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The Greatest Time to be a Kings Fan

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Yesterday, the Kings drafted DeMarcus Cousins and Hassan Whiteside and solidified their position as one of the best up-and-coming teams in the NBA.  The so-called "experts" have varied on their reactions to these picks, stating that Cousins and Whiteside both have huge risks, and that despite their talent, they could end up not panning out.

I don't care what they think.  Yesterday, the Kings took a huge step forward back to the road of relevancy, and possibly even more than that. 

DeMarcus Cousins, despite all the red flags around him, is largely talked about as the best talent in the draft (next to Wall).  Sacramento has had a great history of bringing in supposed headcases and having it work out: Chris Webber, Vernon Maxwell, Jason Williams, Ron Artest, Bonzi Wells ... the list goes on.  DeMarcus really seems to love the game and is confident in himself and the fact that he can become "the best player in this draft".  I have high hopes that this will be the case.  Another thing going in his favor is that he actually wanted to come to Sacramento.

Hassan Whiteside meanwhile, was always projected as a project, but one with ENORMOUS upside.  7'0 with a freakish 7'7 wingspan, he fell in the draft because of questions of his maturity and ADD issues.  Now, I don't always agree with Jay Bilas, but I believe he said it best when the Kings drafted him: "Whiteside would have been a risk/reward pick in the first round.  But here in the 2nd, he's all reward"  I completely agree. Whiteside comes in for cheap, we can sign him for 2 to 5 years, and we have plenty of time to develop him.  This could end up being like having another lottery pick.

The Kings also recently got rid of their worst contract in Andres Nocioni (who didn't want to be here) and an intriguing big man in Spencer Hawes for the services of Samuel Dalembert, who also wanted to be here (I'm sensing a theme).  Dalembert brings the two biggest things the Kings have lacked in recent years, rebounding and shot blocking.  At 29 years old, he's young enough that the Kings can re-sign him if they like him.

The best part of these additions is how it makes the team better.  We've addressed our weaknesses in the frontcourt, but we've also improved our team's talent base.  In practice now, Tyreke and JT are going to have to go up against some intimidating presences in the middle for once.  Perhaps they'll become more adept at not getting their shots blocked.  DeMarcus will have to learn to guard an offensive dynamo in Carl Landry or try to score against Samuel Dalembert. 

The Kings also have flexibility for the future.  Only Beno and Cisco have contracts that extend past the CBA, and I don't see the Kings trading them as they bring veteran leadership and both have the ability to play with 'Reke in the backcourt.  The Kings do have quite a bit of money though, money they can use to shore up the guard spot, or wait to re-sign Carl Landry or Dalembert next year after the CBA.  Here's a short list of some of the guards the Kings can go out there and target:

As you can see, the Kings are not lacking for options, especially when you consider all the talented guards that went undrafted somehow.  Right now this is what the Kings roster looks like:

C - Samuel Dalembert, DeMarcus Cousins, Hassan Whiteside

PF - Carl Landry, Jason Thompson, Jon Brockman

SF - Omri Casspi, Donte Greene

SG - Francisco Garcia

PG - Tyreke Evans, Beno Udrih

That's 11 roster spots, with 12 being the minimum, and the Kings likely to add maybe 2 players, probably to the backcourt.  This is a roster now loaded with youth and talent. 

Now, as expected, even the draft was dominated by LeBron, with most people calling the Bulls the winners of the draft as they were able to unload Kirk Hinrich on the Wizards to free up enough cap space to get two max level guys.  Something I think these "experts" are missing out on, and that Kings fans should be excited about, is that the Kings now have potentially two franchise level players in Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins, at the two most difficult positions to fill. 

Like DeMarcus said "We're gonna bring back some W's next year". Yes, yes you will. And the years after.

It's a great time to be a Kings fan.

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Great post

The best thing Jay Bilas said last night was about Whiteside. There’s absolutely no risk with him in the 2nd round, but tons and tons of value.

"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
METS: My Entire Team Sucks.

by mvhsbball on Jun 25, 2010 12:13 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Whiteside would be a lottery pick next year if he stayed in school...

But we get him in the 2nd round this year… Whiteside will turn out to be the true steal of the draft

by Screamer on Jun 25, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

And even if he doesn’t develop, it’s not like we bet the franchise on him. What’s that stat…something like 78% of 2nd round picks are out of the league within 5 years? So even if he is a bust, we aren’t out much.

"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
METS: My Entire Team Sucks.

by mvhsbball on Jun 25, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

We should of traded into the second round again

i dont think Warren was a player to skip on. Look what he did Freshman year with a huge guy on his team

I know i don't know it all... its just what my parents call me

by Mr. Know it all on Jun 25, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was screaming (not literally like I was in the Douby over Rondo draft)

to get back in the second round to grab warren. Wouldn’t have cost us anything but next year’s 2nd round pick or cash.

by rory_sayer on Jun 25, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

def great read!

RekeRoy!!! all day....GO KINGS!!!

by its_stefan on Jun 25, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Miller?

Maybe cause he always seemed to excel against us. (most white guys do), but he was a commodity a few years back. did he just get to delt to bad situation? maybe we can ressurect his career?

Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.

by Shadrack on Jun 25, 2010 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

and I like Morrow!

Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.

by Shadrack on Jun 25, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yah ill take Morrow..

Out of all those guards he’ll complement Reke the best. Reke inside Morrow outside.

by RekeHAVOC_13 on Jun 25, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree on Morrow

He is young and can stroke the 3. I also like Tony Allen because he has superb defense. Just look at what he was able to do to Kobe in the Finals.

by g4y Vulture on Jun 25, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Morrow?

Yes please.

A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...

by Jaycee on Jun 25, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

But can he play a lick of defense?

Just a lick, that’s all I’m asking. /TWHS

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

doesn’t he have at least on fork in him

by Murf on Jun 25, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

who, Miller?

one fork? maybe. could be a Nick Anderson situation.

Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.

by Shadrack on Jun 25, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He played well last year

but I would imagine he is going to try and hook up with a winning team, even if it means a lower salary

by MichaelMack on Jun 25, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait a minute...

the Kings are not a winning team?

Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.

by Shadrack on Jun 25, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Miller still put up decent stats last year.

I consider him a less defensive minded upgrade to Udoka. He averaged 10.9 points, 6.2 rebounds, and 3.9 assists last year in 54 games. His career shooting percentages are: 46.4% total fg%, 40.5% 3pt%, and 77% free throws. Pretty decent for a role-player. His defense is not that great but if you have Dalembert-Cousins-Whiteside behind him, that won’t be much of a problem.

by clicc916 on Jun 25, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

JJ Reddick - They need a 2 not a 1

Many of the players on your list are PG’s, which I don’t get …. Kings don’t need 3rd PG to play behind Reke and Beno. In the best case, Cisco improves after recovering from his injury and the perfect 4th guard to add to mix would be JJ Reddick or Miller, who can hit the J, hit FTs, and play some D. Reddick has improved a lot over last 2 years, and his D and team play is solid.

by Watty4ever on Jun 25, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Miller seems to have lost his competetive edge

He’s just no the guy he was some years ago

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jun 26, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too many injuries

he has lost a step and sees little floor time, besides he has never been much of a defender.. An expensive oft injured guy is not what this team needs.

by betweentheeyes on Jun 26, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

I am truly excited today. Tomorrow I will forget because of the USA vs Ghana match, but I will remember again when I turn on the radio to go to work on Monday! It is a great time.

by LOUiECOG on Jun 25, 2010 12:16 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

Word.

