Who Should We Go For in Free Agency; Maybe a Middle Class Rudy Gay
by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 8:48 PM PDT
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PrintThe Kings have 15 mil this offseason and have more than enough money to do a little something. Now that the Tayshaun fiasco is gone, WE CAN FORGET ABOUT IT. So this means we have a chance to do something at small forward. We Don't have a void but this is room for improvement.
If we draft Demarcus Cousins(which we probably are) We should go for Travis Outlaw in free agency. he is unrestricted and would be and immediate upgrade at SF. he is an athletic freak, and can hit the three, (sound like anyone Cough*Wes Johnson*Cough).You know he’ll shoot about 37 percent from beyond the arc, that he’ll finish around the rim when the paint isn’t too crowded and that you can count on him to get a shot off with that one-dribble pullup jumper of his. He is Essentially a middle class Rudy Gay, and i personaly think Rudy Gay is out of the picture, sooooo lets get the next best thing. if we go for him we should offer him a 3 year/18 mil contract. and if that doesn't work out we could Still get Josh Howard(we were going to trade martin for him, so that would be a steal)
Also: if we dont get a combo guard with the 33rd pick (Willie Warren, Terrico White, Jordan Crawford, Dominique Jones and in that order) then we should go after Will Bynumite or Ray Felton.
The thing with will and ray, we would be paying Felton about 4-6 and bynum about 3 million a year, so that means we would still be under cap by a million or two, and now that we got Sammy next year he will leave and that would give us another 15 million. How does that sound.
PG Felton SG Tyreke SF Travis Outlaw PF Landry C Sammy
Bench: Beno, Casspi, Green, Thompson, Brockness monster, cisco, whoever else we get with the 33
Thats a Playoff Contender
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We already have Omri and Donte
Why do we need another 3. If we sign another 3 it will just cut into Omri and Donte’s growth. F that. We need to sign another 2 guard (someone like Anthony Morrow, he would be a nice fit for us)
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Donte can play multiple positions 2, 3, 4
You dont think reke, green, outlaw, landry, sammy would be fun to watch? i understand that donte and casspi are our SF but if we want to win some games NOW, we should pick up outlaw
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Travis Outlaw...
is not an upgrade over Donte or Omri. This signing would be stupid and we would not win any more games with Outlaw. We don’t need to sign any small forwards this offseason.
i just say we invest in a player that has alot of upside, and see if he'd flourish in our system, i think he would
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
And that fine that you disagree
that’s what this websites for right, opinions.
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you are some what obsessed with Outlaw
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I am outlaw
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lol can we sign you at 1.5 mil a year?
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sure be there tomorrow
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
actaully shit, i wouldn't let u touch me for 1.5 a year
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Defensively the 2 was Donte's worse position
In limited minutes he was better at the 4, especially in blocks & rebounds. But, unless PW changes how the Kings play, our SF’s need to hit the 3pt shot and Donte is the best we have from that range.
So, I’d see we need another playmaking PG who can defend not another SF.
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You mean like felton, that was in there
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm a proponent of grabbing Courtney Lee in a salary dump for NJ
Maybe something like Courtney Lee, Humphries, and Yi for our 2nd round pick. Terrence Williams can almost seamlessly step into their SG position; also opens up the 2nd max contract slot they so covet. What do you guys think?
Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!
Courtney Lee is nice, but the Nets might want to hold on to him
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that was their main player they got in that vince carter trade
he’s a nice future piece next to william’s. but that gets me thinking.. what about douglas roberts
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
No way
We can’t get those guys without a multi-year deal I would bet, Outlaw is a good young player who will get a better offer.
Omri and Donte need to play consistent minutes this year, we just can’t prolong or compromise them not developing.
If we go for anything in FA, we go for a guard who plays off the bench to handle the ball an can shoot, like Steve Blake who would probably start.
I think if we get a 3 it would be in the draft since we got a big in Sammy in the trade, but even then we could still pick a big.
But I would be more inclined to think that they would get Hayward or AFA in the draft. Assuming WJ has his guarantee from minny.
Still hope we draft Cousins.
