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There's a potential Kings free agent target for ya.

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If Kings bomb out in the draft, here is a possibility.

Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
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by Slam_Dunk on Jun 11, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

So true

If we end up with another guard or forward in the draft then hells yea lets get a defensive minded center in there. My question is how will he feel coming off of the bench? Cause I still like Landry at the 4 and either JT or Spencer starting at the 5.

If we get Cousins then you don’t need Tyson unless you are packaging Landry. Hawes or JT and a SF for an up and coming guard to play alongside Reke. That is the only way. But who am I to say.

by IDunkedOnceInHS on Jun 11, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm

Say he gets 3/27mil

I gotta say … if he’s healthy … I wouldn’t mind it.

by Dub_TC on Jun 11, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

I could live with that.

Less would be better, but man, he brings something we do not have, and haven’t had in forever.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Jun 11, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's exactly

why I’d be fine with it. It’s a huge need we’ve needed for a long time.

by Dub_TC on Jun 11, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's too much

Lets do 3 years 15 mil, with the last year team option…

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by slamson on Jun 11, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

he would not agree to that i think.

it would have to be a player option if anything.

Tommy Kelly's ass won us that game against Denver!

by Robby1987 on Jun 11, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would he do this?

Why would he opt out of his 1 year, 12.7 mil contract for a 3 year, $10 mil guaranteed, $15 mil contract?

by CloudyEyes on Jun 11, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

Not really sure if he’d be worth the money he thinks he’s worth, but we could do worse. I’d assume the execs would hope that: a)he’s healthy, b)he’s willing to go with a 3-4 year contract, and c)he’s willing to accept that he’s not going to be even the 3rd option.

Free agents of this caliber always scare me because Petrie seems to be willing to pay more than what they’re worth (and I thank heaven that Bonzi Wells never did sign the offer).

by clicc916 on Jun 11, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd be shocked

He’s not a Petrie type of player. (Not saying I’m opposed to it however)

Pacifist ass-kisser

by otis29 on Jun 11, 2010 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

No offense otis but

The “he’s not a Petrie type player” things is so tired. Maybe more than “Tyreke is NaPG”

GP built the Kings around C-Webb & Vlade. He aquired players to fit them along with Adelman’s system.

Now GP has a new star, new coach, & new system. He will now aquire players to fit in with all of these factors. If he is not then he shouldn’t be our GM anymore. You can’t just keep aquiring “your type of players” if they don’t fit with your star or system because you will fail. GP is a smart man he knows this.

Now I don’t know what types of players fit with the current star/coach/system, but we shouldn’t automaticly count players out because they don’t fit with our stars/coach/system of the past.

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Jun 11, 2010 2:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry if it's "tired"

But it’s true. I think it’s more tired to expect Geoff Petrie to change his spots and select a Thabeet type player in the draft, or trade for a Dalembert defensive-type guy.

It has to do with players being multi-skilled. And Tyson Chandler is fairly one-dimensional.

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by otis29 on Jun 11, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

He did sign Keon Clark, Tony Massenburg, Justin Williams.....

Petrie is very adaptable. He likes high BB IQ guys but on occasion, he goes out and does something unexpected. If Petrie thinks he can fit a player into his current puzzle, he will.

Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.

PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.

by jjham15 on Jun 11, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

These are fairly insignificant signings (Keon possibly being the exception)

Keon averaged 22 minutes as a King, Massenburg 13 minutes, and 3Will 9 minutes.

Now, if that’s the expectation (that Chandler’s going to play limited minutes and come cheap), I could see Petrie pulling the trigger. But let’s be real…that’s not the case here.

Pacifist ass-kisser

by otis29 on Jun 11, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree Otis, but this is a different Kings team we are looking at.

I think signing Chandler would be a huge mistake because of the injury issues. Does he fit perfectly with the rest of the guys? He might but I think he has too many flaws to really take a whole lot of minutes away from what the Kings already have.

Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.

PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.

by jjham15 on Jun 11, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

This team is certainly different

Petrie has changed his approach a bit to allow for a more physical (“tougher”) brand of basketball. The players themselves are still multi-dimensional though.

I’m just saying I’m not holding my breath for this type of deal to happen.

Pacifist ass-kisser

by otis29 on Jun 11, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to agree with you Otis

The truth of the matter is that Petrie picks offensive types of players over defensive. This is his preference and I can’t believe anybody would seriously argue otherwise. To ignore that is just simply putting blinders on. Rare exceptions for low use or cheap players don’t necessarily throw out this argument.