Big ups for team USA.

Get well, Coach Wooden.

Geoff Petrie, draft us an athletic big with post moves please.

by JETisKing on Jun 25, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Turning point

I’ve been on cloud 9 since yesterday at about 5PM PST.

by WhentheKingswinyouwin! on Jun 25, 2010 12:17 PM PDT reply actions  

speaking of filling up the arena

I was just on kings.com, and it looked like they had some really good deals on season tickets.

by markdog333 on Jun 25, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to pick up some tickets as well

Haven’t had the spare cash to do so the last few years, but I can probably work in a half dozen games or so this season.

"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."

by otis29 on Jun 25, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good to hear, Otis

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Jun 25, 2010 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tony Allen

is too much like Tyreke last year with a dribble drive mentaility and no outside shot. I do like the idea of Carlos Arroyo though.

by LOUiECOG on Jun 25, 2010 12:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Excellent post. Rec'd

Very nice overall recap of where the Kings stand now. Time will likely bear out that the Kings were the winner of this draft. If Whiteside should go to the d-league, does that open up another roster space?

I can see Nate Robinson coming to the Kings, given his performance in the playoffs. I do not see a return of Sergio.

If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Jun 25, 2010 12:21 PM PDT reply actions  

No, players sent to the d-league are still on the roster and part of the team salary.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
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by HighTops on Jun 25, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great post.

Redick shot makes him an interesting prospect at SG

Nate would be an energy guy, and Allen could be the defensive stopper next to Tyreke, but I see both those guys getting paid too much this offseason.

Roger Mason Jr. might be interesting as well.

"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."

by SactoRyan on Jun 25, 2010 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Very good post… very uplifting and it is a VERY VERY good time to be a Kings fan. We should already be planning the sactownroyalty gathering at arco since tickets might be in more demand!

by SKingsFan on Jun 25, 2010 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

you forgot

Jesus Shuttlesworth…. can he still defend?

Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.

by Shadrack on Jun 25, 2010 12:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't consider Allen a real target

I think a contender will overpay.

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by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Key word "Target"

I would agree. But Damn… Reke and Ray Ray Comic Strip… is appealing.

Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.

by Shadrack on Jun 25, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Tony Allen

Ray Ray is making way to much money.

by g4y Vulture on Jun 25, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

No thank you

Tony can’t shoot.

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by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

We need a Doug Christie/Bruce Bowen/James Posey type.

"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."

by otis29 on Jun 25, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think an average defender would be okay for the team, as it stands right now.

Hopefully, Donte will continue to upgrade his defense and he can become the key defender we need when we are a playoff team.

by clicc916 on Jun 25, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe we can actually get James Posey

NO is looking to cut costs.

"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant

by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 2:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'd go after Rasual Butler if you want a player in that mold.

He’s almost a clone of Posey, and he’s a UFA.

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ray Allen is 35 next month

don’t think he has many years left! Unless he’s Mutombo and plays until he’s 40..lol

by g4y Vulture on Jun 25, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You forgot Rasual Butler

from the clippers. He’s a good shooter, veteran, and will be cheap.

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Outlaw

I know i don't know it all... its just what my parents call me

by Mr. Know it all on Jun 25, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

NaVeteran

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I completely agree.

We will be contending for the whole thing in 3-4 years.

I want a good sized combo guard, and one pure point.

We NEED one very good shooter.

I am with Shadrack. I am very much for Ray Allen if we can get him for only a two year deal. WE can overpay. Money is not remotely an issue currently, and Allen will not get anything close to a max deal.

I’d like Allen and Blake. I do love Morrow. I’d settle for him and Blake.

by Hoops Mike on Jun 25, 2010 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Totally agree on the shooter

To me the biggest needs now are (1) a consistent deep threat and (2) a consistent distributer. I really appreciated Beno’s effort last year and trust he will bring it again this year. But let’s face it, Beno is a 2 in a 1s body. If we had another distributer, I’d love seeing Beno come off the bench backing up 2 and 1. And we know he comes off the bench well and brings instant offense.

It’s sure nice to be excited about this team.

by Kusian on Jun 25, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reddick

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on Jun 25, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blake & Morrow are very doable.

I am 100% behind signing Steve Blake to be our “pure point”, albeit off the bench where he’s so good at changing the pace and setting up his teammates. Hell, he supplanted Baron Davis last year as a starter…not saying Davis was all that good last year, but it is something!

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

steve blake would be an interesting piece to this team, but he is more of a pg; he'd be a great player coming off the bench behind beno or vica versa

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's a good backup point for sure

He ususally tears us up, plus he is a pretty solid shooter from the games I’ve seen him in.

Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
That just happened.

by darkadun on Jun 26, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

He should stay at Staples and play for the Champs.

unpopular setiment but that is a great fit. He is a guy who fits many squads. I guess he would be the 3rd guard here which is also good. A nice fit with Sammy and DMC as he is more pass first. A more reliable less spectacular Sergio.

by betweentheeyes on Jun 26, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Season Tickets?

Has anyone looked at the season ticket plan they are having on the site? Well it is you buy 3 upper level passes and get one free. Is there any interest out there to split it four ways?

by SKingsFan on Jun 25, 2010 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

So Aykis.......

Way to completely crush it with that article.

You covered every goddamned thing related to the present and future Kings in only a few paragraphs.

Super stoked for the dreaded off-season and seeing the 10-11 version of the Kings.

by Devastation Co. MMA on Jun 25, 2010 12:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

redick...

farmar, or morrow.

"When talent is roughly equal," said Westphal, "the competitive guys win. You have to have that in this league. Here's a perfect example: We (the Phoenix Suns) drafted Tim Perry and Dan Majerle the same year (1988). Now, if you get a stopwatch for down and back (baseline to baseline sprint), Tim Perry was faster than Dan Majerle. That's a fact. But if you had them race, Dan Majerle won. I can't explain it. Somehow, he had that drive, that fire, something inside him. If you have enough guys like that, your team starts winning again."

by kingsbruins02 on Jun 25, 2010 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

No on farmar.

dude makes me want to puke all over my shoes.

"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."

by SactoRyan on Jun 25, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know about the vomit.

But the guy was given a ridiculous number of chances to be the guy to replace the Ghost of Fisher and couldn’t even do that. It’s not like the triangle exactly puts a lot of pressure on point guards either. Just hit some shots.

