2010 StR Draft Board - section214 Edition
by section214 on May 30, 2010 4:11 PM PDT
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OK, so it's a football. Sue me.
In honor of my impending sigmoidoscopy, I humbly pull these 15 selections out of my arse. Just about everything has been said about these guys already, so I won’t add much more.
1 – John Wall Really, this is the biggest no brainer since Dwight Howard in 2004. You just don’t pass up on this type of talent. He’s the only guy on my 5-star list.
2 – Evan Turner Turner may be the most NBA-ready of this rookie crop. A long, versatile, baseline to baseline swingman. There might be a team or two that might not need Wall (Utah, New Orleans), but every NBA team could find a spot for Evan Turner. My only 4-star guy.
3 – Derrick Favors I think that DeMarcus Cousins and maybe even Wesley Johnson are more of a sure thing from a strict basketball skills standpoint, but Favors is an incredible athlete for his size, and as a result he would be my third choice. He could be a monster in a couple of years. 3 and a half stars.
4 – DeMarcus Cousins Simply, if Cousins’ attitude raises a flag with Kings brass, I would drop him below Wesley Johnson. And I have some concerns. That said, I had concerns about Chris Webber coming here, and I had concerns about us drafting Jason Williams. I had concerns about Ron Artest and Bonzi Wells. I wasn’t sure about Jimmy Jackson. In the end, only Artest really created any real heartache while in a Kings uni. And to be clear, Cousins has not really done anything other than show that he is a petulant and somewhat spoiled youngster. The question is, will he grow out of it? 3 and a half stars.
5 – Wesley Johnson I like Johnson a lot and would be fine if he were there for the taking with the 5th pick. What I can’t believe is the concern over Johnson being a 22 year old junior. Turner is a 21 year old junior and I don’t hear a peep about that. Amazing. 3 and a half stars.
6 – Al Farouq-Aminu I like Aminu, but not nearly as much as Cousins or Johnson. But I like him a lot more than anyone else left on the board. 3 stars.
7 – Cole Aldrich I know that a lot of people have Greg Monroe on their board by now, but I’m just not sold. I think that he could be a solid pro in a Jared Jeffries sort of way, but I think that Aldrich could be a better version of Joel Pryzbilla, and at this point on my board I value Aldrich slightly higher than Monroe. 2 stars.
8 – Greg Monroe I may have Monroe too high here. He just does not impress me athletically, but he fits here based on his production. 2 stars.
9 – Ekpe Udoh This guy is older than Wesley Johnson…wtf?!? 2 stars.
10 – Ed Davis Intriguing prospect – I just wish that I had seen more of him. 2 stars.
11 – Hassan Whiteside – He’s here on size and potential. 2 stars.
12 – Patrick Patterson – I think that Patterson will be a solid pro. I think that he will join the ranks of guys like Carl Landry and Paul Millsap – slightly undersized 4’s that find a niche in the league. 2 stars.
13 – Xavier Henry – Henry could be an interesting backcourt partner with Evans, but he does not warrant a top five selection. I kind of lumped Aldrich/Monroe/Udoh/Whiteside/Patterson together, so Henry wound up here. 2 stars.
14 – Daniel Orton – Just because. 1 star.
15 – James Anderson – This guy strikes me as the best remaining prospect for knocking down spot-up 3’s. I know that guys like Babbit and Hayward are getting some love right now, and George, Alabi, Bledsoe, Seraphin and others also deserve some attention here. But I’m going with Anderson for now. 1 star.
Well, that’s it for now. Here’s hoping that the doctor finds nothing more than my "good" side.
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The thing that gives me pause about the Aldrich/Przybilla comparisons
Is that Aldrich measured only 6’9" in socks. He does have very long arms, but Przbilla is 7’0" – 7’1". I don’t think Aldrich is going to have much of a physical presence in the NBA.
Pryzbilla is 7'0"-7'1" by NBA measurements
Aldrich will be 7’0" by NBA measurements. All of these guys (including Pryz) get/got an inch or two taller on their way to the NBA.
I probably put less stock into the combine measurements than most people. The measurements are not to be completely ignored, but guys like Al Horford (for example) would have dropped out of the lottery had their measurements been taken as the be-all and end-all.
Aldrich will never be an all star, but I see him having a 10-12 year NBA career. I am slightly less sure about Monroe.
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Przybila was listed at 7'1" at Minnesota too
I don’t think he participated in the combine, but there’s still a three inch difference there.
I guess I don’t see how you could be concerned about Monroe’s athleticism and not have those same concerns about Aldrich considering that Monroe both performed better athletically at the combine and is taller.
And Aldrich was listed at 6'11" at Kansas
Aldrich and Monroe are completely different types of players. That said, Aldrich is taller in shoes (they play the game in shoes) and has a better reach than Monroe. And again, I don’t put as much stock in their combine performance as some do. Jerome Jordan is taller than all of these guys – should we rank him above Monroe and Aldrich?
Based on watching these guys in college (which is all I can go on at this point), I like Aldrich more as a pro prospect than Monroe, just barely. A lot of people see Chris Webber in Monroe. I see Josh McRoberts.
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I don't see Chris Webber either
Anyone making that comparison is getting out of hand.
