a wonderful 11 game improvement from last year, or lose enough to remain in the bottom 5 lottery chances?

With 28 wins the Kings will most likely be ahead of NJ Nyets, Twolves, Warriors, Pacers, Knicks, Wizards, and Detroit. Philly has one more win than the Kings as of today. That would place the Kings at the 8 or 9 position for the lottery, anywhere from 1-3 to 10-12. With 24 wins the Kings would be somewhere around 5th or 6th. Perhaps their path is already set.

This appears to be a weak draft overall. Last year was called a weak draft in star power but deep. That has proven mostly true but better than expected. This year has some big stars – Wall and Turner, some maybe stars in Favors and Cousins and then the usual suspects.  Even if the Kings were to tank, will they get into that top 4? With the worst record last year it was still a #4 result. So that possibiity is even less likely this year.  Oh, and please no comparisons to OKC. They have four top 5 picks in 3 seasons, give any team that luck and they will produce.  Geoff Petrie is the draft master but you can’t expect him to make a silk purse of every draft choice every season.

Where do you want this team to end up in wins and draft lottery position (not draft position) and where do you expect them to be?

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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You play to win the game.

Even with only 20 games left, the culture of losing is hard on everybody – the fans, the coaches, the owners and particularly the players. We need to end this season on a positive note. Otherwise, guys like Evans and Landry may begin to sour on the idea of staying with the Kings over the long term.

I think most everybody wants to feel good about the Landry/Martin trade, so it would be depressing if we just kept on losing and it didn’t seem like the trade improved our outlook at all.

The draft is enough of a crapshoot that tanking isn’t worth it. We can feel reasonably optismistic about Petrie making a pick in the top ten. (And that seems to be the conclusion that BTE is heading towards, right?)

It looks to me like there are at least ten winnable games on the remaining schedule. So, I’d like to see us reach that 30-win mark, which would give us a little momentum going into next season as all these guys continue to improve…

by corbin on Mar 7, 2010 12:37 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

yes, my preference is to just let it play out

get wins as they come and damn the consequences.

But that is an illiogical preference. Just like in the business world, sometimes a lateral move in position is the best move for a future promotion. OKC had luck (and the skill to pick good players) as did Portland in trading for Roy and Aldridge but they had suckage before success.

Petrie has had mixed success in assembling talent – no one knows the circumstances; the Maloof influence, the past Head Coach influence (Musselman, Theus). Petrie garnering Webber, Vlade, Christie, Bibby, BJax, JBarry, Pollard through acquisition is a wonderful feat. It demonstrates both ability (skill, timing) as much as the latest shortcomings demonstrate the difficulty in sustaining success. Add in a changning NBA landscape and the future CBA with a constricted financial plan – it seems daunting.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 7, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

let me add another comment in reply, corbin

I don’t believe in the statement: " a culture of losing". Winning cures this culture, in fact, it kills it.

If the Kings have a poor showing this last score of games and end up with a good lottery position and it turns into one of the top 2 or 3 picks and they pick up a star for next season – the culture of losing ends before a single win. The enticement of winning will overwhelm any feeling of dejection. The culture of losing continues only if the Kings start next season with the same exact team as this season and the players believe they aren’t good enough. And these guys know better than that.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 7, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I will add to this also BTE.

We are the obsessive, crazy fans that concern themselves with questions like this. The common fan turned the channel when the Kings lost 5 or more times for the 4th time this season or when the team traded its most marketed player for a 6 man and cap space (not judging, just stating a fact). These are the same fans that forget who is actually on the team during the summer months, only to pick up the team during the fall when they start seeing TV ads again.

Winning 10 games instead of 5 over the last 20 does 2 things: lowers your chances of a top 3 pick and drops you between 1-6 spots in the draft, depending on how the W’s, Pacers, Wizards, Pistons, Knicks and Clippers fair.

As the obsessed fan, I want to get all excited about Wall, Cousins, Favor, Turner and Aminu instead of the Cole Aldrich, Pat Patterson, Donatas Montiejunas or Hassan Whitesides of the world. Last season was fun, wondering which of the top 4 talents we would land. I don’t want to do it every year but one more wouldn’t hurt us. Ask yourself this question- how much easier is it going to be to add a potential top tier free agent if your roster sports Tyreke Evans and another top 5 pick along with the current talent?

