What Samuel Dalembert Gives the Kings on Defense
by Tom Ziller on Jun 17, 2010 1:00 PM PDT
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PrintFor years, Kings fans have clamored for a big man who can rebound and defend. For years, we have rued the franchise's devotion to skilled stretch bigs who can handle and shoot but not rebound and guard the rim. We met the draft of Spencer Hawes in 2007 with a combination of self-flagellating guffaws and suicide notes. We bruise the trade machine with attempts to reverse fate in the middle. We watch a cavalcade of questionable opponents pound us in the paint, and we bang our fists in frustration.
I think that's all about to change, if just temporarily.
Samuel Dalembert is, in short, exactly what Kings fans have begged for all these years. Keon Clark without the substance abuse, Scot Pollard with a good back, Justin Williams with one less lady at any given time. Dalembert is the anti-Hawes, essentially. He won't be shooting threes. He won't be trying to loft a running hook over Pau Gasol. He won't watch the ball careen to an opponent off the rim. He won't be dropping passes backdoor to slashing wings. There's good and bad in the transformation of the team's center position.
But the "good" in the transformation cuts right to the core of the team's overall deficiencies.
In the past two seasons, the Kings have finished 29th and 18th in defensive rebounding. In the past two seasons, Samuel Dalembert has finished 3rd in the league in defensive rebounding. Last year, Hawes finished 26th of the 33 centers who played 800 minutes. The season prior he was 20th of 33.
That's a monumental difference. Huge. Dalembert played 2,100 minutes last year. Hawes played 1,900. In Hawes' minutes, the team rebounded defensively at roughly a 68% clip. Hawes rebounded 17.7% of defensive opportunities, Dalembert 30.7%. You can't just take [Kings % - Hawes + Dalembert], because Dalembert will take some boards away from the other Kings, too, something Hawes didn't do. But I think you get the point. The Kings rebounded 68% of opponent misses, and they just got a center who upgrades that significantly. This is big.
In terms of team defense, BasketballValue.com's data shows that the Kings defense was actually better when Hawes didn't play in each of the last two seasons, despite the coaches' penchant for smallball. Dalembert has had a positive impact. Dalembert blocks opponent shots almost twice as frequently as Hawes (2.7 per 36 minutes vs. 1.5). Measuring defense is difficult, and Synergy play-by-play data will have to wait until the weekend. But it's really, really safe to say Dalembert is a big defensive upgrade.
What you lose in Hawes is the potential for a better defender and a great big facilitator on offense. The Kings must feel safe in Tyreke Evans' hand on offense, and ready to improve on defense right now. It's a good risk to take.
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I like the move
Kings need more of an presence grabbing rebounds.
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I like it
While I will miss a great Hawes pass that makes me imagine the possibilities to come, I will be screaming less about getting a damn rebound.
Nicely summed up, Tom.
Hopefully the days of matador defense are over.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
::giggle::
…we bang our fists…
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 17, 2010 1:09 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah Nice Article
I like the anti-Hawes part. He was, by far, the only player I couldn’t stand on the Kings. Cousins and sign Raymond Felton.
ailene voisin is wack!
Yeah, this is insanely good
Especially considering the Kings probably wouldn’t have re-signed Hawes next year, since so many teams are ready to overpay for a 7 footer. Obviously Noc wasn’t a part of the future, so essentially we got a year of Dalembert for pieces that may have just walked off for nothing.
I wish Chapu4u the best of luck on the Liberty Ballers boards and look forward to Sammo4me joining us as StR.
rec'd, +1, FTW, This.
by TheJust on Jun 17, 2010 1:12 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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by Aykis16 on Jun 17, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
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by nbrans on Jun 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Noce @ Garcia
“I know. Small huh? It’s the trade off for having big balls.”
the Bene Gesserit rite.
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by SeattleRoyalty on Jun 17, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by Slam_Dunk on Jun 17, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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Andres Nocioni, after learning he has been traded to Philadelphia, prepares to swallow the invisible cyanide pill he keeps in his sock.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 17, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice analysis
I think, basically, that Hawes was the type of big you paired with Kevin Martin, just as Vlade and Peja worked well together. Martin was a slasher, he needed to be set up, etc. etc.
Dalembert is the type of big you pair with Evans, just as Tyrone Hill, Ratliff, and Mutombo and Dalembert himself were the best bigs paired alongside Iverson.
I think this could clear the way for Cousins, another potential skilled-rebounding big who can also score down low, or Monroe, who could be a possibly-better-than-Hawes replacement if you need some offense facilitation.
In any event, a great sign that after many many years the FO finally did realize that you can’t have a soft/nonrebounding front line and hope to win any games.
by nbrans on Jun 17, 2010 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Love the last statement, and I totally agree.
