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The Unlikely Hole: Blazers 98, Kings 87

On paper, the Kings played well in just about every match-up. Jason Thompson beasted on the scoreboard (18 points on 12 shots) while Carl Landry tore up the offensive glass (six), which cut down the big night from LaMarcus Aldridge (21/9) and the seemingly solid boardwork from Marcus Camby (15). Andre Miller bursted for 23, but Beno Udrih 22 of his own. Nicolas Batum went berserk with 21, but Andres Nocioni and Omri Casspi combined for 25 on efficient shooting.

Brandon Roy, of course, as he always does against the Kings, went off: 24 points on 8/14 floor, 7/8 line. His counterweight, Tyreke Evans? Just six points on 2/12 shooting.

And that's the ballgame.

It remains amazing the Kings could be in this game despite Reke's bad night, and that's a credit to all those other players mentioned. They all seemed to come up with big plays through the second half to keep Sacramento within a certain graspable reach.

You don't expect this to happen regularly, both Evans to be the drain and the others to be the heroes. But it could happen a few more times this season, with Evans clearly struggling to keep up the pace with that mouthpiece hurting his breathing. Of course, that could spell doom for ye old 20-5-5 gambit, and also for this team's hope of winning at least one more game. Without Tyreke playing well, it's really really difficult for the Kings to win. (Clippers games not applicable.)

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The end, the beginning and the resurrection of points (Easter influenced commentary)

The means justify the ends – Tyreke getting his points should results in a Kings win. Tyreke not scoring was not Tyreke not shooting against the Blazers, If he had finiished with 20 points last night it would not have hindered the sweet strokes of Jason Thompson and Beno Udrih.

Tyreke, already impressively consistent this season faces his biggest challenge. He has a lot riding on his shoulders. Groan, his cross to bear. All of those T-Shirts, four months of non stop 20-5-5,banter the Blueprint, the campaigning of the Kings organziation, and his semming justification for RoY, almost ignoring the skill of the young LayUp King. So much paranoia, so little time.

Evans had his already bandaged knee nailed last night. He is struggling with his wind – it is a bee in his bonnet. He must overcome it, and of course, he will.
Will Tyreke wear the crown of thorns, shrouded in shame or be raised up for all to praise?

by betweentheeyes on Apr 4, 2010 7:49 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

I'm really beginning to wonder about Tyreke's mouthpiece.

I understand that the thickness of the mouthguard is a factor in preventing concussions; however, if the construction of the mouthguard significantly impacts user performance, then that is a problem for the elite athlete to play effectively. I hope that the dentists are looking into having a different one made for Tyreke that doesn’t hinder his playing performance to the extent that his current one seems to.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Apr 4, 2010 7:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Here is a link

sports dentistry

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Apr 4, 2010 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

The mouthpiece affects him somewhat

But the Blazers and Batum were the reasons Tyreke didn’t put up gaudy numbers last night.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 4, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tyreke’s seasons stats against Batum weren’t good, especially with he and Camby. That’s a lot of length for a rookie to deal with.

#52

by Cablinasian on Apr 4, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 4, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Peaches said he looks uncomfortable with the mouth piece.

Thus, the lord mouth piece of the kings has spoken and so it is decreed that Evans’ only problem is his mouth guard. Nothing else is wrong with him. As you watched last night, the mouth piece got in the way of those missed layups, caused them to spiral off the rim or bang too hard off the glass. The mouth piece (not ginger) is obviously constructed of evil plastic minted in the demon frothing hellish bowels of the Lakers Staples center.

by carlsbadace on Apr 4, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

lol

This sorta reminds of Shaun Alexander when he was an MVP for the Seahawks. I remember him saying the #1 thing that helped him improve was that he learned to not hold his breath when running through the hole. He had to focus on how to breathe properly.

I can understand the mouth piece affecting him, but c’mon, we’re talking about a mouth piece

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on Apr 4, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

are we talking about

plastic? PLASTIC? Not a game. Not a game. Plastic, man?

"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes

by debrixtha1 on Apr 5, 2010 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

We are talking about something that affects his breathing and concentration.

That can affect his performance. How if someone stuck something in your mouth and had you run around for 45 minutes? I think that might affect you. Or, how about holding a mouthful of Cheerios in your mouth and run back and forth on the court making a few baskets without swallowing? C’mon its just some Cheerios. You can do it Wally.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Apr 5, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used the Cheerio metaphor to illustrate that when you have something in

your mouth, while you are performing, it is a distraction, even though you can still “breathe properly” through your nose.

