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Why You Extend Westphal


Ailene Voisin wrote an article today suggesting that the Kings were too hasty in extending Paul Westphal's contract, saying:

"The timing makes no sense for a number of reasons, including the most important ones: Westphal was already guaranteed to return as Kings coach next year, and in terms of his job performance, evaluating him on one season would be unfair and absurdly premature."

"Ailene Vosin nails this: another lazy/rash move by Kings to extend Westphal for no apparent reason."

The funny thing is that I don't have to work very hard to show just how ridiculous these statements are, I can simply read the rest of Voisin's article.

Star-divide

A few additional key excerpts from Ailene:

"In our gut, it feels right," Kings co-owner Joe Maloof said Monday afternoon. "We think Paul has done a great job for us, and in spite of our record, we feel we're getting better. We don't want any more coaching carousels, all those negatives going into next season. We know it's going to take time to rebuild and we want to know who our coach is."

Surely, there is something to be said for stability, consistency, professionalism and even loyalty.


Well, waiting until halfway through next season, or later, would result in less stability, less professionalism, less loyalty.  It could result in less consistency.  As Sam Amick reported over at FanHouse, Westphal had a clause in his contract that his 3rd year would become automatically guaranteed if he won a combined 60 games this season and next.  If you don't pick up the option for Westphal's third year, perhaps he begins sacrificing development of younger players in favor of trying to reach his 60th win.  The guy waited a long time to get another shot at being a head coach, I don't think he'll give it up without a fight.

The Kings have been the definition of what a coaching carousel looks like.  We've seen Muss, Theus, and Natt struggle on the sidelines, fail to get buy-in from players, and generally lead the franchise to last season's 17-win abomination.  Westphal has the players buying in and trying, despite his often-criticized rotation instability.

The Kings have a young star in Tyreke Evans, and he seems to work well with Westphal.  I think you want to keep them both happy, and keep them both comfortable with what their future looks like.  The Kings are about to add another high draft pick.  I think you want that young player to understand that his coach is not a lame duck, and that he needs to learn the system.  We hope the Kings will try to entice a significant free agent to come to Sacramento this summer.  If I'm a free agent, I'm not signing a long-term deal in Sacramento unless I know there will be at least a little consistency from a franchise that has been anything but.

Waiting would be unnecessary, and only bears negative ramifications.  It's not like Westphal's contract is breaking the bank.  He's a steal.  Cheapest coach in the league.  And he's working. 

The organization made the right choice. 

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Well said G

And I agree that this team needs stability.

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by Aykis16 on Apr 13, 2010 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Waiting would be unnecessary, and only bears negative ramifications. It’s not like Westphal’s contract is breaking the bank. He’s a steal. Cheapest coach in the league. And he’s working.

doesn’t sound “lazy” or “rash” to me. I funny agree with extending him. He did a good job this year.

Voison, Hollinger, and Peaches can all suck it.

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by Dub_TC on Apr 13, 2010 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

I dont know why

it said “funny” … I meant “fully”. I can’t type.

Chuck Norris is not hung like a horse .... horses are hung like Chuck Norris.

by Dub_TC on Apr 13, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well we already know how much everyone here loves Voisin and Hollinger

I feel like them and Peaches form some sadistic, Kings hating triage.

This is Black Dynamite for Anaconda Malt Liquor... Once you pop the top, the panties drop

by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

i prefer to call it a Kings Hating Triforce

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Apr 13, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bush said it best:

Axis of Evil. Though you would need to add the (Redacted) for it to truly be an Evil Empire.

Blessings.Love.Peace

by lifestyleforthesellout on Apr 13, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was a no-brainer at the price

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Apr 13, 2010 10:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Good job Ex G

You mentioned how inexpensive his contract is relative to the league – additionally, it’s not like a coach’s salary affects your cap space. If PW turns out to be a clunker, you can still let him go before his contract expires.

This is much ado about nothing, IMO.

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by otis29 on Apr 13, 2010 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Isn't it funny how guys on here, doing these posts for free in their spare time

are more willing to do the research and get the facts before writing, than these people who’s job it is to do these things?

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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

ain't that the truth!

Chuck Norris is not hung like a horse .... horses are hung like Chuck Norris.

by Dub_TC on Apr 13, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think

It’s because of the checks and balances on this site. If you don’t do your research you get lambasted by the people on here who do, which is a good thing. It makes this site more valuable and more credible.

by babasin on Apr 13, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the goal is to have the cheapest guy possible that will do a professional job, than I understand the extension.

Personally, I don’t think the job Westphal has done this year is anything to rave about, except when compared the the guys that came before him.