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by jjham15 on Mar 7, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

The most common form of tanking is to let the kids play big minutes when you have vets who could win you more games

With just a few exceptions, all we have are kids. I say let the kids play to win and let the chips fall where they may in respect to the draft lottery.

"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson

by Bluejohn on Mar 7, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree BJ-

I don’t want to see lay downs but we all know what Noc,Udoka and May bring to the table. Let’s see if Dorsey is worthy of a roster spot and if Donté can get his shit back together.

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by jjham15 on Mar 7, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

it is the logical and smart choice, but a difficult reality

to lose games to get better. Mediocrity is it’s form of hell.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 7, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

You have to play to win

This team has to get the fans back in the seats and losing badly isn’t going to do that. Building a fan base is all about momentum and the Kings need to show something to the fans to get them excited enough to buy tickets. That is the bottomline. There is no way to do that by losing.

I don’t know that it is really an issue because we are going to lose a lot of games anyway, but staying in the games and striving to win may be enough. Moral victories do count for fans that want to see a good and entertaining game.

We win at least five games and at most ten. That is both good and bad enough.

by MustangMBS on Mar 7, 2010 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

Continue to play hard and play to win

This guys have been playing hard most of the season (whether some agree or not) and they aren’t about to stop. They’ll continue to play to win and I think will end wih anywhere from 26-30 wins. I think we’ll just have to worry about the lottery once the season’s over.

I won’t lie though, I’ve found myself looking at the overall standings and seeing where we are in comparison to the other bad teams many times. In a perfect world (with the future in mind) we will play hard every single game, but maybe only win a coupe games and get a top 5 pick.

That being said, I can honestly say I’m rooting for this team to win every single game from now on. It may just be a little bit easier to stomach losses.

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 7, 2010 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

play to win

Obviously; what kind of messages does it send the players under 25 when the coaching staff and the front office are playing for the draft? If i was Reke i would be pissed if i felt like our team was trying to lose….

by shadowchicken on Mar 7, 2010 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

Hello?!

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YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!

Omar Minaya is my hero!
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by Scott Coleman on Mar 7, 2010 2:12 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Ummmmmm....I want he Kings to lose.

Sorry peeps, I want the highest pick posible. I’m not saying the Kings need to tank but I would like to see lot’s of Donté Greene, Omri Casspi, John Brockman (if healthy), and Joey Dorsey and less of Udoka, Noc. The Kings need to see how these young guys can finish the season, how they mesh. I’m not saying they should throw the games but playing to win should be secondary to playing to get experience/gauging player talent levels. With the schedule and young core this team should be able to pick-up a few wins but let’s be honest here- this team needs a big time FA and a top 5 pick more than they need a handful of warm and fuzzy feeling wins in a sub .500 season.

The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.

by jjham15 on Mar 7, 2010 2:30 PM PST reply actions  

I can understand this POV

I’m guessing you’re not alone JJ

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 7, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Let me ask you a question JJ

For arguments sake: what if playing the young guys actually gets us more wins? I’m assuming that’d be nice but it could also cost us some spots in the lottery. What say you?

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Mar 7, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I say that's fine with me.

We already have seen that Nocioni didn’t have enough value on the market to trade. 20 games of scrub time isn’t going to change anyones position on that. So at this point Noc needs to be thought of as one of 10 or 11 rotation players for next season. This season is over so let’s run with the kids and see what they can bring. If Donté proves he worth keeping around for another season or two then that’s fine with me. If Joey Dorsey proves to be more valuable than Jon Brockman and valuable enough to make the 2010 roster then let’s see it now.

I think the Kings knew all along the way that season was going to play out except for maybe the Kevin Martin situation. Nocioni, for all of his faults, is still a better NBA player today than Omri Casspi or Donté Greene. Let’s not fool ourselves into believing that this whole season was about any thing other than developing younger talent and obtaining another top 10 pick in 2010. I hope that the Kings add a huge power player and a nice back-up point/2 via the draft/FA/trade then next season we see a team that has 10 or 11 solid, NBA caliber players. I think that Petrie has/will compile enough talent to compete for a playoff spot next year if FA and the draft go as planned. I see 8 real NBA players (Evans, Beno, Garcia, Casspi, Nocioni, JT, Hawes and Landry) all under contract for the foreseeable future with a wild card in Greene. IMO the Kings could use at least 1 more starting quality player for the current roster to play at it’s best and maybe even two which would allow both Beno and Landry the ability to play off the bench along side either Hawes or Thompson, Garcia and Nocioni. This can be accomplished in a myriad of ways but that is a different thread.

