Kings Pick Hassan Whiteside With No. 33 Pick
by Tom Ziller on Jun 24, 2010 7:37 PM PDT
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PrintMarshall center Hassan Whiteside was picked No. 33 by the Kings. He worked out twice for Sacramento, including last weekend in a match-up against Greg Monroe and Ekpe Udoh.
I am utterly shocked he was on the board. I figure the Kings front office is, too.
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exactly
What are some options? Mike Miller, Steve Blake, Felton..?
he's more PG
I know i don't know it all... its just what my parents call me
by Mr. Know it all on Jun 24, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
im with it
I’m seeing a team: @ 5 cousins, dali, and whiteside; @ 4 JT, Landry, and Brock; @ 3 Greene, Casspi; @ 2 Cisco; @ 1 Reke, Beno = 11 players still room to go after some depth at the 2 and for me is a pretty good, young, athletic, and long team that will be exciting to watch and can develop into a strong threat i the west..good job GP.
by gaindeyouth on Jun 24, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
my thoughts exactly
I think I know which team “won” the draft today.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
i se the
thunder and th4e kings on a crash course for western finals (in a few years anyway)
I hope the Kings trade Whiteside.
No point in having 5 bigs.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Or 6 bigs with Nessie around
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 24, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
thats why im a little shocked they took him
unless this basically means Sammy’s here for only one year
Why pick a 2nd round guy based on a replacing a multi year starter in the NBA?
And when that starter who is has no reason to slow down any time soon.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I think it was a value pick
Whiteside was considered 1st round talent. Getting him in the 2nd is a steal
"I'm too weird ta live but much too rare ta die"
by aKingisBored on Jun 24, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
It's only a steal if the Kings get something for him down the road. We'll see.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
BPA Pookey
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
by MustangMBS on Jun 24, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Means little to me in the 2nd round.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It means everything.
You always draft the BPA. Always. If I was God, that would have been the first commandment, and anyone that did elsewise would go to basketball hell.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
by iashwash on Jun 24, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Basketball hell... you mean the Clippers?
"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant
by Ice_9ine on Jun 24, 2010 10:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Wait, what?
Then what else are you looking for in a 2nd Round Pick?
Most don’t pan out anyway . . . you can’t worry about positional need at this point.
Worst possible fit for your team obviously,
sheesh
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 24, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
And in other news, I hope I don't win the lottery, because I don't want to pay
so miuch in taxes.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
by Holmdel on Jun 24, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was holding down my sarcasm key. Were you?
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
It's just a second rounder though
By the way, Dalembert isn’t the only FA after this year
Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind if they trade him but I don't think they necessarily have to
Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
dingdingdingding
I think that’s what’s up
by TheFifthMookie on Jun 24, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
absolutely...
It’s insurance, and you can never have enough bigs. he’s gonna take 2 years prob so relax everyone, we’re not looking for any minutes for this guy next year
Dannyboy
Or put him in D-League
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
This is the best Idea I think.
No clue how things will look after next summer, Landry and Sammy will both be FAs with a new CBA in place. Might as well develop this guy in Reno, might need him later.
What is the project prediction on Whiteside?
I would put it at 3 years (same as Thabeet, same as Jordan Hill) and most of the other tal thin bigs in this draft (Alabi, Varnado, etc). The Kings have time to store him and shape him up.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 24, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I imagine they'll do this
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Trade JT
For Jr Smith
I know i don't know it all... its just what my parents call me
by Mr. Know it all on Jun 24, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah because that's a great idea.
Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
His parents were very sarcastic.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
Can we trade you for JR Smith?
Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!
by Shizzo on Jun 24, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hope you're kidding
remember Simmons’ rule “one headcase is fine, but two isn’t because they might hang out”
#vfettkefordraft
by vfettke on Jun 24, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Screw you pook
I hope the Kings keep Whiteside. 5 bigs is perfect.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
Yeah I'm the jerk here
Go Hassan Whiteside!
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Thank you for correcting your ill manner, it is most appreciated good sir.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
I think Whiteside spends the year in the D-league
Then depending on how next summer works out w/ Dalembert and Landry then he comes in and starts playing.
The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"
Don't worry
Dalembert and Laundry both can’t be part of the Kings’ long term future. Whiteside is a project. What do you expect him to do? Be productive from day one? Dalembert should be a good mentor, during Whiteside’s first season.
Back from VB
I think the Kings are thinking next year, Whiteside develops this year and then takes over as back up center when Dalembert is not resigned. Next year , if Cousins is what we think he is, its JT and Landry and Cousins with Whiteside as his back up. Brock will be the 5th. I think they are think a season in advance..
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
Im with you on this one
Except who knows if we keep Landry, I like him, but I would worry about overpaying.
by MichaelMack on Jun 24, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point I'm wondering how Sammy D is going to respond even in a contract year.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I hope we trade landry or Jt
you know, get a real SG
I know i don't know it all... its just what my parents call me
by Mr. Know it all on Jun 25, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
EASILY!
My conclusion: All the experts and GM’s are doing a lot of guessing from their A$$es. Well I’m sitting on mine right now about to do the same, so excuse me if I pause occasionally to lift a cheek to check for any obvious emanations of genius.
-lietothegirls
by Noble_Bloodlines on Jun 24, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
yea i keep em
And d-league him, he could be steal of draft. Besides Cousins
LaMarcus Aldridge is the most over rated and over paid player in NBA. Tyreke Evans will be better than Brandon Roy this year.
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 24, 2010 7:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Unbelievable
Two best centers in the draft at #5 and #33. You can’t pay for this kind of luck. But WE EARNED IT.
by nbrans on Jun 24, 2010 7:39 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Yeah I would have been happy with either Whiteside or Cousins
and the Kings got both!
"I'm too weird ta live but much too rare ta die"
by aKingisBored on Jun 24, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Now trade back into the second round, and get Warren
I know i don't know it all... its just what my parents call me
by Mr. Know it all on Jun 24, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
That’s a lot of front court we just drafted.
So what scared everyone off from Whiteside? I see some of the stiff centers that were picked before him, and I can’t imagine there was anything so glaring on this kid you wouldn’t rather have his potential.
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
Honestly, this draft was all over the board with talent
After the top 5 it was really about what guys fit best where. A lot of solid role players. I think what happened is that he was projected anywhere from 10-20. So those teams were the ones that took serious looks at him, but chose to go in different directions. Some of the lower first round teams may not have done their research so they skipped him. Kings got lucky
#vfettkefordraft
The rumor is severe ADD- no I'm not joking.
I can’t believe a basketball player slid like this because of ADD but that’s what the talking heads have put out on twitter.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
Sam Amick put it out
It’s really not worth reading. that’s what Sam tweeted.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Still an interesting tweet
I thought teams all received the same medical reports on draft prospects.
Good question.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Some teams worry about that stuff, some don't.
The Niners took Nate Davis in the 5th round because he is dyslexic. 3rd round talent with a pro body, just with a learning disability. It is a slower process but ADD should be manageable.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
I'm betting I can get that interview now!
LOL! I love this day! Cousins and Whiteside? That’s beyond what I thought could happen.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
by Aykis16 on Jun 24, 2010 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Nice to know that our luck can change.
I want to thank my psychiatrist. - Ron Artest, June 17, 2010, after winning NBA Championship.
Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
- John Wooden
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
I agree.
This is ridiculous good fortune, especially for us Kings fans. Just shows we had it coming.
"We're trapped inside the matrix, forced to play our hand. We're filled with so much hatred, the kids don't stand a chance." -- B.o.B. (aka Bobby Ray).
by PhutureKings on Jun 24, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
This was a steal.
This draft is an embarrassment of riches right now.
We absolutely keep Whiteside and work with him. We can spend some money to bring in a SG or PG, or sign one after the draft.
Jerome Randle anyone????
by Hoops Mike on Jun 24, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
this trade talk is killing me...
Keep him, develop him, he wont eat minutes….great value pick, similar to D. Blair last year as he could have been a late lottery. What were the other teams’ “red flags” on this guy by the way??? How did he drop to Petrie “w/ baited breath”? Can you imagine the Kings warroom when Whiteside was available @ 33? They are drinking tonight.
Dannyboy
So glad I'm moving back to Northern CA in August.
