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A Comment on Ailene Voisin and 'Getting Over It'

In today's Sacramento Bee, the only basketball columnist at the city's only daily newspaper tells fans bemoaning the replacement of sideline reporter Kayte Christensen with veteran talking head Jim Gray to, ahem, "get over it." She, Ailene Voisin, suggests all backlash against the Gray hiring stems from the fact that fans liked the way Kayte looks. Voisin insists it is "male fans" who are upset, that "tissues should have been distributed at ARCO Arena to mop up all the drool," and that professional skills are supposed to be the issue (as if fans upset with the switch have no opinion on the professional skills involved).

If Voisin really believes the fans care about Kayte's looks and not her professional skills, I'd advise her to read all about the backlash when the fetching but overmatched Angela Tsai was let go by the Kings. Oh wait, there was no backlash, because few thought Tsai did good work. So, wait a minute ... if Kayte is handsome and there's a backlash regarding her exit, and if Angela is handsome and there was no backlash regarding her exit, and if Kayte was talented but Angela perhaps wasn't ... hmm ... I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

There are myriad things wrong with Voisin's piggish, accusatory, conceited and blatantly ridiculous column. Perhaps most glaring once you get past the sexism is that Voisin touts how hard-hitting Gray will be regarding the team ("no house man with a headset," she writes) ... and then leads a discussion of Gray's career by noting his incredibly sympathetic post-Eagle interview of Kobe Bryant, Sacramento's Public Enemy No. 1, while also describing the media backlash against the unbelievable puffery that piece was. "Jim Gray is hard-hitting. ... On one of Gray's biggest assignments, the media believed Gray was too soft on his subject." Holy dissonance, Batman!

Star-divide

And of course, this absurd defense of Gray on how tough he'll be on, I don't know, Mario Elie and Donte Greene completely ignores that Kayte Christensen was pretty damn tough on the Kings back when she was doing the pre- and post-game shows with Jim Kozimor, Henry Turner and Fat Lever. No one in the Sacramento media other than Sam Amick -- Voisin included -- was as tough on Hawes as Christensen. If Voisin or anyone thinks Gray will pick up that mantle, I'd advise them not to hold their breath.

But in the spirit of cooperation, I would like to compromise with Ailene. We will "get over it" so long as Ailene promises to "get over" the following items:

 

* Larry Brown not getting an interview.

* Bill Laimbeer not getting hired.

* John Whisenant not getting hired.

* Ricky Rubio not getting drafted.

* Peja Stojakovic's smile.

* Spencer Hawes' sweaty t-shirt.

* Ricky Rubio's sinuous biceps.

Seems like a fair deal, no?

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I get the Sacramento Bee and read it every morning.

I have to say that I thought this article by Ailene, Get over it guys, Gray’s a big upgrade was bizarre, to say the least. I could say that I was shocked, but I have been growing accustomed to stranger writing from her over the past couple of years. To think that five years ago, I thought she was such a great sports writer.

A month ago I got my notice to renew my Sacramento Bee subscription. Well, I am not renewing. I take the paper primarily for the sports section. I am sorry that Sam Amick is not longer with the paper, as I think he did an outstanding job. I am disappointed with most of the articles that Ailene writes. I would not be surprised if Ailene were to lose her job with the paper. This article very well could hasten her demise.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on May 23, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I also quit getting a subscription but it was when they let Scott Howard Cooper go.

I didn’t understand letting both SHC and Marty McNeil go at the same time even if I had a very low opinion of Marty. I really liked Amick as well so him leaving under funky circumstances kind of cemented the whole deal for me. I hate the ridiculous Editors editorial column on the left by Bill Bradley or some other hack. I hate that they have censored Amick and lastly, I hate that they have continued to employ Voison who is a complete hack.

I am a community guy who professes community values. Supporting the Bee in a time of crisis would be the easy thing to do for me but not at any expense. These guys have clearly put themselves in a position to fail in a dying market. They are not fighting the good fight, they are making it easy for people like myself. I kind of think of this as the Safeway/Raleys versus Walmart debate. If you want my business, then stop making it so easy for me to walk into a Walmart. Stop with the crappy service. Stop with the self check out express with no personal contact. And stop charging me 2 or 3 times more for the same GD can of soup.

The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.

by jjham15 on May 23, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well expressed about your decision to stop your Sac Bee subscription

I have one more thought on the Jim Gray/ Kayte Christensen story. Despite what Ailene Voisin felt about the hiring of Jim Gray or the letting go of Kayte Christensen, she was irresponsible in how she characterized the fan base of Kayte. There are a lot of people, male and female, who feel a sense of loss over Kayte. Instead of validating these people and the work of Kayte, she instead chose to ridicule them. I personally felt that Ailene compromised her professionalism in how she reported this story. It was an undeserved disservice to Kayte and insulting to Kayte’s fans.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on May 23, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I totally agree.