The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.

by jjham15 on Mar 7, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, play to win

but play to win with the kids as much as it doesn’t interfere with coaching and player discipline / development.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 8, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Player discipline I agree with. Player development I don't.

Does Omri Casspi get better next season by playing every game (even though he’s clearly exhausted right now) for the rest of the season? Or does he get better by adding more muscle/stamina or whatever in the off-season? Or, is he just not a guy who can really play 32 minutes a night on a consistent basis?

You play to win the games. That’s the point of playing them. Being disciplined is an important part of winning the NBA. Playing young players so they get experience in NBA games is not. Players earn PT. That’s when they play. If you do it the other way, you don’t have much discipline IMO because players don’t have to work for their minutes.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 8, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

All the kids have earned playing time

Are any of the vets besides Cisco [recently] and Beno that much better that you play Udoka and Noce over them except as I said, part of teaching discipline?
Udoka I’d just release if a playoff team asked us to for ‘future considerations’. I like the guy but it appears any small niche he might have had will/should be Mcguire’s for the taking.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 8, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Still plenty of bodies to limit Casspi to 25 minutes or so the rest of the season.

Cisco, Donte’, Mcguire, Dorsey, Brockman

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 8, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

We can't trade Udoka. The trade deadline has passed and you can't trade a potential free agent in the off-season.

The only way the Kings waive Udoka is because they don’t want him around. Otherwise, there would be no point for Udoka or the Kings to waive him.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 8, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm aware of the trade rules

Its why ‘considerations’ was in quotes. If he had another opportunity he should be allowed to pursue it as he has no chance of being here next year.

If the team that gets him doesn’t give us payback somewhen – what have we lost?

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Mar 9, 2010 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The Kings can't get any "considerations". That was MY point.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 11, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Play to win...end the season on a positive note!

Plus, I got an annual bet with a Warriors fan. $100 for better record, and $100 for the season series. I thought the season series was money in the bank, but we all know what happened during the last Kings/ Warriors game. And plus, the lottery jacks everything up. Play to win…winning cures everything!!!

I bleed PURPLE...YadaddaaaaKING?!?!?!
DieHard SacKings/ BuffaloBills fan...yeah, tell me about it...one does exist!!!

by rest9 on Mar 7, 2010 2:37 PM PST reply actions  

Here is the easy way to win that bet-

Stand around by the W’s players car after their next game and rent Monta Ellis a scooter for an hour or two.

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by jjham15 on Mar 7, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

haha...

He will be known as moped for life!

I bleed PURPLE...YadaddaaaaKING?!?!?!
DieHard SacKings/ BuffaloBills fan...yeah, tell me about it...one does exist!!!

by rest9 on Mar 7, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

See if you can get him and Curry to ride doubles.

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by jjham15 on Mar 7, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

nah, don't do that

Curry won’t lie about afterwards

by betweentheeyes on Mar 7, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

In truth, my big hope for the season was to win more games than the dubs

and with 20 games to go I think we can win materially more games than last season. win more games than the dubs and not mess up our draft position much.

"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson

by Bluejohn on Mar 9, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

we have to. we just have to.

I have bought my Dubs bud 4 Dinners in a row (season record loser buys dinner for 4).

I am readying my list of nice Napa joints for suggestion (current top of the list: Bouchon)

by betweentheeyes on Mar 9, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

play to win but personally I don't mind losing the close ones

The team’s already proved to be much improved from last year and the fan base is excited and will stay excited even if the team ends up losing most of the remaining games. Do whatever it takes to improve team chemistry, evaluate young talent and prove that you can play with the tough teams like we did with Dallas.

I have a feeling we’re going to win our share of games remaining. Maybe that screws up our draft choices but Petrie w/ even a top 7 pick should produce a great talent.

Lots of winnable games left: Minn, Mil, @Clips, NJ, Indy, Minn, Clips…I bet we win at least 4 of those and pull about 3 upsets so we finish about 7-13 and w/ 28 wins. Let’s just stay under 30 wins….

by ucla06 on Mar 7, 2010 2:38 PM PST reply actions  

I mostly agree with this

but I would still prefer to see us lose. Weak draft or not, the difference between a frontcourt of Landry and Cousins vs a frontcourt of Landry and Aldrich is a pretty dramatic one. The bigs at the top of this draft are some quality players, and the addition of one of those guys could make a huge difference for us. And if a 25 win season leads to a player that gets us to 42 wins next season, while a 28-30 win season nets us a player who gets us to 35 wins next year, I’ll take the extra losses now.

by glazier_25 on Mar 8, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

What about karma?

