Why You Extend Westphal
Ailene Voisin wrote an article today suggesting that the Kings were too hasty in extending Paul Westphal's contract, saying:
"The timing makes no sense for a number of reasons, including the most important ones: Westphal was already guaranteed to return as Kings coach next year, and in terms of his job performance, evaluating him on one season would be unfair and absurdly premature."
A few additional key excerpts from Ailene:
"In our gut, it feels right," Kings co-owner Joe Maloof said Monday afternoon. "We think Paul has done a great job for us, and in spite of our record, we feel we're getting better. We don't want any more coaching carousels, all those negatives going into next season. We know it's going to take time to rebuild and we want to know who our coach is."
Surely, there is something to be said for stability, consistency, professionalism and even loyalty.
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Well said G
And I agree that this team needs stability.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Waiting would be unnecessary, and only bears negative ramifications. It’s not like Westphal’s contract is breaking the bank. He’s a steal. Cheapest coach in the league. And he’s working.
doesn’t sound “lazy” or “rash” to me. I funny agree with extending him. He did a good job this year.
Voison, Hollinger, and Peaches can all suck it.
Chuck Norris is not hung like a horse .... horses are hung like Chuck Norris.
I dont know why
it said “funny” … I meant “fully”. I can’t type.
Chuck Norris is not hung like a horse .... horses are hung like Chuck Norris.
Well we already know how much everyone here loves Voisin and Hollinger
I feel like them and Peaches form some sadistic, Kings hating triage.
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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 10:13 AM PDT reply actions
i prefer to call it a Kings Hating Triforce
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Apr 13, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Bush said it best:
Axis of Evil. Though you would need to add the (Redacted) for it to truly be an Evil Empire.
Blessings.Love.Peace
by lifestyleforthesellout on Apr 13, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
It was a no-brainer at the price
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Good job Ex G
You mentioned how inexpensive his contract is relative to the league – additionally, it’s not like a coach’s salary affects your cap space. If PW turns out to be a clunker, you can still let him go before his contract expires.
This is much ado about nothing, IMO.
I've got squirrels in my pants!
Isn't it funny how guys on here, doing these posts for free in their spare time
are more willing to do the research and get the facts before writing, than these people who’s job it is to do these things?
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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
hey those soduko puzzles are not going to solve themselves
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Apr 13, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
If the goal is to have the cheapest guy possible that will do a professional job, than I understand the extension.
Personally, I don’t think the job Westphal has done this year is anything to rave about, except when compared the the guys that came before him.
A one year extension so he’s not a lame duck, I guess I can live with; its not my money at risk. But Paul Westphal hasn’t shown me any reason to believe he’s an above average coach in the NBA so far. Of course he’s not paid like he is either at this point.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
by Grasul on Apr 13, 2010 10:38 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree with you fully
I think only in comparison with our previous three coaches dose he shine brightly, but they were certainly poor coaches. I think he has done a very adequate job this year, but I hate the fact that we have to judge his performance as a bargain, I wish as a franchise we didnt have to worry about coaching salary. I hope he improves next year.
by MichaelMack on Apr 13, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he will improve
He has made it no secret that this season would be up and down and that most of it was testing out different things. Why do you think he is always thanking the fans for their patience. To have a season where it is a total experiment and still improve as much as we did is really good, and he should be given more credit than you guys are giving him. Next year he should be coming out with a solid game plan and things should be much more consistent. I agree he is not one of the top tier coaches in the league, but it’s not like we have any better options.
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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
When he does come out with a coherent game plan, then I'll be onboard.
What a luxury we’ve given him, a year to tinker and play around and learn about what he has or doesn’t have on the team. If next year he shows he’s used this year wisely and we see planning and decision making that looks like an above average NBA coach is calling the shots, I will happily move his grade up several notches.
I’m not saying it won’t happen, only that so far I haven’t see a lot of evidence to suggest it will. It might, I certainly hope so, but Westphal’s been given an entire year with minimalist expectations. I want to see more evidence of a coherant plan next year.
