Out of Nowhere, Kings Defense Improves
It is assumed, for several reasons, that the Kings are a good offensive team dragged down by their poor defense. Usually, this is true. For much of this season, that was true. Sacramento actually sat around the top 10 in offense during that surprising stretch of success before the New Year. The defense at that point hovered around the bottom five of the league.
The offensive shine wore off, both once Kevin Martin returned and after he was traded. The Kings are now a mediocre offensive squad, just 21st in the league, stuck with Philadelphia and Detroit, hardly efficient units. While the team's offensive rebounding remains great -- seventh in the NBA, taking 27.8 percent of all offensive rebound opportunities -- the shooting is poor (20th in the league, .490 eFG), the turnovers too frequent (7th most, 13.8 of possessions end in turnover) and, surprisingly, the free throws too infrequent (25th after being top 10 most of the season).
But something else happened as the offense fell off: the defense actually improved. And now, the Kings' defense actually rates as better than its offense, if only slightly.
The Kings rank 20th in the league in defense, up from 27th at the trade deadline. This is still bad, of course. Mediocre. Sacramento ranks 18th in shot defense, no better than 20th in the other three defensive factors (turnovers, defensive rebounding, fouls committed). But the team has improved, and the progression is actually visible.
That's the team's cumulative Defensive Rating over time. Lower is better -- the measure describes how many points per 100 possessions your opponents score. Obviously, such measures are volatile early in the season when one good or bad game can really throw the season average around. As you add games, single-game changes are more muted. But the trends still pop out, and since about February 26 -- the date of the infamous Chest Bump between Paul Westphal and Spencer Hawes, almost two weeks after Martin was traded for Carl Landry and a week after Beno Udrih became the full-time starter next to Tyreke Evans -- the defense has improved.
Is it Hawes? The improvement began when Hawes re-entered the starting five, and seems to have disappeared once Hawes left the rotation due to injury a few games back. Is it the absence of Martin? Doesn't that imply, then, that Beno is a better defender than Garcia? Isn't that the most insane question you've ever read? Aren't you laughing hysterically right now? Is Landry a better defender than we assume? Did Donte Greene fix things, only for Andres Nocioni's return to the starting line-up to mess things up? Is it just dumb luck, or statistical noise?
It's hard to assess, impossible for me. My heart wants to credit Hawes and Greene. But Greene was a starter when Martin returned, and -- unless Martin's defense introduced fog to the raw numbers -- the Kings defense was no better during that stretch than at any other point. Hawes played a lot prior to Feb. 26, as well -- his minutes were just inconsistent. Did an assurance of a larger role really matter that much?
We won't likely see any sort of answer any time soon. The team is young -- Greene is 22, Hawes still 21, potentially the best defender of the bunch, Evans, just 20 -- and the coaching staff is still working hard to get the results it desires. I still believe a frontcourt defender will be necessary at some point, but we'll see.
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Evans is 20?
Did you check his ID?
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Apr 6, 2010 6:43 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
i tried to but
his mouthpiece prevented him from getting to his wallet
"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes
I keep hearing about this 20! What is it?
I assumed it was ppg but I must be mistaken or we would all saying 19.9 now,
Color me confused.
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
Did you know
He is averaging 20-5-5? Did you also know only 3 other rookies have accomplished this, Lebron James, Michael Jordan, & Oscar Robertson?
I love beating dead horses.
No I didn't know that.
But I have no idea who LeBron, Michael or Oscar are either. Probably real nice guys though.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Just as long as the Count doesn't pimp the Cookie Monstah, I'll be okay.
What good is a kids show if it doesn’t have a cookie fiend?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Speaking of the Count
This is the best video ever of the Count and one of the best on Youtube.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Cookies?
I thought that fool was a drug addict.
“cookie cookie cookie”
What kind of cookies you be eating man?
The bad kind.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That is a surprising turn of events.
Who would have thought that the defense would rate better than the offense?
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I'm not too surprised
I think the defense has been so bad for so long that the offense has looked good in comparison – the truth being that both have been pretty abysmal.
I've got squirrels in my pants!
The offense wasn't always so abysmal this season.
Sacramento actually sat around the top 10 in offense during that surprising stretch of success before the New Year.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Yep - Ziller didn't detail out how we were "top 10"
Not sure if that was strictly points scored, or more advanced analysis? However, coming into the season, there were quite a few of us that felt the offense was almost as big of a problem as the defense.
I've got squirrels in my pants!
the offensive "decline"
is simply because we have no consistent shooters any more (my apologies to Beno) and no one who seems to be able to earn nor convert free throws.
Martin made our offense better (or appear better, Otis I’ll leave the interpretation to the individual) because of his FT% and the amount of time he got to the line.
