Go Cousins or..........?
by haze0945 on Jun 23, 2010 6:35 PM PDT
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There are 2 positions for bigs, PF & C, and there are 96mins between those 2 positions. If we draft another big with the 5th pick, we would have 4 bigs that could play at least 30min a game. The math doesn't add up.
JT- 31mins
Landry- 37mins (Counting games here)
Dalembert- 26mins
Draftee- Left with only 2mins.
If we draft another big, who loses out on playing time? Everyone's high on Dalembert, who will probably play around 28-30mins a game. And if JT is really apart of our future, why reduce his minutes any further? As for Landry, he's the best low-post scorer we have. If we got Cousins, it would make it easier to part with Landry, but I have a feeling that the Wolves are gonna get him at 4. Favors is more defensive minded, and Monroe, I feel will be Hawes 2.0.
So unless we get lucky & have Cousins fall to us I don't see us drafting a big, at least not with the 5th pick. I have my top 5 like this..........
Wall-Turner-Favors-Cousins-???
If this holds up, the only big man left is Monroe. I like Monroe, but what does he bring to the team that we don't already have or had for the past 3yrs(Hawes)? If he showed that he can be a low-post presence on offense, then I say pick him, but then we'd still be stuck with the problem over playing time. The other options would be to either take Wes Johnson with the 5th pick, or trade down.
Wes Johnson seems like a good choice to play the 2-guard next to Reke, but many feel that he's a 3 more so than anything. So unless we know he can play the 2-guard position, I'd rather pass on him. We already have Donte' & Casspi battling for the start at the 3, and I dont feel he would be able to come in and take the spot from either of them. But if Petrie feels he can play SG, then I'd like picking him at 5.
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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GP will not trade and will not take Johnson
Cousins, Monroe & Favors one will be the #5 pick. Book it Dan O
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If its not one of those 3 I will be absolutely mind bottled.
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What makes you so sure?
Petrie is on record saying that Johnson is a future all star that likely won’t be there at 5. If Favors and Cousins are gone, you think Petrie passes on someone he believes will be a future all-star. I realize again that you can’t believe anything said right now but I think Johnson would be a great pick if he is around.
Because every team in the top 5 needs immediate production, so Johnson won't last to 5.
And, either will Wall or Turner. Which means one of the top 4 will take a big and that only leaves the other 2 bigs for Petrie to pick from.
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The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
I thought you were saying
that Petrie would pass on Johnson if he is available. That is what I was replying to. I agree I don’t think Johnson will be available at 5
How would you say pass on Johnson put him at 2
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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 24, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not that concerned with minute distribution
Reason #1: JT has not yet proven that he can stay out of foul trouble, so take around 5-10 minutes off of his PT.
Reason #2: Carl Landry would make a much better 6th man than starter. He produced identical numbers coming off the bench for Houston in less PT than he did for us. I think he’d make a great spark plug off the bench a la Bobby Jackson.
Reason #3: These are some very big men we’re talking about and it’s likely that one of them may get injured or will need to sit out for a little bit.
Also, if Cousins and Favors are gone to NJ and Phili, I’ve got no problem taking Wesley Johnson. I really think he’d make a really good 2 guard playing with Tyreke. Monroe is about number 7 or 8 on my draft board, mainly because I’m so sick and tired of these soft bigs. If we get a Big Fella, I want him to be a work horse that doesn’t mind banging with the other bigs in the league and making life hell for anyone that wants to come near the basket.
Turner is going top 3, and if the 6er's take him it's possible that NJ takes Johnson.
None of the top 3 can afford to wait for Favors to develop.
In fact, with the addition of Dalembert, the Kings are in the best position to develop Favors.
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The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
I think the math adds up fine
On a good team you need a solid big man rotation.
37min is way too much for Landry to be averaging. He’s the type of player that should be averaging 25min off the bench on a playoff team.
w/ injuries and foul trouble from game to game these things will work themselves out.
Whoever deserves the minutes will get the minutes.
We haven't even worked out Wesley Johnson
That tells me he must have a promise from Minnesota or New Jersey.
When i first heard that Minnesota was set on Wesley Johnson, I thought it was just the Wolves FO running counter-intelligence, but the more I read and hear it seems that there may be a good deal of truth to this statement.
I actually think it’s more likely than not that Cousins falls to us at 5. I am so confident that I bet $50,000 dollars that Cousins is drafted by the Kings. Let’s hope I don’t have to sell my house.
Is there any reason, under certain circumstances, that Landry can't spend short stretches at the 3?
After so many seasons of watching the Kings bigs provide poster fodder for layup drills, I can live with having more bigs than we need.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
I wonder the same thing
Could Carl be quick enough to guard 3’s? He could be like James Worthy. Great post player, average rebounder. He would create a lot of mismatches on the post as few 3’s could guard him but could he guard them on the perimeter?
I'm sure there's some he could guard
especially if we’re talking about bench players. Plus, we now will have a shotblocker or 2 protecting the basket if someone breaks through our perimeter D.
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by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 23, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Good Point
Plus I remember JT playing some 3 in the past so if he can do it, Landry certainly can.