When Petrie invests large amounts of money or a high pick he does not have a history of valuing and getting defensive talent over offensive talent. The closest he came to this is getting Artest, but it wasn’t like he didn’t have an offensive game. Salmons was a pretty good defender as well, but I think he was more noted as an offensive player. So, there may be a couple instances, but does this invalidate your point? I don’t think so.

I think that the jury is still out if Petrie can change and get the players that Westphal needs to play the kind of defensive oriented game that seems to be the goal. Time will tell, but I am a bit pessimistic.

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by MustangMBS on Jun 11, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except for Brian Grant & Tariq Abdul Wahad I agree with you.

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by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do people keep saying Brian Grant was defensive minded?

Late career when he had the dreads yeah, but does anyone remember his first few years when he was on the Kings? He was primarily an offensive guy down low, and not a good rebounder at all.

by nbrans on Jun 11, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was a physical defensive player.

What are you talking about?

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by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That wasn't what he was known for early in his career

He was an offensive minded post guy who evolved into a better defender/rebounder as he got stronger over the course of his career.

by nbrans on Jun 11, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not that he was a bad defender

He was always good. I’m just saying that it’s not like he was drafted primarily for his defense/rebounding.

by nbrans on Jun 11, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with Pookey.

Grant was touted as a rebounder and defender out of Xavier and I think he lived up to that completely- even as a young player.

Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.

PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.

by jjham15 on Jun 11, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with nbrans

Grant came out of Xavier as one of their all-time leading scorers. He led his team in scoring all 4 years in college. He was not considered an elite defender/rebounder, but more of an all-around player with good offensive skills.

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by RikSmits on Jun 11, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Brian Grant certainly doesn’t fit into that category. I remember him being sold as a guy who was solid on both ends of the court when they drafted him.

Big difference between him and a guy like Tyson Chandler.

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by otis29 on Jun 12, 2010 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

You forgot Ostertag

"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." - Cardinal Richelieu

by hozr on Jun 11, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The quintessential Petrie player

"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." - Cardinal Richelieu

by hozr on Jun 11, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still can't believe he played for the Kings.

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by Aykis16 on Jun 11, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I guess he would never pull the trigger

On a Spencer Hawes for Dwight Howard trade?

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Jun 11, 2010 2:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don't be an idiot.

Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.

PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.

by jjham15 on Jun 11, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh geez

Come on allbenji’s – that’s a GSOM quality argument there.

Pacifist ass-kisser

by otis29 on Jun 11, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never know where the new talent is going to come from Otis.

Don’t be a hater.

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Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

If a guy can be had reasonably...

(define “reasonably,” right?)

And he plugs a hole that you have, and the most obviously gaping one at that, a guy as clever as Petrie isn’t going to think on that?

If he can get a clean bill of health from Kings’ medical personnel, it’d be very short-sighted not to take a look.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Jun 11, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed, Andy. Good points.

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by lifestyleforthesellout on Jun 11, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah jeez, that might deserve a facepalm

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by wallywagon11 on Jun 11, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Top Cat...

Nice Ally Oop There TC! ( in my technicolor Ally cat sidekick voice)

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by Shadrack on Jun 11, 2010 12:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Dude if guys like Tyson Chandler, Peja Stojakovic, Richard Jefferson et al

Are all seriously contemplating opting out of their current deals, there must be some serious leverage on the Owners part in the new CBA. Some of these guys have got to be thinking long term and hoping that they land a sucker to lock them in for 5-6 years during the current CBA, rather than risk the new set of rules that is going to be implemented going forward. This is unreal that he’d walk away from 10+ million dollars.

by Smills9133 on Jun 11, 2010 12:06 PM PDT reply actions  

The Free Agency market is gonna make some not so big names super rich

When those top 3 are gone there’s gonna be some GMs clamoring to blow their load on someone. Joe Dumars did it last year with Ben Gordon and Charlie V. It’s a good thing Mike Dunleavy’s not a GM anymore

#vfettkefordraft

by vfettke on Jun 11, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we end up with WJ in the draft I think Chandler is a a great FA option at Center

Especially for 3years/27M

I would rather have Chandler at 9M/year than Lee at 10+/year, thats for sure.

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by SactoRyan on Jun 11, 2010 12:08 PM PDT reply actions  

His career is going rapidly down

since he failed the medical tests for the Thunder trade. This guy has more red flags than cousins.

by ZenBaller on Jun 11, 2010 12:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Is it legal to build an incentive for games played?

Say 7 million a year for 3 years and 500k extra for 50 60 70 and 80 games…making 9 million a year possible

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by ElRonToro on Jun 11, 2010 12:11 PM PDT reply actions  

It is

For example Nate Robinson lost 1 million dollars this year because Boston sat him out two games. If he had played those 2 games he would’ve reached that million dollar incentive. I would be fully in support of such an incentive if we attempted to sign Chandler, because I’m very worried about his health issues.