Travis Outlaw Averages 10 points a game and three rebounds; he was traded for Camby for heavens sake
i dont think people are going to offer him more than 7 a year, and he isn’t restricted so we wont overpay him. i once heard that Rudy GAy would thrive in our system. So why don’t we get the next best thing
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't dismiss the fact
And you said it yourself. He is young, athletic, and can shoot from the perimiter.
Do you think he wants to play for a 6 mill over 3 years or 8 mill over 4?
The answer is easy. He is not what we should be going or in FA anyways.
We where just going for a experienced SF in Tayshaun, so why cant we still
best of both worlds
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
it was for salary reasons
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 17, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
no i said we should pay him six a year
3 year/ 18 mil. he would never play for 2 a year
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
Don’t you want too see Greene and Casspi play? They are more athletic and exciting than Outlaw, difference being he has played in the league and developed much like what Casspi and Greene are doing, and than he started showing he was a good player.
I personally think Casspi will be better than Greene, but I think they are both going to be better than Outlaw if they keep getting playing time.
I want nothing more than to see Donte and Casspi to play; i would give them the same minutes. its not like this is the only year to devolp
but if Tyreke is are POINT GUARD of the future then we need a solid player in that could be the guy right next to him, we could still play them but Donte and Casspi and very versatile, they can play multiple positions. I WANT TO TURN DONTE INTO OUTLAW, WHAT BETTER WAY THEN HAVING HIM ON OUR TEAM.
i just want to have a big lineup to create mix matches .
how does this sound
PG Evans SG Outlaw SF Green PF Landry C Thompson/Sammy
and have casspi be 6th man.
YOUTUBE TRAVIS OUTLAW AND TELL ME THAT GREENE AND CASSPI ARE MORE EXCITING! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
All caps doesn't help
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 17, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
its helps for me
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I like your sig line
But I think you should know, your parents are being sarcastic.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 18, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
What's Sarc, sacr, sarcas...
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, that almost makes me like you.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 18, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
alright, im here all week
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
We were looking for sarcasspi i belive.
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you kidding me
1) Caps is on the left of the keyboard.
2) if he is our PG, and we need someone to run with him, than why another 3 when we can use maybe, idk…a SG?
3) I am going to Youtube myself in my backyard. I am going to dunk a shit ton and shoot hecka 3’s and make a video and say “Hey, im a beast, draft me over Wall”
And all this on an 8 foot hoop. Highlights are nothing, they show what all athletes are able to do and that is make plays.
Try maybe Anthony Morrow, a cheap and talented you SG who can stroke it, and we can continue the debate of this. But we DO NOT need another wing, though we have interest in some in the draft, Outlaw is not the guy.
We can put him at SG, We Can put Greene at SG, we can put casspi at SG
we shouldn’t even be catagorizing basketball players. its just two letters. he would let us be able to put a huge lineup on the floor, and still be able to be quick, run the floor, and make shots.
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Greene or Casspi are bad choices at SG
you are setting them up for failure to get a 6th man.
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 17, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
why would they fail
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Well for starters have you seen Greene try and drive to the hoop or in fact dribble the ball by another guard
He can’t do it. Also Casspi flat out doesn’t have the lateral quickness to keep up with guards. They are put into positions of weekness here. I would fear they would regress big time if they keep playing minutes at the 2 spot. Greene was okay at doing spot D there but that is about it. Heck the only reason Udoka got minutes late last year at the SG and SF was because of Casspi’s struggles on defense. Just a bad bad idea.
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 17, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
So three SF's is too much?
i dont think so. but when people say we could use tayshaun, it’d work out?
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
it was for salary reasons
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 17, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
so if we got prince, we wouldn't use him?
since it was for salary reasons?
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
No we would use him I'm sure
but that would not be the point of the trade. We wouldn’t have done it primarily because we would use him.
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 18, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
so hypotheticly,
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
scroll down the page a little bit.
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
and not many people thought it would work out mind you
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 17, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
tyreke needs someone he can kick the ball out to to take a three
and an athletic freak comes with him, free of charge
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
We have that
In Donte or Casspi. They both project too be at least average perimiter shooters.