A one year extension so he’s not a lame duck, I guess I can live with; its not my money at risk. But Paul Westphal hasn’t shown me any reason to believe he’s an above average coach in the NBA so far. Of course he’s not paid like he is either at this point.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Apr 13, 2010 10:38 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree with you fully

I think only in comparison with our previous three coaches dose he shine brightly, but they were certainly poor coaches. I think he has done a very adequate job this year, but I hate the fact that we have to judge his performance as a bargain, I wish as a franchise we didnt have to worry about coaching salary. I hope he improves next year.

by MichaelMack on Apr 13, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he will improve

He has made it no secret that this season would be up and down and that most of it was testing out different things. Why do you think he is always thanking the fans for their patience. To have a season where it is a total experiment and still improve as much as we did is really good, and he should be given more credit than you guys are giving him. Next year he should be coming out with a solid game plan and things should be much more consistent. I agree he is not one of the top tier coaches in the league, but it’s not like we have any better options.

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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

When he does come out with a coherent game plan, then I'll be onboard.

What a luxury we’ve given him, a year to tinker and play around and learn about what he has or doesn’t have on the team. If next year he shows he’s used this year wisely and we see planning and decision making that looks like an above average NBA coach is calling the shots, I will happily move his grade up several notches.

I’m not saying it won’t happen, only that so far I haven’t see a lot of evidence to suggest it will. It might, I certainly hope so, but Westphal’s been given an entire year with minimalist expectations. I want to see more evidence of a coherant plan next year.

What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

by Grasul on Apr 13, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

and likewise

if he doesn’t step it up I’ll be twice as hard on him because he had this year to tinker. Hopefully it works out because I think that giving him this one experimental year could be a HUGE factor in future seasons… if he used it properly. I guess we’ll just have to see what he does next year. Also with an extension, he should have nothing on his mind except winning. Hopefully the year stays clear of any more family issues.

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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Co-sign

My biggest points that Ailene ignores beyond what G expertly laid out in the post (with the no-risk, potential reward being the biggest issue).

If you don’t extend him and the team wins 35 games next season but you want to move a different direction, you have to fire (and still pay) a coach who just led a 10-game improvement.

That will go over well.

If anything was premature, it was the Petrie extension. This is timed pretty well, in my estimation. You have to extend him or risk 2008-09 The Sequel. (I do now retroactively question a fairly graspable incentive triggering the third year option though … it’s clever, but a real minefield.)

by Tom Ziller on Apr 13, 2010 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

The Business side

I see a lot of Ailene bashing coming from the Sacto Bee website / comments section, and I had to wonder this morning if maybe this wasn’t written in the similar vein as the piece here on Carl Landry and not picking up his option. The business side is a little bit foreign to alot of folks who are just plain passionate about basketball, and in that light what she wrote potentially makes some sense.(?) For me, the bottom line is that the Maloofs have made a “commitment” to getting better, and that is at least partially achieved through consistency. I like it, and hope that PW can prove he’s worth it by getting us in position to flirt with the playoffs next year. One last note – Hooray for ping pong balls and here’s to hoping we get the kind of treatment the Clippers got last year (4th worst finish getting the 1st pick…)

by Sacto_J on Apr 13, 2010 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Lame duck coaches never succeed is Sac

Adelman had his worse season as a lame duck coach. Thues was mildly succesful in his first season but never got the 3rd year guarenteed and things went down hill in season two for him.

by nakaisgod on Apr 13, 2010 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Exactly

Paul Westphal is a good enough coach that he deserves the opportunity to coach for another year without having to wonder whether he’ll be here the next year.

by jveezy on Apr 13, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exhibit G - Rec'd

Ailene – Wrecked

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by section214 on Apr 13, 2010 11:08 AM PDT reply actions   3 recs

hmmm

Im looking for a play on words between this and my screen name … but I can’t think of one

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by Dub_TC on Apr 13, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

CRAP

Brilliant! lol!
Rec’d!

I was uncool before it was cool

by Dirkula on Apr 13, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think "Chick" was a fortunate choice of vernacular for her sake.

I had a slightly more colorful one in mind…

rec’d for creativity!

Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile

by Balky Needs on Apr 13, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought of it too

believe me

#vfettkefordraft
"The Kings will get a top 3 pick in the 2010 draft. Book it!"

by vfettke on Apr 14, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disagreeing with Voison results in....

…being accurate 100% of the time it’s tried.

She’s a hack!

Well said, G.

by Smills9133 on Apr 13, 2010 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

We need to accept that sometimes the bad guys recognize the madmen.

Even the Russians knew Hitler was bad news.

