The Kings Are Alright
by Tom Ziller on May 18, 2010 6:24 PM PDT
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PrintFool me once, shame on ... ... shame on you. Fool me -- You can't get fooled again.
-- President George W. Bush
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We wailed when the Kings missed out on the top pick last year, and many wail tonight. I'm not wailing. Not just because the Kings ended up with the Rookie of the Year with the No. 4 pick this season, not just because the closest contenders for that honor were picked No. 7 and No. 10. I'm not wailing just because Michael Jordan was a No. 3 pick, or because Dwyane Wade went No. 5, or because Brandon Roy went No. 6 in a bad draft year, or because Steve Nash went in the middle of the first round.
I'm not wailing because the Kings are alright, and will be alright. The Wizards are a little more alright as of tonight, but that's OK. The Lakers never won the draft lottery in the late 90s or Oughts. The Celtics didn't win the lottery. The Spurs won one lottery a decade and a half ago. The Pistons didn't win a lottery, and the two top-5 picks they have this century were named Rodney White and Darko Milicic.
All the championship teams since 1999 have two homegrown No. 1 picks between them: David Robinson and Tim Duncan. It's not a requirement for excellence. Far from it.
This will be a great month for the Kings, a great summer and a great future. Breathe, and look forward.
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Like I said
We needed Ziller to pat us on the back and say everything will be fine.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Your like my mother
when my dick was accidentally cut off, she said not to worry because I could live my life without it.
But, DAMN IT, I still wanted it.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
by HighTops on May 18, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Hahahahahahaha
That’s awesome HT.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That took a lot of balls for you to say that!
No castration complex.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Well, it sounds like he still has those.
For all the good they do him now.
Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Vonnegut
by Ice_9ine on May 18, 2010 10:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yea, but imagine calling up the Prosthese store and ordering any size you want.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
I don't want to think about it.
I am so sorry for your loss, HT.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
Fuck Peaches.
"Batting 4th and doing the catching, says here this guy weighs 210 pounds...I'm not buyin it! It's Brian McCann."
by Scott Coleman on May 18, 2010 6:26 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 4 recs
Fuck mvhsbbal
Put Tyreke Evans in my bed, and mail me the fine.
by Soft_Peaches on May 18, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
haha. bite me.
or actually…don’t. I’ve heard you talk about Reke and I’m afraid you might cum come onto me.
"Batting 4th and doing the catching, says here this guy weighs 210 pounds...I'm not buyin it! It's Brian McCann."
by Scott Coleman on May 18, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
He's going to pick JT's younger brother isn't he?
Tanking? I don't know what you're talking about, tanking. I'm just losing more efficiently.
Piss and moan
And pray for Cousins to drop to us and then not take him, just like RR last year.
Let’s hope for a similar outcome.
by Mityt on May 18, 2010 6:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You mean Cousins dropping and us taking Monroe?
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
If he dominates like Reke did in workouts
Then yes.
However, I think we all trust GP and his eventual decision.
by Mityt on May 18, 2010 6:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Draft combine tomorrow and Thursday
Then we’ll know height/weight/suspect jumping numbers
Ah, my favorite time of year
Can't wait for Dalt's analysis
He usually waits till after Combine.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Thateaugeeeeee!!!!!
Just kidding.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I prefer to remember it for
“But with that passing mixed with his scoring ability, Curry could "just flat out play" himself into a pretty incredible pick & roll point guard. And then give up ten thousand points on the other end. This guy is destined to play for Mike D’Antoni or Don Nelson.”
and
“there’s something about Flynn’s inability to really stand out in any one or two facets of the game that makes me feel like he’s destined to disappoint relative to where he’ll be chosen. "
and
“Evans has some serious talent with the ball, he’s got crazy long arms, and he’s athletic enough that I think he’s got the best chance at stardom out of this class of shooting guards.”
and
“[Harden] will give you some good minutes, but you’re going to be crying in a few years if you think he’s going to be a star.”
and
[re: Jordan Hill]: “Yawn.”
BUT THAT’S JUST ME.
by nbrans on May 18, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thateugeeeeee!!!!