The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.

by jjham15 on May 23, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah this is very old too.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

my exact thought

Still waiting for the Euler of basketball to play for the Kings

by morecasspi on May 23, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to disagree with that one

I remember a thing in the Sac Bee a couple years ago saying that 40% of season ticket holders for the Kings were women. So I’m pretty sure more than 5% of those who care about sports analysis are women.

"That was the most offensive thing I have seen in 20 years of teaching and that includes an elementary school production of "Hair.""

by Christina_J on May 23, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many of those 40% of women are married to men who also have season passes, and would not have those if the man didnt?

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on May 23, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

And how many of those men who are married to the 40% of women who have

season tickets would even have season tickets, if their wife didn’t?

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on May 24, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Touche’

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on May 24, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed, Ziller

I love how Ailene assumes the only reason Kings fans loved Kayte is because of her looks. While that was a positive, that’s not the sole reason why Kings liked her. She is insightful and knows the game.

In general, guys love women who love sports and know what they are talking about. There have been beauties before who were sideline reports (Jill Arrington, Lisa Guerrero) but they didn’t last long because they knew nothing about sports. Kayte knows what she’s talking about and that’s why we loved her.

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 23, 2010 1:53 PM PDT reply actions   4 recs

I saw this article

and now I remember why I don’t have a subscription to the Bee anymore. There are really few redeeming qualities to it anymore.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on May 23, 2010 1:54 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

After Kreidler left, I stopped reading the Bee.

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 23, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I read it all cuz their is an interesting point or two JJBee (that's Jason Jones--not to be confused with the StR reader JJham15 who I also call JJ) makes.

Even Voisin makes the salient point every now & again. This column was just a stupid puff piece telling us that when Jim Gray decides to fit the Kings into his schedule it will be good for us.

Uh, truthfully I don’t really care all that much. I think sideline reporting is pretty useless anyway. But that’s not Kayte’s fault she was doing a senseless job with senesless orders about her bosses. I’m sure ehe’s far more adept at breaking down the pick & roll than she is asking some person who isn’t very articulate on camera why they’re renewing their tickets.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

exaclty

i will be happy to ignore jim gray just as i did kayte. no comment on kayte, just a comment on the inanity of 20-30 second snippets during the game that tell us what we already knew.

by nogods69 on May 23, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you for distinguishing the two JJ's.

I would like to add to this:

This column was just a stupid puff piece telling us that when Jim Gray decides to fit the Kings into his schedule

How is a someone supposed to be “hard hitting” when he doesn’t do this on a full-time basis and isn’t around the team. I really hope the players shut this guy out. I have never been a fan of Grays. To me, he is the white Ahmad Rashad- both are just ball washing bastards.

I listened to Grant Napier interview Gray the other day and Grant tried to “clear the air” surrounding the Pete Rose issue. After initially feeling bad for Gray as he talked about how the hate mail has slowed and the death threats have all but stopped, he did the unspeakable in my book. He said that he really got his lunch handed to him in the media for asking Rose the question he did because people didn’t think it was the “appropriate place” to put Rose on the spot. Gray said that he thinks the public sentiment has changed towards him in his opinion because Pete finally came out and admitted everything in his book. This answer fully spoke to his incompetence as a human being. Hey dipshit- we all knew Pete gambled just like how we all know that OJ Simpson turned his wife and Ron Goldman into Pez dispensers. You my friend have missed the point. Just because Rose admitted later to being a cheater, didn’t mean that an all-star game interview was the appropriate place for you to ambush him.

I’m really hoping the Kings rethink this one and bring Kayte back to do the other 20 games and maybe sit next to Gerry Gerald the rest of the time.

The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.

by jjham15 on May 23, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Fat Lever on the radio though.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on May 24, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree

I’ve seen everyone’s comments on forums etc. and I’ve discussed this with a ton of male and female Kings fans… I think this post is hating on Voisin too hastily (though I personally am not a big fan of Voisin’s). If Kayte was an ugly older woman there would be no backlash, simple as that. Her skills as a TV reporter and journalist are still a work in progress and her super flirty touching etc. of male guests like Urijah Faber was unprofessional and hard to watch. I personally thought Kayte was endearing and charming as a sideline reporter but that’s not good enough when she lacks so much experience and polish and you have the opportunity to hire a nationally renowned replacement. Voisin’s writing is sometimes convoluted but I think her article regarding this matter is pretty accurate.

by mavisdory on May 23, 2010 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I personally thought Kayte was endearing and charming as a sideline reporter but that’s not good enough when she lacks so much experience and polish and you have the opportunity to hire a nationally renowned replacement

So you liked her as a sideline reporter. You just think we shoud fire her because we get someone who was once nationally renowned.