Just drop Outlaw, he would not work with this Kings team. He should go to a team that really has a need their such as the Clippers or just sign with the Wolves. He doesn’t want to sign with us and play limited minutes so other young players can develop.
there you go
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
If you saw Tyreke Evans running down the court, you wouldn't want to see this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pae5GLy-9Zc&feature=related
Mind You
Best Possible Signing: Rudy Gay
Remember, best-case scenario for the Kings, not for Rudy…nor it’s not the most likely scenario.
Sacto has plenty of cap space and could use another playmaker on the wing. Gay provides athleticism, scoring, and thrives in transition, meaning he should thrive in the Kings’ up-tempo system.
A PG-SG-SF combo of Tyreke Evans-Omri Casspi-Rudy Gay? A frightening image for the slower, methodical teams of the Western Conference.
-Bleacher Report Correspondent
We need an uptempo offense and he is the next rudy gay with tyreke next to him. with better three, mind you.
ARENT WE SWITHING TO HIGHTEMPO ANYWAY
usually athletic people help
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
This is all wrong.
You have the wrong idea of how they want to change.
If they wanted to go up-tempo we would not get a guy like dalembert, or Cousins for that matter in the draft. Monroe can’t run either.
We are not going to a full up tempo offense. It would just be nice to have an actualy SG with Tyreke if he decides to run the floor.
Outlaw is a good player, but he is a role player more than likely.
Rudy Gay is a nice player too, but not nice enough to spend the kind of money on him he thinks he should get.
FYI, I don’t look at youtube videos, they have no relation to any point we are trying to make.
I will show you a guy who dunks without jupming and you might ask us to sign him too, except he is horrible.
Casspi could run SG
and Sammy is athletic, he’s not slow. with that athetic of a lineup, why wouldnt we?
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
could you please explain to me why you think Casspi can play as an NBA SG?
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 18, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You keep making the same argument
Have you watched him run the floor with philly?
We have a line-up already suited except for the point position.
Felton is a nice pickup.
Felton
Reke
Donte
Landry
Sammy
Outlaw does not fit in that equation.
And Casspi would get devouered by quicker and stronger SG like Roy, Bryant, Gordon, Monta Ellis, etc…
He did a decent job on LeBron in a game this year, but that is because you play off him and let him try and shoot, which you can’t make him do every time anyways.
what about post up game, usually u have and upper hand when your bigger than someone
but sometimes im wrong
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly have you ever seen Greene and Casspi play?
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 17, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
no i dont have a TV
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
outlaw has some crazy shi+ on youtube
what wrong with a SF that is a freak and can shoot the three, i think the kings could use a player that can be consistant, unlike that one guy… whats his name again… i knew it yesterday :)
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
hmmmmm
My best advice then is to either find a feed online with games or learn how to be an expert with advanced statistics because alot of these arguements are based on nothing but sports cliches. If you don’t have a tv obviously it’s understandable but you probably want to research some of these players.
I am currently without cable myself so I am going to be looking for an alternative as well.
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 17, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
One day
We will be able to watch games on this website so everyone can enjoy their sports teams.
Also, if you have xbox360, ESPN is getting a deal with them so you can watch any team play on any sport if you have a subscripiton to xbox live.
So if you don’t, you could do taht.
no i am messing with you
last season i had tivo so i watched evrygaame, usually more than once, i feel bad for you wally, i dont know how i would live. i have to use this godamm website so i dont lose my mind not watching the kings. at least im going to the draft party!
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
if you watched every game then why did you think Omri and Donte could consistently play SG?
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 17, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
i never said consistantly but i think donte could play that if we needed
but i think if we were to go with a big lineup, if would throw of teams guarding us. that is all
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
how would it throw them off?
Donte can’t dribble drive and he doesn’t have many post moves. He may be alright defensively on some of the guards but that is about it.
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 18, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Sneaky Sneaky
"So your a Yank? Thats ok, were all just people. People are all the same. But we like Canadians better." - Guy at the grocery store. "wow"
Lmao
No TV?
Never seen Greene or Casspi play. But you d love to replace them with Travis Outlaw.