"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant
Right because we didn't win much with
Vlade, Webber and Miller?
:Rollseyes:
Talent, mixed with chemistry wins, period!
Or are you trying to suggest that Vlade/Webber/Miller were soft and not good rebounders?
In which case I’m still confused.
Vlade and Webber averaged close to or over 10 rebs a game in the hayday.
by WhentheKingswinyouwin! on Jun 17, 2010 3:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
CWebb led the league in rebounding his first year with us
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Do you have any clue what type of team the Kings are now?
This isn’t going to be the 2001-2002 team.
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wince...
… at the indirect comparison to Iverson. But agree Dalambert fits with Evans more than Hawes.
by henryclemente on Jun 17, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well nobody can disagree that Tyreke is similar to Iverson
But he’s not an Iverson 2.0. Atleast I hope not.
Agree
Especially with this:
Dalembert is the type of big you pair with Evans, just as Tyrone Hill, Ratliff, and Mutombo and Dalembert himself were the best bigs paired alongside Iverson.
Gets me thinking, though—Prince would be a SF that fits right in with that style as well. Solid defender, doesn’t need the ball to contribute. What could a Udrih/Evans/Prince/Landry/Daly lineup do next season?
With
Cousins, JT, Casspi, and Donte off the bench.
by good as gold on Jun 17, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
dont forget Willie Warren
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know, but I don't think they do too much toward rebuilding the team, in 1 year.
They’re certainly not making us a playoff contender or even a team that goes deep into the playoffs. We go from one of the youngest if not the youngest starting lineups to one with a frontcourt averaging 29 years of age, with 3 expiring contracts. (Dally, Prince, Landry)
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I agree
Cousins skill in the low post is something the Kings need. I compare Cousins to an Al Jefferson type of player.
Thompson, Landry and Dalembert are the Kings primary big men. All three of them lack one thing, the skill and ability to consistently score in the low post. Demarcus Cousins could potentially be that kind of a player.
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I am so excited about this trade
that I have goosebumps on my arms. Fantastic trade that makes so much more sense to me than the Prince trade.
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by Bluejohn on Jun 17, 2010 1:33 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
lots of people keep saying draft cousins
but what do you do with landry and thompson???
they both have talent to start
im starting to feel like their talents are getting wasted…until next year i guess
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Says the guy who wants us to sign Outlaw
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 18, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
You play
them at the 4 spot
"Nobody roots for Goliath"
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by Sactownking9 on Jun 17, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
You start Dalembert and Thompson
Bring Landry and Cousins off the bench.
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Or start Landry and Dalembert
Dalembert could very well make up for Landry’s rebounding/defensive deficiencies.
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Yeah I think that's what they're going for right now
won’t start the rookie big man (Cousins or Monroe) right off the bat, and I think Landry/Daly is a good offense/defense tandem.
This one.
Thompson did fine last season off the bench.
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-John Wooden
Yep
JT is a good dude, but not a starter on a good team.
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I am with you
I would rather have the bigger, better rebounding JT start than Carl, who is obviously a fantastic scorer of the bench.
I hear this argument from time to time with various players
I’ll just say it depends on the makeup of the team. Derek Fisher was statistically one of the worst point guards in the league the last two years. But he fits a role on that team. Kendrick Perkins is inept offensively, so Boston tends to play 4 on 5 for the most part on that end of the floor. But he starts and fits a role on that team.
And both of their teams are in the NBA Finals. Again, it depends on what you have around you.
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Otis, you are right.
What I should have said was “JT is bench player quality on a contending team, and so let’s not be afraid to think of him as fitting in our team long term as a bench player.”
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Either way, that's 24 minutes per game for the four of them...
…when any one of them could reasonably be worth 36 minutes a game.
If we end up with Cousins, I say we trade Landry to a team with an expendable outside shooter; then, start Dalembert at C and Cousins at PF, with Thompson coming off the bench to play at either spot as necessary.
I would never want Dalembert or JT or Landry to play 36 minutes a game
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 18, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I want Landry off the bench...
our 2nd unit needs that scoring punch…he’ll still get close to 30 min a game
Daly will be gone next year any way
thompson will probably come off the bench, landry and daly is a good combo for the kings.
then we need to sign Travis Outlaw, he is unrestricted and would probably start at SF
offer him a 2 year 14 mil deal.
then draft warren with the 33
we’d be set. and i think pairing Warren with tyreke could turn willie into a monster.. like he was Freshman year, who doesn’t like getting a star in the Second Round
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would we sign Outlaw when we have Casspi and Donte?
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 17, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
eh i figure the losses are minimal by trading hawes
if the front offices really felt remorseful/fearful for trading a potentially great big man, they can just draft another one this offseason.
Me too, but I can live with it.