Just messing with you.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
It's Coming
Now with the #5 pick, I will have to do a bit more of research on the prospects in that range. This draft class is shaping up to be filled with a bunch of solid but un-star-level players. Should be someone at #5 to grab that could be a definite upgrade in the future.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
Is that what Favors projects as?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Hope so!That'd be fine with me...
Gotta Love Your Sacramento Kings!!My Song!...
When they loose?not feelin' the love so much(ich mir..oy vey!)
by Rhondda Nunes on May 18, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Before the Combine
Favors looks to be a solid starter (score of 93) and potential all-star at this point. With his athleticism he could easily be better than that. He is a raw but has tons of upside. I don’t think Favors will be available at #5 though.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
Me either.
And that seems fair.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
So did Shelden Williams.
We can play this game all day.
by Josh L on May 18, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Mr. Candice Parker
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
This is like the after-party to the pity-party.
I just didn’t realize we needed an excuse to keep drinking.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
You don't need an excuse to drink.
You just need ID.
Tanking? I don't know what you're talking about, tanking. I'm just losing more efficiently.
This is a major disappointment and I will tell you why.
My fear is that this blow, if it remains the blow we think it is today will set the franchise back because this disappointment will lead to a second disappointment in free agency. I’m not totally sold that the Maloofs intended to make a serious run at a major player but if John Wall was to throw on a Kings jersey then I think it would have been a whole lot easier. Now I believe that the Kings will stand pat, drop a little cash here and there and keep the rest in reserve.
The Kings still have an outside shot at Cousins but I’m just not sold that any of the other 5-10 really help this team a whole lot in the near future. New Jersey is the lynch pin- if they believe that Favors is a better fit to play alongside Lopez then I think Minny passes on Cousins and takes Johnson, leaving Cousins for the Kings. I guess the Kings can always trade up, maybe even take on some salary from one of the top four teams but this is such a bummer of a day that I am not ready to look into all of this stuff yet.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
who did you think we were really gonna be able to get in FA anyway?
Bosh? Wade? yeah okay…it was always most likely that if we were gonna get a guy it’d be someone like Johnson.
John Wall is a draw- if you draft him, they will come.
The Kings will still be on a couple of players minds. Really, it is Chicago and the Kings who have the most complete team out of the max money teams. I think Wall or Turner would have been enough to entice one of the bigs if the Maloofs entered the market.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
what bigs?
I count Bosh and Lee and not much else, I’m not sold on Boozer or Amare…we aren’t gonna get Bosh and we still have as much chance at Lee as we did before. Honestly we’re probably gonna draft a big at 5 since about 90% of the players in this years draft seem to be over 6-10,
You don't have to be sold.
In 8 seasons, Amaré has 5 all-star game appearance, 1 first team all-nba awards and 3- 2nd team all-nba awards. For his career, he has averages of 21.4 and 8.9 rebounds and he is one of the most efficient scorers in the NBA.
Boozer is a 2 time all-star, has finished in the top 5 in defensive rebounding 4 times and top 8 in total rebounding 4 times. He has career averages of 17.2 points and 10.2 rebounds.
These players have proven to NBA executives, fellow NBAers and all-star voters that they are damn good players. Whether you are sold on them or not, they both are better players at their position than any current Sacramento King.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
by jjham15 on May 18, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
fair points
I’m not saying they aren’t good players or even maybe great players in Amare’s case, (though how much of that is playing with Nash remains to be seen) but Boozers past injury history makes me pause and Amare isn’t coming through that door either when he could go to Miami or New York.