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by elfboy_ on Apr 13, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Peaches, he tells us wether or not we are allowed to like King's basketball

“If you don’t like that, you don’t like King’s basketball!!”

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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

For CRAP's sake

I read the article and it reminded me of the piece written here @ STR about not picking up Landry’s option. Another STR inspired Bee article, perhaps!?

by Sacto_J on Apr 13, 2010 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

The real reason that Ailene is ticked?

Because PW is not this guy –

And don’t get her started on these guys –

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by section214 on Apr 13, 2010 12:28 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

Funny thing is, most people actually agreed with her on the Rubio thing

Myself included, but it just made it seem dirty and wrong. Just goes to show, ALWAYS just do the opposite of Voiline’s advise

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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Voisin^

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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ricky is really a woman and that could explain Ailene's crush.

It’s not a man, man!

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by Balky Needs on Apr 13, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

You cannot make chicken salad with chicken ...

First, I like PW and am glad he is staying, and he does a good job. We went from 17 wins to 25, and I cannot help but wonder if much of this is merely having better players, and if Reggie couldn’t have achieved 25 with this roster. Still prefer PW, though for his maturity and good humor.

by jozyme on Apr 13, 2010 12:34 PM PDT reply actions  

agree

Thues never got a fair shake. He got caught between petrie wanting to grow players and maloofs wanting to win now.

by nakaisgod on Apr 13, 2010 12:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree with jozyme

This team does not have much talent on it. The only player we HAVE to keep is Tyreke.

by mayfieldcol on Apr 13, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish

We ahd offered the job to Scott Brooks! I am on the fence about Westphal

by newkings on Apr 13, 2010 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

To be fair to Paul

Brooks has a lot more to work with.

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by Aykis16 on Apr 13, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

He wasn't ripping it up last year either.

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by pookeyguru on Apr 13, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Brooks

But after Muss/Theus/Natt, the Kings could not afford to hand the keys to another newbie. OKC was a better locale for Brooks, and Westphal was the right call for this franchise at this particular moment.

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by section214 on Apr 13, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it was meant instead of Theus 214.

Not after the 3 headed monster of Muss/Theus/Natt.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 13, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah

I could agree with that.

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by section214 on Apr 13, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Think about it this way

Brooks already had his job in OKC guaranteed AFTER his interim deal by the time the Kings hired PW.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 13, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

once again, there is a fork in the road and the Kings get criticized either way

This is not a story, it is a headline to a controversy. If the Kings had not extended Westphal’s contract the story would have been damning the guy after he brought so much to the Kings and why can’t the Kings keep a coach, especially one that was mentioned in the Coach of the Year talks three months ago.

I don’t know the structure of Paul Westphal’s contract, that is between him and ownership and front office. My best guess, since that is all I can work with, is that he did everything he said he was going to do. He improved the team: they have won more (he collected an incentive bonus at 25 wins), he highlighted the new talent (expected RoY Tyreke Evans was given the keys to the car early and often – thank goodness) and kept this team interesting and exciting (boy, I miss November).

Not extending Paul Westphal is a vote of no confidence. That is not the same as waiting until next year. He has been a calming influence to the team and their fans. Want to talk to Philly, Minny, NJ, Chicago and Washington about coaching? Last summer’s search wasn’t damning enough? The Kings signed the best guy out there currently and for a song. I can’t see anything other than good here. And Hollinger is a horse’s ass for throwing his two cents in – does he work for Dan Fegan too?

by betweentheeyes on Apr 13, 2010 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Dear god it pains me to say this, but I agree with Voisin

At least it’s not my money. If they want to spend $1.5 million extra to fire Westphal when the honeymoon is over more power to them.

I really, really don’t understand the mass love for Westphal around here. The talent is much better than last season, the end result is not.

by nbrans on Apr 13, 2010 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

The talent is much better than last season

I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

I've got squirrels in my pants!

by otis29 on Apr 13, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Tyreke won us about 20 games this year

other than the addition of him and Omri, the team largely stayed the same, but with injury troubles.

by VenomySnicket on Apr 13, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would that qualify as a Martini?

.75% proof, all the time.

Tanking? I don't know what you're talking about, tanking. I'm just losing more efficiently.

by elfboy_ on Apr 14, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

But tongue out of cheek

I know what you mean about “much.” This isn’t a playoff team by any stretch of the imagination.

I just don’t agree with the people who think he’s getting the most out of anyone on the team other than Tyreke and Beno. I don’t think JT and Hawes, for instance, have shown marked improvement, I don’t think the lineup changes have helped, and can anyone honestly say that this team looks better at the end of the season than they did at the beginning?

by nbrans on Apr 13, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will agree

that Westphal is not a panacea. But who would have done better with this squad? And Westpahl’s salary is so small (by NBA standards), the Kings can easily move forward with a “premier” coach should one become available.