What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
and likewise
if he doesn’t step it up I’ll be twice as hard on him because he had this year to tinker. Hopefully it works out because I think that giving him this one experimental year could be a HUGE factor in future seasons… if he used it properly. I guess we’ll just have to see what he does next year. Also with an extension, he should have nothing on his mind except winning. Hopefully the year stays clear of any more family issues.
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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Co-sign
My biggest points that Ailene ignores beyond what G expertly laid out in the post (with the no-risk, potential reward being the biggest issue).
If you don’t extend him and the team wins 35 games next season but you want to move a different direction, you have to fire (and still pay) a coach who just led a 10-game improvement.
That will go over well.
If anything was premature, it was the Petrie extension. This is timed pretty well, in my estimation. You have to extend him or risk 2008-09 The Sequel. (I do now retroactively question a fairly graspable incentive triggering the third year option though … it’s clever, but a real minefield.)
The Business side
I see a lot of Ailene bashing coming from the Sacto Bee website / comments section, and I had to wonder this morning if maybe this wasn’t written in the similar vein as the piece here on Carl Landry and not picking up his option. The business side is a little bit foreign to alot of folks who are just plain passionate about basketball, and in that light what she wrote potentially makes some sense.(?) For me, the bottom line is that the Maloofs have made a “commitment” to getting better, and that is at least partially achieved through consistency. I like it, and hope that PW can prove he’s worth it by getting us in position to flirt with the playoffs next year. One last note – Hooray for ping pong balls and here’s to hoping we get the kind of treatment the Clippers got last year (4th worst finish getting the 1st pick…)
Lame duck coaches never succeed is Sac
Adelman had his worse season as a lame duck coach. Thues was mildly succesful in his first season but never got the 3rd year guarenteed and things went down hill in season two for him.
Exhibit G - Rec'd
Ailene – Wrecked
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by section214 on Apr 13, 2010 11:08 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Umm... I thought we were officially refering to Voison as the Chick Replacing Amick at the Paper?
or CRAP, for short
#vfettkefordraft
"The Kings will get a top 3 pick in the 2010 draft. Book it!"
by vfettke on Apr 13, 2010 11:32 AM PDT reply actions 13 recs
I think "Chick" was a fortunate choice of vernacular for her sake.
I had a slightly more colorful one in mind…
rec’d for creativity!
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
by Balky Needs on Apr 13, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought of it too
believe me
#vfettkefordraft
"The Kings will get a top 3 pick in the 2010 draft. Book it!"
Disagreeing with Voison results in....
…being accurate 100% of the time it’s tried.
She’s a hack!
Well said, G.
We need to accept that sometimes the bad guys recognize the madmen.
Even the Russians knew Hitler was bad news.
Tanking? I don't know what you're talking about, tanking. I'm just losing more efficiently.
Peaches, he tells us wether or not we are allowed to like King's basketball
“If you don’t like that, you don’t like King’s basketball!!”
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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
For CRAP's sake
I read the article and it reminded me of the piece written here @ STR about not picking up Landry’s option. Another STR inspired Bee article, perhaps!?
where is kenny natt when u need him
by nakaisgod on Apr 13, 2010 12:21 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
The real reason that Ailene is ticked?
Because PW is not this guy –

And don’t get her started on these guys –


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by section214 on Apr 13, 2010 12:28 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Funny thing is, most people actually agreed with her on the Rubio thing
Myself included, but it just made it seem dirty and wrong. Just goes to show, ALWAYS just do the opposite of Voiline’s advise
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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Voisin^
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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Ricky is really a woman and that could explain Ailene's crush.
It’s not a man, man!
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
You cannot make chicken salad with chicken ...
First, I like PW and am glad he is staying, and he does a good job. We went from 17 wins to 25, and I cannot help but wonder if much of this is merely having better players, and if Reggie couldn’t have achieved 25 with this roster. Still prefer PW, though for his maturity and good humor.
