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Preview: Kings at Lakers

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A NOTE

Please do not think that because tonight will find the Kings in their final match of the 2009-10 season we will slow down. We will not. Check back early Wednesday as we roll out some awards posts. Next week, we start diving into free agency and the draft. We will root against the Lakers. We will beg Chris Bosh to visit. We will debate Kyle Lowry vs. Raymond Felton, Amir Johnson vs. Ian Mahinmi. We will debate Ekpe Udoh vs. Ed Davis, John Wall vs. Evan Turner. We will cover the draft lottery, draft and free agency like no other Kings community in existence. In August, section214 will drop a combo of history and humor in the way only he can. Did I mention we will root against the Lakers?

Don't abandon us over the summer, because we shall not abandon you.

SCOUTING REPORT

The Lakers shall not care to win, really -- it doesn't matter, and Kobe Bryant won't play (SCARED MUCH KOBE HUH HUH HUH?), so getting "in the flow" is shot. But the big men not named Andrew Bynum shall play, and those buggers always give Sacramento trouble, and Laker Killer Spencer Hawes is out.

Sasha Vujacic was the first guard off the bench Sunday; he'll apparently start. Obviously, unless Ron Artest guards Tyreke Evans the entire game, our R.O.Y. will have some openings for a boisterous scoring night. If Ron-Ron does stick to Reke, look for Andres Nocioni to take 32 FGAs. By halftime.

Pau Gasol is not remotely handsome, I don't know why you guys keep implying as much.

KEY BATTLE

Kevin Durant vs. Ron Artest.

BOLD PROCLAMATION

Pau Gasol will take zero threes.

BOLD BROCKLAMATION

Jon Brockman will become the third Kings big man to take a three-pointer this week, following mixed results from Jason Thompson and Carl Landry. (By the way, I forgot to address this in the recap, but did y'all here Landry is working on his three-point stroke? If he comes back to Sacramento next fall as a small forward, I'm going to light myself on fire sideways and extinguish the conflagration on a bed of hot coals in Mercury's orbit.)

DETAILS

7:30 PM PT. Two game threads (7:30, 8:45) and a post-gamer (10:15). THIS IS FOR ALL THE MARBLES!, in the case that the marbles are invisible and weightless.

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I'm sad to see the season come to a close

It’s been a frustrating season at the same time a full filling season because of the future with Tyreke.

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on Apr 13, 2010 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Honestly, I would like to see Carl play some small forward, the way Corliss did at times, especially before Peja started producing.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Apr 13, 2010 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Why not try that tonight a little bit, and force Ron-Ron to cover Landry instead of Tyreke?

Last game of the season, I think it is a worthwhile experiment. Jason, Brockman, and Landry all on the court at the same time? That would be one of the hardest-working frontlines ever.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Apr 13, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but...

It would also play defense like the Maginot Line.

by shahani on Apr 13, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

any WWII

gets a rec. Nice

"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes

by debrixtha1 on Apr 13, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it depends on who the Laker's put out there.

I think Landry can defend Odom or Artest or Walton at the 3 spot as well as anybody. I wouldn’t suggest using Thompson, Brockman, and Landry all at the same time very often, but it is the last game of the season, why not have some fun, and make the Lakers adjust for once.

Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut

by Ice_9ine on Apr 13, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that's a great idea against a team like the Redacted.

PG: Reke
SG: Francisco
SF: Landry
PF: May
C: Thompson

Just to see if it works. I really think Sean May is an underrated player. He’s a solid rotation guy off the bench that rebounds well and will consistently hit that 15-20 footer with relative consistency. He’s a great pick and pop complement to Tyreke, the way I wish Hawes and/or Thompson would become.

by Smills9133 on Apr 13, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least it would be one more starting line up to add to this year

Umm... I thought we were officially refering to Voison as the Chick Replacing Amick at the Paper? or CRAP, for short.

by sac_faithful on Apr 13, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last game

Of the season Brent, can’t hold anything back now.

And that's wassup.

by Sacramento_Strong on Apr 13, 2010 7:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

By the way, I forgot to address this in the recap, but did y’all here Landry is working on his three-point stroke? If he comes back to Sacramento next fall as a small forward, I’m going to light myself on fire sideways and extinguish the conflagration on a bed of hot coals nails in Mercury’s orbit.