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it was a joke but alright
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Comparison
Outlaw: 9.1PPG 3.6RPG 1.0APG 0.5SPG .391FG%
Greene: 8.5PPG 3.1RPG 0.9APG .441FG%
Casspi: 10.3PPG 4.5RPG 1.2APG .446FG%
They both played less minutes than him, and had better numbers. They shot just as good as he did from 3 and averaged more steals which means “better defense”
We have two better options already than him.
outlaw plays 21 minutes a game
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Which
Says a lot about how much more productive Omri and Donte are.
And if he is so good, why is he only playing those minutes? Because he is off the bench maybe, and I really don’t think we need another potential 6th man in the form of a SF.
He still has upside, you never know what players can turn into. i bet he'd thrive next to tyreke at the SHOOTING GUARD POSITION
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He is not a shooting guard
setting him up for failure and treating all your players as just assets.
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 17, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
how do you already know if he's going to fail. what if i already know he's going to be an Alllstar
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
hence the screen name
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
He isn't
He would have already shown more flashes. He has been in the league for a couple years more than our SF’s.
We just don’t need a logjam and he can’t play the 2. And it is important to place a player in a position they can keep up with.
I think FA's will be like last year
May, Udoka, Mason, vetrans that will play for the minimum. Or mabye even 1 undrafted player
Phil Jackson, after treatment for a kidney stone "When the anesthesiologist leaned over me, he said "We named your kidney stone Kobe because it's not passing."
Free Agents:
Anthony Morrow:
Ime Udoka:
Jon Brockman:
Roster:
Reke/Beno/33rd pick
Morrow/Garcia
Greene/Casspi/Udoka
Cousins/Landry/Brockman
Dalembert/JT
KINGS WILL BE 10-11 CHAMPIONS
Definitely, we can steal him from the warriors
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Is he unrestricted?
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
No he's restricted, but I think the warriors will let him walk because their whole team is shooting guards : )
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Morrow can shoot the rock
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I agree with this roster idea...
but do you really think Cousins should start over Landry? I say we have him come off the bench to sub for Dalembert. He can learn in the back-up role while Dalembert plays this season for us. I really think we’ll let Dalembert go after this year, saving us salary cap money for 2011. We Have JT who can play both the 4 and 5. We traded for Landry last year for a reason, and I believe it wasn’t for him to be anything less than a starter. After this year Cousins will move into a starting role at C, solidifying our starting 5 for the next few years. Just a thought though.
by RekenHavok13 on Jun 18, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Outlaw
But I don’t think he’s a good fit. He’s at the stage of his career where he probably wants to get in as a regular contributor on a good team. If he were to come to the Kings there is a good chance he gets pushed aside by one (or both) of our younger small forwards. It would be a risky career decision for him to sign a multi-year deal and then lose all his playing time in the middle of his contract.
Out would fur sure start for us
outlaw is like greene he could play multiple position
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:02 PM PDT reply actions
Voted no
He’s primarily a shooter, and not a terribly efficient one (50% career TS percentage). I’d rather see Greene, Casspi or Garcia play.
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i personally think we should trade cisco for a chance to draft hassan
perhaps bucks at the 16
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
what?
How much value do you think Garcia has? Because if we had the 16th pick in this draft we would have to trade Garcia AND the 16th to get rid of his contract. Basically he is considered negative value at the moment.
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 17, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
You dont think minn could use him at all?
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
You think they would trade their 16th pick for him?
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 17, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Garcia
I think he’s lost some respect… He’s a solid number 7 guy with a wicked shot and all around game. Remember how good he was a couple years ago? He just needs to stay healthy and his last injury was legitimately a freak accident.
by Mike_is_awesome on Jun 18, 2010 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions
if we draft johnson of course (its still a possiblilty, low but still)
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 17, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Garcia for the 16th straight up
I would be dreaming if they wanted to do that. Paul george or Cisco…?
Besides
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by White Brocklate on Jun 17, 2010 10:42 PM PDT reply actions
It's the name 'Outlaw' that makes him so sexy for you - isn't it?
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by lietothegirls on Jun 18, 2010 12:20 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Casspi will eat Outlaw alive
Well, with a side dish of humus of course. He is Israeli, after all.
Dunking Dutchman
by RikSmits on Jun 18, 2010 3:53 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Mr. Know It All...