No way..........
either JT or Landry gets minutes at the 3. I only see Greene, Casspi, or CIsco playing the 3.
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I wasn't saying
that JT will get minutes at the 3 now. I was just saying that he has in the past and he is much bigger than Carl. Landry rebounds like a 3 and posts like a 4. That is a problem for us going forward if he really is our starter.
He has no 3 pt game which is the stock and trade of the Kings SF's.`
and I doubt that he can defend most SF’s. He is what he is, which is a guy you get the ball to in close and let him get to the rim and finish. His biggest failing is that when he does get in close he almost never gives up the ball. In 3 years he has never averaged even 1 assist per game.
PW will decide who gets what minutes based on individual performance and opposing team matchups.
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True
But we are not talking about starting him at the 3. Just some minutes here and there. Honestly, he is probably best suited coming off the bench like in Houston because he is undersized and doesn’t rebound or defend well. That makes him a one dimensional player which usually means a spark off the bench.
I could see Landry 25 minutes, JT 30, Dalembert 25 then add in injuries
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Yeah and his head looks like that kid from Family Guy.
They should have used the tall slender lens instead.
The thing that concerns me about another Hawes(Monroe)
Is remember when Spencer was drafted he was suposed to have post moves? When he got to the NBA I think he tried some of them but found out he wasn’t athletic enough, or quick enough to show them off against other NBA big men. Also he was never strong enough to get position in the post against NBA big men. This resorted to Spencer spending all his time on the wing where his jumper was nice but extremely inconsistent.
Monroe has also been compared to Brad Miller. Brad Miller was an all-star early in his career because he was scrappy, he hustled, & he was smart. I know it’s been a long time since we’ve seen it but how else down an extremely unathletic 7 footer average 10 rebounds against NBA big men? When the team started losing Miller lost his hustle & scrappiness, & started relying on the hippy lettuce to cope with losing. Hippy lettuce does not help you on the court.
Now Greg Monroe already has question marks about his motor & hustle. Do we really want a current day Spencer Hawes & current day Brad Miller hybrid? I sure as hell don’t. Maybe a 2003 Brad miller & a 2012 Spencer Hawes, but definitely not current day.
I love beating dead horses.
Monroe isn't a true center although he played one on TV(College)
Monroe isn’t a better Hawes as much as he’s a better Thompson. He can shot the short and mid range jumpers like JT, but he’s better at putting the ball on the floor and driving to the basket where he finishs strong. More PF skills than your typical back to the basket skills of a center. The fact that he’s a good passer, really doesn’t relate to any one position. It just means he’s a player.
As for Spencer, your right about his strenght, but I believe that it was a lack of a real playmaking PG which lead to him not getting enough touches close in to perfect his game in the NBA. As good as his low post skills might have been in college, he was still going against players that weren’t as big or that were stronger than him. A playmaking PG that could have set him up so that he didn’t have to dribble into the paint to make those moves, would have made a major leap in his development. Just the wrong player on the wrong team.
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Go Cousins or go home
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Cousins or..
trade 5th pick & Donte Greene to Clippers for 8th pick (Aminu) and Eric Gordon. The projected line up will be:
G- Evans
G- Gordon
C- Dalembert
F- Aminu
F- JT
We have physical defenders on Evans, Gordon & JT while Aminu & Dalembert swats the ball from the weak side. Fastbreak fiesta baby!
Have to disagree.....
I dont think Aminu will be better than Donte. They share many of the same physical attributes, & we know Donte can shoot.
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Reality about JT
Don’t worry about JT last y ears draft and this years draft represent a breakage with the old GP draft philosophy. Bear with me while I elaborate. Jason was the last of GP’s draft picks with a tendency to reach for players who entice with him with instinctive basketball knowledge and have the dogged blue collar style that Rick Adelman and GP himself had. They also promise but never deliver true atheltecism. They have the brute force of physical strength that fools the average fan and has been the downfall of so many of GP’s draft picks. Stolid journeyman but alas not an athletic one of any of them unitl the drafting of Tryreke. You see athleticism is a complex bio chemical reaction process of modulation and calibration that is not readily visible to the untrained eye. (I would like to go further into an explanation but I fear it would be over everyybody’s head.) Suffice to say I have developed very sophisticated mathmatical systems from which I derive my usually accurate predictions. Jason is the past and GP is not going to draft for him or around him. He is a journeyman and GP is looking for an athletic (as in substantively real) player. This will drive GP in the draft.
I have been running numbers through this special Excel Program that I have set up and I have been working all night on it. I am tired, very tired. So forgive me if I have not gone into the depth the questions have warranted. But I am always happy to explain things if this would be helpful for others.
by Mr. Dave Washington on Jun 24, 2010 2:08 AM PDT reply actions
Tariq Abdul Wahad was athletic as all hell.
Jason Williams was athletic. Chris Webber was athletic, but of course Petrie only “traded” for him. Gerald Wallace was athletic I’m sure. Kevin Martin was athletic. Quincy Douby was athletic.
All of them were better leapers than Tyreke Evans. Please come again when a real useful thought deploys from your brain.
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