My brother and I are already talking about season tickets. I’m excited for next year
If incessant and obsessive discussion about a basketball player qualifies someone as being gay, then everybody – and I mean everybody – who posts on this site is totally flaming. - Corbin
If they can trade Whiteside for....
Jerome Jordan and Terrico….
by getPGwithbounce on Jun 24, 2010 7:41 PM PDT reply actions
2 years of excellent drafting
Thank you Petrie, In Petrie we trust
After Dalembert expires, Whiteside will be our Backup C
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
There is a winner to the draft contest.
Someone actually named Cousins and Whiteside.
I want to thank my psychiatrist. - Ron Artest, June 17, 2010, after winning NBA Championship.
Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
- John Wooden
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
thizboy27
He joined May 01, 2008, last login June 22, 2010, posts 0, comments 4.
So Thizboy has been a member for more than two years, made a total of 4 comments, and won the Sactown Royalty Draft Contest. Puts the rest of us to shame.
Way to go Thizboy!
I want to thank my psychiatrist. - Ron Artest, June 17, 2010, after winning NBA Championship.
Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
- John Wooden
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
Well, since I'm becoming a Kings fan now....
THIS IS AWESOME!!!
"I hate to recommend drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson.
Were you a warriors fan?
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
seriously
odd
Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes.
But I’ve had enough with the Warriors FO.
"I hate to recommend drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson.
Welcome my good man
Go Kings,
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
Thanks.
I think I’m a pretty good fan. I’ll defend the players on my team to death, I’ll gladly get in barfights against opposing team fans if so desired, and I’m Australian so I bring a cool accent and hot women.
"I hate to recommend drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson.
I’ll defend the players on my team to death
Well, until the front office pisses you off anyways.
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
I didn't say I'd defend the FO.
"I hate to recommend drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson.
But you bailed on the players AND the front office
Sorry, I’m not going to give you kudos for bailing on your team.
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
by otis29 on Jun 25, 2010 4:55 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I'm from Sydney.
"I hate to recommend drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson.
Yeah they really screwed up last year with Curry (sarcasm)
Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Even the biggest retard has to get the odd one right.
"I hate to recommend drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson.
by Screwfish on Jun 24, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Welcome screwfish
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
Oh yeah, I almost forgot that we have him.
I want to thank my psychiatrist. - Ron Artest, June 17, 2010, after winning NBA Championship.
Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
- John Wooden
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
I like him when he doesn’t shoot.
"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
METS: My Entire Team Sucks.
by Scott Coleman on Jun 24, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
unless it's coming back from 35 down
If incessant and obsessive discussion about a basketball player qualifies someone as being gay, then everybody – and I mean everybody – who posts on this site is totally flaming. - Corbin
I like him when he isn't on the free throw line...
"Hard work always beats talent when talent doesn't work hard." - Kevin Durant
by recklessmonkey on Jun 24, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hear he is training with Urijah and is gonna do MMA.
"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant
by Ice_9ine on Jun 24, 2010 10:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Jose | 3030FM.COM jose3030
Adam Silver & Hassan Whiteside share a BRO Handshake – GIF http://twitpic.com/1zp6ij
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Kings might just make it to the playoffs.
I want to thank my psychiatrist. - Ron Artest, June 17, 2010, after winning NBA Championship.
Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
- John Wooden
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
by Slam_Dunk on Jun 24, 2010 7:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Too bad they aren't in the East
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
by otis29 on Jun 24, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So are we done for the day? I only heard about our 5 and 33 pick.
Do we have any more picks?
by TheFNG on Jun 24, 2010 7:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
We have a ton of big men now
Landry, Thompson, Dalembert, Cousins, Whiteside, (Brockman)
"I have missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I have lost almost 300 games. On 26 occasions I have been entrusted to take the game winning shot...and missed. And I have failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why... I succeed." Michael Jordan.
Dont forget the Yeti!!
Seriously though, who on our current roster COULD one describe as soft? This team will punch some folks in the mouth! Plus we’re crazy long now. I’m seriously optimistic!
by TheFNG on Jun 24, 2010 7:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Two great picks
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
I'm with it. I'm with it good.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
Take the Knicks picks for Whiteside....
Willie Warren and Jerom Jordan…
by getPGwithbounce on Jun 24, 2010 7:48 PM PDT reply actions
Christmas in June!
Hopefully there will be some minutes for Whiteside. He might have to fight for scraps but if that makes him hungry to improve faster then he won’t be so much of a project.
by Kevin Conroy on Jun 24, 2010 7:49 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
WTF OMG DMC !!!!!! AND HASSAN WHITESIDE
Having toooo many talented bigs is never a problem. Im sure there may be some player movement. Whiteside was mentioned in lottory range for most of the last two months. Kings went from soft front line to DAMMMMNNN!!!!!!
It's all Jim Les' fault
by nakaisgod on Jun 24, 2010 7:50 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I reke'd this
because it reflects my sentiment but at a higher volume
by TheFifthMookie on Jun 24, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
NEVER TOO MANY TALENTED BIGS...........
You got that right.
We are now the tallest team in the league. We went from a team that had NO shot-blocking to a team that should be outstanding in that regard. Rebounding should also be a strength.
This is genuinely exciting. We DO NOT have too many bigs.
it's HASSAM!!
If incessant and obsessive discussion about a basketball player qualifies someone as being gay, then everybody – and I mean everybody – who posts on this site is totally flaming. - Corbin
by chancelot on Jun 24, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
Or we make a trade to clear some space aka landry packaged with someone for a SG I’m not saying I’d do it just saying always a chance.
by dj3ptspecialist44 on Jun 24, 2010 7:54 PM PDT reply actions
WHAT A STEAL!
This draft is working out wonderful for the Kings. Whiteside could end up being a fantastic player a few years from now. BPA, IMO.
Kings will have a great Summer League front court. Cousins and Whiteside could complement each other great as 4 + 5.
Im giddy
This draft is too good to be true.
Let's fucking go baby. This is my happiest draft ever.
Holy shit I am ecstatic.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
Geoff Petrie is still one of the best GM's in the NBA
Adding Tyreke Evans, Omri Casspi, DeMarcus Cousins and Hassan Whiteside in a 12 month span has re-built and re-vitalized the Kings franchise!
khandor
by khandor on Jun 24, 2010 7:58 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
agreed
If incessant and obsessive discussion about a basketball player qualifies someone as being gay, then everybody – and I mean everybody – who posts on this site is totally flaming. - Corbin
I LOVE this pick
The guy has great potential to be a solid player.
I even commented on Kings flix that he’s a guy the Kings should look in picking up. Also, he can play the 3 from what I’ve seen.
"It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV. But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns. Also he got a race car. Is any of this getting through to you?"
Trade?
Trade Whiteside while he has value?
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
I would be okay with it if there was a guard we can play now
Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
What about trading Whiteside to Denver for Ty Lawson?
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
I don't think Petrie likes having people hang up on him
Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Nuggets are actually targetting Biedrins for KMart right now anyway
Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Whiteside has a shit load of value right now
Considering he was the 33rd pick and pretty much everyone passed on him. We will have to wait for our fruit to grow.
The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"
No this is what you gotta do
You have to plant a seed, then you let the seed grow into a plant, then you f*ck the plant
...
by prowseinthehouse on Jun 24, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
suits???
did anyone notice both COUSINS and WHITESIDE’S SUITS. They both got on Kings colors. WEIRD!!!
by Kenneth256 on Jun 24, 2010 8:01 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
so did Aldrich
Maybe Lavender shirts are just in style.
by TheFNG on Jun 24, 2010 8:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
maybe
all the bigs knew the purple teams needed big men?
by WiltonDeportes on Jun 24, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
with all the young guys on the team..
I am happy that we haven’t traded Cisco… His leadership will be needed in the locker room and on the floor.
"Hard work always beats talent when talent doesn't work hard." - Kevin Durant
You may be right
But, they don’t have a lot of veteran leadership (free agent signing maybe) and He helped Omri immensely last season.
"Hard work always beats talent when talent doesn't work hard." - Kevin Durant
by recklessmonkey on Jun 24, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
Tell Omri how overrated Cisco’s leadership is. Sorry, but that was just dumb.