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by section214 on Apr 13, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like Larry Brown?

Whose already looking to move out of Charlotte now that they’re finally in the playoffs. Guy is like a rental service.

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by Aykis16 on Apr 13, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't necessarily disagree with you

He hasn’t been overly impressive in my opinion. His experimentation with the rotations went on way too long, his brouhaha with Spencer was very unprofessional (albeit by both parties), and you listed the most damning piece of evidence – that the team seems to have regressed down the stretch.

However, he is dealing with the youngest roster in the NBA, and one that is seriously bereft of on-court veteran leadership. And the Kings need to stop the coaching carousel at least for a bit – this exercising of the option is just as much for looks as it is for PW’s performance. It brings the appearance of stability. And I don’t really have a problem with that.

I’m still in the camp that he’s done enough to stay on for next year – and the option just prevents him from appearing to be a lame duck next season. But he’s still got a lot to prove, and I don’t think exercising the option guarantees he will be the coach here for that option season.

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by otis29 on Apr 13, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   4 recs

Me, too

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by section214 on Apr 13, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Completely agree

Very well put.

I’m not 100% in support of everything PW has done, but I definitely feel like exercising the option was the right move for the franchise.

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by Exhibit G on Apr 13, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

What don't you support that PW has done?

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

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by pookeyguru on Apr 13, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay that's one thing.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 13, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The public flogging of Spencer Hawes

A small pass given due to the fact that PW was stressed due to a family illness at the time, but if you want your players to be professional, practice what you preach.

All in all, Westphal has met my expectations.

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by section214 on Apr 13, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed about the professionalism.

But the line-up changes? When you consider that we had three rookies, two second-year players who had two coaches their first year, a third-year player on his fourth coach and two of our top veterans out for an extended period, you have to change the line-ups to see what works.

We were never going to be a winning team this year, so it helps if you view the entire season in the light of an extended training camp.

I like Westphal because he seems to know how to make guys work, how to keep them together and competing every night despite the losing, and because his development of our young core of players, especially Tyreke Evans, has been stellar.

Stellar.

Did anyone think Casspi, Donté or Brockman would contribute at the level they did? Evans reached 20-5-5 and grew exponentially from the first month of the season.

Did anyone notice that instead of being blown out night after night, we were in almost every game? Is that not a result of a highly functioning coaching staff?

Westphal’s extension was necessary at this point, not “rash” or “premature”. There are only three ways he could have been given a well-deserved vote of confidence: More responsibility, more money or more time. More time is the most prudent of the three.

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by LeaguePassAddict on Apr 13, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

This
Did anyone notice that instead of being blown out night after night, we were in almost every game? Is that not a result of a highly functioning coaching staff?

This is my favorite part about Westphal’s influence. We reduced the 20+ blowouts from something like 20 down to something like 3. At the beginning of the season, I just asked that the last two minutes of the games matter. This team delivered on that in spades.

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by section214 on Apr 13, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

You make a lot of good points on the lineup changes

There are two issues there I didn’t care for – it seemed he was more focused on matchups with the opposition than developing his young players with consistent minutes. I don’t have specifics, but I remember being slightly annoyed that guys like Donté would have a solid game one night and then not get off the bench the next game.

Second, we were well into the second half of the season before it felt like there was a consistent rotation…there are probably good reasons for it, but it seemed like it took way longer than necessary.

As far as the blowouts, I would agree. On the other hand, the team has played pretty poorly down the stretch.

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by otis29 on Apr 13, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great Points

As I said, I haven’t been 100% in support of everything he has done, but that is not to say I’m against Westphal.

I gave him leeway on the line-ups for most of the season, but at a certain point you have to settle on a rotation so players can properly anticipate their roles. Along with this, I really took issue with the way he handled the Spencer situation.

Those are my two main gripes. Aside from that, I’m very impressed right now, and very happy that he’s the coach of the Kings. Hence my support of his option being picked up.

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by Exhibit G on Apr 13, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

For $1.5 million,

the Kings do not have to get caught up in the mechinations of achieving 35 wins next year, at which point the 3rd year of Westphal’s contract would have automatically kicked in. Fro $1.5 million, this young squad knows that Westphal is likely to be calling the shots for the next two years. For $1.5 million, there is no distraction next year as to whether or not Westphal’s contract is going to be extended.

If the Kings hit a homerun in the draft and free agency and suddenly become a championship caliber team, and Phil Jackson or Greg Popovich opt out of their contracts for a chance to coach the Kings, it will cost the Maloof’s $1.5 million in extra money.