I agree with jozyme
This team does not have much talent on it. The only player we HAVE to keep is Tyreke.
I wish
We ahd offered the job to Scott Brooks! I am on the fence about Westphal
To be fair to Paul
Brooks has a lot more to work with.
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He wasn't ripping it up last year either.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I love Brooks
But after Muss/Theus/Natt, the Kings could not afford to hand the keys to another newbie. OKC was a better locale for Brooks, and Westphal was the right call for this franchise at this particular moment.
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I think it was meant instead of Theus 214.
Not after the 3 headed monster of Muss/Theus/Natt.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Think about it this way
Brooks already had his job in OKC guaranteed AFTER his interim deal by the time the Kings hired PW.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
once again, there is a fork in the road and the Kings get criticized either way
This is not a story, it is a headline to a controversy. If the Kings had not extended Westphal’s contract the story would have been damning the guy after he brought so much to the Kings and why can’t the Kings keep a coach, especially one that was mentioned in the Coach of the Year talks three months ago.
I don’t know the structure of Paul Westphal’s contract, that is between him and ownership and front office. My best guess, since that is all I can work with, is that he did everything he said he was going to do. He improved the team: they have won more (he collected an incentive bonus at 25 wins), he highlighted the new talent (expected RoY Tyreke Evans was given the keys to the car early and often – thank goodness) and kept this team interesting and exciting (boy, I miss November).
Not extending Paul Westphal is a vote of no confidence. That is not the same as waiting until next year. He has been a calming influence to the team and their fans. Want to talk to Philly, Minny, NJ, Chicago and Washington about coaching? Last summer’s search wasn’t damning enough? The Kings signed the best guy out there currently and for a song. I can’t see anything other than good here. And Hollinger is a horse’s ass for throwing his two cents in – does he work for Dan Fegan too?
Dear god it pains me to say this, but I agree with Voisin
At least it’s not my money. If they want to spend $1.5 million extra to fire Westphal when the honeymoon is over more power to them.
I really, really don’t understand the mass love for Westphal around here. The talent is much better than last season, the end result is not.
The talent is much better than last season
I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
I've got squirrels in my pants!
by otis29 on Apr 13, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tyreke won us about 20 games this year
other than the addition of him and Omri, the team largely stayed the same, but with injury troubles.
by VenomySnicket on Apr 13, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Would that qualify as a Martini?
.75% proof, all the time.
Tanking? I don't know what you're talking about, tanking. I'm just losing more efficiently.
But tongue out of cheek
I know what you mean about “much.” This isn’t a playoff team by any stretch of the imagination.
I just don’t agree with the people who think he’s getting the most out of anyone on the team other than Tyreke and Beno. I don’t think JT and Hawes, for instance, have shown marked improvement, I don’t think the lineup changes have helped, and can anyone honestly say that this team looks better at the end of the season than they did at the beginning?
I will agree
that Westphal is not a panacea. But who would have done better with this squad? And Westpahl’s salary is so small (by NBA standards), the Kings can easily move forward with a “premier” coach should one become available.
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Like Larry Brown?
Whose already looking to move out of Charlotte now that they’re finally in the playoffs. Guy is like a rental service.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I don't necessarily disagree with you
He hasn’t been overly impressive in my opinion. His experimentation with the rotations went on way too long, his brouhaha with Spencer was very unprofessional (albeit by both parties), and you listed the most damning piece of evidence – that the team seems to have regressed down the stretch.
However, he is dealing with the youngest roster in the NBA, and one that is seriously bereft of on-court veteran leadership. And the Kings need to stop the coaching carousel at least for a bit – this exercising of the option is just as much for looks as it is for PW’s performance. It brings the appearance of stability. And I don’t really have a problem with that.
I’m still in the camp that he’s done enough to stay on for next year – and the option just prevents him from appearing to be a lame duck next season. But he’s still got a lot to prove, and I don’t think exercising the option guarantees he will be the coach here for that option season.