"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"
Sammyp831.
by SavageBeast on Jun 24, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm with Savage!
You need veteran leadership and Cisco has it.
The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"
Not only that
but he may be your starting SF this season.
SF depth chart if you’re looking for results:
- Cisco
- Udoka
- Omri/Donte
SF depth chart if you’re looking for “player development”:
- Omri/Donte
- Cisco
- Udoka
My guess is it will fall somewhere in the middle and probably depend mostly on how well Cisco plays. He could be a candidate for Comeback Player of the Year.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
Depends on what PG/SG(s) we sign
Cisco may be required to provide backup at the 2 at least and maybe in a 3 guard rotation.
Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 25, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
How do you know?
Personally, I think most folks here UNDERRATE Garcia’s contributions.
I want him on this team.
I think you are right Mike
High character guys have a lot of value.
by MichaelMack on Jun 24, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That's where I am on Cisco
He’s our glue guy, a keeper
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2010 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions
People are really sleeping on Dalembert.
The guy could easily average a double double this year with 3 blocks a game. He’s gonna get a ton of fast breaks for Reke.
I wonder how Brockman is gonna play any minutes tho. Shame. Gotta have hustle guys.
JT and Landry hustle
and are very talented
by MichaelMack on Jun 24, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Last time in the lottery
We won’t be in the lottery for the next 5-8 years barring a trade or injury. If Cousins wasn’t available I would have settled for trading down and getting Whiteside. Kings are going to play Mike Singletary basketball and punch some fools in the mouth!!
LaMarcus Aldridge is the most over rated and over paid player in NBA. Tyreke Evans will be better than Brandon Roy this year.
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 24, 2010 8:06 PM PDT reply actions
Woah... I wouldn't go that far buddy.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
we are lottery next year....
houston was 42 and 40 and in the lottery….kings won 25 games last year….we might get to %500 if we’re very lucky but that is still lottery in the west
Your alittle negative buddy
Tone it down
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
agree though
the West is very very tough
Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course we're in the lottery next year.
You mistake realism for negativism.
We will be in the lottery, and we will be greeted there as liberators.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
by andy sims on Jun 24, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agree
Somewhere in the 10th – 14th spot
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
And somehow still grab the BPA.
yea, i’m feelin cocky right now
Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!
That is one man's opinion.
One that this man does not share. Dominant big men which Cousins will be and Whiteside might be aren’t easy to find. Whiteside will be a great backup for cousins in a couple of years.
LaMarcus Aldridge is the most over rated and over paid player in NBA. Tyreke Evans will be better than Brandon Roy this year.
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 24, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Poor Jason...
I officially floccinaucinihilipilificate Drew Gooden, Gerald Wallace, DeJuan Blair, Scott Brooks, the Los Angeles Clippers, and the internet!
by White Brocklate on Jun 24, 2010 8:08 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Why poor Jason?
He’ll be running the backup 4-5 positions, playing significant minutes for an up and coming team.
by tomroadrunner on Jun 24, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats exactly what he was meant to do.
"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant
by Ice_9ine on Jun 24, 2010 10:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Reke and Omri last year, and DMC and Whiteside this year
The Kings are on the come up…
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
He has Herpes
Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Herpies?
Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Never knew Ricky Rubio was Hermes
Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!
by Shizzo on Jun 24, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
According to Amicks twitter
samickFanHouse
A scout told me Whiteside fell because of “a severe case of ADD,” but Petrie said his medicals were fine and that ADD wasn’t part of them.
Scot Pollard for President
There has to be something. He struggled to stay in school. I don’t think a mental disorder is a huge problem in the NBA.
A mental disorder isn't a huge problem to me, if he LOVES the game.
If he loves playing basketball, thoroughly thoroughly loves it, it should be fine. Otherwise, I certainly fear for his focus and work ethic.
Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!
Plus he will be asked to be a role player most likely. I think I am more than okay with a role player having severe ADD
Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
What's the best part about drafting Hassan Whiteside?
Hey, wanna ride bikes?
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
by JediLeroy on Jun 24, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
Rec'd this yet I'm horrified at the same time
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
I don't get this.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
The original joke goes:
How many people with ADD does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Hey, wanna ride bikes?
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
We just became
one of the toughest teams in the NBA. Guys are going to get banged up playing the Kings. A good free agency guard pickup and we could pull out a 7 or 8 spot in the playoffs.
Things are looking up and I mean that literally.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by nothingbutnet on Jun 24, 2010 8:12 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Definitely, we need a shooter now, Anthony Morrow anyone?
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
Morrow might be cheaper
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
And better.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
Younger too, I think
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
Morrow heaving from 3
would truly be a sight to see.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jun 24, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats a good call
Though I think GP makes a run at N8te.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jun 25, 2010 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Nate would certainly add some sizzle to the steak.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
Only as a bench player
If Nate Robinson is our starting back court mate with Tyreke, we have some serious issues. He is a good spark off the bench, thats about it really. Morrow would be a solid fit next to Tyreke.
Tommy Kelly's ass won us that game against Denver!
He would fit in, I think.
"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant
by Ice_9ine on Jun 24, 2010 10:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If Whiteside can play any, it's gonna be a serious block party.
the guy averaged over 5 blocks a game at Marshall. And Dalembert having veteran center blocking skills?
If Im the Maloofs, im using “Block party!!!” as the theme for at least one little advertising campaign.
But of course … rebounding will be nice for a change, too.
by VirginiaBlue on Jun 24, 2010 8:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I can't believe Lance Stephenson is not picked yet?
Maybe if he goes undrafted, Petrie can pick him up!
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
Who is he, what does he do, and why do you like him?
Mostly answer the last one, already googling the first too.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
I'd rather pass on Stephenson...
I don’t want half of the “Gunnin’ for that #1 Spot” cast.
If incessant and obsessive discussion about a basketball player qualifies someone as being gay, then everybody – and I mean everybody – who posts on this site is totally flaming. - Corbin
by chancelot on Jun 24, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stephenson is a douchebag
burned Arizona last year.
"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
METS: My Entire Team Sucks.
by Scott Coleman on Jun 24, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I know there was reported attitude problems...
But he could become an excellent shooting guard
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
Despite an amazing draft
I can’t help but think “man, if only we had kept Martin.”
And you just shat all over my evening.
Bastard… I was just starting to get over that.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
You're not a Debbie Downer are you?
I want to thank my psychiatrist. - Ron Artest, June 17, 2010, after winning NBA Championship.
Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
- John Wooden
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
Then we wouldn't have cap space and Landry, and our team is not "Soft" anymore, it's full of "Bangers" now
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
by slamson on Jun 24, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Today's a Great Day!!!
14 feet of center will all kinds of talent, potential, and nasty get-that-weak-shit-outta-here mojo.
Spencer who???
by bench_blob on Jun 24, 2010 8:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Spencer Who indeed
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
Well, if you count JT and Whiteside as centers, you get 27 feet 8 inches.
"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant
by Ice_9ine on Jun 24, 2010 10:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Spencer who?
Tough as nails spence that’s who.
"And Solskjaer has won it!"
by 'tough as nails' spence on Jun 25, 2010 3:12 AM PDT up reply actions
What to do with WHITESIDE
Can we trade him in a package or a 3 team trade to acquire another guard?
Do we develop him as a back-up, or maybe even starting alongside Cousins?
I am so glad he fell to the Kings, I would love to see if they could keep him and make him useful, but I see him getting traded for some guard help.
Keep Whiteside
Backup Center after Slammy D leaves…
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
Keep him wait for him to develop
I bet Petrie is working the phones for another 2nd rounder or a gaurd who has been picked already. I’m sure he had no idea Hassan would fall.
I love beating dead horses.
A steal
He has to work hard to get a contract from the Kings. If ever he does, he can develop his game during practice and probably can pick up a few pointers from Dalembert and copy his game. Kings also have an option to trade him or develop him in the d-league. Best of luck to him.
Let me point to you where you stole my thunder b!tch @$$ Kobe ~ Eddie
Remember Woj
said Richards wouldn’t fall past the Kings at 33. LOL.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jun 24, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Where's a good place to see all of todays transactions?
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
I saw the DMC pick, but wasn't able to check in on the draft until now.