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by Aykis16 on Jun 11, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

At that 3 year $27 million price tag I'd looooove Tyson Chandler

Especially if he stays healthy, which he apparently is.

A lot of us liked the idea of taking on Emeka Okafor. Chandler and Okafor have similar numbers. Okafor obviously scores more points, but that’s about it. Rebounding, blocked shots, shooting percentages: all similar. Under this hypothetical contract Okafor would make an extra $9 million over those 3 years and has a 4th year at about $14 million. That’s a lot more money to pay for an extra 6-10 points a game. The bright side for us in this type of deal is that we don’t need his offensive production. We need his rebounding, especially on the defensive end, and we need his shot blocking ability. $9 million a year for a possible double double and a couple blocks is fine by me.

Something to consider. The Kings may have a leg up here. Apparently Chandler’s quite the family man. If I remember correctly he and Bobby Jackson became pretty close when BJax was in New Orleans because they had kids around the same age and their wives became friends too. A team that can offer him a decent deal, a chance to do what he does best, and a good place for his family might have the best chance of signing him

#vfettkefordraft

by vfettke on Jun 11, 2010 12:24 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

A 9 year career

an 8 and 9 guy in 28 minutes…played a little over half a season the last 2 years. I would need 5 doctors to tell me this guy is healthy before I offer him more than 3 years 21 million.
He will only be 28 at the start of the season though.

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by ElRonToro on Jun 11, 2010 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

NO.

Sign someone better. Go big or home. I don’t want no Mikki Moore’s on our team.

by SantaCruzKing on Jun 11, 2010 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

a healthy Tyson Chandler >>>>> Mikki Moore

by Dub_TC on Jun 11, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

shoot

an unhealthy tyson chandler >>> mikki

by SantaCruzKing on Jun 11, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

[nothing to get excited about] >>>> Mikki Moore

by bignerd on Jun 11, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn.

Your dead grandma knows how to rock it Michael.

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by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would rather pay him than David Lee...

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by TrojanCBB on Jun 11, 2010 1:07 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

How is he from 15 feet?

It seems like with our rising franchise player being a slasher, we’d want a center who can pull defenders a little bit out of the paint. Right now, all our bigs except Brockman can do that. Can Chandler? I honestly don’t know, but my foggy recollection is that he doesn’t have much of an offensive game outside of 10 feet. That wouldn’t have been a huge downside a year ago when our primary scorer was Martin. Now? It at least gives me pause.

by twasserm on Jun 11, 2010 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

You want a big like all of our other bigs?

None of whom can finish with authority, aside from Landry, who is undersized? How many more assists would Evans have collected with Tyson slamming the ball instead of Hawes and Thompson flipping up layups that got swatted away?

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Jun 11, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know Andy,

Both Hawes and Thompson have far superior offensive games compared to Chandler. In order for Chandler to get those assist you speak of, Tyreke is going to have to be a much more willing passer when he gets to the key. If Reke does develop these skills, I think both Hawes and JT will be able to finish just fine and they both give you so much more on offense than Chandler.

Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.

PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.

by jjham15 on Jun 11, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

But I'm not trying to get Chandler for his offense.

He’s a legit backstop who rebounds, and any offense you get is gravy. Keon Clark was a shot-blocking machine, but it’s not as if he was incompetent near the basket, and I think Chandler is a bit more polished, in addition to the defense.

The question is, what is fair market value for a player with somewhat limited offensive skills? On a Kings team with lots of other scoring options, I would suggest his skills are worth more, whatever that figure would normally be.

I’d rather have Bosh. We ain’t getting Bosh.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Jun 11, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

$27 mil for 3 years probably is FMV

I compared his value to Okafor above. Their stats are similar but Okafor’s better on offense. He scores more points but his FG% is a little lower. Many people here were perfectly willing to trade K9 for Okafor. Taking Chandler for about $3 million less per year and one year less than Okafor seems perfectly reasonable to me, especially when the main difference is that Chandler’s offense isn’t as good, which doesn’t matter to us anyway.

#vfettkefordraft

by vfettke on Jun 11, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

But after the new CBA

His fair market value may be 3 years 18 million, and the 27 would make him grossly overpaid. I do not think the Kings go FA and pay anyone more than 7 million a year who isn’t named Lebron Dwyane or Chris.

