Report: Samuel Dalembert Waived Trade Kicker
by Ziller on Jun 21, 2010 7:56 AM PDT
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Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia reported last week that Samuel Dalembert waived his trade kicker in order to make the swap for Spencer Hawes and Andres Nocioni go through before July 1, so Dalembert's 2009-10 salary is $12.9 million. That leaves the Kings with roughly $17 million in cap space, with the No. 5 pick in the draft already accounted for.
There had been some question as to whether Dalembert waived the trade kicker or not.
Aykis Note:
Samuel Dalembert did not waive his full trade kicker, since that's illegal, but he did waive a significant amount. According to a great update by Sham of ShamSports, and confirmed to me by Larry Coon via Twitter, Samuel's maximum trade kicker of 15% would have given him $1,932,673.35, split over this season and next season (this season's contract doesn't end until July 1st). Effectively, this means that Sam would have been owed $966,337 more next season. Instead, it has been cut down to $365,306 for next season.
Since Kickers are paid in a lump sum as a bonus, he did effectively give up $1,202,061.
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When a player gives up money
to go to another team, it shows that they really want to go there.
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Guess Philly was trying to trade him for 2 years… Sounds to me if he waived the trade kicker, he didn’t want to be there for the last two years
I mean it’s Philly… Who’d actually want to play there? (except of course broke former all-stars)
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Hey, didn't some smart a$$
tell me that trade kicker(s) couldn’t be completely waived?
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by Widowwolf on Jun 21, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I always liked this trade.
Now I love this trade.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 21, 2010 9:18 AM PDT reply actions
Joe Johnson?
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by iashwash on Jun 21, 2010 9:22 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I seriously doubt Johnson is going to the University of Oregon.
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by PhutureKings on Jun 21, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Thats surprising!
Despite losing Miller to Portland, it seems like he was being blamed for all the problems the 6ers had last year, so I could see why he would consider this. But it still seems like a rare occurrance to have an NBA player forfeit that much money, especially to end up playing for a young, losing, small market cow town team.
Hopefully he will be appreciated for the skills he brings to the team, without unreal expectations being placed on his shoulders.
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Wait
So this means we can now bring in LeBron without having to trade Donte Greene? Fantastic!!!
by nobodyinparticular on Jun 21, 2010 9:56 AM PDT reply actions
Now the question is how to spend the Maloof's $17 million.....
once the kings sign their 2 draft picks, there will still be 2 open roster spots on the team to fill. Also, gotta apply the rule that the Kings haven’t signed a FA of note since Vlade Divac so don’t be thinking that we are going to be able to sign one of the top 10 FAs in this market. Plus, I believe that GP is still going to want to have some salary cap freedom when he is finished completing the roster. So basically you are looking 2 FAs that you can get at $6-$7 mil a year. Personally, I would target teams like Orlando with salary cap issues and see if we sign a FA to an offer sheet that they wont match like a JJ Redick.
Mmmm, 6-7 million
Let’s extend Garcia until 2050.
Very decent of you, Mr. Dalembert. We’re as happy to have you as you are to be here!
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by andy sims on Jun 21, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
How about Salmons, he had good playing time here, and might not be a superstar, but definitely wasn’t a scrub(Mikki Moore) Shareef should have done much better but with the Jaw he got screwed.
Judgment day is coming!
heck no on Salmons...
In my opinion, having Salmons on the team would often take the ball out of Tyreke’s hands. Plus, I think Salmons was happy being in Milwaukee and they still have a need for him. Plus, I am not sure, but did Salmons opt out of his contract to become an unrestricted FA?
I was thinking about good players that might be had at the $4-$5 mil range like JJ Redick (Orlando), Luis Scola (Houston), Udanis Haslam (Miami), Kyle Korver (Utah), Anthony Morrow (GS) and George Mason, Jr (San Antonio).
I've added a note about the Trade Kicker to the original post
Samuel Dalembert did not waive his full trade kicker, since that’s illegal, but he did waive a significant amount. According to a great update by Sham of ShamSports, and confirmed to me by Larry Coon via Twitter, Samuel’s maximum trade kicker of 15% would have given him $1,932,673.35, split over this season and next season (this season’s contract doesn’t end until July 1st). Effectively, this means that Sam would have been owed $966,337 more next season. Instead, it has been cut down to $365,306 for next season.
Since Kickers are paid in a lump sum as a bonus, he did effectively give up $1,202,061, a significant amount.
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Question
If we trade SamWow at (or before) the 2010 deadline, does his new team have to pay the full 15% kicker, or is the trade kicker permanently waived (maybe reduced is a better word.) from his contract?
by basketball galactica on Jun 21, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
That's actually a really good question.
I hope he works out here, truly. But if someone looking for cap relief makes a nice offer, are there ramifications in this regard?
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The trade kicker only applies the first time the player is traded
So if Sam is traded again, his money owed will not go up again.
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Thanks! (is there a source? Coon?)
by basketball galactica on Jun 21, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah you can go to Coon's website and find it.
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Interesting.
I was wondering about this. Thanks for shagging the info Aykis.
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by Aykis16 on Jun 21, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I didn't even notice he typed shagging
I’m thinking, “What the hell does austin powers have to do with… oh..”
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