I think we can collectively say “Holy Shit!” Now it’s time for us to speculate what the front office intends to do with all these bigs.
I suspect we’re going to keep Dalembert, Cousins, and Whiteside. We may see Landry or Thompson packaged with Brockman to another team for a dependable shooting guard in some sort of sign and trade….maybe with Ronnie Brewer, JJ Redick, or Anthony Morrow.
I don’t know the financials of this deal, but I’d assume they’ work since those three guys won’t demand as much as a Joe Johnson.
Depends
The season will start with Dalembert/Landry/Cousins/Thompson, and probably Brockman. Whiteside will go to Reno.
Landry is a huge trade chip (cheap, good, expiring) if Cousins develops a legit low post game. Landry could be shipped at the trade deadline for assets. Less likely that Dalembert gets shipped, as Whiteside is probably a ways away from being NBA ready.
There is no real hurry here. The Kings have Evans, Udrih, Garcia and Greene to play in the backcourt, they have Greene, Casspi and Garcia at the wing, and a lot of guys up front. They need to fill the 12th spot on the roster with another ball handler, and may have an opportunity to invite a guy like Randle or Torrance or someone like that to camp.
If I’m the Kings, I’m not going out and spending any tangible money on free agents now. I’m going to wait out the new CBA and be in a position of strength on the other side of the new deal.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Jun 24, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Gotta be over the minimum line though.
The Kings gotta spend SOME money.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
eddie house anyone?
My love for Buster Posey isn't unhealthy. Or at least that's what I keep telling myself.
by 8thInningWeirdness on Jun 24, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wouldn't mind Eddie House at all actually.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Love Eddie House
Definitely wouldn’t mind him.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think they'll be right around $40 million
after they sign Cousins, Whiteside and Brockman. They could spend a couple of million on players 12-14. Does $43 million get them there?
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
Adding
I have no issue with paying a vet a few million for one season – I just don’t want to see any multi-year deals.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Jun 24, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We'll see who's still in the tree after everything shakes out
Gotta be someone we can bring in to fill that spot.
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
Yes it do.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
They can bring in your Jerome Randall as an undrafted FA just to make you happy!
And maybe Ryan Thompson but he seems to want to stay out east.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
Man
Jerome Randle could be a great pickup as an UFA.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Wise would be another guy that didn't get drafted but the Kings had in for multiple visits.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
randle
is playing for Washington in summer league :/
My love for Buster Posey isn't unhealthy. Or at least that's what I keep telling myself.
by 8thInningWeirdness on Jun 24, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
damn sorry again
My love for Buster Posey isn't unhealthy. Or at least that's what I keep telling myself.
by 8thInningWeirdness on Jun 24, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
could take on a bad contract with a draft pick
Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather not see any multiyear deals either, a la section214
Anything that goes beyond 2 years can be a killer, depending on the new CBA. Nobody will want a Nocioni-type contract in 2 years…
well
1. If we were to take the bad contract we probably would just suck it up. I would think it wouldn’t be easy to move if in fact we got a draft pick for acquiring it.
2. Yeah I would hope just 2 years.
Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Mike Miller as a 2.
I can see Landry traded but not JT. Dalembert as well.
Let us see how much of a project Whiteside is first.
"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant
by Ice_9ine on Jun 24, 2010 10:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Westphal talking about Whiteside
saying people passed on him because everyone saw him as a center but the Kings see him as a power forward. Saying he’s a 7 footer but he shoots the ball really well, is quick, & won’t get pushed around by other power forwards.
I love beating dead horses.
by allbenji's on Jun 24, 2010 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
when you're 7' and 255 you most often don't get pushed around
I like that thinking. He’s going to swat shots like flies against PF’s
If incessant and obsessive discussion about a basketball player qualifies someone as being gay, then everybody – and I mean everybody – who posts on this site is totally flaming. - Corbin
235 lbs.
He needs to add some strength. In his interview on 1140, he said he is a PF, not a C. He will need some time but I am very happy with him in the 2nd round, just not the first/top 5 like some people predicted.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
2nd round the risk is extremely minimal.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
Yeah the more I think about this they think Whiteside can play PF alongside DMC.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
He will take time but that is ok.
Maybe the Kings could use him for ten minutes a game next year, not this year. In the mean time he can play and develop in Reno and with Coachie, Truck and SAR. This pick saves them 6-8 million in Dalembert next year. Now the Kings can concentrate on signing Landry to an extension and getting Thompson and Cousins ready to anchor the front line for the next decade. I love this pick in the second round.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
Why send him to D-League?
He holds more value than Brockman and we didn’t send him to the D-league. Let him grow with the team. I feel like Paul Westphal will make it clear what his role is with the team as a rookie and what he expects from him in terms of practice and in games
If incessant and obsessive discussion about a basketball player qualifies someone as being gay, then everybody – and I mean everybody – who posts on this site is totally flaming. - Corbin
Don't underestimate the value of a role player.
Brockman is going to be with the club- he’s too valuable as both a player and teammate.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
I'm not saying we let his Brockness walk
and I understand the logic in letting Whiteside go to Reno for a bit, but I just feel it would be much more beneficial for him to stay with the team and work day in and day out with coachie and SAF, while practicing and battling against JT, Dalembert, Cousins, Landry, Brockman, heck even Donte. I feel like despite maybe not getting that much PT, the time with the team and on the actual roster would be much more valuable than getting sent to the D-league
If incessant and obsessive discussion about a basketball player qualifies someone as being gay, then everybody – and I mean everybody – who posts on this site is totally flaming. - Corbin
We have ballers now
who will only make each other better
If incessant and obsessive discussion about a basketball player qualifies someone as being gay, then everybody – and I mean everybody – who posts on this site is totally flaming. - Corbin
He needs to play
To develop. What better way than starting in the D-League. I live in Reno, so I would be stoked to watch him play a couple times this year.
The NBA season is a grind.
There is very little time for recovery let alone player development during the season without playing time. Jason Thompson talked about this issue during the season, basically saying that once the season starts, there is no time to work out the kinks, those things are done during the off-season, on the court during games and during very limited practice time.
Practice time is spent going over schemes and prepping for the next opponents. Players spend time with Coachie and the assistants but that time is more conversational and not physical. With travel and busy schedules, NBA players barely have enough time to breath let alone bulk up and learn basics. The NBDL is a perfect spot for a young player who has trouble focusing and who needs to mature. That is not a description of John Brockman.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
by jjham15 on Jun 24, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Who said Whiteside has trouble focusing?
The NBDL is a perfect spot for a young player who has trouble focusing and who needs to mature.
The Kings denied the medical rumor, so it seems out of place to go clinical on us here.
I do think Whiteside will get some PT in Reno, though. It goes back to my earlier PT argument, which with both Cousins and Whiteside in the fold is magnified.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jun 24, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty sure he can start in the D-league and get called up
He can do both. No biggie, dude.
I would like to start him off with us, send him down for a month later on, and then bring him back, kind of like what they did with Donte.
"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant
by Ice_9ine on Jun 24, 2010 10:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Interesting
Again, that is like Garnett. Have him play weakside defender and let him use his athleticism. JT, Cousins and Dali can play enforcer position.
So excited for Summer League!
I wish I could watch some games live and I would go there in a heart beat if I wasn’t still recovering from a knee injury!
"Hard work always beats talent when talent doesn't work hard." - Kevin Durant
forgot link
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2010/6/15/1519429/kings-summer-league-schedule
"Hard work always beats talent when talent doesn't work hard." - Kevin Durant
by recklessmonkey on Jun 24, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Some great players still left
Michael Torrance
Stanley Robinson
Jerome Randle
etc…
Tons of players we could use and have probably talked about as 2nd round picks.
Great Draft
I am excited about this draft. I’m not sure if we make the Playoffs this year or next year or in three years but it will happen sooner rather than later. Either way its a win win in my opinion. Either we make the playoffs soon and show Free Agents why Sac is a great city to come to, or we keeping picking up solid high picks in the draft for a few years. Either way we are on the way up!!!
I see Whiteside staying and Brockness unfortunately getting sent back to d league if Kings resign him
Whiteside can play center and power forward. He also can do a lot more. I just don’t see Kings resigning Brockman now. They need that roster spot for a guard, point guard.