There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.

by ElRonToro on Jun 11, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, that's the problem with all these 2nd/3rd tier guys being suggested

I keep hearing the stars will continue to get paid like stars but everyone else is going to take a significant pay cut under the owners plan for the CBA.

by bignerd on Jun 11, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody will take Chandler for his offense

And if you really want a C who is strong, can rebound and block some shots and will make an occasional dunk or putback on offense, you might as well draft Cole Aldrich. He is younger, seems healthier, and will be much cheaper. I think after two years in the league, Aldrich can be a 8 ppg, 10 rpg, 1.5 block guy. He is not as polished when his man takes him farther away from the basket, but with the age and salary difference with Chandler, I will take that for granted.

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by RikSmits on Jun 11, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you watched Aldrich shoot.

I swear I saw him bring the ball all the way behind his head and between his shoulder blades. So many flaws, so little time.

Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.

PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.

by jjham15 on Jun 11, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I commented over and over again

on his horrible shooting mechanics.

My point here is that you don’t take him for his offense (just as you don’t take Chandler for it).

Dunking Dutchman

by RikSmits on Jun 11, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

well if u want powerful slams

amare is a far better option than chandler (on offense)

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by Surprise Team on Jun 11, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stop the fucking presses

Amare is better on offense then Chandler? I’m sold. Let’s sign him.

by Charlieb on Jun 11, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't like him

He is a very different age from our core group of players. I’m not a big fan of spending big in the free agency market this year unless we get a miracle w/ Bosh or Amare.

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by lodisacfan on Jun 11, 2010 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Tyson has the length to alter shots and is great at defending the pick and roll, which is huge for a big man in today’s league with all the pick and roll pg’s in the NBA. But, as a follower of the Bobcats I can say that while he had some nice games, he just couldn’t get healthy last year. I’d be wary of offering him too big of a contract.

by DerekRE_3 on Jun 11, 2010 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

uhh...yeah

there is no way Chandler is opting out of 13 million. I would bet money on it

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by Ellimist on Jun 11, 2010 2:10 PM PDT reply actions  

By opting out he stands to get more money long term

Than if he stays in, and the new CBA cuts salary. Plus, a lot of teams are going to try to make a splash this summer, and not everyone is going to get that big player so they’ll overpay for someone else, someone like Tyson Chandler.

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by Aykis16 on Jun 11, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

pass for me on chandler

Tyson Chandler to me is a slight upgrade to Hilton Armstrong (which isnt a good thing)

i mean, the big season in 07-08 Chandler had he only averaged 11 pts a game, 8 of which probably came on chris paul alleyoops

then last year when Chandler’s stats were not inflated by a favorable system, he stunk it up in Charlotte

sure he brings defense but supposedly so did Armstrong….so did Joey Dorsey….so did Kenny Thomas (low post defender)

Now look where those 3 guys are, we got rid of em….so I dont want to make another mistake and pay this guy big when we hardly use him in the long run

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by Surprise Team on Jun 11, 2010 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

No. Fuck No. Are you seriou? Hell fucking no to the hizzell and eternity and back and then some.

No.

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by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2010 2:30 PM PDT reply actions  

i think this sums it up

"I have missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I have lost almost 300 games. On 26 occasions I have been entrusted to take the game winning shot...and missed. And I have failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why... I succeed." Michael Jordan.

by Surprise Team on Jun 11, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

David Lee

A rich man’s carl laundry, why are people dumping on him again?

Guy is a stud 20 and 12 doesn’t lie. Don’t care what system he plays in, his shooting percentages are great with no point gaurd anywhere near the knicks’ roster. If we sign David Lee I will be ecstatic about the future of our franchise, especially if we draft DMC. These moves most likely make Spencer Hawes trade-able. With JT and Lee starting and DMC and Laundry as their backups, along with Beno Udrih, Tyreke Evans, Omri Casspi. The Kings run a starting unit with 2 borderline all stars and have one of the deepest teams in the NBA, the Kings really need a backup point-guard though.

Hope

by Ultrakingsfan on Jun 11, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you serious?

“one of the deepest teams in the NBA?” Boston’s and Phoenix’s bench would tear up our starting unit. We had the third worst record in the league. I love rooting for the Kings, but let’s be realistic here.

by jozyme on Jun 11, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

which means

if the Kings sign him, he’ll be an All Star.

by Dub_TC on Jun 11, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Signing Chandler for big money would be a worse decision to re-sign Bonzi Wells to the contract they nearly signed him to.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the reason why

I’d like it is because of what he brings to the table. If the Kings take Cousins or Monroe, then I wouldn’t want Chandler at all.

by Dub_TC on Jun 11, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rather make a play for Dalembert.

At least you’ll know he’ll get on the court even if he’s a slumlord.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jun 11, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pookeygurometer only applies to the draft

I’ll see if I can include Free Agency in the Pookeygurometer 2.0

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by Aykis16 on Jun 11, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

You might as well include everyone else in the FA pookeyguruometer....