I’m with ya here TZ. Carl’s advantage is using his athleticism and quickness to get buckets near the rim. He’s brilliant at it. Why make him a SF?

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 13, 2010 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Ayep

One Corey Maggette in this world is enough, right?

(Actually, now that I think about Corey … hmm …)

by Tom Ziller on Apr 13, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

We domesticated Brad Miller, too

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Apr 13, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. That worked out so well for us.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 13, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's really one of the most disappointing things in the past decade.

Miller was a damned bruiser when he got here, and just got soft.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Apr 13, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that was mostly the marijuana

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Apr 13, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Before teaming up with C-Webb and Mike Bibby though?

Thats a whole ’nother level.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Apr 13, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Here Vlade try this , its a new fancy cigar”

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Apr 13, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a perfect storm, admittedly.

I still remember what Bibby yelled out when Kobe whacked him in the nose.

“Dude! That’s my skull!

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Apr 13, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta love Spicoli.

Sean Penn and Eric Stoltz never looked better-

The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.

by jjham15 on Apr 13, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

then again. . .

if he is able to murder big men in the post, imagine what he’d be able to do against some of the weaker 3s in the league.

I really think we should give it a shot tonight … we’ve really got nothing to lose

by gregsactly on Apr 13, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

We shall not abandon you

Seriously folks, I know there have been a lot of new contributors this season. If you haven’t experienced an StR Summer, you’re in for a treat. We’re about the enter the realm of endless debates which cannot be conclusively proven correct or incorrect. Or as I like to call it, Exhibit G’s preferred writing style.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Apr 13, 2010 3:27 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

At least you have a writing style. So there's something.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 13, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never a dull moment

I've got squirrels in my pants!

by otis29 on Apr 13, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could go to GSoM and argue about the ROTY though if you want excitement.

I’m sure there is still argument going on over there.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 13, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I swore off checking out GSoM over a year ago

That place is a festival of idiots – it’s not worth sifting through most of the nonsense to hear what the coherent posters are talking about (and there are plenty of them there).

I've got squirrels in my pants!

by otis29 on Apr 13, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with you Otis.

I followed your link yesterday Pookey and it took an hour of my life that I will never get back. TS% is obviously the only stat with any merit, any where, ever. Way to fight the good fight.

The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.

by jjham15 on Apr 13, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.
…you’re in for a treat.

Yet

…cannot be conclusively proven correct or incorrect.

As it was, as it shall be.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Apr 13, 2010 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Come on and lose Kings

Lottery chances are more important than pride!!!

by mayfieldcol on Apr 13, 2010 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I've got 48 minutes of win-rooting left in me

A loss won’t break my heart, but I’m still pulling for a win.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Apr 13, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

this...

every game for the past week. It’s kind of a no lose situation.

I sit on the edge of my couch, jumping up and down for 44 mins and then when the inevitable collapse happens and we lose…no letdown!

I highly recommend this approach to tonight’s game. No guilt for the true fan, no pain after the loss. It’s been highly therapeutic (sp?)

"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes

by debrixtha1 on Apr 13, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

STFU

I've got squirrels in my pants!

by otis29 on Apr 13, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not when your going against the Lakers its not.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Apr 13, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with Section

Much like the t-shirts used to say.

It’d be nice to stick another knife in the shredded parachute of the Laker freefall, but if a loss gets us more ping pong balls, I’ll live with it.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Apr 13, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh I'll live with a loss

I have no problem if we lose. But I’ve got to root for the win and I want to see this team trying to win, which hasn’t been a problem this year. This year I’ve gotten pretty much everything I could’ve hope for out of this team (except for Kevin being traded and Spencer not having a breakout year)

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Apr 13, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're on a roll with the subtle humor today

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on Apr 13, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah-

I gave him a subtle rec. It won’t show up on the board, but he’ll receive it on his death bed. So he has that going for him, which is nice.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Apr 13, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not against the Lakers!

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on Apr 13, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, well, well,

Look who decided to show up. You posted all over the McC GDTs for the Giants’ game against the lowly Pirates, but you couldn’t be bothered to turn up at STR for Reke’s most important game and Kevin’s return.

For shame, sir.

"El once, chico. Eleven."

by Juan Primo on Apr 13, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, I'll start the war.
(By the way, I forgot to address this in the recap, but did y’all here Landry is working on his three-point stroke? If he comes back to Sacramento next fall as a small forward, I’m going to light myself on fire sideways and extinguish the conflagration on a bed of hot coals in Mercury’s orbit.)