Fuck the Lakers...Oh sorry the Fakers
I'll bet you $1
Brockman brings a skillset that is unlike any of these other guys. You need a player on the end of the bench that will bust ass in practice, not mope over multiple DNP-CD’s, answer the call and always be ready, and not cause trouble. That’s Brockman. He stays in Sac. Whiteside goes to Reno.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Jun 24, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We need someone on the roster willing to land on swinging elbow (accidental of course) on both Jenning’s and Kobe’s face.
I wish I were in Brock's shoes
get paid 6 figures to kick it with the guys and have the best seats in the house. That’s my dream job
#vfettkefordraft
by vfettke on Jun 24, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
But you have to guard them in practice… ouch.
by caseycheesecake on Jun 24, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll have to check with Mrs. Tops, to see if she'll give me a dollar,
I’m not against adding Brockman to the roster for cheap, but he’s going to have to show that he has an outside shot and can get it off, or else I’d send him to Reno.
I keep Whiteside with the team, at least for the 1st half of the year. I would need for him to get into the NBA program and work with the team, at least until I had a idea of where he was and what I wanted the D-league coaches to work on with him. Plus I’d want him to experience the NBA life style before I sent him off for those long bus rides in the D-league. Make him hungrey to get back to the good life.
Plus Whiteside showed some offensive chops in the short workout clips and he may be more ready to contribute than most are willing to concede. If he is a 4 he really isn’t that much behind where JT was when he joined the team. When he shows that he understands what the team wants out of him, but he still can’t get playing time, then send him to the D-league.
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I am not as much concerned
with brockman playing all that much as I would be seeing Whiteside develop in Reno.
I think Brockman is the energy off the bench for a couple minutes and when Whiteside starts getting how to play better, than Brockman will have to decide to ride the bench or play in the D-league.
Whiteside was projected at mid draft pick 14-24, Brockman early 2nd rounder
So, why is it that Brockman could contribute last year, but Whiteside needs to go to the D-League?
Whiteside has the length and athleticism to come off the bench and be a defensive shot blocker and rebounder, now. I see him backing up the 4, playing along side Cousins or JT.
It’s not like the Kings are going to be a playoff contender. They still have to learn to play team defense and learn how to run a effecient half court offense. I’ve never felt that a rookie develops quicker playing minutes against inferior players. Is someone like Omri really going to advance his development playing in a YMCA league?
Let Whiteside experience the NBA, learn from his coaching staff and practice against the best players we can play against him. The D-league shouldn’t be for developing players and if it were more players would be going into the D-league instead of going to college when they know that they don’t have the scholastic ability to handle the courses. The D-league should be for getting players in game shape, after coming off of injury.
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by HighTops on Jun 24, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brockman's opportunities
were a product of the lack of depth and talent up front. He was competing with Kenny Thomas and Sean May for minutes off the bench.
Whiteside will be battling Dalembert, Landry, JT and Cousins for minutes. I just don’t see where this raw kid carves out any minutes for himself. Brockman, on the other hand, can give you a different look in short stints, and won’t cause a fuss sitting on the end of the bench.
I’m not advocating that Whiteside spend the whole season in Reno. Let him go there a few times during the season for game minutes, and let him wear a suit and carry a “Hello Kitty” backpack the rest of the time.
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I see Hassan developing into a seven footer a lot quicker than Brockster
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I do, too
But not this year. Brockman can help this team even when he doesn’t play. He brings his lunch pail and hard hat to work every day. He makes everyone around him work harder. He’s ready to play, but won’t piss and moan when he doesn’t.
It takes a certain mindset to sit in the 10-12 chairs on an NBA bench. Chucky Brown did it for us. So did Lawrence Funderburke and Ty Corbin. So can Jon Brockman.
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by section214 on Jun 24, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Like Evans mentioned, I'd rather have a veteran who knows how to prepare for a game be the example
I don’t know exactly how much affect Brockman will have on our young guys.
Also, it might be kinder considering our new depth, to just let Brockman go and find a place in the league that fits him better. He’s going to have to move on with his career eventually, and it doesn’t look like there’s a big future for him in Sac.
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Apparently, I'm doing a lousy job of conveying my point
It’s not about Brockman providing leadership – it’s about him providing competition at practice, being tough, and capably filling the end of the bench at a reasonable price.
There’s a reason that we don’t like Eduardo Najera and Reggie Evans and the like – because they should not contribute much, but they always have a knack of delivering what they do on the rare occasions that they get into games. And when they are not playing, they cause no team strife, they take care of their business. There is no downside to having a guy like this on your team.
And as much as I like Brockman, I’m not ready to set him free into the league where he can find “a better life.” We can use him here.
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You did a fine job making your point.
It’s just when I hear ‘lunch pail’ I immediately think of an example of hard work a good work ethic. And, after drafting Cousins, work ethic is still looming large in the back of my mind.
As far as providing competition at practice, I just don’t buy that Brockman provides that much competition. Maybe before against Hawes & JT, but Hawes has been playing against Brockman for years and he didn’t improve enough to save his spot on the roster. Now, with the 4 bigs we have, most of whom can shoot over the top of Brockman, I don’t see the benefit. And, isn’t Cousins the new bad ass in town that everyone will be competing against.
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There seems to be a lot of emotion tied up in Brockman
because his hustle and toughness are to be commended. But when you watch a game, it is easy to confuse activity with accomplishment. With so many good young big guys on the team, Brockman just isn’t a priority. I would love him to hang around, but it just isn’t that important. We need to develop JT, DMC, and Hassan, as there is a reasonable chance we lost Dalambert and Landry next year.
by MichaelMack on Jun 24, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Am I the only one to notice this?
I see Hassan developing into a seven footer a lot quicker than Brockster
Brockman is going to have to grow REALLY quick to catch up. Plus he might have to cut off Hassan’s feet just in case.
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe you were the only one to notice and not realize it was a joke
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Come on Wally!
You’re better than that!
by caseycheesecake on Jun 25, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
well i was joking too
I was just surprised nobody gave you an lol or took it the next step is all
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 25, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't try to cover it up now. You just didn't get it.
Now put you foot-saw away.
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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 25, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm with you, section.
I think he’ll get minutes on the rare occasion with us, mainly due to injuries and non-competitive games, but I think he should definitely spend a little time in Reno.
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I can live with limited D-Time
I just against the idea of dumping him in the D-L for the next 2 years to DEVELOP.
But, unless Brockman has perfected a short to mid range jumper, I don’t see the Kings keeping him after this draft. And, if they do keep him, he might find the opportunity to work on his jumper with major minutes on a D-League team more beneficial than sitting in the 12th spot on the bench.
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Brockman is a guy the coaches adore.
Because he goes in, does what is asked of him, plays his tail off, and changes the pace and energy of the game. These are young players – DMC, Whiteside, Greene, Omri. Besides his value on the court – the guy can rebound and body in the post – he is someone PW can turn to (like Ime with offensive discipline and defensive intensity) and insert into a game and make things happen.
I agree with Section; It isn’t all about getting your numbers, and Brockman showed that many times last year.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 24, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Who said 2 years?
Let him spend a year there to develop, then make a decision on him after the season. Landry/Dali will both be expirings, so the possibility is that either of those guys could be dealt by the trade deadline – meaning you bring up Whiteside quicker.
This is an excellent timeline for development in both directions. If it’s clear that Whiteside’s too good for Reno, you know you’re safe to make a deadline deal with Dalembert or Landry – and you can move the kid into the rotation.
Fact is, the kid didn’t go in the 15 range for a reason, and he was picked 33rd. Maybe it’s a medical issue, maybe it’s because he’s incredibly raw. So I don’t have a problem with the team moving him to Reno for a good portion of the season to see what they have.
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Who said a year
He could go down 2-3 times for 3 weeks at a time over the course of the season. As long as we send a coach with him.
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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 25, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I said it because it's unclear what time frame most people are talking about
All I read through out this entire thread all I saw was send Whiteside to the D-League, but no one was saying to what extent, including yourself.
But, if the point is to send him there 2-3 times for 3 weeks at a time as Kfan says below, then aren’t all these comments premature? If we’re going to send him there shouldn’t we at least wait until training camp and preseason. He might end up being the starting PF and we’ll end up sending JT to the D-League.