A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...

by Jaycee on Jun 25, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

farmar...

i’m obviously a bit biased. :)

i think he would be a decent one for the kings. about 6’2, decent shot, crafty, a winner (in college and the pros—obviously the talent around him has something to do with that), and still young (23 turning 24). if the kings can get him at a reasonable price, i would go for it.

it’s true that playing in the triangle does not demand much from point guards, but it also suppress some of the things that pg’s can do. it would be interesting to see what he would be able to do in the kings system with evans as his partner.

"When talent is roughly equal," said Westphal, "the competitive guys win. You have to have that in this league. Here's a perfect example: We (the Phoenix Suns) drafted Tim Perry and Dan Majerle the same year (1988). Now, if you get a stopwatch for down and back (baseline to baseline sprint), Tim Perry was faster than Dan Majerle. That's a fact. But if you had them race, Dan Majerle won. I can't explain it. Somehow, he had that drive, that fire, something inside him. If you have enough guys like that, your team starts winning again."

by kingsbruins02 on Jun 25, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

"a winner"

suuure, lets get dj mbenga and adam morrison in here too – winners

no thanks

by lchristmas on Jun 26, 2010 9:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

With you here. I would almost rather have Fisher himself than Farmar, but we could never get the stench of Kobe's jockstrap off of him.

"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant

by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol...

if fisher came to the kings and failed miserably, we, loyal kings fans, would probably rejoice. :)

"When talent is roughly equal," said Westphal, "the competitive guys win. You have to have that in this league. Here's a perfect example: We (the Phoenix Suns) drafted Tim Perry and Dan Majerle the same year (1988). Now, if you get a stopwatch for down and back (baseline to baseline sprint), Tim Perry was faster than Dan Majerle. That's a fact. But if you had them race, Dan Majerle won. I can't explain it. Somehow, he had that drive, that fire, something inside him. If you have enough guys like that, your team starts winning again."

by kingsbruins02 on Jun 25, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

He would get booed every home game.

I almost want this to happen, for that purpose alone.

"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant

by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

As much as I’d love to have a Bruin here, Farmar owes his career to douce mamba and phil jackass.

Get well, Coach Wooden.

Geoff Petrie, draft us an athletic big with post moves please.

by JETisKing on Jun 25, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys are so lucky to have two top-notch talents fall to you in the draft.

Thi is going to make the wc harder. Not only that but in the pacific division eitehr the lakers, suns, clippers or warriors will falter; here’s to hoping that the dubs and clippers are the ones that are hit the hardest

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 12:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Um, sorry, but I root for the Clippers and Warriors over the Lakers anytime, all the time.

Here is hoping Kobe’s deal with the Devil finally catches up with him and the he misses 50 games.

"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant

by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

But we know that they won't be hit hard so the two "real" possibilities

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am very anti-Kobe-missing-games

Becaues then all Laker fans use that as an excuse if their team doesn’t perform well. I want him to be healthy, playing, and the Lakers STILL losing.

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reke Havoc last year

is it run DMC this year?

"And Solskjaer has won it!"

by 'tough as nails' spence on Jun 25, 2010 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

'Reke DMC...

…is the new Shock and Hawes.

A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...

by Jaycee on Jun 25, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great description of the big picture.

2-3 years ago I couldn’t believe an ugly roster could turn so beautiful. I can’t wait for the summer league and the season to begin.

Sergio has signed with Real Madrid if I’m not mistaken :(

by ZenBaller on Jun 25, 2010 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Nate, Morrow, and Redick are on my list

All of ‘em are solid backup guards that can shoot the ball. Redick’s actually a pretty decent defender too. He could possibly be our starter and fulfill my dream of Beno off the bench

#vfettkefordraft

by vfettke on Jun 25, 2010 12:39 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree

I am very high on JJ and Morrow. They both can shoot the ball great and I was really impressed with JJ’s D in the playoffs. He was one of the only guys on Orlando that did anything vs BOS.

by elSAVinator on Jun 25, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Surprising

because he doesn’t have great lateral quickness. Dude, is tough and smart though. And man can he stroke it.

by Kusian on Jun 25, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

no homo

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

He actually came through somewhat for Orlando in the playoffs this year didn't he?

I seem to recall people mentioning that he had stepped up, which is impressive considering how much he’s been jerked around on that team.

A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...

by Jaycee on Jun 25, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

He stepped up quite a bit

I’m even willing to overlook the fact that he played at Duke

#vfettkefordraft

by vfettke on Jun 25, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely agree, Redick works

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on Jun 25, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reddick is not any bigger or any better than Beno.

Seriously, unless we get a shooter/defender over 6’6" we might as well let Beno start and tell him to find his sweet spot outside the arc.

"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant

by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

yea, i certainly have to agree

We want a player than guard the Kobes and Joe Johnsons and Manus, not having Reke pick up any fouls and expend so much energy

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Based on your depth chart

We need a starting 2 ASAP. And if not, Beno is still the better choice to run with Evans.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Jun 25, 2010 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

I still think Beno starts

But yes, we need another two. I just put Cisco at 2 because that’s his more natural position.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll let PW decide where to play players

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by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Luke Ridnour...

….that guy is like the American Ricky Rubio…

by getPGwithbounce on Jun 25, 2010 12:40 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

I don't know about all of that..........

But I do agree that Ridnour would be a great fit…..super efficient, ok defender, and makes open shots.

by Devastation Co. MMA on Jun 25, 2010 12:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Never really been a fan.

Maybe as an inexpensive backup.

A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...

by Jaycee on Jun 25, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wha...huh?

Not better than Beno. Not better than Cisco. Small, can’t defend 2 guards.

"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant

by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jason Thompsons brother?

Did he go undrafted, and if so, any chance the Kings pick him up?

...

by prowseinthehouse on Jun 25, 2010 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Playing for the Kings Summer League team.

As I thought he would.

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by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kept hoping for his name to pop up.

But it looks like JT is going to definitely play in the summer league if his brother is going to be there to try and make the team.

by LOUiECOG on Jun 25, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the Suns got him?

by Charles L. Pierro on Jun 26, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kings vs Thunder...

should be the most exciting games to watch next year. So much young talent on two teams. It will be like awesome watching the two future Western Conference Contenders go at it. I’m just happy all the big time FA’s that are talking about playing with each other, are all speculated to going to east coast teams.

by elSAVinator on Jun 25, 2010 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

The first game I ever attended at Arco was last year, Thunder vs. Kings

It was an awesome game. Westbrook is ridiculously fast in real life, and Durant is freaking huge.

We only lost by 6, which was great

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps there is a nationally telivised game in our future?

I could easily see the powers that be actually WANT to broadcast one of these games

by gregsactly on Jun 25, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can imagine quite a few actually

which is great considering Australia only plays a handful of the nationally televised games.

"So your a Yank? Thats ok, were all just people. People are all the same. But we like Canadians better." - Guy at the grocery store. "wow"

by chenp22 on Jun 26, 2010 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Correction

The CBA requires the minimum roster amount to be at 13. That way there are 390 ‘player jobs’ in the NBA. It’s one of those blessed, arbitrary Union requirements that the NBA obliges on.

by Smills9133 on Jun 25, 2010 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Let's not get greedy now.