Even though I wouldn’t mind losing every game from here on out I feel as though karma might come back to bite us. But maybe if the team does the best we possibly can maybe we will win the lottery and end up with a top 3 pick.

by Doors Open on Mar 7, 2010 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

Hmmm.... Last year, karma?

It really seemed like there was an intentional effort to tank last year. And we didn’t get the #1 pick, karma?

by MustangMBS on Mar 7, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Karma plays for the Clippers and they got the first pick last year...

and look what that got them.

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by jjham15 on Mar 7, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I recommend you don't change your lucky underwear until after the draft lottery

It would be also very lucky if you sit next to Section at the Peachquel, StR II.

Go Karma Kings!

by betweentheeyes on Mar 7, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

The Karma factor

I hope GP has taken this into consideration when he makes any important decisions. Let’s see, what is the Karma going to be if Kevin Martin gets traded to the Rockets. What is the Karma going to be if Noc gets traded?

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 8, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Last year said it all for me.

I’d love for this team to get John Wall but this is a lottery and if we get lucky great if not then I trust Petrie will grab another player of high caliber where ever the Kings end up picking.

BOOK IT!

by kingme18 on Mar 7, 2010 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

Blind faith is cool but it reminds me of an old parable I learned at church when I was a kid.

So a storm hits and the water starts rise and a police officer comes by a God fearing man’s home and says, “hey dude, hop in and I’ll drive you to safety”. The man says, “no thanks, the Lord will provide for me” and the cop says, “alright, you’re crazy but good luck”. Soon, the man has to climb on top of the roof of his home because of the rising water. The same cop comes by with a boat and says, “hop in, the levies won’t last too much longer”. The God fearing man says, “no thanks, the Lord will provide for me”. Soon, the man is standing on the very top of his chimney and the water is all the way up to his knees and that same cop hovers overhead in a helicopter and via mega phone says, “grab my hand d-bag or you’re going to drown!” The God fearing man says, “no thanks, the Lord will provide for me” and waives to the cop goodbye.

So the man drowns and floats up to heaven to find God waiting for him. He looks at God and says “what the F, I am a God fearing man, why did you not provide for me in my moment of peril?” And God looked and the man and said, “I sent a car, a boat and a helicopter to save you and turned them away, what more could I have done?.”

So the moral to the story is, sure GP can try and work miracles with that 7 pick that has cursed us so many times in the past or maybe the Kings can lose a few extra games and allow Petrie to draft the player he wants instead of just hoping that some idiot in front of him will say no thanks God (David Stern), I’ll just take Hasheem Thabeet instead- no thanks God (David Stern), I’ll draft James Harden instead.

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by jjham15 on Mar 7, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Deliberately wanting / trying to lose is a lot different from accepting help.

Carl Landry wears a top hat.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 7, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

God helps those who help themselves : )

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by jjham15 on Mar 7, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Best suggestion yet!

Let’s play to win and cheer those other teams to victory too, so we don’t lose our lottery spot!

There can only be one Noce!

by NoceOne on Mar 7, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Play to Win

We already went down the losing path last season and there is a heavy psychological toll for the players to pay. We want these players to continue to improve over the rest of this season, which will help toward starting next season out on the right track. They have such a desire to win and put out effort, it would be foolhardy to mess with that. I agree with everyone else who says to win. I predicted 30 wins for this season and I hope they make it.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 7, 2010 3:51 PM PST reply actions  

are you an idiot?

seriously why would we try and lose games? we are trying to improve here…
we had the worst record last season, and did we get the #1 pick???

by Surprise Team on Mar 7, 2010 4:36 PM PST reply actions  

Seriously BTE

You’re such an idiot. You must have no hair because it was embarrassed to be so near such a stupid brain. I can’t believe you post this garbage.

By the way people, don’t fall into the Sar-Chasm.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 7, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I want to see this team TRY to win games

And give there all doing it. I’m with JJ above that I would like to see a higher pick, but having a worse record doesn’t necessarily guarantee that. If the Kings try to win games, and don’t, I’ll be happy with that. If they try to win games, and do, I’ll be happy with that. If they play bad, I will not be happy with that.