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I’m not advocating that Whiteside spend the whole season in Reno. Let him go there a few times during the season for game minutes, and let him wear a suit and carry a "Hello Kitty" backpack the rest of the time.
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by section214 on Jun 24, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
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Yes, I read your post, but my answer to otis was that MOST people
But, I do agree with otis about one thing, I can’t believe this is even a discussion. We haven’t seen him play, and we’re already determining that he can’t get minutes. Shouldn’t we give him at least until the preseason, to win a place in the rotation.
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Sorry, I was responding to this statement of yours -
I said it because it’s unclear what time frame most people are talking about All I read through out this entire thread all I saw was send Whiteside to the D-League, but no one was saying to what extent, including yourself.
So I guess that makes me “no one.” That hurts. Really does. :)
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I agree.
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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 25, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Section214 took the words out of my mouth
Much more competition and depth at that position this year than last.
Brockman and Whiteside are different players with potentially different roles.
Brockman wasn’t sent to the D-League because his skill set was one that the Kings desperately needed last year: Rebounding and toughness. He didn’t need to develop anything else to contribute to the team and isn’t viewed by anyone as a player that will one day play regular minutes at the NBA level. He also played four years of college and was viewed as a tough guy without a high ceiling, but that could contribute right away in what he brings to the table. The Kings felt comfortable in the fact that he could help them last year and probably would not have benefitted a great deal from the D-League.
Whiteside played one season at Marshall and is viewed as a project with a high ceiling. He has a lot to learn and the D-League could do him a lot of good. Putting him on the bench and not allowing him to play could be potentially damaging. He needs to start in the D-league and the Kings will put him there in order to develop him. They did it with Greene and they will do it with Whiteside.
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Hakeem Olajuwon disagrees about sending Whiteside to the D-League
Here a link: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/frank_hughes/06/23/hassan.whiteside.draft/index.html
If we are only going to have Dalembert for one year, I want Whiteside at every practice playing against him. That’s the kind of competition he needs to work against not someone in the D-League because he isn’t good enough to make it in the NBA.
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Olajuwon also says that a big guy "needs to play."
That is exactly my point. He won’t play much with the Kings current roster. Olajuwon’s quote was taken before any situation or context was given. He obviously thinks that bigs need to be on the floor to learn the game. I totally agree with him. That is also the reason that Thabeet was in the D-League. I actually thought that Memphis could have found more time for Thabeet in their rotation. I don’t see the Kings being able to find time for Whiteside with their current roster configuration. What is better or worse for a player? Sit the bench in games, but practice against NBA players? Or play against lesser players, but get a good run in and learn the system in a game situation? I don’t know. It very likely depends on what kind of support the Kings can provide him at each level and whether or not they feel like they can develop him. Ultimately Petrie and Westphal will get to sit down and decide what is best for developing him. I trust their decision. It wouldn’t surprise me either way, but my gut says he starts in the D-league at the beginning of the season just to let him play 25-30 minutes in game situations.
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I think Memphis sent Thabeet down
Because for a portion of the season they were in contention for a playoff spot, and were more concerned with winning games (and putting some butts in the seat) than developing a young center and possibly costing themselves some wins.
Which is exactly what the Kings should do here. The time has come to start winning ballgames. Your already developing Tyreke, Omri and DeMarcus. Adding a very raw big into that development chain (and to a frontcourt rotation that has very few minutes available) is nutty.
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The Kings need to win some games this year
Cousins is going to be thrown into the fire. Whiteside’s not going to break into that rotation unless there’s an injury – and if that happens, you bring him in.
Otherwise, let him learn the game in Reno.
I can’t believe this is even a debate.
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Otis,
the people just want to see a non-stop block-fest…
Can you blame us?
by caseycheesecake on Jun 25, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Truely, and shouldn't we wait until PW decides on his starting rotation
before we in all our infinite knowledge, decide that Whiteside isn’t going to get any minutes here.
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I can't believe you've decided the fate of a player before his first training camp
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Indeed
Comparing Whiteside’s situation to Brockman’s is an apples to chainsaws comparison.
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
Brockman might go elsewhere
Where he has a better shot at playing time. He’s got some ability, and I think he’d rather shoot for the moon than be stuck here as a bench jockey. Or he may just stay here and prove the anysayers wrong again.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jun 24, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I was so surprised Hassan fell this far
I thought he would be gone by 15-20. What a steal, he has upside. Such a sexy pick. I kept thinking he was surely going to be taken. Then when he was drafted by Sacramento I found myself respecting Petrie’s genius even more. KIngs will beast in 2010-11 I can’t wait.
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sometimes the dice just rolls your way.
by creep on Jun 24, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
amen
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
no one HAS to go to reno
with whiteside and cousins drafted, i only count 11 players. so we still have room to shop for a guard while keeping all the bigs with the team.
4 bigs isn't too many
they’ll let Whiteside get experience in the D-league
They'll get playing time
Maybe not a ton. But there will be nights when we’re getting blown out, nights when we’re doing the blowing out, nights when people are in foul trouble, players will get injured. The list goes on. They’ll get some experience.
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Whiteside can still play in the NBA
As far as I can recall (last year) you can bring players up and give them time in the NBA as well, but you don’t want to jam 10 minutes a game in their for the kid, I say let him play a little in both leagues this year, than let him loose after thsi year.
I totally agree.
But I don’t think drafting Whiteside was a mistake just because we already have a lot of bigs, was my main point.
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Sounds like the Russian Rubio
He might be better.
He isn’t the shooter we need though, and he can’t play defense.
But I like Beno for now. Beno deserves his spot here.
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by Ice_9ine on Jun 24, 2010 10:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Also I hope and this is random and maybe stupid
but I really want the front office to sign the former Portland Trail Blazers general manager Kevin Pritchard as some sort of advisor or scout or something. He has a great basketball mind
Fuck the Lakers...Oh sorry the Fakers
guy will be in huge demand for a GM job.
will not take a step down by being an assistant or scout. agreed that hes an amazing talent though
Cain is Able ...
They already signed an advisor a year ago who looks to be groomed for the GM spot
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
But they interviewed Buford, Presti and one other over the last 2 weeks through a head hunter.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
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***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
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wait who is "they"
I meant the Kings. Did you mean the Blazers or the Kings?
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Portland.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
ah sorry I was referring to the Kings
and I forget the name of Kevin Martin’s ex agent who the Kings signed a year ago
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Great draft
Cousins and Whiteside solidify the Kings in the post.
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might as well try to sign Lebron FTW!
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I almost would rather not.
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by Ice_9ine on Jun 24, 2010 10:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Amick is going to be on the Charmichael Dave show in like 10 mins
for anyone interested
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Donte's on right now for those who want to listen.
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Yep, listening
He sounds so mature now. Hope it;s not just me
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Man. I am so very pleased. I had to work today, and didn’t get to watch the draft. I expected Cousins to some extent, but Whiteside too? Gawd damn … I was interested in Whiteside from the get-go. This is groovy.
by Charles L. Pierro on Jun 24, 2010 9:45 PM PDT reply actions
Thompson for Mayo
Thompson 15/10 Mayo 20
Thompson real Pf OR C, Mayo fits need guard that can sink open shot or create
We are actually $17 million under
Whiteside biggest wingspan Cousins tied for second. Whiteside maxvert leap second only to favors.
Then maybe we trade him to kenny
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yeah not sure if I agree with Kenny
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by wallywagon11 on Jun 24, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn, Sam's gonna feel like he's got TRex arms next to those two
We could trade JT for a nice 2, or a Beno upgrade, that could be just the ticket.
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We need quality 2
and that’s all we need …
Mayo might be a stretch, I’m thinkin’ more like Mike Miller as FA
And we need JT to play the 4 still.
no thanks on Mike Miller
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Agreed
Love Mike Miller. He does a little bit of everything. He played very well down the stretch for Washington last year too.
we need somebody who does a little bit more on the defensive end
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Not if everyone else is above average on defense.
Miller is a veteran, he can play defense, even if he isn’t a stopper.
Evans, Casspi, Greene, Dalembert, and potentially Whiteside and Cousins are all there to help.
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by Ice_9ine on Jun 24, 2010 10:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
what about eddie house?
