Advanced Stats - Donte 4th Most Improved Player

Interesting thread at APBR Metrics board. Ranks most improved players according to eWins. JT was #7 in November (if you go back to page 1). Donte is now #4 as we near the end of the season (scroll to bottom of page). I know it's easy to get down on some of our young guys because our expectations get so high when they have oscillate between amazing and dunderheaded, but it's still nice to see validation of their progress and remind ourselves how they are progressing.

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Great find, thank you

Perspective is hard to come by, especially when we’re living game to game and most of them are losses.

by lead_pipe on Apr 10, 2010 12:47 AM PDT reply actions

Thanks for the link

I’m still a Donté skeptic, but the kid has really worked hard this season. Good to see that work has paid off.

As an aside, it would be interesting to see a list of all players, or a team-by-team list.

I've got squirrels in my pants!

by otis29 on Apr 10, 2010 6:32 AM PDT reply actions

All I wanted this year was for Donte to sneak into the back end of the rotation by the end of the year.
Now I’m disappointed when he doesn’t give 25 good minutes.

I’m not sure how defense is accounted for, but I would think he’s the type of player who’s improvement (outside of sucking horribly last year) would be difficult to measure. The fact that his growth still shows up on those metrics means he really has improved so much.

Note the lack of a hyphen.
Soon to be adopted father of (insert obscure prospect unlikely to reach AA)

by DesertFox on Apr 10, 2010 7:55 AM PDT reply actions

From my best understanding of eWins

it does factor in defense. It’s not a mostly offensive statistic like PER.

I agree with you too, I was hoping for some improvement, have seen it, but get discouraged when Donte disappears for 2-3 games in a row. So I was actually pretty shocked and surprised when I saw he had the 4th biggest improvement of any player in the league so far this year.

I’m hoping with our team improving and Reke setting the example, all the guys start training harder in the off-season and Donte can continue to build on this.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Apr 10, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions

but did anyone check his I.D. ?

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Apr 10, 2010 8:02 AM PDT reply actions

this is a nice find

Remember, per Hollinger metrics Donte was the 65th out of 65 PF’s last year. In his write up Hollinger comments just how low, low is.

This shows that most important to the development of Greene he has graduated from Doratio to Donte. He has improved. Progress no matter how fast or slow is progress. The talk can shift from IF he can make to when will he make it. Hard work, listening to the coaches/teachers and ego reformation are all difficult maneuvers for any of us. Some of his other equally aged teammates should take note. /hat tip to you Donte Greene.

by betweentheeyes on Apr 10, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions

true

he was one of the worst players in the league last year so he could only improve

by morecasspi on Apr 10, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions

no he could have stayed the same (which is the same as getting worse) or digressed

Quincy Douby got better but there was no significance to his improvement. Donte bettered that. He added more to his game and it meant something. He brought more to the court. He has to continue to do that but it is a process and he has shown that he has the ability to be a player worth developing.

by betweentheeyes on Apr 11, 2010 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions

their is a difference in their 1st seasons

Doubys per was 9 his rookie year, where as Dontes was a horrendous 5. Donte improved to a per of 11.6 this season and Douby had a per of 9.7 in his second seasons. if Douby was that bad to begin with (per of 5) we would have been talking about Douby’s great improvments in his second season a few years ago.

by morecasspi on Apr 11, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm very happy for Donte

He’s one of my favorite players on this team and I’m happy he’s proving some people wrong. He’s still has A LOT of work to do, but I don’t see any signs that he’s not going to get better. Keep it up Buckets!

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Apr 10, 2010 3:22 PM PDT reply actions