This being said, I still think we manage to win at least 5-7 more games, this team plays too hard not too.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Mar 7, 2010 11:47 PM PST reply actions  

You gotta keep playing to win...

even if it prevents the Kings from getting Turner, Wall, or Favors.
Inspired by that dumb Miami Heat fan post,….I would love to trade Cousins to the Heat for their 1st round picks.

by getPGwithbounce on Mar 8, 2010 1:37 AM PST reply actions  

Since I have no control over wins and losses

I’m going to root for wins, and find the silver lining if they lose.

This team’s not going to tank – I don’t think you can convince this group of players and coaching staff to lose on purpose. So it’s gonna be what it’s gonna be, and I’ll still be happy if they win and pissed if they lose.

"You know what I consider mentally weak? Using your audience to settle a grudge with someone who had the audacity to publicly call you on your sh*t. The only thing more offensive is that Napear thinks we're all too stupid to see it for what it is." - TZ, Sactown Royalty

by otis29 on Mar 8, 2010 5:36 AM PST reply actions  

Agree with you 100% Otis

Well said.

"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"

Sammyp831.

by SavageBeast on Mar 8, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Play to win...

Even by doing that, we probably only have 25-26 wins and are still a top 5+/- in the lotto…

Purveyor of Bull Plop

by SayWhat? on Mar 8, 2010 7:14 AM PST reply actions  

Play to win always

This team is only good enough to win maybe 5 more games anyway. This team wants to win & is trying hard so they deserve to beat the teams they are able to beat. Truth is if we don’t get Wall, Turner, Cousins, or Favors the rest of the draft is a crapshoot. Hell after Wall & Turner it’s probably a crapshoot as Cousins is possibly an unmotivated headcase & Favors looks like a project. There are a few project centers in Alibi, Whiteside, Aldrich, & a few euros who are going to go 5-16 most likely anyway.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Mar 8, 2010 9:02 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

The rest of the draft is a crapshoot?

Perhaps, but isn’t every draft position? How will Griffin play after being out for a year? Despite the concerns about Oden, who would have passed up on him (perhaps after taking Durant as #1)? And could Darko have flourished if he had been drafted by a different team?

Didn’t everyone kept saying how last year’s draft was supposed to be weak?
And some Euro’s have been a pleasant surprise. I don’t mean just Casspi, but also Jerebko, Beaubois and ( I know, not a rookie) Ilyasova. David Andersen (no draft pick and no Euro, but Austyralian) has been alright. And everybody thought Jennings made a bad decision going to Italy. So who knows how these Euro’s who are going between 5 and 16 are going to pan out?

Drafting is not science. Following a strategy to get a higher chance in a lottery is not a good idea.

Also, tanking games is not a good way to instill a winning mentality in a young team.

Dunking Dutchman

by RikSmits on Mar 9, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Play to win the games.

And you let the chips fall where they may after that. The lottery is just that: a lottery.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 8, 2010 9:35 AM PST reply actions  

Fans fantasize about the could've been

If only…

thus this post: if the Kings win and get a lousy pick than it will be “If only the Kings had lost a couple more games”
                           if the Kings win and get a high draft pick through lottery luck “this was meant to be”
                           if the Kings lose and get a lousy pick than it will be “the Kings have no luck, screwed again”
                           if the Kings lose and get a high draft pick it will be “finally, things turned out right”

crapshoot.

by betweentheeyes on Mar 8, 2010 10:46 AM PST reply actions   3 recs

LOL This is awesome.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I'm not sure Donald Sterling is a human being. He had to have been manufactured by someone, possibly David Stern, so that one team could solely just make profit for the NBA while doing nothing good for themselves. -- Aykis 16

by pookeyguru on Mar 8, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

The quandry would normally be do you play to win or do you play your youth and future?

Since the youth of this team is also the core of this team, you don’t change a thing. You keep rolling the core out there, which is your youth.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Mar 8, 2010 6:59 PM PST reply actions  

Well said.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Mar 8, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

PLAY TO WIN

We won’t be respected if we can’t get some wins. We know the play-offs are out of the question, but the message that we are trying to send right now is that we are a growing team and we are coming!! We play not for now, but for the future. No players will sign with us if we can’t get respect.

saw this coming...

by anthonysam on Mar 8, 2010 7:57 PM PST reply actions  

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