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by otis29 on Apr 13, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Completely agree
Very well put.
I’m not 100% in support of everything PW has done, but I definitely feel like exercising the option was the right move for the franchise.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
What don't you support that PW has done?
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I don't agree with his constant lineup changing
but he has coached a team to the finals, so…
by VenomySnicket on Apr 13, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay that's one thing.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
The public flogging of Spencer Hawes
A small pass given due to the fact that PW was stressed due to a family illness at the time, but if you want your players to be professional, practice what you preach.
All in all, Westphal has met my expectations.
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Agreed about the professionalism.
But the line-up changes? When you consider that we had three rookies, two second-year players who had two coaches their first year, a third-year player on his fourth coach and two of our top veterans out for an extended period, you have to change the line-ups to see what works.
We were never going to be a winning team this year, so it helps if you view the entire season in the light of an extended training camp.
I like Westphal because he seems to know how to make guys work, how to keep them together and competing every night despite the losing, and because his development of our young core of players, especially Tyreke Evans, has been stellar.
Stellar.
Did anyone think Casspi, Donté or Brockman would contribute at the level they did? Evans reached 20-5-5 and grew exponentially from the first month of the season.
Did anyone notice that instead of being blown out night after night, we were in almost every game? Is that not a result of a highly functioning coaching staff?
Westphal’s extension was necessary at this point, not “rash” or “premature”. There are only three ways he could have been given a well-deserved vote of confidence: More responsibility, more money or more time. More time is the most prudent of the three.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Apr 13, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
This
Did anyone notice that instead of being blown out night after night, we were in almost every game? Is that not a result of a highly functioning coaching staff?
This is my favorite part about Westphal’s influence. We reduced the 20+ blowouts from something like 20 down to something like 3. At the beginning of the season, I just asked that the last two minutes of the games matter. This team delivered on that in spades.
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You make a lot of good points on the lineup changes
There are two issues there I didn’t care for – it seemed he was more focused on matchups with the opposition than developing his young players with consistent minutes. I don’t have specifics, but I remember being slightly annoyed that guys like Donté would have a solid game one night and then not get off the bench the next game.
Second, we were well into the second half of the season before it felt like there was a consistent rotation…there are probably good reasons for it, but it seemed like it took way longer than necessary.
As far as the blowouts, I would agree. On the other hand, the team has played pretty poorly down the stretch.
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Great Points
As I said, I haven’t been 100% in support of everything he has done, but that is not to say I’m against Westphal.
I gave him leeway on the line-ups for most of the season, but at a certain point you have to settle on a rotation so players can properly anticipate their roles. Along with this, I really took issue with the way he handled the Spencer situation.
Those are my two main gripes. Aside from that, I’m very impressed right now, and very happy that he’s the coach of the Kings. Hence my support of his option being picked up.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
For $1.5 million,
the Kings do not have to get caught up in the mechinations of achieving 35 wins next year, at which point the 3rd year of Westphal’s contract would have automatically kicked in. Fro $1.5 million, this young squad knows that Westphal is likely to be calling the shots for the next two years. For $1.5 million, there is no distraction next year as to whether or not Westphal’s contract is going to be extended.
If the Kings hit a homerun in the draft and free agency and suddenly become a championship caliber team, and Phil Jackson or Greg Popovich opt out of their contracts for a chance to coach the Kings, it will cost the Maloof’s $1.5 million in extra money.
No brainer.
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Yeah - it's not my money
If this is a sign that the penny pinching era has ended, then hallelujah.
On the other hand, if this is coming at the expense of money to be spent in free agency, then I still think it’s stupid.
Coaching salary doesn't affect the salary cap stuff
So no worries
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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
But the question becomes
If they know they have the additional future expenditures, will that make them more hesitant to use that cap space?
His salary is pretty minimal though, so if that holds the Maloof’s back from spending the money, we’ve got bigger problems than PW as a head coach.
I've got squirrels in my pants!
