Forget Chris Bosh, meet [insert cheap and young player], part III
This last part took a bit longer before I posted, due to some problems with the laptop where I stored it.
I have looked at the league rosters, and came up with some players which could become contributors. I have limited the scope to players no older than 25, and with current contracts of $3 million and under, with a few exceptions.
This is my last post on the subject, after the jump.
Orlando - J.J. Reddick (age 25, $ 2.8 million salary) and Ryan Anderson (21, 1.3). Reddick's big calling card is of course his outside shot, and he could complement Tyreke's play very well. I believe his defense is better than most people think, and he has a high basketball IQ. Anderson, a local guy, would be a fan favorite, but has also the tools to fit into this team. He can get out of the post to create room for Tyreke and Landry (or any other low post threat we may draft) and stretch team defenses with his long distance shots, and seems to be a decent rebounder. Although smaller than Spencer Hawes, he seems to be more consistent and even-keeled, with a more polished offensive game.
Philadelpia - Marreese Speights (22, 1.7) and Jason Smith (24, 1.4). Speights seems to have the potential to be a good rebounder (4.1 RPG in 16.4 minutes), and also potentially a good offensive player. However, shotblocking and defense are not his strengths, and he still needs some years to develop. Not one of my favorites. Smith is a bit similar, given the fact that he is projected as a good offensive player but very limited defensively and also as a rebounder. According to draftexpress, he has short arms, and doesn't show the desire to be a good rebounder and defensive player. There are other big men I would rather take.
Phoenix - Robin Lopez (22, 1.7) and Goran Dragic (23, 1.8). And here is one of my favorite bigs. The main problem is, Phoenix likes him as well. Robin is no Brook, but he can be a starting center on a competent NBA team soon. Unlike his brother, Robin does not have a very polished offensive game, but can score without demanding the ball. He is mainly an above average rebounder and defender, who is not afraid to bang underneath. He has the potential to become a good shotblocker as well. Dragic reminds me of Beno, but has better range, and could turn out to have a better NBA career. But given Beno's good report with tyreke, I would hesitate to make a move in which we ditch Beno and pick up Goran.
Portland - Nicolas Batum (21, 1.1.) Batum is a second year player, who received a lot of praise. This year, he played 24.8 mpg, with 10.1 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, .519 fg%. If you compare him to Casspi, they put up numbers who were quite similar. Casspi rebounds a bit better, but Batum shoots at a higher percentage. The differences are that Batum is more athletic, and also a better defender. With Casspi and Greene here, there is little sense in bringing in Batum, unless it is a deal which involves other players, and you get rid of either Greene or Casspi, to avoid a logjam.
San Antonio - Ian Mahinmi (23, 1.0). A lot of people are high on Mahinmi, an upcoming FA. He is intriguing, especially as an athletic defending big, but still seems to need a few seasons to develop into a legitimate NBA player. The problem is that we have only seen a small sample of his worth in the NBA. According to draftexpress, his offensive game is extremely raw, once he is more than a few feet from the basket. As nice as he looks, he may get a lot of attention as a free agent, and may get more money than he is worth. I added George Hill (23, 1.1) to my list as well, but I suspect with his recent play in the postseason, he will be almost untouchable.
Toronto - Amir Johnson (22, 3.9). Another free agent, and also intriguing. His development continued this year at Toronto, after some promising seasons with Detroit. He scored 6.2 ppg and hauled down 4.8 rpg in only 17.7 minutes. His numbers are a bit erratic; some games he played a lot and put on very nice numbers, in other games he sort of disappeared. He's a superb athlete, and draftexpress typified his best case scenario as a poor man's Jermaine O'Neal. I don't know what that means, but I can see the comparison with O'Neal, who also went straight from highschool o the NBA and took some years to develop. Johnson earned almost 4 million this year, and I am not sure whether he is worth a whole lot more. But if we decide to ship out Hawes and try HT at center, this may be a guy who can provide good backup minutes as a PF and even undersized C, sometimes. He would be a significant upgrade over Brockman and May.
Utah - Wes Matthews (23, 0.4). The Kings had him, and let him go. That must hurt a bit. Matthews does not put up big numbers, but he plays strong defense and has been a valuable piece for a disciplined, smart-playing team with a lot of weapons. Sloan loves him, which speaks volumes in my book. A true glue guy, he needs to get a more consistent outside shot in order to help the Kings, but his ft % shows that he is a good shooter. I believe he will continue to develop into a very solid NBA player. I doubt the Jazz will let him go. Kyrylo Fesenko (23, 0.8) has been mentioned a lot in some recent posts. I cannot see why, to tell the truth. He is tall, and has a good frame as well as strength and speed for his size, but I do not see how those attributes translate into a competent basketball player. He has very bad hands, even worse than Kwame Brown's, and seems to lack the basketball IQ and/or instincts to become much more than a 15 minute backup who offers you some rebounds, a putback and six fouls.
Washington - Shaun Livingston (24, 2.2). One of my favorites, especially if we draft a big guy. Livingston was a big talent coming into the league, but unfortunately he got the Clipper curse and was often injured. This year, he played 36 games, with 22.1 mpg, scoring 6.9 ppg and dishing out 3.6 assists, with 2.2 rpg. His field goal percentage was .517 this year. However, he still lacks a consistent outside shot. That would be a compelling reason not to pick Livingston, given the fact that Tyreke has a similar weakness, but the guy is a very good distributor with decent size. I can see him as contributor in a 3-guard rotation with Beno and Tyreke.
After reviewing my posts again, this would be my wish list, while taking into account the Kings' needs (as I see them):
- Aron Afflalo; a strong wing player who defends and can hit the 3-ball
- Kevin Love; if the Wolves are really trying to trade him, I would love to have this guy. You want a good rebounder and defender, he fills those needs pretty well, together with a good offensive game.
