Sources say the Kings are also still open to trade possibilities, and Detroit and Utah are two teams eager to move up in the draft. The Pistons’ Tayshaun Prince(notes) could be intriguing to the Kings, who are eager to add a veteran small forward to the roster.
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ahg.LxBoOCo2Oq27WYsan.PqbwM6?slug=ys-favorscousins061310
I hate this kind of BS. Have they looked at the roster? Oh, and Favors and DMC are supposed to go 1 v 1 in New Jersey, but who cares about that right?
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As long as Noc is included in the deal
I could see Prince coming back in a trade. I’d trade Noc/Hawes for Prince.
I would rather give Daonte and Casspi the minutes
Umm... I thought we were officially referring to Voison as the Chick Replacing Amick at the Paper? or CRAP, for short.
by sac_faithful on Jun 13, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
He's an expiring in '11
So it would be one year and then Casspi or Donte could take over. Not a bad situation at all.
a little veteran leadership at the position would help, didn't know he expires next year
I’m for that
Umm... I thought we were officially referring to Voison as the Chick Replacing Amick at the Paper? or CRAP, for short.
by sac_faithful on Jun 13, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I would like to see Prince as a mentor for Donte
So if this went down, the Kings would end up with Monroe and Prince, correct?
by getPGwithbounce on Jun 13, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, if Detroit wanted to move up
It might be Noc/Hawes/#5 for Prince/#7
And yeah, then the pick could be Monroe or Whiteside.
I think this happens only if DMC and Favors are off the board
Umm... I thought we were officially referring to Voison as the Chick Replacing Amick at the Paper? or CRAP, for short.
by sac_faithful on Jun 13, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, true
So Detroit trades up for Johnson at #5 to replace Prince, Kings take Monroe or Whiteside to replace Hawes.
I think the only way Detroit would do it
is for Cousins. And I would hope we would not do it in that scenario. So, no deal.
If we trade down..........
Why give up Hawes? Monroe is more of a 4 than a 5.
KINGS WILL BE 10-11 CHAMPIONS
It's only moving down two spots
And Prince is way better than Noc and has a better contract. Have to give to get.
We would be giving the 5th pick.....
They have been shopping Prince & Rip for 2yrs now. & I don’t look for Donte or Casspi to regress next season, so why create another log-jam at the 3.
KINGS WILL BE 10-11 CHAMPIONS
Shed Noc's contract to move down just two spots and take a player they would probably take at #5 anyway?
That’s worth Hawes to me. Yeah, there’s a potential logjam problem, but it’s only for once season. I think it’s worth it to get rid of Noc’s contract.
The only way we take Monroe at 5.........
is if Cousins is already gone. & if that’s they case there’s really no need to do this trade.
KINGS WILL BE 10-11 CHAMPIONS
This doesn't make sense to me
I already said that I don’t think this would happen with Cousins on the board. But let’s say Wall/Turner/Favors/Cousins are the first four picks. At #5 the Kings can either take Johnson, who might not be a fit long term, or just reach for Monroe or Whiteside.
Instead the Kings could get the big they might reach for, but also shed Noc and his deal. You give up Hawes, but it’s a big upgrade at SF, Prince is expiring, and you get the player at #7 you might have taken at #5.
Yeah.....
But I still don’t like the Idea of giving up Hawes just yet, especially if we aren’t getting Cousins. That leaves us with JT, Landy, & Monroe. JT would be the biggest body we have, & can barley stay out of foul trouble. So why not keep the 1 true center we have, which is Hawes?
KINGS WILL BE 10-11 CHAMPIONS
it doesn't make sense for me
that the Pistons would do this without Cousins at #5. But Dumars’ offseason was baffling last summer, so I guess you never know.
If there is logic to it
It’s that Detroit comes away with both a young SF (Johnson) and a young C (Hawes), which are their biggest areas of need. But as always who knows what Dumars would be thinking.
Interesting couple of paragraphs
Cousins had an excellent workout with the Sacramento Kings, grading out as the best shooter to visit Sacramento in the predraft process. He hit 78 percent of his shots in the workout, including a lot of pick-and-pop attempts.
Favors graded out as the far better athlete, but the Kings, who have the No. 5 pick in the draft, believed Cousins was a more advanced player. He showed Sacramento officials more range than they thought he had, consistently hitting the 17-foot jumper. The Kings are considering several players, but Cousins could be difficult to pass over.