The dude rebounds like a small forward. And who is to say that a) Landry can’t get his jumper off against SFs and b) That he can’t post up 98% of SFs in the league. I agree that Landry is quick and that is his advantage against most PFs but I think he can guard most three’s and I also think he is best suited to play off the bench. If Landry comes back next season as a combo 3/4 scorer off the bench with a super big added to the roster either through FA or the draft then I am ok with this and I would rather see him shooting the three than JT or Spence.

The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.

by jjham15 on Apr 13, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Them's fighting words

Rather see him shooting the three than Spencer. Consider yourself slapped by my glove. ;)

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Apr 13, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

A lacy glove you borrowed from Spencer Hawes.

 Rebound big man. REBOUND!

The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.

by jjham15 on Apr 13, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Now, you insult my choice in outerwear. Beware the man with the 2x4 standing behind you.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Apr 13, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's actually a 4x6

Home Depot had a sale going… sure, it smells a bit moldy, but 3 bucks for a bludgeon tool? Not a bad deal.

GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel

by iashwash on Apr 13, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

He can't rebound.

He is too busy shooting 3s to be under the basket doing his job.

by carlsbadace on Apr 13, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spencer took 87 3-pt shots or 1.2 per game. Don't think thats hurting his rebounding.

He’s got bigger problems that 3pt shooting affecting his rebounding. Not the least of which is how he’s used in the offense. If he’s playing out near the 3pt arc, you can be sure that is because that’s where PW wants him to be.

Maybe it’s because PW feels that he can draw his defender away from the basket, or maybe it’s because PW feels Spencer is better offensively from the high post, or maybe it’s because PW doesn’t believe Spencer is affective down low. But, you can be sure that’s what PW wants or Spencer would be on the end of the bench. And, as long as he’s going to be playing from the high post, expect to see more not less 3-pt shots next season.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Apr 13, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

not only PW

wasnt spencer shooting even more threes last season? i mean he has gone through pleanty of coaches and he has played along the perimeter a decent amount with each of them. maybe this speaks more to spencers skill set than any individal coaching philosophy.

(im new here and i have 0 stats to back up my observations so i may be totally off. . . )

by gregsactly on Apr 13, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basketball Reference is a handy statistical site to back up arguments such as this.

If you bookmark it, you will not be sorry.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 13, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

In 2008/09 season Spencer took 115 or 1.5 per game

But, he shot 5% better, or 34.6% or TS% of 52.2%. Which is below the league average of 52.9% but more than exceptable. Beno is the best on the team this season with 59.6% and the league average at the rim this season is 60.9 which is also the average to the Kings team as a whole.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Apr 14, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Landry's niche already

of course he could always be more dominant. With that said, even if he is going to work on his range I still think the three ball will be used situationally for Sir Carl—-like the celebrity-all star game.

by sac_faithful on Apr 13, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha

are they the same weightless, invisible ones mentioned above?

"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes

by debrixtha1 on Apr 13, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see that an edit is in order:

Should read:

Preview: Kings @ The Redacted.

by Smills9133 on Apr 13, 2010 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

yep.

33 Wins. Yeah, I said it.

by JETisKing on Apr 13, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

that never gets old

"Oh boy! If you don't like that you don't like Kings basketball"-Peaches

by AkaP on Apr 13, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good quality.

GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel

by iashwash on Apr 13, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone Donté this.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Apr 13, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Happy now, guys?

TO THE SPAMMING ASSHOLE THAT WILL NO DOUBT BE BACK IN ABOUT TWENTY MINUTES TO POST HIS BULLSHIT AGAIN:
She really hurt you, didn’t she? You just put your heart out there, and she crushed you. You wanted it so bad, but she could only look at you with disgust. You spent so long preparing that card too.
Get over it you fuck, YOU GUYS WERE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL. Look at what a fuck-up you’ve become. Gosh, you’re a fucking loser. Why the fuck would anyone want a Valentine from you now, you fuck-face, you can’t even spell "Deliver", do you really expect anyone to accept that shit? Fuck you and your fuck, you fucking fuck of fuckeority.

GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel

by iashwash on Apr 13, 2010 7:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I totally dont get it.

I ll assume something was deleted…

by chenp22 on Apr 14, 2010 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

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