But fair enough on the height thing. I just bring it up because to me, before the combine Aldrich seemed like a really safe pick, but his lack of height gave me pause. Yes, they play the game in shoes, but I suspect that they don’t play them in whatever lifters Aldrich wore to the combine. They say he wears orthotics, but you usually add 1.25"-1.5" for shoes, not 2.25".
And given that we already know Aldrich has underwhelming athleticism, his role was really going to be a big body in the middle. Take away the bigness of that body and you have a not-very-mobile power forward. I can understand why you like him, but I no longer see him as a safe pick.
I respect your opinion
But Aldrich did finish 5th in division 1 in blocked shots last year. Lifts or no lifts, that’s certainly respectable.
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No doubt
Don’t get me wrong, I think he’ll be a solid player. I just went from thinking of him as a very safe (if very unexciting) prospect to someone I now feel is a bit riskier than I did before. But at the very least he’s a strong lane clogger with long arms and a decent jump shot.
Also-
My 7-13 guys are pretty interchangeable. I really have about an eyelash preference for Aldrich over even Henry.
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Aldritch is getting so much anti-hype
That he could very well surprise some people. Anyone who watched Aldritch at Kansas over the past couple years could tell you, he’s not giving up size to anybody – whether they are 6-9 or 7-0. And for all the lazy Pryzbilla comparisons, he isn’t some slow lumbering beast, he is fairly athletic for his size.
Add to the fact that he has a fairly consistent- if unorthodox – shot, and great defense. He could be the kind of space filling defensive anchor that a team can use for many years – and how many teams have that?
Lazy Pryzbilla comparisons?
Lazy would be an Ostertag comparison. And Pryzbilla is fairly athletic, though a lousy shooter.
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I think Pryzbilla's jumper
is a work of art next to Aldrich’s jerky mechanism.
On D, Aldrich will be able to contribute immediately. he problem is that offense, teams will dare him to take the mid range jumper all night long.
Good list. I believe Ed Davis and Xavier Henry have huge bust potentials, so I wouldn’t take them that high, but I know many would.
Dunking Dutchman
I like your commentary for each player and your star rating system.
To be the best, you have to do your best. Otherwise, you are only second-rate.
My only concern about picking Wes Johnson,
is not the value of Wes Johnson, but the PT for Donte and Casspi and the bad chemistry that might follow.
An understandable concern
But having too much talent would be a nice problem for this team to have.
Greene has already begun to prove that he can be a multi-poisitional player. If Johnson and Casspi can be half as versatile (and all three develop), there would be plenty of minutes for all of these guys, divvied up at the 2, 3 & 4. Worst case of the best case scenario would be the ability to trade one of these guys for other needs.
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the awesomeness about sirs Greene and Casspi
Is that they can both play SG, SF, and small PF in certain lineups. Yes we have a “lot” of wingmen, but we dont have a lot of money in wingmen, so I agree with Section – throw Johnson into the mix and let them fight for the minutes.
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by kangsfan on May 30, 2010 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I would Go Lightly on Aldrich as well
Monroe has been a top pick for some time and the kid seems to “know” the game. Smarts can lift a player with average athleticism – I am thinking Paul Pierce but the counter to that is Spencer Hawes.
And that is the dilemma – do you draft Greg Monroe and hope he becomes the Spencer Hawes that Spencer Hawes hasn’t become – yet? Greater minds than ours will make that decision and it will define this draft for them.
I am an Anderson Fan. He has the size and shooting to be a top quality SG and the athletecism to be impressive. He needs to show he can defend but his Cowboy pedigree should allay those fears.
Good luck with your procedure. Remember: Versed is your friend and please don’t post the pictures. Drink that jug and you can claim (for once) that you aren’t full of s***. You may never look at garden hoses quite the same way ever again.
When Pierce was younger he wasn't an "average" athlete.
He wasn’t flashy, but he was very athletic.
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by tomroadrunner on May 30, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
My memory is old and dusty
but that was the knock on PP and why he dropped from a predicted #3 to #10. His Jayhawk teammate was grabbed at #3 instead (Raef LaFrentz)
by betweentheeyes on May 30, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Blech
Getting old seems terrible. No wonder old people do and say whatever the hell they want.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on May 30, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Guilty as charged
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on May 30, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
So what if he's a 22 year old junior.
Amare Stoudemire was drafted out of high school at 20 years old.
sorry this is off topic - should this be a fan shot?
Sporcle: NBA numbers. I got 16 and the clock ran out. Very darn tough.
by betweentheeyes on May 30, 2010 11:20 PM PDT reply actions
Sporcle has some good quizzes
I got 23. Missed the Cavs, Pacers, Thunder, Pistons, Blazers, Suns and Sixers
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
I got 21.
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Heres to section...
and hoping this is a flexible sigmoidoscopy. The rigid version sounds much worse. I hope all ends well (no pun intended…well kind of).
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is "Sue" on the left or right?
hell it doesnt matter, sue me too!
huh? wha?
by effin steve on May 31, 2010 12:16 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I would LOVE to see Przybilla
in a Kings Uni. That being said, Cole Aldrich is no Joel Przybilla…
"he looks like he is going to take a bite out of a huge invisible sandwich..." - wallywagon11
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