This is what i was afraid of if we got rid of him. I know he wasn’t performing well post-injury but i can’t imagine he would shoot that poorly forever. Now we have teams playing 5 on 1 with Reke and no real threats outside and no one able to get to the stripe.
And is it just me or is Landry not as advertised? I really like his game, but he bangs as much as me (and I’ve been married for 14 years…)
"every once in a while a kernel of truth...uhh... corn is revealed in my usual pile of poop" - betweentheeyes
How can you talk about great team defense and not mention Chapu?
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
Easy because Chapu doesn't mix with good team defense.
Maybe it is just me, but your Chapu thing is beginning to get annoying.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
come on
You know STR wouldn’t be the same without Chapu expressing his man love and Pookie ripping someone
"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"
Sammyp831.
by SavageBeast on Apr 6, 2010 9:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Who's Pookey?
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
by Slam_Dunk on Apr 6, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's PookEY thank you very much.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
changing it from ie to y is a term of endearment
What the hell was I thinking!? Pookeyyyyyyyyy.
"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"
Sammyp831.
by SavageBeast on Apr 7, 2010 3:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm going to Pritchslap you if you keep toying with my emotions SB.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Welcome back btw.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
thanks
On the road too dang much. But following with my droid.
"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"
Sammyp831.
by SavageBeast on Apr 8, 2010 12:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
No other way to follow StR SB.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I can't fawn over a player like everyone fawns over Tyreke.
Just because I’m in the minority doesn’t mean I’m not correct.
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
Exactly Chapu
there are twenty posts about how Tyreke’s mouthgaurd made him play poorly against PDX, even a poster saying that Marcus Camby’s length is difficult to play against when you are a rookie (I guess next year it wont be?), you can go ahead and cheer for Chapu all you want.
How can I post about Chapu's weaknesses when he has none?
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
Problem is - he doesn't have any strengths either, unless you count throwing the ball toward the basket and missing as a strength.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
by Slam_Dunk on Apr 6, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're just a classic Chapu hater
This blog is filled with them.
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
by chapuforyou on Apr 6, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
chapuforyou is basically the best.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Chapu has but one weakness
and that is that he can’t seem to convince PW that he is the best player since Jordan. I think this is because PW is NaC.
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
Not a Chapu?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Tyreke's mouthguard is important information.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
technically
i must admit i liked your info about the specifics of the mouth piece (by the way, sorry for dropping the ball and not responding more on that issue. i just figured we both exhausted how we felt about the whole mouth piece thing)
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on Apr 6, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
No problem.
I have no way of knowing whether Tyreke’s mouthguard is significantly impacting his current performance. I just wanted to express my concern that it might be.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
You're wrong!
Being in the minority makes you wrong on here. Don’t you know this is a group-think zone?
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
agreed!!!!!
"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"
Sammyp831.
by SavageBeast on Apr 7, 2010 3:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I personally like GroupThink
It gives me a chance to not think and let others do it for me. Lazy people embrace GroupThink. I’m surprised it’s not caught on every aspect of our lives.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
in every aspect^
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If I had to guess, I would bet that you are first row on the right

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If only you could dedicate to making people smarter in the world as you have at StR 214.....
…you wouldn’t need money to live. People would gladly get out of your way. LOL
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I didn't mention Pookey.
I can live without the player obsession. Chapuforyou would be better served with a fan club.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Reply fail - to Savage Beast
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Dude, chapuforyou is harmless hilarity, and you are the one getting annoying now.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
FYI - I am not a dude. I am a chick.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Is this really out of NO WHERE?
I mean that is a bit of a stretch. We have watched PW pull players who aren’t defending well and replace them with less offensive-minded defenders.
PW has been hammering DEFENSE into this team from the beginning of the season and finally we are seeing some results. Why is that and why can’t we point at one player…?
The reason you can’t point at any individual, and why PW has been F’ed up in his approach, is because the best defense for this team is just that TEAM defense.
We are starting to see more of a set rotation of players who can finally start jelling and knowing how they will rotate and respond defensively.
There was no team defense early on because players were in different positions and had no set roles. Chaos was supreme and rotations destructive to any sort of learning to play team defense. There was no ability to come together cohesively as a team and PW was basically shooting himself in the foot.
Now that we have set rotations and roles for players the guys are starting to figure out how to rotate and play as a team, defensively.
Out of no where? Not so much.
by MustangMBS on Apr 6, 2010 11:57 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Bravo, you nailed it. Rec'd
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
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Great graph TZ
I too have noticed this very thing myself, and wondered how to capture it. I no longer wonder.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Could it have something to do with Carl coming in from a team that has historically played good team D
not so much this season, but I’d chalk that up to injuries. So Carl comes in, quickly buys into PW’s plan, and along with the stuff ‘Stang mentioned, it’s starting to gel. Go sign in any case. Hope it carries over to next season, and improvement continues.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

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