Sources say the Kings are also still open to trade possibilities, and Detroit and Utah are two teams eager to move up in the draft. The Pistons’ Tayshaun Prince(notes) could be intriguing to the Kings, who are eager to add a veteran small forward to the roster.
I like how Woj gave more insight into the workout than the beat reporter for the Kings
"For five decades (and counting), these fans have been blessed with West, Baylor, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Shaq and Kobe. Seven of the 15 best players ever. At some point, the gravy train will end. The Lakers will bottom out like the Knicks did last decade, submarined by bad moves, poor signings and unlucky drafts. Their fans will flee in droves. Jack will pass away. The buzz will be gone. That's how the NBA works -- in a 30-team league, you can't always get lucky, not even if you're a big-market team with deep pockets. I don't know if that day is three years off or 30, but it's coming." Bill Simmons
Yeah. How did that happen?
Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
-John Wooden
see, I don't even care about him being a Lakers fan
just do your job and make it worthwhile for me to buy a newspaper. Why is it that a national writer providing more coverage and insight into the kings when your entire job is to cover the kings?
"For five decades (and counting), these fans have been blessed with West, Baylor, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Shaq and Kobe. Seven of the 15 best players ever. At some point, the gravy train will end. The Lakers will bottom out like the Knicks did last decade, submarined by bad moves, poor signings and unlucky drafts. Their fans will flee in droves. Jack will pass away. The buzz will be gone. That's how the NBA works -- in a 30-team league, you can't always get lucky, not even if you're a big-market team with deep pockets. I don't know if that day is three years off or 30, but it's coming." Bill Simmons
Yeah. I am with you. I just don't get this.
Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
-John Wooden
Ha
Mr. Jones doesn’t ‘do’ weekends. Besides he had a date with the World Cup.
Tayshun Prince is a terrific defensive player, and rebounder. Perfect complementary guy. But he is 30 years old and due 22 million over next two years. I think the way he plays though, he has 3 to 4 good years left, if he can stay healthy.
Joe Dumars seems like a stubborn trade partner. I think he has reputation for overvaluing his players. Doubt anything would happen unless they are motivated by luxury tax. I might give up a future lotto protected #1, but not Spencer.
Trading down two spots to #7 pre-draft is a sucker move. Draft day trades make sense after the picks have been made to ensure the player you want is nabbed.
Something along the lines of Noce + Wesley Johnson #5 for Prince and Whiteside #7 is feasible if Kings determine Whiteside is their guy, and another player to their liking (Favors, DMC) does not fall.
Prince
one year at $11 million
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 13, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
no it doesn't
it means they are willing to trade up and give us salary cap relief to drop down 2 spots
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 13, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Anything else is possible
but if anyone needs cap relief, it is the Pistons, not us. We are looking to accommodate a disgruntled player, and improve ourselves in the process. With K9 and K-Mart off the books, we have money to spend wisely.
Unless the Pistons absolutely love a player at #5, I don’t see them willing to take on a 2 year/13.5 million contract owed to a guy coming off his worst season for a former All-Star with an expiring contract (1 year/11.1 million). They have enough bad deals on their roster already (Villanueva, Rip, Jason Maxiell)
I would say if Johnson falls to us at #5, that does increase the odds of a trade. Any word of him coming to Sac?
What I like is how Woj got all the details from Favors' agent.
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what?
Now I have to read the whole article. That is funny. Favors agent is killing him. I know we are supposed to think of agents as evil geniuses but I am not so sure about this guy.
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 13, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I'm not sure either.
Woj single handledy made the guy look like a putz. Or tried to anyway. Wonder why. And with Woj, you have to remember: It’s Woj we’re talking about here.
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was he at the workout?
Watched the Cousins interview and I didn’t recognize the first voice asking all the questions. Was that him? The national reporters always like to come and but in in front of the local beat writers.
Was who at the workout?
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Yes But how does that refer to him being in Sac for the workout?
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
LOL Leroy
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
You're kidding right?
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Probably someone I've never heard of.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
No, "Someone I've never heard of" is on third
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Oh
Well it’s certainly not one of the Athletics who is on 2nd.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If one is, it's probably because their most productive hitter bunted him over
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Sadly yes.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
How'd their weekend on the other side of the bay go?
Then the X-Files being, looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan with Isabella Rossellini lips and breath that reeked of vanilla Chig Champa,
did a slow-mo Matrix descent out of the butt end of the banana vessel and hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw, and my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip and all I could think was: "I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice that I pissed my f***in' pants."
yep ;-)
Then the X-Files being, looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan with Isabella Rossellini lips and breath that reeked of vanilla Chig Champa,
did a slow-mo Matrix descent out of the butt end of the banana vessel and hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw, and my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip and all I could think was: "I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice that I pissed my f***in' pants."
wait? (only two more Ws and one H left)
how did you know he got it all from Favors’ agent? Reading skillz not so good these days or I am blind.