- Courtney Lee; he would be an excellent backcourt mate to Tyreke, with a good shot and strong defense
- The Hornet rookies; Thornton would be the better fit, given his sharpshooting skills. But I think Collison has a very bright career ahead of him as well. With the change in ownership in New Orleans, it is hard to predict what will happen with their roster. I assume they will not be traded so easily.
- The Hornet Center; no, not Okafor. Aaron Gray. While other big men get a lot of attention, he slips under the radar while showing signs of promise.
- Serge Ibaka; Hey, I can wish, right? If the Thunder want to win now, they might make a deal.
- Ryan Anderson; A big who can hit the long ball and rebound, and he is from Sacramento. What's not to like?
- Robin Lopez; stranger things have happened. And more realistic than wishing for his brother.
- Shaun Livingston; if you need a true point guard with size, here you have one.
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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How do you have Aaron Gray ahead of anyone?
I’d rather have every single person you’ve mentioned over Aaron Gray.
On a more positive note, I think Shaun Livingston could be a real good fit with Tyreke and Beno and I think he’d be relatively cheap (like maybe 2 mill a year) because of his injury history. He’d let us keep our size advantage when Reke was out and he could play with either Reke or Beno.
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I'm not saying Gray is better than Okafor
Or Lopez or Ibaka or maybe not even better than Mahinmi. But I think Gray is a guy you can get for far less than the others, and still get quite good production. Value for your money, if you will.
I looked at his numbers, and he had quite few games when he played about 17 minutes or more where he was relatively productive.
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Have you watched him play?
You can look at all the numbers you want, but this guy just isn’t very good.
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Not that much, I admit
But enough to see that he is better than Fesenko, for instance. I don’t understand why some people here are so high on Fesenko.
And of Mahinmi I saw so little, that I cannot truly see his real problems for competing consistently on the NBA level. The same goes for Aldrich. He looks great in the NCAA, but will have some huge problems managing in the NBA. And that is when the dreaded Upside kicks in, because when deficiencies have not been exposed enough, we can all salivate over potential.
Mahinmi will be overpaid, I’m pretty sure. Aldrich will be drafted in the top 10, even top 6, which is quite high for the skills you get. Aldrich will take at least 4 years to become a solid player on both ends of the floor.
Gray, you could still get at a decent price, and you have a pretty good view of what he can give you as a backup center.
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Are Minnesota really shopping Love?
I was under impression they wanted to keep Love and trade Jefferson. Atleast thats what i’d do if I was David Kahn. Then again, if i was david kahn, i wouldn’t draft 2 point guards in a row, and if i did I would have atleast made them 2 of the 3 best remaining available (Curry, Jennings. Holiday). But thats just me…
I really like Robin Lopez BTw
Combo or Varajao/Biedrins (pre-mental break down). Active big, guards hoop. Still needs to rebound better though a huge upgrade to Hawes. Probably runs a better pick and roll or slash the hoop to any Sac bigs. Of course having Nash helps that, but i’m pretty sure Tyreke could find him consistently.
Nicolas Batum, Courtney Lee or Speights would be excellent for the squad
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Portland isn't giving up Batum.
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They might, they might not
Your guess is as good as mine.
Would you expect the Thunder to give up Ibaka?
In this article, the possibility of Oklahoma going after a player like Bosh is discussed, as well as the trouble Presti will have with all the upcoming contract extensions.
What if the Thunder try and can’t get Bosh? Would they consider a trade involving Landry and Ibaka?
Anything can happen.
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Afflalo, Courtney Lee, and Livingston are my choices
out of most of the guys you’ve listed.
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Rik, I really liked the series even if I didn't always agree with you conclusions
If nothing else it is a good response to posters who say “hey we need a young cheap big” or something equally inane. They are not out there.The problem I have is that any player I might be an interest in is probably untouchable. Having said that, the fact you stuck to your criteria regardless of availability was a strength of the posts. As someone mentioned in the comments, at the beginning of this season, the majority of King’s fans would have thought Kevin Martin was untouchable. My choices would be Kevin Love, Aaron Affalo and Serge Ibaka. Shaun Livingston looked like he may have finally turned the corner in his attempt to comeback from his gruesome knee injury with his play for the Wizards.
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Thanks Bluejohn
I’m glad you liked them and especially for the reasons you mentioned.
I’m no expert, so I’m sure many of my conclusions will be way off the mark.
But it’s nice that we all get to discuss and argue here on this great site. As long as we don’t have to be the real GM, we all have tremendous potential. :-)
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Who?
May, Noce, Udoka, Brockman, McGuire. a second round draft pick. If Garcia doesn’t improve much, even him.
And if I have to keep hoping for Hawes to tap into his immense potential, yes, also him.
I didn’t delve into it too much, but all kind of scenario’s are possible.
Dunking Dutchman
May and Udoka are free agents,
and McGuire is likely to be. Of the remaining, why would Orlando part with Anderson for the likes of Noc, Garcia, Brockman or a 2nd round pick?
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I don't know
Like I wrote in my first post of the 3: “I did not put too much emphasis on our immediate needs, and only a bit about how we could attain them. We have some cap space, we have players who can be traded and we have draft picks. Your guess is as good as mine.”
Many things can happen. Anderson was almost an afterthought in the Carter trade. He could come her in a similar way, or as part of 3 team deal, I don’t know.
But my post was not about how likely it is to get one of these players. I wanted to step away from the discussions about getting one of the expensive free agents who want to play on a contender and will not likely consider Sacramento as their next stop. There are more ways to building a good team.
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