My original point Lotus...
was that the Kings have a solid base team with players under contract at every position. That is not the case for Miami, New York, New Jersey, even OKC and Memphis have holes. Both the Kings and the Bulls can boast a young nucleus but the Kings can also boast a top 5 pick and 20+ million in cash. If I’, a FA and I look at this logically, the Kings have to be near the top of any destination list just in supporting cast alone. Also, New Jersey, Chicago and possibly Miami will have new coaches and a new system this year. Don;t sell Sactown short so quickly.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
by jjham15 on May 18, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
the not so baby Bulls have a lot of cash
and the fact that there isn’t an entrenched coach in NJ or Chicago (I’m pretty convinced Riley will end up coaching in Miami one way or another) might be seen as a positive for a FA especially when a guy like Phil Jackson could be out there. I think the draw of a town like New York, Miami, Chicago and even New Jersey/Brooklyn is a big thing that Sacramento simply can’t overcome. Sure some players are going to see that the Kings are the only game in town and they’ll be treated like demigods by the local populace, but most aren’t going to see it that way. Maybe when we get the new arena. If we get the new arena.
Douchebag
Riley will only come back to coach once he’s convinced that the coach in place has done all of the hard work in making a good team. He did it to SVG, and he’ll do it again.
If only hair product caused cancer…
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on May 18, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
I’m just sure it’s going to happen, honestly I would never take a coaching job with Riley sitting over me knowing he’s going to axe me as soon as i get that thing put together.
Yeah
FUCK that guy. After the SVG thing i lost all respect for Riley.
Tommy Kelly's ass won us that game against Denver!
and after SVG had his 20th freak out on the bech
I lost all respect for him as well
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
He will have to assemble what ever team he coaches.
I don’t like the way he handled the SVG situation but he may still be a draw.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
Spoelstra will get another job.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If only hair product caused cancer…
gotta love the bitterness
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Phil isn't going anywhere.
Certainly Sacramento does not have the culture that some of the bigger cities have but talent has to part of the equation. Rarely does a big free agent chance cash to a horrible team with no prospect of getting better. The Kings need a few more pieces but they are a pretty playoff ready team if you add a top 5 pick and top tier FA. Miami, New York, NJ? Not so much.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
by jjham15 on May 18, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Certainly we have talent
And I think that means something. Playing with the RoY means something, being the big fish in a small pond means something, being maybe 20 wins from the playoffs and having those 20 wins within sight means something, I’m just not sure that all that something translates to Chris Bosh or Amare Stoudamire as opposed to Joe Johnson or Rudy Gay.
Agreed
Honestly, I was going to write a post about those two. I wasn’t sold on either of them, and the intent was going to be why they would be bad FA signings. But when I did my research, I changed my mind. They’ve both been excellent and either would be a great addition to the team. The only concern I would have would be giving either guy a max deal.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on May 18, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ham = WAZiller?
Kidding bro, point taken.
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
I prefer WaZilly.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
Oh, Nets definitely take Favors
unless he really, really stinks it up in workouts or combine. He’s a great, great fit with Lopez. The Nets might be disappointed they didn’t gete #1, but they’ll be fine. Minny is interesting.
It comes down to fit.
And only the Nets can make that decision.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
at 5
I see The Kings getting Cousins… the t-Wolves need Wesley Johnson
I hate Aminu and Wes Johnson.
All I wanted was top 4. I am supremely pissed.
by mayfieldcol on May 18, 2010 7:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Ziller's snap mock draft
Throws a wrench in everyones mocks so far by having Philly take Favors at 2, and Nets take Turner at 3. Wolves take Johnson, Kings take Cousins.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Ziller is way higher on Davis than I am
wayyyyyy higher…
actually curious
why no love for davis? I am not much of a college person but from what I’ve seen I really like him
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I am fearing "The Wrath of Khan".
That dude has to be pissed about the Evans deal last year. I haven’t heard him make this statement but I have to believe that he intended to run Johnny Flynn and Tyreke Evans side by side last year.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
After
seeing what happened last year, I refuse to waste the energy on anger. This is a very deep draft (supposedly), I know Petrie will get someone who will be good. You always wanna win the lottery, but they still are in a great spot.
Of Course
The Kings will be alright, and this is the healthy attitude to take. But you are fooling yourself to say the climb to the top of mountain of respectability, legitimacy, contention, does not become that much more difficult when the lotto ball gods screw you over two years running.
Certainly a good to all star level player can be had at #5. But much of your decision is made for you when teams ahead of you dictate your options. Last year, we were -3 (worst team knocked back 3 spots), and this year we are -2 (3rd worst knocked back two spots).