No brainer.

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by section214 on Apr 13, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah - it's not my money

If this is a sign that the penny pinching era has ended, then hallelujah.

On the other hand, if this is coming at the expense of money to be spent in free agency, then I still think it’s stupid.

by nbrans on Apr 13, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coaching salary doesn't affect the salary cap stuff

So no worries

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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the question becomes

If they know they have the additional future expenditures, will that make them more hesitant to use that cap space?

His salary is pretty minimal though, so if that holds the Maloof’s back from spending the money, we’ve got bigger problems than PW as a head coach.

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by otis29 on Apr 13, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's chump change to the Maloofs

and I agree, this isn’t really even worth the discussion

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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will contact Phil and Pop's agents to make sure their calenders are cleared for 2011.

I think the Kings can get them for a measly $10M per, and I know Larry Brown would go for it.

Give Coach Westphal the tools to work with and the confidence to be believed in. This thread sounds too much like a condemantion and he deserves better.

by betweentheeyes on Apr 13, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes he does deserve better

I hate how we are always fighting an uphill battle with the media haters

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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's always the possibility the Kings win tonight and that win total goes to 34.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

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by pookeyguru on Apr 13, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

as a Favors to you, I hope not

I couldn’t resist – I went to the new restaurant I got reservations for to make sure it keeps my streak of superbness intact. Wow! A truly enjoyable meal from beginning to end with very attentive service.

All it needs is gloating sauce. I guess I hope the Kings win tonight.

by betweentheeyes on Apr 13, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's become clear that Hollinger is not a fan of our front office

He raked them for trading Kevin for Carl Landry. He doesn’t particularly like Tyreke’s game, and he takes this non-story from Aileen as an opportunity to pile on.

I don’t get it. The move creates stability. By all accounts, Paul has done a pretty good job, and as Aykis said, he is the cheapest coach in the NBA, so it’s not like we are going out on a huge limb here. The FO did a great job negotiating upfront and now our rewarding Westphal for a job well done.

Washington, Philly and Minny all signed coaches for a lot more money last offseason and in most cases, for a lot longer period of time. How did that work out for them? Why is our FO getting ripped?

by R-Man on Apr 13, 2010 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Dude, that is precisely why the rest of us are aiming to go to hell.

Tanking? I don't know what you're talking about, tanking. I'm just losing more efficiently.

by elfboy_ on Apr 14, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can tell he used to be a fat kid

Takes all his fat kid aggression out on everyone else.

Umm... I thought we were officially refering to Voison as the Chick Replacing Amick at the Paper? or CRAP, for short.

by sac_faithful on Apr 13, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

So let me get this straight. One of the major reasons to extend him Right Now, is because if we waited

he might try to win too many games next season. Really, that’s a concern?

As I said in the other thread, I have no problem with the vote of confidence. I don’t even have a problem with picking up his option early. My only question is why right now?

IMO, it would have been smarter to wait until after the season was over at the minimum. Allow GP and PW to have their exit interviews with the players where they identify targets for the players to improve on in the off season. GP could’ve met individually, as well, to get a different read on how the players related to PW. Waiting 2 weeks would’ve provided more insight. Waiting until the end of October would have provided even more.

Again, I don’t have a problem with the team picking up his option, but it seems very similar to other moves we’ve made. We extended Kevin early which I thought was a good move, but in retrospect, maybe we could’ve signed him cheaper if we’d waited. Same goes for Cisco. We also jumped really quickly at Beno, when waiting a couple of weeks might have been better for us. Hindsight is 20/20, of course. But there is a pattern forming.

The only potential problem, is if PW doesn’t work out and we can him early. Will his salary on the books force the team to shop in the bargain bin for the next coach, again?

It seems to me that waiting a few weeks or a few months would have been the smarter move and we could still have avoided that dangerous situation of having the coach trying to win too many games. There would be no disrespect waiting until training camp to pick up the option, and no upside to doing it right now.

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by Kfan in Korea on Apr 13, 2010 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I think, Kfan, that it's about unity.

If PW had won 35 games next year (at a bare minimum), his contract gets picked up regardless of whether the Kings choose to pick it up or not by the All-Star break or at the end of the season.

Ever since Sam mentioned in his Fanhouse piece yesterday, I was like well the organization feels that 3 years is necessary is properly to evaluate Paul Westphal. I would disagree with PW being extended by his 3rd season, but right now, I don’t see the loss in showing unity. That’s one area where this team has needed to shown improvement IMO. They’ve shown it even if you disagree with the reasons.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

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by pookeyguru on Apr 13, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

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