Yeah that doesn’t make much sense to me.

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on May 23, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

It’s possible for someone to be likable but to be replaced by someone who has more experience and better credentials.

by mavisdory on May 23, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

absolutely possible, still doesn't mean it's a good idea

Especially when you get rid of someone who people think is endearing and charming as a sideline reporter. I don’t know why you would tinker with that.

For me personally, this sends mix messages to the fans. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I am assuming that Jim Grey will cost a bit more than Kayte. Yet at the same time, the team is trying to get a new stadium, attendance is low, and they are trying to keep things on the cheap by possibly not using their cap space for any big time signings in the offseason. So then why spend extra money bringing in the national renowned sideline reporter that people really don’t like to replace the likeable one that is already here?

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on May 23, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's probably why Gray is only doing 20 games Wally.

Let’s get real.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I am assuming that Jim Grey will cost a bit more than Kayte

I feel more real now

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on May 23, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Allen Iverson will pour a forty for you Wally.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's only doing 20 games because he is unavailable for the rest.

He has two or three other jobs according to his interview. Again, how is this guy going to be anything other than a Maloof/Westphal mouthpiece when he doesn’t even spend time with the team. 20 games of Gray are going to cost twice as much as Kayte for a full 82. Bad move in my book.

The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.

by jjham15 on May 23, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree it's a dumb financial move.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Kings have issues

They keep getting rid of good people and keeping asshats. First Koz and now Kayte are gone. Only to keep Napear and now get another tool, Gray.

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on May 23, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Koz is a tool too

But if keeping him on board with the Kings meant keeping him off the radio I’d have been all for it.

"How you expect to run with the wolves come night, when you spend all day sparring with the puppies?"
-Omar

by kangsfan on May 23, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He lost both gigs for a while.

Poor Koz was in the middle of building a house when he became unemployed. It took a few months but he was able to fill in a spot left when the Mike O’Meara(sp) show got canceled. I don’t think a whole lot of change was needed. I like the Koz and Kayte pre-game and halftime shows.

The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.

by jjham15 on May 23, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awwww

Poor Koz.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

< / sarcasm >

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Voisin's writing is worse than Kayte's work as a sideline reporter

Her writing is just not appropriate to basketball. Her style and delivery are wrought with flowery and effervescent airs of … crap.

She just needs to get over herself and write it for her audience. Guys who want to read about the team. Not some damned literary piece.

Kayte knew a lot more about basketball than this journalist who writes about how sweaty and muscular their shoulders have become.

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on May 23, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

um.

maybe the little fact that she is/was (not sure if they still are) dating Urijah may have explained the flirtation.

by Madzillagd on May 24, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

100% agree with this statement

To demean Ms. Christensen’s achievements because she has developed a faithful fan base is petty and misguided.

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on May 23, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice BTE!

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on May 23, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, bte

Saved me a lot of writing time – reke’d, and I owe you a beer the next time we cross paths.

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by section214 on May 23, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well said, bte.

Pretty much what I came here to say, particularly in regard to Kara Lawson. She has (not surprisingly) a professional-level eye for the game, and was always insightful.

When I played baseball, we had a description for certain players that always had their cleats clean, stepped out of the batting box a lot, made a big deal about being seen warming up, etc. I now use this description for Angela Tsai: Good look, no hit.

Kayte did very solid analysis, and to denigrate her looks, or even those who appreciated that aspect, is just sour grapes, mean girl shit.

Hiring a self-important, locally disinterested has-been like Jim Gray is just salt in the wound, especially when there’s little doubt he costs the organization more.

Well, he fancies himself a journalist, he needs to get in his boss’ face on the sideline some night and ask when the city of Sacramento is getting its $70 million loan repaid.

Time will vindicate you on this too, dipshit.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on May 23, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

A momentary fix in Gray at the expense of a talented young woman.

I think this was a very bad PR move by the Maloofs. It’s like they thought they were bringing in some super star and we are just so lucky to have him for the 20 games we will get him. I was also pretty annoyed to hear Gray say that this was in the works during the season. If he would have been brought in as a part timer but Kayte was retained then I don’t think we would be seeing this type of backlash.

The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.

by jjham15 on May 23, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe & Gavin (and perhaps the Maloof family to an extent) have always had the LA stars in their eyes.

I’m not sure why, but Kayte has been tremendous given the lack of interest in the Kings franchise because of the suckitude (especially in 08-09).