We got rid of two guys, we wanted to see go, in one fell swoop and gained a guy that will immediately make an impact on defense.
Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
-John Wooden
Just want to add some positivism
Maybe they'll send Igoudala instead?
And say he’s Dalembert?
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by Hit4TheCycle on Jun 17, 2010 2:04 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
And if the Kings trade for Prince...
they really upgrade the team defensively when paired with today’s trade. Prince would also bring the Kings another expiring contract after next season. I like how Petrie is quickly changing the identity of the team.
Please no. Can we let the Prince talk drop now?
We don’t need to clear any additional salary cap space and Prince really doesn’t add a whole lot that would make this anything more than a lateral move. If you want to talk trades, sure, lets do it, but lets try to find something that will improve the team, rather than just get rid of a contract because it has been termed “bad”.
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
I don't know
I could see the FO thinking there’s a chance to win more games right away now with Dalembert, and think Prince could push that even further.
If they let us trade Noce again,
I’d greenlight the Prince trade in a heartbeat.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
Garcia
could possibly replace Noce in the deal.
by Mark Olberding on Jun 17, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd like to see this happen, obviously
But I can’t really see them taking on Garcia for Prince straight up even if we’re saving them money and even if we swap picks. Prince is by far the better player, they are basically the same age, and Garcia’s contract is really bad.
The Kings would need more of a sweetener than dropping down to picks, imo, and since Hawes is gone I don’t know who/what else they could do to help the deal.
We don't need Prince hes way too much. end off story
just sign outlaw
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
but winning a few more games this year will neither make us a good team
nor get us to the playoffs.
This will, however, take minutes away from Donte and Omri, two players needing a considerable amount of growth to meet their potential. Thus, we might win a few more games this year, but lose more in the long run, after Prince is gone.
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
You have a point but
lets not forget that it’s pretty important the Kings win more games next year and the year after. I know they are rebuliding and there is a nice young base, but there is pressure to win. They need butts in the seats, they want a new arena, we need to seem desirable to free agents and our own players who will be free agents soon.
by Mark Olberding on Jun 17, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Point taken, but doesn't Prince's v. Garcia's yearly salary argue against you?
A Prince/Garcia swap will cost the Kings millions this year. I don’t think the the draw of Prince will put enough butts in the seats to overcome the salary difference.
Additionally, Garcia can bring the ball up the court in order to give Tyreke/Beno a rest. If either Tyreke or Beno is injured, God forbid, who is going to help bring the ball up the court and direct our offense? I don’t see Prince as a point forward who can fill this role for more than spot minutes.
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
I think the big question would be the Kings intention on that cap space this offseason
If they weren’t planning on making a big pickup this offseason, but are willing to pay those dollars this season and enjoy the relief down the road…I wouldn’t have a problem with that.
I gotta say though, Garcia in this deal doesn’t entice me as much as the Nocioni scenario (obviously out the door now). I don’t think it would thrill Detroit all that much either.
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Very True
I think most people, including me are of the opinion the Petrie is looking towards next off season for various reasons (new CBA, more likely FA targets) but predicting what GP will do is usually a losing bet.
Like I said previously, I think this trade hints at the possibilty they are settling in on their pick of Cousins or Monroe and probably eliminates Detriot from the conversation because of Nocioni being gone.
I’ll roll the dice on trying to guess what Petrie will do and say todays trade throws the Detroit trade out the window and by doing that the Kings are taking Cousins.
by Mark Olberding on Jun 17, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
I think this trade and a solid pick at the #5 is a pretty successful offseason. Talent upgrade and ongoing cap relief works for me.
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2 for 1
taking 2 guys who should not be starting in the NBA and dumping them for a starter who addresses several major weaknesses, like D rebounding and defending the basket, is a huge win for the Kings
and just last week folks were saying that we should buy Noc out, which would be $$ down the toilet
Prince doesn't make us better for a year?
I love Casspi as the future at SF and in no way am I saying Prince is a franchise changer, but I would argue that for a year Prince makes you a better team. A veteran defender / versatile offensive player who has started on a championship team and was a glue player on the last gold medal olympic team might help a little. The stats aren’t overwhelming, but he is worth a few wins, teaching Casspi a few tricks and yes….some cap flexibility if Garcia was thrown in the deal.
With that said, I think today’s trade actually may signal the Kings being sold on Cousins, hence going this direction instead of the Detroit trade.
by Mark Olberding on Jun 17, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I look forward to a big who will finish at the rim next year
Sammy wont back anyone down or shoot a 15 ft jumper, but Reke will be driving all day and when 3 defenders collapse to cut him off a quick pass to SD and we get a quick 2.
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by sac_faithful on Jun 17, 2010 2:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Ball handling could be a key issue this year.