If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Jun 25, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

We got lucky with Whiteside falling to us. He was almost this draft’s DeJuan Blair

#vfettkefordraft

by vfettke on Jun 25, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine if they grabbed the Heat deal though

Would have had another good 1st round pick, plus Cook who would fill in one of our open guard spots.

...

by prowseinthehouse on Jun 25, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

But if we had given up the 33,

we wouldn’t have been able to use it on Whiteside. The Heat deal took a second round pick to pull off.

by twasserm on Jun 25, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gani lawal/hassan whiteside/willie warren are all steals; I'm so happy for sacramento

I wish I could watch your games; too bad I live in la

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lol as am I and as did I.

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure if Bkj can even drink a beer.

"So your a Yank? Thats ok, were all just people. People are all the same. But we like Canadians better." - Guy at the grocery store. "wow"

by chenp22 on Jun 26, 2010 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

what is that suppossed to mean?

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 26, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't mean could you

I just meant I didn’t know if you were over 21.

Sorry for being presumptuous.

"So your a Yank? Thats ok, were all just people. People are all the same. But we like Canadians better." - Guy at the grocery store. "wow"

by chenp22 on Jun 27, 2010 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we'd had that mid-first round pick

We probably still would have taken Whiteside with us.

It was pretty amazing that he fell to us at 33, and if Petrie was high on him, he probably would not have risked it.

So a better question would be, if we’d landed Whiteside with #17-19 pick, who would we have taken at 33?

StR Token Female

by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 25, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Westphal said on the radio that they were trying to get a mid 1st rounder

to use on Whiteside. Kings FO is ecstatic he fell to 33.

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by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Landry for James Anderson and a future first, straight up.

"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant

by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

We could definitely get more.

But mark my words, James Anderson will be a top 5 player in this draft, and a star for San Antonio.

"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant

by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he'll be good too

But I’d like to see him good with my own eyes before giving up someone as good as Carl Landry.

by nbrans on Jun 25, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

this, but an interesting idea

I’d also swing the same deal for Xavier Henry

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

fail

You don’t trade a proven commodity LIKE Carl Landry for an unknown

by nbrans on Jun 25, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great article. Geoff addressed the need for shooting yesterday. My dream list goes: Mike Miller (can play the 2, still has plenty left in him), Reddick, Morrow.

Things are certainly looking up for us in Kings land!

I Came, I Saw, I Conquered.

by dspohn55 on Jun 25, 2010 12:57 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I'd list Miller last on the list

he’s got plenty left in the tank but I think one of the younger guys would fit better, especially Redick. But, Miller is definitely an option I’d like to see. Right now he’s overpaid, but at a cheaper price he becomes incredibly valuable and underrated

#vfettkefordraft

by vfettke on Jun 25, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

My problem with Reddick is, he'll likely cost MLE+ money for multiple years

Do we want to spend that kind of money now? I think I’d rather sign a minimum salary guy, either vet on his last legs or undrafted rookie.

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Jun 25, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup yup yup

don’t wanna give long term deal either

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

MId Level Exception.

The name is designed to explain the monetary amount. It’s between a max level & a minimum contract. (Although not really. The MLE is actually about a 1/3 of the Max salary.)

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jun 26, 2010 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've always like Carlos Arroyo

Especially as a backup. Dude can play.

by Deleran on Jun 25, 2010 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

arroyo? If you don't mind me asking but what exactly do you see in arroyo? I think the most intruiging (not-elite) backcourt fa is either j.j reddick or anthony morrow

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude can play street ball in Puerto Rico, but that's about it.

"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant

by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are any of the summer league games televised?

If not, are they posted online or streamed anywhere?

by MDRennie on Jun 25, 2010 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

You can watch them all online at NBA.com

A summer league pass cost like $10 to $15 bucks

by R-Man on Jun 25, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rasual would be nice

I’ve always really liked Rasual Butler. Studly, jump shooting swingman with range is precisely what this roster is in need of.

I Came, I Saw, I Conquered.

by dspohn55 on Jun 26, 2010 12:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hey sacramento can have barbosa for a futur first round draft pick; it is there is petrie wants it

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

damn, I really wish someone would take barbs off the suns hands; we need the cap space, but then again ben wallace contract comes off the books this season

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Serious? Are you serious?

I would do this. 3 years, 7 per for a good 3 point shooter, an athletic combo to pair with Evans.

Plus, he is still in the top 5 fastest players in the league.

"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant

by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, just take his contract off of sarvers hands and you can seriously have him

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I definitely would not do this deal.

It’s just too much money. Beno provides what this guy does already. i mean speed is great, but in the end pts = pts.

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

but barbosa is a pure scorer and can also pass; he has a 6-10 wingspan too

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kings need a true 3 pt shooter

Mike Miller seems to be the best player, but he gets hurt WAY too much… Mason Jr could be interesting

by Screamer on Jun 25, 2010 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

morrow would be a perfect fit for the suns, imo

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes but this is a Kings board..so we get him!

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on Jun 25, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Morrow'd!

Get well, Coach Wooden.

Geoff Petrie, draft us an athletic big with post moves please.

by JETisKing on Jun 25, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Call me a Kings fan

I’ve been a Warriors fan since 1975 (what an exercise in futility!). As a Kentucky resident, I’ve seen every minute Cousins played in college. I just love the guy.
So, this is it. I have finally had enough of the Warriors.
I think the Kings have enormous potential. So I’m jumping on this bandwagon.
From now on, call me a Kings fan!

chronic

by Since1972 on Jun 25, 2010 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I feel bad for you, your team always fails in drafting big men; ekpe udoh doesnt seem to be any different

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not my team anymore!

Last year was about the only time in recent years where I thought the Warriors had the right player. Most times, not. Big, little or in between. Not.

chronic

by Since1972 on Jun 25, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

so what does your screen name mean/stand for

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Followed the A's since 1972.

Despite their current woes, that’s a franchise that has my undying loyalty.

chronic

by Since1972 on Jun 25, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry, but who are the A's?

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

in that case...

Your team is excellent at drafting big men

by gregsactly on Jun 25, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s two Warrior fans in two days. I don’t blame them either, fans have been waiting two decades for the FO to get their shhhtufff together.

by bignerd on Jun 25, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea

But once the team sells and their FO is sorted, Im sure they ll jump back on the bandwagon.

"So your a Yank? Thats ok, were all just people. People are all the same. But we like Canadians better." - Guy at the grocery store. "wow"

by chenp22 on Jun 26, 2010 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am excited to see the television schedule

I presume the national media will give us a little more air time this year.

Hopefully Arco wil be filled up so we dont look like a joke.

by mbcarval on Jun 25, 2010 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

that was a good time

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by chancelot on Jun 25, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

except the lines

but yeah. Awesome time, awesome game. Really glad I wasn’t driving.