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by 8thInningWeirdness on Jun 24, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Haven't posted in a while
It appears the ghost’s of Kenny Thomas and Mikki Moore have been exorcised………………….we’ve gone from a Hydra of Mediocrity to a Hydra of Possibility. When the hell did the Kings ever make it a point to load up on frontcourt talent, it’s not supposed to be like this……….Where is our Greg Ostertag? Who is our Potapenko? Not a washed up white stiff in sight, isn’t that a staple of Kings basketball?………How the hell does coach make a solid rotation with that much diversity on the roster? The only problem I have is that I like all of our bigs, but I don’t love any of them. Mind you, it is a whole lot of like.
For next season I’m not thinking playoffs……….but, I am.
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by The Artist Formerly Known as CrownUs93 on Jun 24, 2010 9:54 PM PDT reply actions
Six days, 1 hour, 4 minutes
Until Free Agency Madness.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 24, 2010 9:56 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah but sadly, LeBron will probably dictate EVERYTHING
He’ll probably be the first to sign, but somehow I don’t think he’ll be getting his pen out on July 1. After he signs, everyone else will follow suit and it will eventually become a free-for-all or sorts.
By the time it's over,
a whole lotta people are going to know how LeBron’s dictate.
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by section214 on Jun 24, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
hahahahahaha rec'd
My love for Buster Posey isn't unhealthy. Or at least that's what I keep telling myself.
by 8thInningWeirdness on Jun 24, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
How many bigs constiutes too many bigs?
Last year, the Kings carried 5 “bigs” most of the year:
JT, Hawes, May, Thomas, Brockman,
JT, Hawes, Landry, May, Brockman. And they still played with a “small” lineup a great deal of the time. Dorsey and Armstrong had a cup of coffee here, as well.
Your core now is Dalembert/Landry/JT/Cousins. Give Brockman or Whiteside the 12th chair, and the other guy wears a suit (and you can send Whiteside to Reno for stints). That leaves you 8 roster spots for your guards and wings. What’s the problem?
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Great point
So excited for next year. Excited for the summer league to start as well. Is Tyreke going to play?
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He's going to practice with the team
To get into condition for Team USA tryouts.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 24, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice
Kinda glad he’s not playing. Awesome that he has Team USA tryouts.
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Too many bigs is not a problem....
The fact that the proposed talent level of them all combined is greater than most froncourts of Kings past, creates a question of minute distribution, which could be a problem. Albeit, a problem most of us will gladly accept, considering we just lived through The Poodle Era.
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The Crown affair has stopped by for a visit.......
Nice to see ya Crown.
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How about.........
Kings get- Beasley, future pick
Wolves get- Landry-Whiteside
It saves them about 1.5 mil & we come away with a 2nd overall pick in Beasley.
Beasley- 15ppg/6rpg/30min
Landry- 17ppg/6rpg/30min
Beno/???
Reke/Garcia
Greene/Casspi
Beasley/JT
Dalembert/Cousins
KINGS WILL BE 10-11 CHAMPIONS
Good Lord, why would we give up two real assets for a disaster?
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The only way to make the deal better is if the Heat keep Beasley
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by Holmdel on Jun 24, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Landry
is an $8 million player with a $3 million contract. It is also expiring, which makes him insanely tradeable. And you would trade that for Beasley, who is no better than fair value to his contract, and what promises to be a late 1st round pick? It just makes no sense to me.
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Beasley doesn't suck........
He and Landry put up the same #‘s, and he’s 5yrs younger.
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The heat would likely give us Beasley for a heavily protected 2nd rounder
just to clear the cap space.
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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 24, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is why the Heat have been unable to give him away, right?
I’m betting that if the Kings offered to give away Landry tomorrow, most teams would come calling.
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I guess I missed the article on his irreconcilable character issues.....
Forget the deal.
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Just say no.
I would love to keep Landry around til we’re contending. He brings toughness, energy, leadership, and inside scoring.
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Why?
The pick that you get from Miami is likely to be a late 1st round pick by the time the Heat get done reloading, so you have in essence traded your single greatest trade chip (Landry) and a rookie with some potential for Beasley? Pass.
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Beasley can give us what Landry does + more.......
He’s a 21yr old #2 overall pick. There’s nowhere for him to go but up. & come to think of it, we could keep Whiteside and do the deal straight up, Landry for Beasley.
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Shelden Williams was also a top pick
and we all know how that turned out. It’s not where you’re picked, but how you play.
Landry > Beasley.
If you want to trade Landry, get me somebody better first.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jun 24, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
In what way is Landry clearly better than Beasley?
And remember that Landry plays more minutes.
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Well..
Landry is much more likeable. Beasely seems like a punk, doesn’t seem to care half the time, and doesn’t give the effort and toughness Landry brings. Don’t get me wrong, I think the kid can be good, and could potentially be better than landry. But as of right now, I would not give up Landry for him. I think Landry is clearly a big part of the kings and their future.
Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
That just happened.
He's a better scorer
and he has a great attitude.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jun 24, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Check some advanced statistics
Offensively, these guys aren’t even in the same state, much less the same ballpark.
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No Beasley
Besides the off the court troubles, I’ve never watched Michael Beasley and thought “Man, he is really giving his all out there”. He may have all the talent in the world but he plays with no heart or passion. It goes without saying, Carl Landry is the antithesis of Michael Beasley and he doesn’t come with the same baggage suspected of DMC.
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by The Artist Formerly Known as CrownUs93 on Jun 24, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
You've gone off the reservation on this one haze
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
Haze...
you’re sniffing something illegal.
by caseycheesecake on Jun 25, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
This continues to confuse me as to why people can't understand, Miami doesn't want any salary back.
They’ll give us Beasley for a cowbell. Just take him off their hands.
They’re clearing cap space for free agency.
And, now that we already have a backlog at PF/Center, where would we find minutes to play him.
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If you're going to trade Landry...
You make it in a package for someone like Granger. I would do something like offer Landry and a 1st for Granger and see if that sticks. You don’t waste your best trade chip on a potential head case who can’t be given away at this point.
I love Landry
But I would do this deal in a second. It solves our SF weakness, and we still have plenty of bigs, although it would put more pressure on Boogie to fulfill his hype in short order.
Granger > Landry
Can we also do the Tyreke for Chris Paul deal while we’re at it?
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jun 24, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Why stop there
Hell, we should just offer up for Durant while we are at it too.
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JT and how this all shakes out
I think this is going to be a big wakeup call for JT, and it’s going to be great competition among our bigs in camp. Still think Cousins is going to do more sitting than playing, but at least none of these minutes will be gifted. They’ll be earned, and the team will be better for it.
Assuming no deals in the meantime, I think the Kings will carry all six bigs on the roster. I think Dalembert, JT and Landry will get the bulk of the playing time and the other three will have their moments.
Then we have Tyreke and Beno in the frontcourt. I think Garcia might play more 3 than anyone thinks right now, particularly in crunch time. Omri, Donte and Udoka would bring the roster to 12. We definitely could use another bachup PG like we had with Garrett Temple and a true SG.
I think Petrie has built a lot of flexibility into this roster, and I don’t think he’s done dealing. All those teams that wanted Cousins might still have a shot.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
There's absolutely NO way
That we trade Cousins. I can’t believe that was just suggested. Go to Kings.com and look at the front splash screen, then say there’s a chance we trade him.
The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"
Two days ago they were selling Dalembert as the big draw
It’s marketing, not coaching.
You’re probably right, though, it’s doubtful that he’s dealt, but the Kings suddenly have a glut in the frontcourt, so eventually someone will go.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jun 24, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Trust me when I say
The Kings will play Cousins, a large amount. Outside of Blake Griffin, I would say Cousins has the best chance to win ROY. He will get his minutes just like Tyreke did.
Cousins will be lucky to play 20-25 minutes per game
Take the 96 minutes at the 4-5 and split up the minutes. Look at last year’s numbers: JT and Landry with more than 30 a game and Dalembert with 26 mpg. That’s 85-90 minutes right there. Do you think JT, Landry and Dalembert are going to be cut to 20 minutes a games so the great DeMarcus Cousins can play 35 minutes per game? Do the math.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jun 24, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you think a young, rebuilding team
Is going to waste their young talent behind expiring contracts, or let them play? Do you think Daly suddenly makes this a playoff team?