Not all mouthguards are alike. In the article that I linked to above, custom-made mouthguards for concussion prevention are described as creating a “forward/ downward movement of the jaw.” So not only do they fit around the teeth, but they can affect jaw position.

I think it is possible that Tyreke’s mouthguard is currently significantly affecting his performance. I wish Jason Jones would follow up with some questions about it / do some research on the topic. If Sam Amick were still covering the Kings it wouldn’t surprise me if he would have been on the story.

But if you do not see the possibility that the mouthpiece is affecting Tyreke, then continue thinking that.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Apr 5, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I believe it affected his game.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Apr 4, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

My opinion is

Tyreke gets gaurded by every teams ace defensive small forward & no one covers Brandon Roy. Problem is we don’t have a small forward who can gaurd opposing teams best player on a consistent basis & is consistent enough offensively who needs to be gaurded. Everyone always focuses on the need for a big man & maybe a 2 gaurd but I believe we have one more hole & that’s at the SF.
I’m not saying Donte or Omri won’t become that because I believe they will one day but for the next year or two this is something we will have to deal with unless we land a stud SF to replace them which probably isn’t our most pressing need but a need nonetheless.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Apr 4, 2010 8:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Andres Nocioni equals efficient shooting, duh!

"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"

by chapuforyou on Apr 4, 2010 8:33 AM PDT reply actions  

If only that were true.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Apr 5, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tyreke

Another game that underscores the principle that if you can shut down the other team’s star you have a good chance of winning. Nuggest shut down Brandon Roy the other day and won in a blowout. Blazers shut down Tyreke and win.

You guys should consider it is not necessarily so much that Tyreke had a bad game as it is a matter of Blazers having a very good wing defender in Nicolas Batum. Batum always gets assigned to defend the Kobes, Lebrons, Durants, etc. He’s not always successful but often he holds the opposing star to a subpar or sometimes even a very poor offensive game.

by lsjogren on Apr 4, 2010 9:20 AM PDT reply actions  

more likely

a bit of both. give credit where credit is due. But Tyreke had a subpar performance and seemed both tired and hobbled.

by betweentheeyes on Apr 4, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

True, but don't forget Camby sitting right past Batum.

He could have gotten past Batum, but Camby is quite a shot blocker.

by MustangMBS on Apr 4, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

the Blazers are adept at collapsing the lane

the did the same tactic last contest. And yes, Camby was closer to Huskie than Clipper in his energy level around the rim last night.

by betweentheeyes on Apr 4, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

long defenders tend to give evans trouble..

we have seen battier, mbah a moute (i have no idea how thats spelled), and batum give evans a hard time

BUT the good news is that when evans works on that outside shot and can hit that consistently, those long defenders cant defend evans only for the drive as they have been doing

by Surprise Team on Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM PDT reply actions  

The mouthpiece is the mouthpiece making excuses.

Athletes of this caliber can get most of the oxygen they need by inhaling through their noses. I was taught that in order to utilize oxygen best for athletics, one should inhale through the nose, and exhale through the mouth. Any dental guard is not going to interfere with exhalation, and truth be told, it shouldn’t be making any significant difference even if Tyreke Evans is, for lack of a more useful term, a mouth-breather.

If a tiny piece of polymerized plastic is what keeps him from getting his 20/5/5, he wasn’t going to get it anyway.

That kid is worn the fuck out. He can refuse to call it a “rookie wall” if he wants, but this late in his first season, any team committed to chasing him around with a Batum-caliber defender is going to have their way, for the most part.

I hope he gets it. It won’t be the mouth guard that stops him.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Apr 4, 2010 11:29 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree with most of your comments andy

but i wouldn’t say it is a tiny piece of plastic being that it takes up probably over 90-95% of your mouth. That would make the mouthpiece technically huge in those terms. It will take time to get used to like a mask. Although I don’t think it is costing him any points. I will blame Batum & Camby for that.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Apr 4, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've worn them.

The mostly just make a mold of your teeth, and then the thing slips over them in a pretty snug manner. It’s annoying, but not a hindrance, and certainly doesn’t take up anything like 90% of your space. It’s an adjustment, and he’ll get used to it. If Rip Hamilton can play with a mask (which has got to be strange), then Evans can adjust to this. The Scarlet Douchebag needs to stop making excuses for Evans.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Apr 4, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aren't you assuming that all mouthguards are alike?

Some mouthguards are thicker than others. Some are designed to prevent concussions. This is from the link I provided above, “Thicker mouthguards are often not user-friendly. Increased thickness, while improving performance marginally, may result in less wearer comfort and acceptance.”