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Jun 25, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

it also made us look like a Minor League Baseball team

I hope people start to fill the arena for the basketball that is going to be played in it… oh yeah and for $1 sessions with Kayte Christensen

by mbcarval on Jun 25, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey, it worked

Arco was packed.

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Jun 25, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well done

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jun 26, 2010 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Red he is!

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jun 26, 2010 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Very surprised at all this Mike Miller talk

He’ s really more of a SF. Don’t really see what he brings that Casspi doesn’t already do and more, especially if Casspi can shoot like he did early in the season.

by nbrans on Jun 25, 2010 1:37 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree.

I’m not interested in Miller.

I’m wanting Ray Allen. (The Celtics MAY blow the team up. I don’t think the odds of Allen coming here are as poor as many here suggest.)

I’d be happy with Steve Blake and Morrow/Redick.

by Hoops Mike on Jun 25, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blake and Morrow

that to me is the most realistic scenario with the best value

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe just play Cisco and Casspi/Greene at 2?

"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant

by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Casspi...

He set the Bar Real High… I just hope he can play that level for a full season. I mean… why isn’t that a bigger deal.

Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.

by Shadrack on Jun 25, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they'll bring back Udoka

and Whiteside is a PF. I also think Cisco will soak up a lot of SF minutes once they sign a couple of true guards. I’m thinking a rookie PG and a free agent SG. Morrow would be my priority, but there are some other acceptable options.

"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal

by NewEraKings on Jun 25, 2010 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

From a Bulls fan who followed teh ings back in the early 2000's

you folks are on your way. Can’t wait to see Tyreke and Cousins playing the two man game. Kings are going to kick ass. And you got Whiteside too? Shoot, play DeMarcus and Hassan in the same back court…it could be like the twin towers that we Bulls fans dreamt about with Eddy Curry and Tyson Chandler (only this time it will pan out).

by Carlitro on Jun 25, 2010 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Well done Aykis16

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on Jun 25, 2010 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

The ratings: I give them all a "WTF"

The Kings made huge strides in their frontcourt and the overall rebuilding strategy. Win Win Win on Sammy, DMC and Whiteside.

That said; what is with the ratings people? The TV crew last night was all around lame. JVG said the best draft was for Miami because they got rid of salary? After 4 hours of draft that is all he could say? Are you kidding me? Jon Barry thinks Wes Johnson is the best player in the draf?? He gave Mini his top vote because they drafted the Syracuse star. What about all the other contortions that were the TWolves draft of the night? Again, after watching the Wolves move players back and forth, up and down he ignores all that and says “Wes Johnson will be a star in this league”? San Antonino gets James Anderson (my favorite of the non Walls) and they get a top vote? Just bizarre stuff.

Today, Mannix gives the Kings a B-. I haven’t seen Chad Ford yet but that was my prediction that he would give the Kings.

Is anyone writing any of this dreck down to throw back at these numbnads in the next one to two seasons? Does it matter – No. Does it irritate me – Yes. Should I care – of course not. I will simmer down and go to my happy place now. And forget.
Namaste.

by betweentheeyes on Jun 25, 2010 2:01 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

For a real kick you should read cbssports.com's ratings

No. 5:
Kings select: DeMarcus Cousins, PF, Kentucky
Analysis: Big trouble. Tyreke Evans and the Kings’ four clydesdales: Impressive in the clubs, lottery-bound (again) on the court.
Grade: D

No. 33:
Kings select: Hassan Whiteside, C, Marshall
Analysis: First-round talent who performed poorly in postseason interviews. Not the ideal carpool partner for earlier selection Cousins.
Grade: D

by brianmc27 on Jun 25, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carpool Partner?

Does Whiteside have a license? We know Cousins doesn’t.

by bignerd on Jun 25, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

They use every part of the roadkill in 'Bama.

"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant

by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Classic

Don't say stupid shit. You won’t be perceived as stupid. - pookeyguru

by Kfan in Korea on Jun 25, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love this.

If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.

by Slam_Dunk on Jun 25, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chad Ford gave us an A

said we might have won the draft two years in a row. Nobody else got higher than A-

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can see that

Aminu, Bledsoe, Warren is an amazing haul. Clippers could run the most explosive lineup in the league with Bledsoe, Gordon, Aminu, Griffin, Jordan.

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by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I have to say

I’m not an Aminu fan, but that’s a lineup he could do well in. Just pure athleticism.

by nbrans on Jun 25, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, Warren is paired up with his old buddy Blake.

I’m definitely going to tune into a couple of their games just to see them play together again.

Stay focused, and stay away from unknown females.

by swoosh91 on Jun 25, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clippers if they stay healthy

And Cousins keeps his head straight will rule the Pacific for years. You can bank on it.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clippers & Kings will rule the Pacific is what I mean

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

My wet dream come true.

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thankfully LBJ ain't comin though. Probably ain't going to the Knicks either.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clippers & Kings will rule the Pacific is what I mean

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol, clippers atop the pacific division; where do the lakers go? for years to come it'll be kings duking it out with the lakers and the suns just trying to tread water

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please, don't jinx it by mentioning the Clippers.

Their curse might rub off on us.

"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant

by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chad Ford only gave two solid As out.

Us and the Clippers :) :) :) :)
This is the good chad ford now

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kings did NOT trade away their worst contract...

Cisco is still on the team

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Jun 25, 2010 2:06 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

You can't be serious.

Cisco’s contract is worse than Nocioni’s?

How about we give the guy a season without a freak injury to play with the kids before we throw him under the bus?

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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 25, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly. I'm a cisco fan and hope he can plug into the two for us pretty well.

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by lifestyleforthesellout on Jun 25, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also love Cisco.

We over paid him but the guy can shoot, he’s a great defender, a vocal, passionate leader on the court, great passer…

by caseycheesecake on Jun 25, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

noioni's contract had 2 years left. cisco's has 4 years at 5.5, 5.8, 6.1 and 6.4...

you really think that he gives good value for that length of commitment?
seriously?

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by TrojanCBB on Jun 25, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

cisco

Don’t doubt he is a great guy but not at that money, you could find simlar stats for less money and fewer years.

by Murf on Jun 25, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

thank you.

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Jun 25, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fourth year is a team option.

17.1 million over three years isn’t great but with the Kings cap situation, it isn’t horrible either.

Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.

PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.

***Update***

Cousins can be a major star.

PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.

by jjham15 on Jun 25, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

and I'm late

Please note the 11 next to my name. All others are frauds.

by wallywagon11 on Jun 25, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's ok, I got your back baby.

Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.

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***Update***

Cousins can be a major star.

PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.

by jjham15 on Jun 25, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shaq?

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on Jun 26, 2010 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's 3 years

4th year team option

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by wallywagon11 on Jun 25, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man what did Cisco do to you

You complain about him on every post, every day. Give it a rest!

by elSAVinator on Jun 25, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ridiculous

Garcia is a legit contributor.