That's chump change to the Maloofs
and I agree, this isn’t really even worth the discussion
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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I will contact Phil and Pop's agents to make sure their calenders are cleared for 2011.
I think the Kings can get them for a measly $10M per, and I know Larry Brown would go for it.
Give Coach Westphal the tools to work with and the confidence to be believed in. This thread sounds too much like a condemantion and he deserves better.
by betweentheeyes on Apr 13, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes he does deserve better
I hate how we are always fighting an uphill battle with the media haters
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by prowseinthehouse on Apr 13, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
There's always the possibility the Kings win tonight and that win total goes to 34.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
as a Favors to you, I hope not
I couldn’t resist – I went to the new restaurant I got reservations for to make sure it keeps my streak of superbness intact. Wow! A truly enjoyable meal from beginning to end with very attentive service.
All it needs is gloating sauce. I guess I hope the Kings win tonight.
by betweentheeyes on Apr 13, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
It's become clear that Hollinger is not a fan of our front office
He raked them for trading Kevin for Carl Landry. He doesn’t particularly like Tyreke’s game, and he takes this non-story from Aileen as an opportunity to pile on.
I don’t get it. The move creates stability. By all accounts, Paul has done a pretty good job, and as Aykis said, he is the cheapest coach in the NBA, so it’s not like we are going out on a huge limb here. The FO did a great job negotiating upfront and now our rewarding Westphal for a job well done.
Washington, Philly and Minny all signed coaches for a lot more money last offseason and in most cases, for a lot longer period of time. How did that work out for them? Why is our FO getting ripped?
Hollinger and Voisin are a match made in heaven : )
Dirty Di*k's and Shi% listen to this arithmetics
Dude, that is precisely why the rest of us are aiming to go to hell.
Tanking? I don't know what you're talking about, tanking. I'm just losing more efficiently.
You can tell he used to be a fat kid
Takes all his fat kid aggression out on everyone else.
Umm... I thought we were officially refering to Voison as the Chick Replacing Amick at the Paper? or CRAP, for short.
by sac_faithful on Apr 13, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
So let me get this straight. One of the major reasons to extend him Right Now, is because if we waited
he might try to win too many games next season. Really, that’s a concern?
As I said in the other thread, I have no problem with the vote of confidence. I don’t even have a problem with picking up his option early. My only question is why right now?
IMO, it would have been smarter to wait until after the season was over at the minimum. Allow GP and PW to have their exit interviews with the players where they identify targets for the players to improve on in the off season. GP could’ve met individually, as well, to get a different read on how the players related to PW. Waiting 2 weeks would’ve provided more insight. Waiting until the end of October would have provided even more.
Again, I don’t have a problem with the team picking up his option, but it seems very similar to other moves we’ve made. We extended Kevin early which I thought was a good move, but in retrospect, maybe we could’ve signed him cheaper if we’d waited. Same goes for Cisco. We also jumped really quickly at Beno, when waiting a couple of weeks might have been better for us. Hindsight is 20/20, of course. But there is a pattern forming.
The only potential problem, is if PW doesn’t work out and we can him early. Will his salary on the books force the team to shop in the bargain bin for the next coach, again?
It seems to me that waiting a few weeks or a few months would have been the smarter move and we could still have avoided that dangerous situation of having the coach trying to win too many games. There would be no disrespect waiting until training camp to pick up the option, and no upside to doing it right now.
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I think, Kfan, that it's about unity.
If PW had won 35 games next year (at a bare minimum), his contract gets picked up regardless of whether the Kings choose to pick it up or not by the All-Star break or at the end of the season.
Ever since Sam mentioned in his Fanhouse piece yesterday, I was like well the organization feels that 3 years is necessary is properly to evaluate Paul Westphal. I would disagree with PW being extended by his 3rd season, but right now, I don’t see the loss in showing unity. That’s one area where this team has needed to shown improvement IMO. They’ve shown it even if you disagree with the reasons.
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