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Apr 4, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gerald Wallace wears an anti-concussion type mouthpiece.

#52

by Cablinasian on Apr 4, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

hanging out of his mouth protecting his lower lip & chin

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Apr 4, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol - my point exactly.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Apr 4, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

andy sims an athlete?

andy sims seems more like the name of an accountant. I’m just messin with you andy.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Apr 4, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like youre selling yourself a lil short on that 1 sims. :P

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 4, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't sell yourself short, Pook.

You’re a tremendous slouch.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Apr 4, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Indeed Sims. Indeed.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 4, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you have learned nothing else from this fan site

we are all suckers. A realization that can have as much meaning as one wishes to attach to it, but true nontheless.

by betweentheeyes on Apr 4, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've learned a good deal from this place. And hope to continue to learn alot as time moves forward.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 4, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've learned a good deal from this place. And I hope to continue to learn alot as time moves forward.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 4, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tyreke's performance didn't bother me

as much as his effort and attitude did. I won’t lie, I left Arco pissed at him, thinking that if he would’ve done just a little bit more on other areas of the game we would’ve won. Forget about scoring the ball, help your team on defense and help your other guys attle for the tough rebounds.

He continues to jog back after missing layups and leaving his teammates to be 4-5 on defense. He patiently gets back on D and then decides to pick up the guy that’s closer to him without thinking about rotations or mismatches. Watch the wide open 3 Rudy Fernandez launched amost at the end of the third and you’ll see who’s fault that is.

This has been going on all season and just because he’s our “superstar in the making” I’m, personally, not going to give him the pass. If this was Spencer, JT, Donte, Beno, or any other player, we would be killing them. Omri’s tired too, I don’t see him not running back to pick up his man on D after missing shots.

I’m not overly worried about this right now, but I’ll be watching closely to see if it continues next season. Just because the Kings org has annointed him as ‘our savior’ doesn’t mean he’s getting a pass (at least from me).

Fire away, I can take it.

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Apr 4, 2010 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

ed doesn't care

in brevity a bite can still be a mouthful

by betweentheeyes on Apr 4, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for pointing this stuff out ed you are very observant

I wonder if he is already getting the veteran star treatment from the coaches & they are not pointing out these things. Or maybe they don’t see it because they are focused too much on the problem areas of other players. Someone needs to take him into the tape room & point out these things because he might not see it himself if they merely tell him.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Apr 4, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with this

And that’s one of my fears, that’s he’s getting a ‘pass’ from the coaching staff beause of who he is. We have to hold every player accountable; call it “the Popovich approach.”

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Apr 4, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am with you Ed

I can’t praise his abilities enough, but after all of the excitement of having the best rookie in the NBA (by far, I think) wears off, I think there are things to watch. I was shocked at his lack of effort last night, tired or not, I cant imagine Beno is not just as tired, he has worked his ass of this year. He played very little defense, and three times I counted he dribbled the ball for longer than ten seconds once he was past half court, at that point little can come of a possession. I think the Kings need to make sure he works hard this offseason, if he wants to continue his climb to all star status, which is incredibly obtainable for him even at his young age.

by MichaelMack on Apr 4, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Far be it from me to defend him

Because I was actually more concerned about attitude earlier in the season – but check the stats:

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/minutes/sort/avgMinutes

Our 20 year-old rookie is 18th in the entire league (and 1st among rookies) in minutes per game. Combine that with the fact that he’s coming off a concussion suffered just two weeks ago.

Maybe we should cut him a bit of slack right now.

I've got squirrels in my pants!

by otis29 on Apr 4, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe you should go blow it our your bunghole.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 4, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

blow it out^

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 4, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for pointing it out Otis

and my comeback would be that he’s been doing this all season. It’s not something that barely started this past couple weeks. I’ve been mentioning this for a while and it was just really bad yesterday night so I had to say something.

That being said, I’m not going to crucify him for this in his first year. Like I said, I hope this changes and I see less of it next year.

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Apr 5, 2010 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I noticed it on the telecast

He almost seemed to be mailing it in.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Apr 5, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

No GBU today

It’s delayed a day because of the Easter holiday. I hope you guys all have a great Easter, whether you celebrate or not, and I’ll see you all tomorrow.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Apr 4, 2010 12:30 PM PDT reply actions  

No GBU because of Easter?

Aykis = soft

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Apr 4, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

How are you supposed to spread your propaganda without it?

GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel

by iashwash on Apr 4, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I hear he's got a mouthpiece for sale....

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 4, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

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