One freak injury and many are ready to throw him away.

by Hoops Mike on Jun 25, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really

Lamar Odom 4yrs 35 mil, Gortat 5yr 35mil, Pietrus 4yr 20mil, Birdman 5yr 20 mil, Varajou 5yrs 45mil Just to name a few on contending teams. Cisco’s doesn’t look that bad compared to these, and we have plenty of money this year and next to not have to worry about dumping more players

by elSAVinator on Jun 25, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

you are really going to compare cisco to lamar odom? seriously?

also… i would complain about pietrus just as much. birdman makes at least 10 mill less than cisco. and varajou is a MUCH better player.

just because other teams sign stupid contracts doesnt mean that we should be happy that the kings do it…

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by TrojanCBB on Jun 25, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, to be fair...

Cisco gives it his all everytime he steps on the floor. Lamar is invisable half the time, so it balances out. :P

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by darkadun on Jun 26, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we can trade Cisco and improve the team, do it

If not, he’ll probably play 20-25 minutes a game at the 2-3 depending on what we do as far as picking up a PG and SG. If we can pick up similar talent and cover both the PG and SG positions for about what we play Cisco, he’s still arguably your best 3.

His injury probably opened the door to the playing time Omri and Donte got both at the 2 and 3. In the old days, hurt players got their positions back and I think that will also be the case here when all is said and done.

"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal

by NewEraKings on Jun 25, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Petrie on the Rise guys

said he saw Whiteside as a forward project in the long-term.

by mayfieldcol on Jun 25, 2010 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

WOULD WE TRADE

Sammy for Monta Ellis? I know ball hog, etc… but it would get a high scoring gaurd to play next to Tyreke, would allow us to bench Cisco, get more minutes for our young bigs, and lose very little.

 I think PW could keep Monta in check and turn him into a more conservative player. I would be all for this trade. Thoughts?

Cousins>Landry>>Dally>>>Whitesides>JT>>>>> Brock

by mike murray on Jun 25, 2010 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Now that the Kings have acquired all of this talent all you can post are trades?

How very odd.

Hey, did you know that Whiteside is a concern because of A.D.D. ?

by betweentheeyes on Jun 25, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just looking for a way to get them minutes

And guard is our absolute weakest link. Either starting beno or cisco doesn’t really say playoffs (beno would be my choice to start). I think Monta and Tyreke would be deadly.

Cousins>Landry>>Dally>>>Whitesides>JT>>>>> Brock

by mike murray on Jun 25, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

All of the big guys we just acquired would retire early if that happened. They would never touch the ball.

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by mvhsbball on Jun 25, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats true

But I have much more confidence in PW than Nellie to control Monta. IMO PW could turn Ellis into a different player, but still keep his explosiveness and scoring ability. Who do you think would fit?

Cousins>Landry>>Dally>>>Whitesides>JT>>>>> Brock

by mike murray on Jun 25, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking him or Eric Gordon

But I don’t see them as gettable. I see Monta because the Warriors ddesire to dump contracts.

Cousins>Landry>>Dally>>>Whitesides>JT>>>>> Brock

by mike murray on Jun 25, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Jeryd Bayless?

Cousins>Landry>>Dally>>>Whitesides>JT>>>>> Brock

by mike murray on Jun 25, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Eric Gordon would be a great fit, but...

…as you said, he is probably not attainable. I think Morrow would do just fine, heck I think he’d do better than fine, he could be great next to Tyreke.

by MDRennie on Jun 25, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the first time in a long time, trades are the last thing I want to think about right now.

I want to see this team on the floor. Every player has something unique to bring to the table.

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by SactoRyan on Jun 25, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the first time in a long time

The Kings are top heavy with a stacked front court. In order to get them on the floor, trades have to happen.

Cousins>Landry>>Dally>>>Whitesides>JT>>>>> Brock

by mike murray on Jun 25, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last year

The Kings had: Spencer, JT, May, Thomas, Brockman

Each of those guys found playing time at some point. Now the Kings have rid themselves of May, Thomas, and Spencer and added Dalembert, Landry, Cousins, and Whiteside. That’s one extra.

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by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are we satisfied giving those 4 only like 600 minutes from k9 and may and hawes minutes?

K9’s 12 minutes per game (only 26 games)
Mays 9 minutes a game (only 37 games)
and Hawes minutes

I would prefer not to send Whiteside to D league, but it looks necessary without a trade.

Cousins>Landry>>Dally>>>Whitesides>JT>>>>> Brock

by mike murray on Jun 25, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

May and k9 had 654 minutes
and Hawes had 1904

2558/82 = 31 minutes per game for Sammy, Landry, Cousins, and Whitesides combined…. not ideal.

Cousins>Landry>>Dally>>>Whitesides>JT>>>>> Brock

by mike murray on Jun 25, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

A more realistic approach is

96 big man mins a game for a total of 7872.
Between Landry, Cousins, Dall, Whiteside, JT, Brock split evenly is 16mins a game a piece.
- Cut brockmans minutes and each still only gets 19 a game.
 - U have to figure landry will get 30per game. and everyone else is at 16.5 a game. (2460)
-If dally gets 25 per game (2050) jt,cous, and whitside get 13.6 per game. Would JT,Cousins,or Whiteside be happy with less than 14 per game?

Cousins>Landry>>Dally>>>Whitesides>JT>>>>> Brock

by mike murray on Jun 25, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I imagine, initially at least

Whiteside will also have fewer minutes, bumping JT and Cousins would each get around 20 mpg, which is about right. Factor in possible injuries and foul troubles, and I don’t see it being an issue.

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by Exhibit G on Jun 25, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Completely agree
trades have to happen.

No way. We just need to pick up a few reasonable FA guards.

We need the depth. We lost two begs and added three. Only one more. We needed one more because we had depth problems last year. JT broke his damned back and some of the others were out with injuries, including Brockman.

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by MustangMBS on Jun 25, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keep all the bigs for now

JT will play less, Whiteside and Brockman little, but one injury would change that in a hurry, and this team historically has injuries even if most of those proven bigs are very durable. Hell, Boogie could get hurt going back for seconds.

"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal

by NewEraKings on Jun 25, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

cut brockman

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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 25, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blasphemy!

You… you dirty blasphemer!

This.

by elfboy_ on Jun 25, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say cut "Mr. Know it all"!

Brockman will make the team. He may not have a huge role but he will make the team.

Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.

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***Update***

Cousins can be a major star.

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by jjham15 on Jun 25, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently the Kings have extended the Qualifying offer for Nessie

From Westphal on 1140. Gonna fanshot the news as soon as I can get a legit link.

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by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Voisin mentioned it today too.

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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can you get me a link?

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by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's in the Bee chat off the blog

So it’s not really worth linking to.

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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Westphal was pretty certain about the whole Brockman thing

Kind of a “uh, yeah Brockman will be back, have you gone nuts?” vibe.

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by otis29 on Jun 26, 2010 5:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

GOD NO.

Monta Ellis is a horrible teammate.

Most selfish player in the league. EASILY.

If you are a fan of the one-on-four break, he is your man.

by Hoops Mike on Jun 25, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

[shudder]

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by MustangMBS on Jun 25, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Booooooo

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by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

would the warriors do this deal?