Just sucks royally!!!
This is a double whammy too because winning the top spot, even #2 or #3, opens up all sorts of trade possibilities and makes SAC a slightly more attractive FA destination. And there is also the boost to ticket sales and fan enthusiasm and interest if a top pick could have been secured.
This is not pessimism, this is reality. And reality is the Kings are climbing the same arduous mountain as before after today, only with a pair of ankle weights locked in place.
By the way, Greg Monroe and Wes Johnson look like role players to me. Pass and pass.
by bench_blob on May 18, 2010 7:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't disagree with this either
Ask the Grizzlies and T-Wolves how losing the lottery every year has worked out.
by bignerd on May 18, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ths Kings have a hard road back to respectability??
No way!!!!!
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
And reality is the Kings are climbing the same arduous mountain as before after today, only with a pair of ankle weights locked in place.
nope not pessimism at all
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Rodney White was picked 9th in 2001.
Just thought I’d point that out. You’re right about it being okay. The Kings have talent and need more of it.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
you're wrong Pook!!
WE DIDN’T GET THE #1 PICK!!!! WE’RE SOOOO F’D!!! WHY EVEN BOTHER SUITING UP NEXT YEAR?? I HATE DAVID STERN!! GUARANTEED 10 WINS NEXT YEAR!!! Waaaaahhhhhhaaaaaa.
I'm wrong as usual. :)
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Realistically though...
Only Evans and Landry are starting playoff quality… and even Landry should be a bench player because of his size. I’m sick of Jason Thompson… he’s too erratic and he has the mentality of a 6th grader. Beno is great but should back up Evans. Casspi was great for 20 games and then nothing. Hawes is ladylike. McGuire is bad. Nocioni is a disgruntled ass. Udoka is a 3rd string defensive player. May is terrible. Brockman is good for 7 minutes a game. Greene may be good in 6 years.
This roster is actually piss poor, so anyone with star potential will make my day.
Landry wasn't "starting playoff quality" for the Rockets.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
Give Casspi a offseason to get into NBA shape
You’re gonna see a much different player next year wearing #18
how hung over are you today?
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
In the near future...
Stern: Hey Geoff, bummer about that lottery. So, who do you like at #5?
Petrie: Let’s see, I have it written down on a piece of paper in my pocket…
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on May 18, 2010 8:05 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
So Cousins then?
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I love me some JJ Reddick
but he’s a restricted FA he can be had without trading a draft pick.
Sactown Royalty has a built-in script that detects ridiculous trade proposals and prevents them from showing up correctly
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
by JediLeroy on May 18, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Xavier Henry
wasn’t there a king named Xavier?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z8-n68XmSI
KINGS WILL BE 10-11 CHAMPIONS
I totally can see that too.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Why is Patrick Patterson so high in the draft?
by Smooth Criminal on May 18, 2010 8:48 PM PDT reply actions
I think people are looking at him as a potential MIllsap-type
I don’t think he has that kind of strength, but he diversified his offensive game this season – he can shoot, post up, etc. I worry that he’s not strong enough to work that well as an undersized PF, but I could see him kind of working like Udonis Haslelm
Patterson isn't nearly good enough of a rebounder or shotblocker to be a Millsap type
DX has the comparison on the nose: Landry.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Is he as good in the post as Landry though?
I haven’t been able to watch much college bball this year much. Can he be as good?
by Smooth Criminal on May 18, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
Athletic, and a good shooter to boot. He’ll probably be one of the better impact rookies next year depending on the situation he lands in.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Would you take Patterson over Wesley Johnson if you're the Clippers?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Hell no.
Gordon, Johnson and Griffin? Thats athleticism up the yin-yang.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
they need an SF, I think they take Aminu
by VenomySnicket on May 18, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Aminu won't be there at 8.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Aminu won't be available at 8.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Mushroom Mushroom. :)
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Mwahahahaahahahahaahadger...:)
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Mushroom Mushroom?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
? moorhsuM moorhsuM
REALLY?