It makes no sense to let her go, but this is the first misstep they’ve had in awhile. I hope it doesn’t continue.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think Lawson was "classically beautiful"

But i still found her attractive, funny and talented.

by avishai on May 23, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I often dislike the articles written by Ailene Voisin

that is all

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on May 23, 2010 2:04 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd

"he looks like he is going to take a bite out of a huge invisible sandwich..." - wallywagon11

by Sacto_J on May 24, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn You Ziller

I literally had this on my copy book (http://www.sacbee.com/2010/05/23/2770678/get-over-it-guys-grays-a-big-upgrade.html) and had just logged in to StR to post a fanshot, with a catch title of something along the lines of “Haters Gonna Hate” only to have my thunder stolen.

This article was a new low even for Voison. She didn’t really take shots at Kayte but C’Mon, I get that its summer and all but there is really nothing better for you to discuss Vosion?

by Gilo424 on May 23, 2010 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I liked Kayte but if she were "not renewed" in order to bring Kara back I would not have been bothered

The thing with me more is her replacement. Jim Gray is a major, MAJOR tool plain & simple. I cannot stand the guy. He is fine sometimes here & there but I honestly do not care one bit about anything he has to say regarding our Kings.

Was Kayte perfect? Of course not but this is a small market team who can do without “big time” douchebags who could care less about the Sacramento Kings.

To me this was an attempt by the Maloofs to try to make the Kings look bigger than what they are. You want to make the Kings “big time”? Then open up your wallets & let Geoff Petrie do what he does.

I also think Kayte was “not renewed” because Jim Grey for 20 games probably cost them twice Kayte’s 82 game salary.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on May 23, 2010 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Sometimes I wonder what it says about us when we get worked up by Ailene Voisin.

Because this is just plainly ridiculous. Of course, that’s exactly the problem here. As usual, it’s Voisin trying to justify why Kayte should have been let go; it’s not about Jim Gray really.

Unfortunately, we are stuck with Ailene unless someone who is beyond crazy wants to start a daily newspaper and lose way too much money. Sigh……

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

You wanna know what it says about us pookey?

That it is sunday & we are all bored.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on May 23, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ailene's article is beyond stupid.

It’s insulting me and saying that the only reason I liked Kayte was her looks. I do think she’s rather beautiful, no doubt, but that’s not a sole reason to like someone. As TZ pointed out, I was a strong critic of Angela Tsai too. (Who is also quite beautiful as well.)

If you’re going to criticize me for thinking of with my penis, than know what the fuck you’re talking about. THAT’S THE POINT OF THIS COLUMN BY TZ.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, beyond stupid

Perfectly stated. It is what every journalist should do to their audience. Call them names and demean them. I can just see the SacBee getting so many more readers with such hard hitting journalism.

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on May 23, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are the only paper.

Right now I think they are banking on that and bemoaning their lack of profit’s. Unfortunately.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It bugs me that we keep being told that we should all be excited that someone as renowned as Jim Gray will now be part of the Kings

Most fans don’t seem to be excited about it, and I doubt we ever will be. Kayte was a real part of the family, and Gray is an outsider. No one gives a crap who he’s interviewed and who he’s pissed off. Maybe that’s just Sacramento showing what an unsophisticated small-town it is. Or maybe we just couldn’t care less about Jim Gray and his “connections”. We’re not L.A. Get over it.

"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.

by AnotherStupidSN on May 23, 2010 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep, this is it.

She is one of us. A real part of the family. It always feels good to see somebody who you can connect with do well. Kayte connected and we appreciated her on many levels.

Voisin is just a jealous and unappealing person who would love to have half the regard we freely gave to Kayte.

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on May 23, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Reke'd, wabut

Head on nail.

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by section214 on May 23, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

He once went to a psychic...to warn her.

The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.

by jjham15 on May 23, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I'm sure Ailene likes these type of books

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 23, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to flag this for too much awesome.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on May 24, 2010 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

GOOD POINT!

She’s a fucking idiot. I read about a paragraph. I’m never reading her shit again. Not even going to click on her article. I even changed my picture so I sont have to see her aging face that is an un-youthful-looking 50, with her slender ugly features and dark black afro that seldom slips out of place.

cole aldrich and jon brockman baby!

by Bambooozled on May 24, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bravo TZ!!! Rec'd

I have not really gotten into the whole signature thing, but I love this, “I didn’t major in Common F-cking Sense, but …”

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on May 23, 2010 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Amick's twitter feed re: this article

Last three points are funny because they’re true.

Although my vote still goes to @kayte_c. And, no, not just because she’s easy on the eyes. She’s very good. Plus, Gray only doing 20-ish gms.