He is probably there best player apart from Curry

I worry that Monta might like being the leading scorer on a bad team, a guy who is only out for his stats. Tyreke and Monta both want shots as might cousins,

I would not confuse PW with Phil Jackson in his ability to get the best out of the talent he has. I don’t doubt he is a decent coach, how good time will tell

by Murf on Jun 25, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

For some reason

When I watch mixtapes of Hassan, he reminds me a little of KG and not Camby like Chad Ford is saying. Plus GP says he wants him as a 4.

by elSAVinator on Jun 25, 2010 2:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I would tend to agree.

I see some KG-esque potential in whiteside. He has that athletic body and great jumpshot like KG. If Hassan ended up being 75% of KG I’d be happy.

by MDRennie on Jun 25, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see him as more of a 4 than a 5 as well

As he develops and hopefully gets stronger he may see some minutes at the 5 in certain lineups, but long-term I see him as a 4.

Just because he is extremely tall and long, it doesn’t automatically make him a center. His game is mostly face-up stuff with a really sweet jumper being his main weapon which makes him a better fit at the 4. I think he has the athleticism and fluidity to step out and guard other 4s. Obviously it all remains to be seen though, and no matter which position he plays he has a lot of work to do.

by TheRaven on Jun 25, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's been said over and over on this site

that the only main difference between being a C and a PF is the skill set. The sizes are usually not the difference makers. We talked about it in relation to Favors being a C or PF.

by caseycheesecake on Jun 26, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where is the poll for which available shooting guard to sign?

I love Morrow. He is the best 3 point shooter in the league right now. He can stretch the floor for Reke and Cousins.

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by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 2:48 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Why do so many think that SD will start over JT?

JT is a much better and more complete player then SD I see SD as a back up and gone after this year just till DMC is ready to contribute more next year.

by Beagle12 on Jun 25, 2010 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Although he was fairly productive at the end of last year

I don’t think that many of us believe that JT is a center.

by babasin on Jun 25, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

He should be a PF. He will be fighting with Landry on who will start there. My guess is Carl will start unless JT shows amazing improvement over the summer.

by LOUiECOG on Jun 25, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think JT played better at center, actually. There was some evidence to back this up somewhere...

But Sam should start for now.

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by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think its because Sammy brings the defense

Which is what Westphal wanted all last year from the 5 position.

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by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He will start, and get minutes, in order to showcase him for February's deadline.

You know Phoenix or SA or Houston or Dallas or even OKC will want him for a playoff run.

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by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

JT played better off the bench

He didn’t have to worry about fouling out and relaxed a lot. His game came together. He just did better and began to look more like the JT we saw at the beginning of the season…

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by MustangMBS on Jun 25, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

we are going to start Jt and landry

But someones gunna shine and start taking spots

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by Mr. Know it all on Jun 25, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good Post

Nate Robinson is the perfect FA combo guard for this team. He is a 5’9" speed merchant with attitude and energy, to complement the stoic nature of Landry and Tyreke. Reminds me of young Bobby Jackson. As long as he sticks to playmaking and tempers his tendency to get shot happy, he can be a valuable addition.

26 year old freak athlete, maturing as a player. Underrated defensively. Despite lack of size, pressures ball well. Just had taste of NBA finals, played key 4th quarter minutes. I love the change of pace he could provide, and uptempo ability as an outlet and run guy to take advantage of our new rebounding strength along frontline. Tyreke is primary ball handler, of course, but he cannot play 48 minutes.

Tyreke can comfortably swing to SG too when Nate and Tyreke are on court together. Nate will also bolster our outside shooting. Can be had for decent price tag too. Fortunately Geoff is fan too, so I think we will inquire on July 1st. Could be our top choice.

I am not a fan of one-dimensional pure shooters, so would exclude:

Anthony Morrow
Kyle Corver
JJ Riddick

We need to add more ball handling and playmaking to a guard line. Not many of the other names on the list interest me. Most all of the guys are not upgrade over Beno or Cisco, so I don’t see a lot of value for your dollar.

by bench_blob on Jun 25, 2010 3:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I would take Redick off the list of one-dimensional shooters

He’s improved a lot in terms of ball-handling and decision making with Orlando. Morrow and Korver though, I agree are one dimensional. Morrow cannot create his shot, defend, or handle the ball. Korver is a tad better at creating, but not much.

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by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

don't you remember what redick did in game two of the ecf? he took the ball to near halfcourt and then called a timeout

I’m not saying that reddick hasnt improved in other areas, but he hasnt improved by much; he’d be a solid fit for this team b/c he is a nice spot up shooter. Someone that evans can pass the ball to him in the corner for a three

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by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

i agree

I take Reddick then Morrow

LaMarcus Aldridge is the most over rated and over paid player in NBA. Tyreke Evans will be better than Brandon Roy this year.

by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 25, 2010 3:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

hey nice sig

but do you really think LMA is really the most overpaid player? over the likes of dampier, mcgrady, Oneal (either of them), bynum?

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by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still expecting Bynum

to get traded to the Raptors on a sign and trade with Chris Bosh going to the Lakers. Just seems like that will happen.

by LOUiECOG on Jun 25, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

fuck that shit

Screw you Knicks! LBJ to the Kings!!!

by Shizzo on Jun 25, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Redick...

can play a little defense too, not trying to diminish his ability, but I don’t see a lot of upside to his game. He benefits from playing in the Magic system, and still struggles to make shots. I hope we stay away from him.

I guess my main point here is we did an awesome job yesterday of adding size and talent. The best complement to size is speed. That allows a team to rebound (size) and run (speed). And it allows you to drive (speed) and finish (size).

Nate would bring speed, and unique talent our roster currently lacks.

In basketball, Speed + size + talent = Wins

by bench_blob on Jun 25, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know if one-dimensional is gonna hurt too much now

If opponents leave a guy like Morrow open at all to help on Evans, Landry, Cousins, then you need a guy like Morrow, who shot 45% from 3.

He is the best 3 point shooter in the league.

We have Cisco and Beno to handle ball-handling duties when Evans isn’t in. We need a guy like Morrow.

Morrow also has a little more size, is a better rebounder, and at least as good a passer as Reddick.

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by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

The primary need...

on the team is more speed, playmaking and ball-handling, not spot up shooters.

Donte, Cisco, and Omri can all shoot. Beno can shoot. Tyreke and Landry are highly efficient scorers. We need a guard who can create open shots, run pick and roll, cause havoc, get into the lane, and drop off to Sammy D and DMC for thunder jams.

Fortunately, Geoff knows this and will likely address next month.

by bench_blob on Jun 25, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

More speed I agree with.
We need a guard who can create open shots, run pick and roll, cause havoc, get into the lane, and drop off to Sammy D and DMC for thunder jams.

Cannot Evans and Udrih do this already? They are better passers and creators than Nate. Nate looks for his shot, and his shot only.

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by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nate is a bench player only.

He negates any advantage of having Evans run the point.

If he is that good, why doesn’t Boston keep him? They need him more than us. We have attitude and energy with Cisco.