What you lose in Hawes is the potential for a better defender and a great big facilitator on offense.
With a Dalembert/Cousins rotation at the 5, I think the team will benefit greatly if Donte and Omri can improve their ball handling/pick and roll skills. I don’t know if he has it in him, but I would love to see Donte run the pick and roll in a Pierce/Hedo style. I think he has the combination of strength, speed, and craftiness to make it work.
Otherwise, the team definitely needs another ball-handling option on offense. Without one, they risk running a one dimensional offense that relies too heavily on Tyreke/Udrih splitting time at PG.
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
He was the thrid best at running the offense
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No, but we could run the offense through him at the high post as an option.
I like the trade, but our offense definitely loses this dynamic. I don’t think Dalembert will give us the passing/playmaking that would allow him to fill Hawes role as a distributor from the high post.
I guess I was brainstroming ways to encourage growth in our young guys, while opening up new options on offense to take some of the pressure off Tyreke having to handle the ball all the time.
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
Maybe, but I think it's a step away from a high post center and back to more traditional play
playmaking PG’s.
If you don’t have a Center that can bang and hold his own against your opponents bigs, it’s a good strategy to move him away from the basket and run the offense thru him. Which is why the Princeton and Triangle were developed. But, if we’re going to get the biggest badest centers in the league, let the guards do what they do best.
That’s why I think the Kings need another playmaking PG. Or at least a combo guard that can run the offense better than Beno. FA or Trade, not draft
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And away goes the ticking time bomb
that are Spencer Hawes’ knees….
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
We won't have to worry about that one anymore. Not our problemo.
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yes, but Dalembert is also known for making boneheaded moves like taking 15 ft jumpers.
He also complained not only about playing time, but also that there weren’t any offensive plays for him. So if we draft Cousins that would be something to watch for
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He's playing for a new contract.
Wouldn’t one think he’ll be playing to his strengths and keep the bitching to a minimum?
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
Another thing Dalembert brings to the table is his iron man track record
No question in my mind this trade makes the Kings a better team.
by southern oregon on Jun 17, 2010 3:24 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
You had me at
He won’t be shooting threes. He won’t be trying to loft a running hook over Pau Gasol
...
by prowseinthehouse on Jun 17, 2010 4:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Wow he is 29?
I was thinking he was much younger for some reason
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by prowseinthehouse on Jun 17, 2010 4:51 PM PDT reply actions
The Kings are in a *much* better position now, going forward...
than they were 24 hours ago.
The team just improved on defense by a huge leap, and dumped a major salary problem, while adding an expiring contract.
That means Petries’ options are more flexible now in a number of ways, including the draft next week and the free agent market next summer.
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Another thing that this does
that I don’t think I’ve seen anyone talk about is that this opens up some wiggle room with the draft. Now that we don’t have 3 small forwards, it wont be too terrible if our only option is Johnson. This way we don’t have to force him to play the 2 spot. I think this helps keep more options for us in the draft and we don’t have to worry about the position so much anymore and just grab who we think is best overall.
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by prowseinthehouse on Jun 17, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I love this trade,
There is no question in my mind we came out way ahead on this deal. Hawes skills just don’t mesh well with our current line-up.
The interesting thing will be how this affects our draft picks.
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He won’t be trying to loft a running hook over Pau Gasol … He won’t be dropping passes backdoor to slashing wings.
Not so fast, my friend! Dalembert does some extremely stupid ish — the Shelden Williams outlet pass in game 2 of the Finals is his specialty. However; he good comes with the bad. Last year he had one of the single best defense rebounding years of all-time (25th to be exact). He’s extremely durable. He’s a funny guy/fun guy to have on your team. And he’s a great weak-side defender. But he will frustrate you to no end on offense. Running hooks, bad outlets, bad attempts at backdoor passes, too many jumpshots, awkward crossovers? He does ‘em all! You’ve been warned.
He doesn't bother me one bit.
I don’t think he’ll create much offense for the Kings Mr Sams. But that’s my opinion.
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How bad could it be?
He took only 6 shots a game last year, and made over half of them. I’m sure that he does some cringe-worthy stuff at times, but if he brings double digit rebounding and blocks a couple of shots a game, I’m OK with with his 1.5 tunrovers and occasional bad shot.
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Love what Sammy D brings to the table — just responding to the implication that he won’t do dumb things. Last year he blocked two of his teammates game-tying/game-winning shot attempts. Who does that?
When it comes down to it, the Kings clearly got the better end of the deal. I’m just giving fair warning that Dalembert is extremely frustrating. It took Philly fans about 8 full years to get over some of the outrageous things he does on the court.
Funny, sounds like he'll fit right in. :)
Running hooks, bad outlets, bad attempts at backdoor passes, too many jumpshots, awkward crossovers?
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