Who does the other home games that aren’t marquee enough for Gray? Plus, let’s get real with the idea that he’ll be a pitbull in this gig.
It’s not that kind of job, especially when you were hired by the owners of what will be a sub.500 team. For entertainment value, Kayte wins.
RT@uncleducker What possible hard nosed reporting can Gray do from the sidelines? Talk about hiring a cattle rancher to herd your goats.

rec'd, +1, FTW, This.

by TheJust on May 23, 2010 2:29 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

It's so hard to believe that Sam Amick is no longer working for the Bee.

I mean, he didn’t think it was wise to let Kayte go.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

The bottom comment is my favorite.

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 23, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw the article and decided not to even read it.

I don’t usually care what she thinks, nor like her writing style, but her writing this is so stupid. Does the Bee even want readers? The fact that she thinks it’s all about how Kayte looks is shortsighted and irrelvent even if it was true. Truth is, Kayte was pleasent on the eyes, and all Aliene’s ramblings seem to be to me is the bemoanings of a woman who hit too many branches as she fell down the ugly tree.

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by kwill on May 23, 2010 2:30 PM PDT reply actions  

From my wife: Ugly people gotta hate on beautiful ones..That’s all it is.

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on May 23, 2010 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Which puts Ailene in a tough position

because she’s got a lot of people to hate.

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by vfettke on May 23, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

This

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by 49er16 on May 23, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does Ailene ever read this site?

I feel like a good Kings journalist should, and we know Amick definitely read. Hopefully she reads sometimes and can realize how dumb that column was.

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by lodisacfan on May 23, 2010 3:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I almost think it was half inspired by the tyrades here

I mean C’mon who really is blowing up Voison’s cell phone and email address about the release of Kaytie and the hire of Gray?

by Gilo424 on May 23, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we're so sexist wouldn't we dislike CRAP for looking like a haggard Howard Stern?

Yes we would. But we don’t. We dislike her because she is god awful and terrible. I’ve taken shits with more journalistic capability than her.

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by vfettke on May 23, 2010 4:23 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

JEALOUSY

Just seems painfully obvious to me. Most of the “die-hard” fan base here and on the other fan sites generally seem to have a pretty poor opinion of Ailene and hold Kayte in high regard. Just saying….

by TTown Kings on May 23, 2010 4:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Which would explain why she hated Sam -

He’s just so hunky!

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by section214 on May 23, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same reason I hate you, section

Just once I’d like to be the pretty one in the staff meeting

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by Exhibit G on May 23, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd have to kill you all to do that.

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by Aykis16 on May 24, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

/facepalm

Why do we always seem to keep the wrong individuals around the team?

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by edm7 on May 23, 2010 4:31 PM PDT reply actions  

bad management and decisionmakers

I mean, seriously who the hell hires a blatant Kobe Bryant supporter to do the sideline reporting for Kings games. Heeeeelllllloooo, we all HATE Kobe Bryant, don’t bring in one of his cronies…

Can we buy Pete Rose tickets to a game this season?

by TTown Kings on May 23, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should I make the playoff thread for today?

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by 49er16 on May 23, 2010 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

She got exactly what she wanted

with this piece ….. everyone talking about it. To me, Ailene has absolutely no merit and no credibility, which is why I don’t read the Bee anymore, and one reason why I spend a lot of time on this site.

She’s Sacramento’s version of Spencer and Heidi Pratt ….. has nothing to contribute to anything, so she says something asinine and hopes it gets her attention.

Oh, and as far as Katye goes, yes she is beautiful, but that’s not why I like her. Hell, i liked her more on the radio! She knows the game, bottom line. Lisa Guerrero was hot as well, and she made me wanna mute the TV cause you could tell she had no clue what she was talking about.

Katye for 41 games > Jim Gray for 20 games, in my opinion.

by Dub_TC on May 23, 2010 5:37 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

i meant

“hopes it gets people’s attention” … my bad.

by Dub_TC on May 23, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't have an opinion one way or another on Voison, since I rarely read her

But you guys are saying a LOT of pretty sexist shit on here, mainly the whole “jealousy” argument.

Before I get into this, I’ll say that I’ll miss Kayte. I think she was capable as a sideline reporter (though sometimes her assignments were just so awkward that no one could’ve made them good), and very strong as an analyst. The few times I heard her on the radio for a post-game breakdown, she was great. I think she’ll be really successful in the future, where ever she ends up.

That said, what I get from Voison’s column is that she thinks the experience and credentials of Gray makes him an improvement. I don’t know enough about him to form an opinion, but obviously you guys are perfectly entitled to disagree. But what I don’t get from this column is any hint of jealousy. Automatically assuming that women are jealous of other women they don’t like is just stupid, because it’s very rarely true. I pretty much hate the useless celebrities who are famous for being famous, and I am not jealous in any way of them. I don’t want to be stalked by the paparazzi and scrutinized 24/7. But any time I make any sort of negative comment, guys assume I’m jealous. I assure you, I am not.