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 13, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
You're not blind.
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This is all I see him attributing to Favor's agent
The Nets hold the third pick in the draft, and so far Favors’ agent Wallace Prather has been reluctant to let him get matched with the bigger, stronger Cousins on the floor. They worked out together in Sacramento on Saturday, but largely stayed in individual drills.
Is this what you were referring to?
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 13, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
No the Cousins stuff.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
but right above that it says
John Grieg, the agent for Cousins, won’t send his client to workout for the Minnesota Timberwolves, sources say, because he believes the Wolves have decided to draft Syracuse small forward Wesley Johnson.
Cousins had an excellent workout with the Sacramento Kings, grading out …
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 13, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If it seems confusing that's because it's meant to be.
If Cousins is this dominant low post threat, how brilliant is it to see him shoot 17 footers unguarded?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yeah I don't think it necessarily played out that way.
Ziller mentioned it in another thread but it could very well have been Cousins’ agent who supplied some of the information.
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 14, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I've been thinking about that
i think both agents contributed to the report. But about the other guy strangely.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Sources say? Statements without any names to quote
Maybe Woj is just making shit up to fill out his daily number of required words.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
I could believe this too.
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Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yeah was about to post this
but saw it in this tread. More interesting than the trade tidbit in my mind. Hopefully it’s true, both that he’ll be there at 5 and that we take him. But with Geoff, you never know.
As a better fit then Prince.....
How many minutes are there to go around at the 3? Donte’ really being the only one that can legitimately play multiple positions.
KINGS WILL BE 10-11 CHAMPIONS
Washed up how........
Because he was hurt? Prince was hurt also. Rip is a spot up jump shooter; maybe not a 3-pt shooter, but still a knock down shooter to play alongside Reke.
Kings get- Rip
Detroit gets- Noc, Garcia
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Yeah, I'm done
Rip is 32, is not the player he used to be, and has three years/$37 million left on his deal. If you think that makes him a good fit…. yeah. Done.
lol
If it makes you feel better I had someone tell me the fact Monroe came into Sac first and alone means that he’s the Kings guy. Apparantly teams make up their mind before workouts and just pick the order according to how much they like they guy.
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 13, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Was it a Warriors fan?
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it really doesn't matter who it was
either way though it was interesting
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 13, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Style of Play.......
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=294
Where does he look washed up? Injuries happen to everyone, rememver Kmart?
KINGS WILL BE 10-11 CHAMPIONS
3 years $37 million
and no way we will be able to dump all of our bad contracts on them in one trade.
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 13, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Something will go down tomorrow or Tuesday but I'm sworn to secrecy. Argh! RT @phillyfanatic84: Are you hearing any pre-draft Trade Chatter?
Draft Express Twitter
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yeah I am surprised nobody has fanposted that one yet
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 13, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I am going to be all kinds of irrational with this information
But if it’s a deal with Phili there could be alot of different players. Like Indiana and and Minni
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 13, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Givony ok
But he is one of the least reliable sources of all when it comes to trades. Didn’t he once have a rumor that KG was coming to Sac?
wow I was unaware of that one
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 13, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Here it is in all its glory
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Word-on-the-Street-Redick-s-Back,-Trade-Speculation-1341/
Garnett to Sacramento? A trade rumor that has been gaining some steam since the conclusion of the NBA pre-draft camp, this potential trade would send the disgruntled Kevin Garnett to Sacramento in return for whoever Minnesota wants with the #19 pick, Brad Miller, Kenny Thomas, and a newly signed and traded Bonzi Wells.
Jerebko's ok
But I don’t see him becoming better than Casspi.
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Swede doesn't entice me
Nobody on the Pistons does really.
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Ha, took me a second.
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by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 15, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Personally I think it's TWolves and Philly
That’s why TWolves are not interested in seeing DMC. They are trying to get Evan Turner with the #2, and Philly will select either Favors or DMC. So that would leave us with Wes or Monroe
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All this means to me is:
The Kings are open to trade possibilities
of course they are, why wouldn’t they be? The rest is verbage to fill up a column.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 13, 2010 9:05 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Thank You bte
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by lifestyleforthesellout on Jun 13, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
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