Like I'm gonna change my signature
C MON!
by chenp22 on May 20, 2010 3:16 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
only nbrans could make a prospect sound like an investor
I don’t think he has that kind of strength, but he diversified his offensive game this season
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
nbadraft.net sees the kings taking monroe at 5th pick
he sounds a lot chris webber in a way. which is making me think petrie might actually take him over cousins or favors if they fall to us. is it likely though?
by Smooth Criminal on May 18, 2010 9:01 PM PDT reply actions
Collegiate Monroe is more Josh McRoberts than Chris Webber, in my opinion
But I have been known to be 100% wrong.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
Givony doesn't like him much either.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh god hell no.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'd rather reach for Ekpe Udoh at that point.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Right before we collectively reach for a gun
and a suicide hotline.
Tanking? I don't know what you're talking about, tanking. I'm just losing more efficiently.
Not happening. I like Udoh.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
i would be very unhappy with Monroe
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually think he's going to be really good.
But not the tough, athletic kind of big that you (or I for that matter) want.
No doubt.
Givony said that Minnesota has to hope that Favors drops to them. I think the Nets might have to consider that as well. Philly might surprise everyone and take Favors.
I’ve been saying Favors is a hot commodity for a long time, and I honestly believe that. But, oh well. Such is life.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
yeah, and I think Cousins is more like Michael Beasley
I could be wrong, though.
Perhaps
Cole Aldrich. Future All-Star Center for the Sacramento Kings. At the least, the next Joe Klein. Or maybe Bill Wennington.
by MichaelMack on May 18, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
How so?
He has a position, his skills translate to the NBA and his attitude problems were arguing with his coach and elbowing another player (fire, not passiveness).
by SPTSJUNKIE on May 18, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
when there are so many quiet and hushed references to someone having an attitude problem
it is generally over much bigger things than arguing with a coach or elbowing someone. To be honest I wouldn’t be shocked if there were some serious substance abuse issues in his past.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions
It may be nothing more than a rumor.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
I'm still big on Monroe
The kid has great hands and finishes! He has great court vision and passing ability. No, he’s not Spencer Hawes. The difference between him and Hawes is that Monroe actually goes after balls on shot attempts and doesn’t shy away from the post.
…and I really don’t care what these sports analysts think. They’ve been proven wrong time and time again. Mock drafts don’t = talent.
Question
why did the warriors being picked at six result in the wizards and sixers automatically being in the top 3?
by Mike_is_awesome on May 18, 2010 9:08 PM PDT reply actions
because they were in the 5 and 6 slot, and 2 teams had to leap the W's
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--Daisy Owl
and they only draw #s for the top 3 spots
So, the only way to move up is to land in the top 3.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on May 18, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Why
Why did two teams have to leap them?
by Mike_is_awesome on May 18, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Because
they had the 4th worst record. So if only one team had jumped over them, they would have had the #5 spot by defaul (since only the top 3 picks are done lottery style). So once they were at 6, it meant two teams who had worse odds had jumped into the top 3.
The Warriors were in the 4 slot and the Wiz/Sixers were in the 5-6 slots and moved in the top 3.
Teams can only move into the top 3 picks. Everybody moves down however many slots teams below them pick.
The Wolves were the 2nd worst record, and 2 teams out of the top 3 moved into the top 3 of the lottery. Why Wolves finished 4th.
The Kings were the 3rd worst record, and the 2 teams out of the top 3 moved into the top 3 of the lottery. Why Kings finished 5th.
Hope this explains it.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Nope
So if the kings were picked fifth the top 3 would be warriors wizards sixers? Is that what you are saying?
by Mike_is_awesome on May 18, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I meant 6th
Kings instead of warriors were drawn
by Mike_is_awesome on May 18, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
The warriors were not drawn
neither were the Kings. Only Was, Phi and NJ were drawn.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on May 18, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
They only pick the top 3
then every other team is in the order of finish. The only way to move up is to move all the way up to the top 3.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on May 18, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
So when the Warriors showed up
before Was and Phi we knew both of those teams moved up. And you can only move up into the top 3.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on May 18, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Ohhh
Okay I got it. Sorry for being an idiot.
by Mike_is_awesome on May 18, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
No worries
it’s a bit confusing the first time you really pay attention to it.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on May 18, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Okay let me re explain it
If the Nets Wolves & the Kings had been in the top 3 slots (regardless of order), nobody else would have moved up. It would have gone Warriors, Wiz, Sixers, Pistons, Clippers, Jazz, Pacers, Hornets, Grizz, Raps and Rox.