I mean, really, the only thing she really says about Kayte is that she wasn’t as good as Kara (which is true) but better than Angela (also true). Yes, her assumption that guys only liked Kayte for her looks is wrong, but you guys can’t deny that plenty of guys like her because she’s beautiful. Maybe not people on StR, but we’re hardcore fans. The average viewer may not be.

Maybe I’m being a bit pessimistic about this whole Kayte issue, but I just guarantee there are plenty of people out there who don’t give a shit about anything but her looks. It isn’t you guys, and you have every right to strongly disagree with Voison for what she said, but there have to be guys out there who are the opposite of StR posters.

Anyway, again, you guys have every right to disagree with Voison’s assertions, but to assume she’s jealous (or to call her ugly/unattractive) actually hurts your argument.

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by Christina_J on May 23, 2010 5:46 PM PDT reply actions   4 recs

So it couldn't be jealousy?

Because I don’t see that many other reason why Voisin would write a column telling “guys” to get over it. Isn’t she the one bringing up a sexist argument saying that the only reason “guys” disagree with Kayte’s dismissal is because of her looks?

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by edm7 on May 23, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Slow your roll on this sexist shit

Widowwolf clearly said WHAT HIS WIFE TOLD HIM. If that’s a sexist statement, than a woman is to blame for it. Personally I think Voisin is what she is: A columnist with nothing better to write so she wrote something stupid to stir shit up.

Anyway, again, you guys have every right to disagree with Voison’s assertions, but to assume she’s jealous (or to call her ugly/unattractive) actually hurts your argument.

Actually it doesn’t. Apparently you missed the entire point of why TZ criticized her since she often talks about players in unusual ways. This is not a new joke on Voisin. Read this if you think this is a new criticism of her. In Feb of 08, Voisin did this crap too. And, Kayte was still on the House Party then.

Regardless of whether Kayte Christensen is prettier than Ailene Voisin (this isn’t a contest), the fact is that Kayte is also a salient and thoughtful basketball analyst. That’s rather important to me since I’m not in the market for a pretty amazon at the moment. It’s also true that I think Kara Lawson blows Kayte out of the water in terms of how she did her job. I really don’t blame Kara Lawson for leaving the Kings to go to ESPN. That’s a step up. Unfortunately, ESPN has done everything possible to highlight everything else other than Kara Lawson’s looks. Because she is not strikingly attractive to enough men that she will get by on her looks. Thankfully, she knows basketball and knows what she is talking about. Which is probably a bit of proof that looks AREN’T always the issue.

Doris Burke is a terrific sideline reporter, and I’d much rather hear Burke than, oh I don’t know, anybody out there doing sideline reporting at the moment. She’s might be less attractive than Ailene Voisin at this point. (Do I care? No.) What I care about is what Doris Burke is saying WHILE DOING HER JOB.

You can play the sexist card everytime this craps up, but everytime you do all it seems to me is your crying wolf. I think Ailene Voisin is very jealous of someone like Kayte because she had something Ailene Voisin doesn’t really have: A respect throughout the Kings fanbase. Regardless of how Ailene feels about Kayte’s looks, it would not be hard to jealous of someone who is thought of higher professionally AND is better looking than you.

Yes, her assumption that guys only liked Kayte for her looks is wrong, but you guys can’t deny that plenty of guys like her because she’s beautiful. Maybe not people on StR, but we’re hardcore fans. The average viewer may not be.

Again, if you tell me I can’t think with my dick, I’m going to roll my eyes and consider you irrelevant. It’s not that I mind being called a sexist pig; I probably am. I do mind though when someone complains that I think with my dick, and then acts like it’s somehow surprising. Most guys my age think the same way. The difference between mature males and immature males is that mature males think fo women in more than ONE way. Last I checked that includes sexual thoughts.

You’re really barking up the wrong tree with this crap. But to each they own I suppose.

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by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions   4 recs

Thing about jealousy is...

It is not an emotion most people are going to readily admit to. If you asked me if I am jealous of Tyreke Evans, for example, I would initially say ‘no’. I am fan, and love to watch the guy play. But would I want to lead his life, play a game for a living, ditch the 9 to 5, make a ton of dough, and be one of the best players in the world? Hell yeah, I would! So is that jealousy? Envy and jealousy, sure, there is a little bit of that, I am not going to lie.

Lets be honest. In a world where women, and men, are judged by their physical appearance, would Aileen like to have the body and face and sex appeal of a woman like Kayte? Of course she would! I don’t even mean this as a criticism of her, it’s human nature. This underlying attitude, however much she would deny it, pervades the tone of her article.