Tyreke got better as the season went along, and won ROY because he got a chance to play. A lot.
Cousins will get the same chance.
Cousins may not start the season as starter, but he will get every chance to finish it.
Daly gets traded at deadline.
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by Ice_9ine on Jun 24, 2010 11:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It all depends on how well Cousins actually performs
If he gets some minutes and performs like a ROY candidate, you could be right about Dalembert, although I’d like to keep him around since he is still the only true center on the roster.
Dalembert certainly improves the team. Whether they become a playoff contender probably depends on what other moves Petrie makes this offseason. If he stands pat or just adds some roster filler, then we should still improve, but probably not enough to make the playoffs. But if he upgrades the SG and SF positions in a meaningful way or Cisco, Omri and Donte have a breakout season, then we could be a contender for an 8 seed.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jun 24, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Good thing Cousins is used to 23 minutes per game
to go along with those nice college numbers
by DirtyDribblers on Jun 24, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Wall is your likely ROY
or Turner or Johnson. Guys who are ready to play and don’t face a lot of competition for PT.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jun 24, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
I forgot about Griffin. I hope he has a good year against the other teams.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jun 24, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed NEK
That is truly the formula to predict rookie production.
by DirtyDribblers on Jun 24, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, I know!
Let’s trade him straight up for Tayshaun Prince!
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 24, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's a helluva good idea.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jun 24, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Again
You are the guy who wanted to trade Reke, Omri and #5 pick for Chris Paul the other day. I’m not paying attention to you about roster advice.
Mostly he's been pimping Tayshaun Prince.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 25, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it possible to suddenly have TOO MUCH rebounding? Cuz I think we might be there.
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Dalembert at the 5, Boogie at the 4, Hassan at the 3, Tyreke at the 2 and...
Brock bringing up the ball, dumping it off then hammering the glass.
They could possibly get every board.
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Interesting article about Whiteside
sorry if its been posted. This is pre-draft but its still pretty interesting and confirms what a steal he is at 33.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/frank_hughes/06/23/hassan.whiteside.draft/index.html
Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
That just happened.
???
Has the GP made one too many commitments here. How is everyone go to be pleased with so little playing-time to go around. Somebody’s not going to be happy, & eventually one will have to go.
Cousins- The new Mr. Untouchable, I cant see him not getting 25mins a game.
JT- He’s been our future for 2yrs now, how do we limit his minutes?
Landry- Mr. 6th man
Dalembert- Thought to be the missing piece. 2yrs now, GP has been chasing him. So do we just not resign him next season?
Whiteside- If he’s as unpolished as many think, maybe we send him to the D-League.
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Did you read the post directly above yours?
Someone who knows more about basketball than anyone here, says it would be a mistake to send Whiteside to the D-League. He says
“If he goes to the team that has a good big man he can practice against, he can get confidence. If he gets the right coach that knows that he is a talent and will play him and encourage him, he can come along quickly. But as you know, with the draft, he does not know what to expect.”
Well Whiteside will have SD and DC to practice with here. Who’s he going to find in the DLeague that will give him that kind of challenge
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At least with the D-League, he’s going to encounter prospects with NBA size/guys close to his height.
Vlade Divac, the 24 year old [Redacted] center who reported to training camp at 250, 15 pounds more than last season's weight: "We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in our heads. Our heads weigh more."
by kingsfan300 on Jun 24, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
You do realize
That in-season practice isn’t about development of talent, it’s about preparing to win basketball games, right? Especially on the road, where they rarely get to practice.
Development is incidental on the big club. Where Whiteside’s going to get his development is actually playing basketball. So start him in D-League, and if it’s stunting his growth, bring him back. If you have him on the big club, he’s going to get few minutes and very little actual development.
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I wonder
If Whiteside were a Euro player, we would be fine with him developing for at least another year before coming stateside. So then, what is the big deal with Whiteside spending some time in the NBDL? My God, Whiteside is the poster child for why the NBDL exists.
No one is saying send him to Reno for the whole year. But he could probably do a few 1-2 week stints, just so he could get some minutes and some real game competition. For example, when the Kings have one of those four game in five night road trips (with a day of travel on each side) that don’t allow for any practice time, send Hassan to Reno for that week and let him play.
This is the #33 pick in the draft that we’re talking about, not some high lottery pick. And I respect the hell out Olajuwan as a player – one of my all time faves. But his comments are not predicated on Whiteside’s current situation, which is that he is a 2nd round project pick that is no better than 5th on the KIngs front court depth chart.
To be clear, I would like to see Whiteside in Sacramento for much of the season, though I doubt that we will see him log many actual minutes. He should also spend pockets of time in Reno, developing what he is picking up in practice.
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No one is saying specificly what the time frame is.
otis is suggesting
So start him in D-League, and if it’s stunting his growth, bring him back. If you have him on the big club, he’s going to get few minutes
Your say a few 1-2 week stints. Why? Did you see something in practice, during the VSL, in the first preseason game? Oh wait none of that has happened yet. Is there anyone here that can prove without a shadow of a doubt that Whiteside cant win a role in the rotation by the start of the season.
Whether or not it would help he’s development is arguementative at best. The fact that anyone can determine what he needs at this point in his career (1 day after being drafted) sounds extremely premature to me.
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I'm going on the basis
that this kid was passed over by 28 teams once and 2 teams twice before he was selected. I’m going on the basis of all of the reports that say this kid is more raw than sushi. I’m going on the basis that many thought that he should stay in school another year.
Prove without a shadow of a doubt? No. Nothing is certain. I didn’t realize that we were having “without shadow of a doubt” conversations around here. If we can only speak when we have absolutely no doubt, then I guess I’m preety much done at StR.
Jesus, HT! I keep clarifying that Whiteside should get some minutes at Reno to augment his time in Sacramento, and you make it sound like I want to give the kid the short shrift or send him to Afghanistan. Yeah, he could come in and displace any/all of the current Kings bigs on the depth chart. My opinion is that he will not even displace Brockman when the season has begun.
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OK, we both agree he might benefit from limited time in Reno.
I’m not going to make any assumptions based on draft position or opinions of some analysists. When he gets to the team, and PW cant find playing time for him that will be the time to make those kind of decisions.
As to whether or not he displaces Brockman, were not in agreement there. In fact, even if Brockman is offered a contract, he may choose to go elsewhere.
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I'm with HighTops
I don’t really feel like the D-League is really a place for developing a player. The level of competition is not that much greater than college, if at all (considering that in college you’re playing against future NBA players whereas in the D-League by definition you’re basically not), and I can’t think of a single instance where a guy was sent down to D-League and then came back marginally different than they were before. It’s great for fringe guys to prove themselves, but does anyone here really think a guy’s going to learn more sitting on a bus in the D-League than going up against actual NBA players in practice every day?
I get why everyone likes the D-League in concept, but in practice it mainly seems to demoralize actual NBA players and doesn’t really seem to achieve much. Keep Whiteside on the roster, let him get some playing time when he can, and see what you have. All this D-League talk is extremely premature, IMO.
Dude, I've had it up to here with your rosterbating
Seriously, all you ever want to do is trade away half the team for crap. Are you even a Kings fan?
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Screw Reno
Anybody contemplating a trip down to Las Vegas for some summer league games?
by DirtyDribblers on Jun 24, 2010 11:17 PM PDT reply actions
Me and my co-worker are.
Problem is I make <$20,000 with a 8 mo. old baby and we get WIC. I would have to have it as a very early Christmas present.
Or I could drive there…
by caseycheesecake on Jun 25, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Whiteside will earn minutes at the 4
Because JT still has not proven that he can avoid getting into foul trouble early and often. Landry should be the one coming off the bench to be our uber 6th man for about 20-25 minutes a game, if for no other reason than to pace him for the season. Remember, these are pretty big fellas we’re talking about here and the wear and tear of running up and down a basketball court for 82 games will get to them. Pacing Landry’s minutes would be the smart thing to do so he can be consistant game in and game out.
Also, Whiteside is a nice injury insurance in case JT takes another nasty spill like last season or something like that.
Either way, I definately see Whiteside getting minutes on this team and could be a great addition
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