Do you see it now?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yea
I didn’t know they only draw the top 3 that clears everything up
by Mike_is_awesome on May 18, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep it often does.
This isn’t like how they used to do it where they drew all 7 picks. I like this system and it works. It’s a clear lottery.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It only works if we win.
5th pick is the 1st 2nd 3rd 4th loser.
Tanking? I don't know what you're talking about, tanking. I'm just losing more efficiently.
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by bignerd on May 18, 2010 10:09 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Goddamit.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
You're not that upset. Get over it.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I'm a bit upset.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Well get over it.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Quick Photoshop
But this is my best case scenario at 5.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
by Aykis16 on May 18, 2010 10:14 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah the UK shorts are hard to take out of that picture.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Didn't even bother.
Jersey was hard enough and I didn’t bother to add the stripes on the side.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
How did you curve the Sacramento?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Ripped it off a jersey.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Nice.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Look at those arms
Those arms were made to bring pain to many things.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on May 18, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
& hopefully that would include players of the opposing team if he ends up a King....
Gotta Love Your Sacramento Kings!!My Song!...
When they loose?not feelin' the love so much(ich mir..oy vey!)
by Rhondda Nunes on May 18, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
strippers?
i kid i kid
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
that shirt looks mighty tight on the man boobs
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Look at that smile...
It is meant to charm his teammates the the locker room. I sure hope we get him. (Sigh)
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
BS
I need Ziller to tell me it’s going to be “alright” like a need a sharp stick stuck in my eye. Besides, you can’t make the saying “we’re going to be alright” sound postive. It sounds shitty. “Alright” to me equals something between mediocre and shitty. We didn’t want the #1 pick, but was also didn’t want number freakin 5! It ain’t going to be alright. “The Celtics didn’t win the lottery…” Hahaha. What a profound statement.
Ailene Voisin is wack and hearts Rubio
You're so full of shit.
How do you know something is so awful before the pick is made?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
No one is
telling you that you can’t shove a sharp stick in your eye, too.
by Tom Ziller on May 19, 2010 4:31 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
No no
I’m telling him to do that. (I have a hard time believing Bamboooozled is a female.)
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
You know that saying that you should go with your first instinct/decision/pick...
I’m going back to my origianal 6 for my board…
1. Wall
2. Johnson
3. Favors
4. Whiteside
5. Turner
6. George
Why am I going back? BPA theory (I shouldn’t be thinking about the lack of 2011 bigs prospects) and giving Bilas the benefit of a doubt.
by getPGwithbounce on May 18, 2010 11:49 PM PDT reply actions
I can see Johnson in a Kings jersey
by getPGwithbounce on May 18, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd say I can see a Kings jersey with Johnson in it,
but we aren’t going to be trading for Greg Oden anytime soon.
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by CaliforniaJag on May 19, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Holy fuck
we failed hard again at the lottery!
Let’s hope Khan screw up this draft thing again and lets Cousins falls to us. Out of the top 4 players I don’t see anyone worth starting in the league.
"Even when I’m old and grey, I won’t be able to play it, but I’ll still love the game." — Michael Jordan
Go Kings!
Im still bitter!
This happened WAAAAAAAAAY to closely to us losing Kayte Christensen. Im gonna be bent for a while. BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
I was uncool before it was cool
It is what it is.
I am over my disappointment. It just doesn’t do any good to be upset. There is a possibility that Cousins will drop to 5 and I think that Petrie would probably select him. If that doesn’t happen, then it sounds like Petrie has a few other prospects for the 5 spot up his sleeve. At this point, I am just curious how this will pan out next month at the draft.
In the meantime, the threads are going to be filled with video mixers, personal opinions, and arguments about a bunch of little-known prospects. Should be interesting.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
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