…cuz there was virtually noone who understands the Mikki Moore signing.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro

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by pookeyguru on Jun 12, 2010 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

$9 mil/year for 3 years? His contract will end before the next time you get laid

#vfettkefordraft

by vfettke on Jun 11, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

rec's for proper way to bust someone's ballz

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by wallywagon11 on Jun 11, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

No thanks. His age means he won't be a core piece for when we want to contend

Makes no sense to overpay him so we can be better in the short term, peaking too early, being an early playoff out or a 10 seed with a shitty draft pick. Pass.

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 11, 2010 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Honestly

If there’s no one Petrie’s blown away with available at the #5 why not just take Aldrich or Whiteside? Aldrich could easily by a Tyson Chandler type of guy, albeit much cheaper. Whiteside’s potential is all over the place. He could be the next Joel Pryzbilla or the next Hakeem on defense.

#vfettkefordraft

by vfettke on Jun 11, 2010 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

he's working with Hakeem to btw, Whiteside that is

Umm... I thought we were officially referring to Voison as the Chick Replacing Amick at the Paper? or CRAP, for short.

by sac_faithful on Jun 11, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is?!

#vfettkefordraft

by vfettke on Jun 11, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I think he might be a Dream fan...

Can’t blame him.

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by tomroadrunner on Jun 11, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The pic describes how I felt about Hassan working with Hakeem

The pic also describes me perfectly, because I am, in fact, a giant prick

#vfettkefordraft

by vfettke on Jun 11, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least you are a man willing to admit it. :D

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by lifestyleforthesellout on Jun 11, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow, just wow.

Umm... I thought we were officially referring to Voison as the Chick Replacing Amick at the Paper? or CRAP, for short.

by sac_faithful on Jun 11, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a Chandler fan but not for 9 Million.

6-7 million yes!

9-10 million I’d think about it but probably pass, specifically with the current core of players we have. As has been mentioned, Chandler is several years older than our current “core” and while he is one of the best defensive centers in the NBA I’m not sure he’s worth it.

Actually, part of the reason NO digressed this year (aside from injuries to Paul) was trading Chandler. Okafor parks himself in the low post offensively allowing the opposing defense to crowd the paint and thus denying decent penetration for Paul. Also, while I am an Okafor fan he’s always going to be a Very Good not Great defender based solely on his lack of size (much like Cole Aldrich will be).

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by lifestyleforthesellout on Jun 11, 2010 5:01 PM PDT reply actions  

He would be stupid to opt out.

He will still get a decent contract later, even after the CBA.

13 million this season is A LOT.

The only reason I opt out if I am him is if I have a chance to go to a team like Phoenix or San Antonio that could be making deep playoff runs.

Maybe he wants to follow the super free agents and be part of a conglomerate of Wade, LeBron, Bosh.

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by Ice_9ine on Jun 11, 2010 5:04 PM PDT reply actions  

No no no no

No no

LaMarcus Aldridge is the most over rated and over paid player in NBA. Tyreke Evans will be better than Brandon Roy this year.

by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 11, 2010 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Not a fan

Especially not for 9 mil a year. Has to prove he can stay healthy first and that’s always a big if. I’d rather get Dalembert.

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by edm7 on Jun 11, 2010 6:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Career 8.1 points 8.8 rebounds 15.1 PER

Tyson’s stats page.

Career high in points was in 07-08 – 11.8. Since: 8.8, 6.5
Career high in boards was in 06-07 – 12.4. Since: 11.7, 8.7, 6.3
Career high PER was in 07-08 – 17.5. Since: 13.4, 12.5

Has played only 96 games total over last two seasons and he seems to be on the decline.

I’ll pass.

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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 11, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

this.

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by chenp22 on Jun 12, 2010 3:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

No for me.

Chandler would bring something the Kings haven’t had, but he’d also bring something we have had: Injury Prone player. He’s already had 3 seasons of 50 games or less (including the last two) and he failed a health exam when the Thunder traded for him. Last time the Kings signed a guy who failed a health exam was Shareef, and we all know how that turned out.

If we want a defensive guy I’d rather go for Varnado in the 2nd round or trade for Dalembert or just draft Whiteside or Aldrich.

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by Aykis16 on Jun 11, 2010 8:56 PM PDT reply actions  

I guess it's time to way in on this

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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by wallywagon11 on Jun 11, 2010 9:58 PM PDT reply actions  

If you're waying in then I'm waying in

on the weighing in.

There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.

by ElRonToro on Jun 11, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

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