I do take slight exception to this comment:

But in terms of her professional skills – which is supposed to be the issue, right?

TV is a visual medium. And the producers of the telecast is Maloof Entertainment. Key word is entertainment. Providing meaningful content and offering well-formed thoughts is only part of the job of the sideline reporter, granted a large part. The person should also be fun, engaging, personable, spontaneous, quick-witted, and likable. And yes easy on the eyes. Remember, this is entertainment. Not the PBS channel or Jim Lair News Hour.

There is also something to be said for a person with an intelligent perspective, a history to draw upon, a local insider with ties to the Kings coaches and players. Kayte has these traits. Gray does not. So for Aileen to reduce her appeal to her physicality is an insult to Kayte, and to the male viewers who liked her.

I actually think Jim Gray will be alright as the new guy and will add to the broadcast. But there was no need to replace Kayte. And for Aileen not to come her defense, at least a little bit, in an industry dominated by men, reeks of feelings of animosity and inferiority.

Knowing the sweet disposition of Kayte, she did not take the slight personally, and handed Aileen the business card of her hair stylist before bidding her and the Kings adieu.

by bench_blob on May 23, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The Bee Will Burn, and so will Voison..

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by slamson on May 23, 2010 6:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Evers Burns?

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by Aykis16 on May 24, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

And by the way CRAP

Sure, Kayte is pretty. But that’s not her only good quality. We’re not exactly a group that is super focused on looks. I mean, have you seen this?

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by vfettke on May 23, 2010 6:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Voison’s

I’ll keep it short and simple.

Voison is one of the most annoying columist i cant stand 99.99% articles (Negative) and by the way anytime another women see a beautiful they almost always thinks that girls a B!*&!^ thats just how they are hell the bottom of my worn out dneakers are better looking than Voison.

by Bware94 on May 23, 2010 8:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Will someone put up a picture of Voison please...

She looks like a wicked witch. Also, I am still trying to figure out if Alien is jelous of her looks, or her talent? Both of which are missing from Alien’s resume’.

by mike murray on May 23, 2010 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

It's amazing how often these jokes get regurgitated.....

….yet it remains as funny as the first time you’ve heard it.

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by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMG

She does look like Howard Stern,

by Bware94 on May 24, 2010 5:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I won't say Voison's jealous...

…but her depiction of the Kings fan base as drooling all over the floor of Arco Arena at the sight of Kayte absolutely reeks of “sour grapes.”

by napg on May 23, 2010 9:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Sorry, Voisin.

That second “i” always gets me.

by napg on May 23, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

To Voisin's credit, she did mop up some of the drool.

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by Slam_Dunk on May 24, 2010 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

The funny thing is,

the sideline reporting was the least of Kayte’s broadcasting talents. She was awesome on the now defunct House Party Live, where she proved to be knowledgeable and quick on her feet. She has also proven very capable on the post game radio recap on KHTK. And now all of that is apparently gone, traded in for 20 games of Jim Gray.

Sure, Ailene, Kayte was easy on the eyes. But to accuse a fan base of being that shallow is an amazingly stupid think to do. Just amazingly stupid.

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by section214 on May 23, 2010 9:47 PM PDT reply actions  

What kills me is Ailene knows quite a bit about basketball.

It’s everything else she really sucks at.

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by pookeyguru on May 23, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm so good, I scare myself.

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on May 24, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't have much of an opinion on Gray

but for those who missed my comment after the lottery let me tell you how prepared Mr. Gray is for the job. At the block party he introduced Donte as our draft pick last year. Yeah, that’s two mistakes in one intro.

Way to do your research and care Jim Gray!! Hell of a first impression!!

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by edm7 on May 23, 2010 11:42 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Kayte won my heart

when she showed up Kozimor and it helped him get the boot. That was my favorite thing about her.

...

by prowseinthehouse on May 23, 2010 11:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Get over it...

It’s a well known fact Voisin is an idiot. She has absolutely no credibility as a writer and is probably the laughing stock of the Kings locker room (if not the entire NBA). Her one vote she cast for herself got her Sacramento Magazine’s top sportswriter last year in their “Best of” contest. But cut her a break. So she’s made a few mistakes…big deal…she wanted Ricky Rubio…who can blame her? Look how well he played for Minnesota this year…I think she even voted for him for Rookie of the Year. And I understand if Phil Jackson leaves the Lakers she’s going to once again lead the crusade to bring him to Sacramento. Heck, she’s so NBA-smart she should coach the Kings. They’d probably win the championship next year.

I think her biggest problem though is nothing she writes is based in reality…well, maybe for her, but certainly no reality anyone else in Sacramento lives in.

by sacnewsnet on May 24, 2010 12:12 AM PDT reply actions  

I read this in the paper this weekend - read it out loud to my wife

her response
 ’ Voisen is a jealous bitch isn’t she?’