I logged into StR from work just to let you know this idea is stupid. Just FYI.
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i dont think anyone cares what you do in your free time
just for your information
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 18, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
You really should only speak for yourself
Once you get better at that, then you can speak for others.
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by otis29 on Jun 18, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
If
you seriously decided the Kings should sign Travis Outlaw because he had a nice YouTube reel, I don’t think I’m the one whose free time we should be talking about. You just advocated us giving Nocioni cash to a guy that’s worse than Nocioni.
By the way, I hear Gerald Green is available…
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by CaliforniaJag on Jun 18, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Travis Outlaw?
No. Donte and Omri are both better than Outlaw. They are more exciting to watch. Outlaw has good youtube videos?? So does gerald green with his dunking lol We don’t need another SF maybe an SG but not an SF. I think that if the Kings were to go after a SG via Free Agency that they should either sign Anthony Morrow, J.J Reddick, (this one will get some negative feedback) John Salmons. Morrow is a freak. Athletic and can score in bunches. J.J. Reddick saw improvement in Orlando this year towards the end of the season and would be a nice bench player behind Beno/Tyreke. John Salmons is a scorer. There are guys out there the Kings should sign but I don’t think Outlaw is one of them. Go Kings!!
Travis Outlaw averages about a point per shot attempt.
That’s…horrible.
Hopefully we can avoid using FA
By getting Dominique Jones or Terrico White in the second round to give that running mate to Tyreke and Beno.
I think FA is a mid-season option to shore up a weak position or cover injuries.
How many 2nd rounders get minutes on any team
a 2nd round SG is only going to get garbage minutes and won’t play ahead of Evans or Beno.
Most 2nd rounders don’t even make it to their 2nd year. If you want to make the team better now, you trade or sign FA’s after the draft to fill in the holes.
Late 1st rounders and 2nd rounders are kids with potential that you take hoping that they will develop down the road into at least a role player. So, if they do draft a Anderson, Jones or White, they’re still going to look into filling in the needs with FA’s.
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Last year,
2nd rounders that got legitimate minutes include DeJuan Blair, Jonas Jerebko, Marcus Thornton, Chase Budinger, Sam Young, A.J. Price and perhaps even Jon Brockman. Last year was an unusual year for 2nd rounders, though.
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And, Blair wasn't 2nd round talent,
Certainly some 2nd rounders make it in the league. But, most arent like Thornton.
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Right,
but I think that is the point that some are making in regards to Warren and White, and perhaps others. They are 1st round talents that have seen their stock drop. True, Blair dropped because of his suspect knees, while these guys have dropped for their suspect attitudes.
The Kings pick is the 33rd of this draft. It is unlikely that they will get a big rookie contributor here. But it is not impossible.
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Not impossible
just unlikely because most are undersized and they’d need to out play the guards we already have . Isn’t that why Greene and Casspi got so many minutes at the 2. Do, we really want teams switching their SG or SF on to Evans, by playing undersized SG’s? If that ends up being the case, I’d rather see the Kings pick up a playmaking PG and move Evans to the 2.
At the risk of repeating myself, which never stopped me before, in the year of the big man draft I see Brackins having the best chance of contributing on the Kings from the 2nd round.
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Still
They have 1st round ability. Terrico White could easily develop into the steal of the draft.
i wonder if he will fall
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 19, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
2nd most athletic SG in the in the draft after Henry
He’s still a project, and doesn’t go to the rim enough considering his leaping ability. But a decent enough shooter and has the length to be a good defender if he works at it.
I’d pick him if he falls to 33, but I wouldn’t move up for him.
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Warren has the best chances
his freshman year was amazing, and was considered a top ten pick.
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 19, 2010 2:12 PM PDT reply actions
you ever think he might have been overrvalued?
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 19, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
er overvalued
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 19, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
He was good when
Griffin was the star and he was the 2nd guy.
Warren is under 6'4" with average wingspan and the worst vertical of any SG measured at the combine
He shot under 31% from the college 3 and averaged almost 4 turnovers a game. I’ll pass.
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but with tyreke in, he would probably be handling the ball
so more of a PG
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 19, 2010 3:23 PM PDT reply actions
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