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by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who said

Boston won’t try to re-sign him? They may have to commit a lot of dollars to Ray Allen, though, and cannot afford to keep Nate around.

How does Nate negate anything? He can be a spark plug for 15 to 20 minutes a game, and take some of the ball handling responsibility off Tyreke. He is a perfect complementary player. He can play with the ball and without the ball. This is the type of versatility Geoff prefers in players.

by bench_blob on Jun 25, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

How is Nate better than Cisco or Beno off the bench?

He is far from perfect.

He would be fun though.

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by Ice_9ine on Jun 25, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

So

We won’t have Sean May to eat the competition?

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by Hit4TheCycle on Jun 25, 2010 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

lol

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't we have to overpay for all of those guys?

I’m guessing we’ll get a guy who nobody has heard of and he’ll contribute like Ime did last year.

by LOUiECOG on Jun 25, 2010 3:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Why not just keep Ime then

We need somebody who can hit the corner three… Ime ended up not being that guy.

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by MustangMBS on Jun 25, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

You wont have to overpay barbosa!

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by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could Jared Dudley play the 2

and would Pheonix be willing to trade him?

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by nothingbutnet on Jun 25, 2010 4:46 PM PDT reply actions  

he can def play the two, but phx wont trade him and that is for sure, but we can give you barbosa and a future second round pick in exchange

for a future first rounder; barbosa only had an off-year because he was injured practically the whole season. For a team like the kings that 7 mil per year is a bargain because he can still score and provide extremely valuable minutes off the bench. With that said, the reason the suns do want him anymore is because earl clark is waiting in the wings (Clark is def. not fit playing pf at 6’10/225lbs so there needs to be more open space and b/c duz can play the two, barbs services are no longer of use

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus, at the beginninng of the season when jrich was suspended for dui barbosa had to start in his place; he scored 17 of 6-16 against the clippers (the first game)

and in his second game against the warriors he had 24 points on 9-13; barbosa can start too

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The best of both worlds

that’s what we’ve ended up with.

I’ve been a red flag waver, that’s true, and I still have my concerns about Cousins.

At the same time, I’ve also insisted that, in terms of possessing the kind of sheer physical talent that NBA teams want, Cuz should have been the first or maybe second guy off the board. This was a risky pick, but if the kid keeps it together we’ll soon have a legit all-star candidate in the middle. I said my peace about Cousins and now that he’s a King I’ll be hoping for great things and rooting for him big time.

Plus, by having Hassan Whiteside fall into our laps we’ve got a tremendous insurance policy and yet another prospect with incredible physical talent.

And if both guys reach their full potential…. wow… we will have had one of the greatest drafts in recent NBA history. Seriously.

"When the going gets Weird, the Weird turn professional."
(Hunter Thompson)

by Mucho Moss on Jun 25, 2010 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Amazing draft for the Kings.

Really good job! 2 steals in 2 great centers!

Sorry, but does anyone here want to join an NBA Sim League? It’s simulated on NBA 2k10. You get to be the GM of an NBA team, meaning you can make trades, sign free agents, draft players (hopefully as well as the Kings did this draft), and more.

Website: http://officialnba2ksimleague.b1.jcink.com/index.php?showtopic=21

by KGMN on Jun 25, 2010 6:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Greatest time to be a kings fan since webber era :)

hey aykis16: dont put a laker in the list man. the kings wont sign him for sure.
wesley matthews and roger mason jr are great fit to this team.
im a kings fan now, again. its hard to root for them when they’re at the bottom of the west. dont get me wrong, im not bandwagon, im just a fan of bibby that when he left sacto, i switched teams. but sacto is still my team on the west! LETS GO KINGS!

by bibbY10 on Jun 25, 2010 6:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Doug Christie and Vlade Divac used to be Lakers

and they’re all-time favorite Kings.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

doug christie?

really?
divac?yes. but he’s a hornet before we got him right?

by bibbY10 on Jun 25, 2010 6:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Doug Christie and Vlade both played for the Lakers as their first team.

Please use the reply button. And yes Vlade was on the Hornets before we got him. Christie was on the Raptors. The Kings could definitely use a Doug Christie in his prime right about now.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jun 25, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was the draft rights to Bryant

But yes that’s true.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck yea

Even tops Joe Barry Carroll for Robert Parish/Kevin McHale. But only barely.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jun 26, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

it doesn't top the 2 for 1 that Celtics pulled on Warriors

be serious – 2 HOF players who went on to play for another 12 seasons for one wash-out? At least Vlade played good ball for another 8 years, and it was only 1 for 1

by Watty4ever on Jun 26, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great post Aykis

This is a great time to be a Kings fan and I can’t wait to see what next season brings with the new additions. We have seen a lot of movement and it isn’t even the free agent period yet. But my main question is why no one talking about Raymond Felton? I loved watching him in college and I don’t think he has reached his potential yet in Charlotte but he has been a solid PG nonetheless. Felton pushes the ball and is great in the open floor, I can definitely see him running the break with Evans or lobbing it to Cousins/Dalembert for some highlight plays. He also plays good defense. If we could get him and move Tyreke to the 2 and let Beno and Cisco come in off the bench, I think THIS year could be really special year.

by MTBalla on Jun 25, 2010 6:55 PM PDT reply actions  

did omar sanham get drafted?

Draft Day 2009: I was in a Detroit theater about to watch the Hangover when my cousin texted me telling me who the Suns had drafted. I texted him back asking him who the F*ck that was. I shed a tear and told myself: The Suns are going to suck next year and Amar'e is going to be traded and my life ruined. 12 Months later to the day I am looking back at the Suns incredible playoff run to the Western Conference Finals.

by Bkj on Jun 25, 2010 10:49 PM PDT reply actions  

yes. by the australian merchant marines.

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Jun 25, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shannon Brown is going to opt out

If the kings can sign him to a reasonable deal, I say go get this guy. He’s shown flashes of being a really good player. I think their is a good chance he could be this year’s Ariza – a guy that doesn’t re-sign and has a breakout season.

Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
That just happened.

by darkadun on Jun 26, 2010 8:38 AM PDT reply actions  

LOL

Take him, he’s a terrible finished(only dunks), can’t dribble in the open court and tends to have narrow vision on fast breaks. He fell in love with the highlight reel play, and turns the ball over a lot.

His jump shot is streaky, but he is a good defender.

Sweet 16

by bluexfalcon on Jun 26, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

this

Let us usher in the era of Reke DMC!

by Shizzo on Jun 26, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

A Laker fan with truth.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......

Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Jun 26, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

He really isn't that good

He just gets extended national exposure.

Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".

by Aykis16 on Jun 26, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Big, big ups

it’s gonna be great fun to look back on this offseason with a smile in a year or two when the Kings are winning 55 games …. and lovin’ it.

If even 2 of DMC, Landry, JT, Donte and Omri reach their ceilings, and Reke develops a dependable J shot and is willing to get everyone involved …. DAMN!

by Watty4ever on Jun 26, 2010 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

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