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by lietothegirls on May 24, 2010 7:23 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Voisen...

… is projecting. She’s accusing fans of thinking this way, because this is how she thinks. She is constantly guilty of judging men based on her attractiveness.

by henryclemente on May 24, 2010 8:37 AM PDT reply actions  

That's great, Otis. Rec'd

To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.

by Slam_Dunk on May 24, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd, my good man

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by outrider on May 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kayte was the BOMB!

As a reporter. She was fantastic.

The fact that she is alsoa bombshell has nothing to do with why I am pissed she got canned.

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on May 24, 2010 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

What I loved about Kayte..

..besides her appearance, was her experience as a player AND her classiness. She was also ALWAYS right there in the huddle for every time out, taking notes and analyzing the plays. Whenever I went to a game she was up and about, taking notes, talking to people.
You rarely saw her just sitting around writing things down, she was out there getting the info.
Perhaps at times she failed to deliver the info as in depth as we would have wanted, but her time to deliver said info was limited, and she was still learning the ropes. Its not as if she had been a reporter for YEARS who was delivering crap for us on a weekly basis, (Insert Aileen Voison), and yet still thought she was doing a brilliant job, when clearly she is not.

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by Dirkula on May 24, 2010 11:19 AM PDT reply actions  

The problem I have with the article is that it didn’t give Kayte enough credit for her skills as a sideline reporter. But still, go back and read any game thread where Kayte is mentioned, and I’d bet about >80% of the comments are about her looks. It’s a double standard for women in sports.

by cbsf on May 24, 2010 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Im not arguing that there is not a double standard...

but let me raise two points:
A: Look at this thread, its 95% about our respect for Kayte’s abilities to do her job.
B: Look at all the Adam Morrison, Pau Gasol, Greg Ostertag, Joakim Noah jokes we have made over the years. Whether you like it or not, attractiveness is a point of analysis for consumers in the entertainment industry, even among men.

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by SactoRyan on May 24, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s fair to look at this thread ,which is a response to an allegation of sexism, as a summary of the comments made about Kayte.

Also, don’t think it’s fair to say that the same importance is put on the looks of these basketball players as it is for a female sports reporter.

by cbsf on May 25, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm confused

As to how solid beat reporters Sam Amick and Scott Howard Cooper (hell, even Mark Kreidler and Marty McNeil) are let go, yet prove their “mettle” and worth by getting hired almost immediately by national outlets such as ESPN and Yahoo! for their pieces, yet the Bee keeps a writer who is obviously not well received and respected even less locally. The issue here isn’t whether or not Kayte C is / was good looking, or whether Jim Gray is a tool. The issue is that Ailene’s horrific writing agenda and skill set are so pathetic and The Bee has let everyone else go, that this is all there is to read about the Kings in our local media, and this would be enough to piss off even a casual sports fan. The Bee has lost its credibility (if they had any to begin with,) and showcasing Ailene’s hack writing in the sports section is further evidence that they don’t have the first clue what their readership is interested in. My subscription was not renewed a long time ago….

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by Sacto_J on May 24, 2010 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

yet the Bee keeps a writer who is obviously not well received and respected even less locally

that’s why she’s still here. She gets people fired up.

by Dub_TC on May 24, 2010 12:27 PM PDT reply actions  

The Jim Gray word association game!

Play at home or work!

Say “Jim Gray” out loud, then write down the first words that come to mind. I’ll go first.

“Jim Gray”

“Annoying twerp”

See how fun and easy it is!!!

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by outrider on May 24, 2010 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Aliene Voisin and her best friend.

look at my picture...I'm an idiot and I want to have sexy time with Jim Gray and Ricky Rubio!

by Bambooozled on May 24, 2010 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

This is Hilarious!

Search for Aliene under google images and look what comes up!

look at my picture...I'm an idiot and I want to have sexy time with Jim Gray and Ricky Rubio!

by Bambooozled on May 24, 2010 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

You're Welcome

look at my picture...I'm an idiot and I want to have sexy time with Jim Gray and Ricky Rubio!

by Bambooozled on May 24, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

ailene voisin is wack!

by Bambooozled on May 24, 2010 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

ailene voisin is wack!

by Bambooozled on May 24, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

ailene voisin is wack!

by Bambooozled on May 24, 2010 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

That dude needs a Bro/Manssiere in a serious way.

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by jjham15 on May 24, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is awesome news

So now we get to watch a crap team AND a crap sideline reporter? Great.

"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal

by NewEraKings on May 24, 2010 10:52 PM PDT reply actions  

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