A Beautiful Mind.
First of all, Let me formally introduce myself. My name is BearKing. That's me in the middle with the goofy sminle on my face. Long time troller, first time poster. So, be gentle with my Post virginity... Because you never forget your first. This post is about the newest king Mr. DeMarcus Cousins. Now, i know what your thinking. Ah crap, not another one. But I assure you ladies and gents, i offer a different perspective on what I believe is a rather over exaggerated and misunderstood part of what makes DeMarcus Cousins feared by the teams who passed over him and even more so with the team and its fans that he is now a part of. His Mental state of mind. So if your interested in following me down the rabbit hole, hold on to your knickers and join me as we venture deeper into the abyss after the jump.
If you look back on the greatest players the NBA has ever had, you will find one thing that every single one of them possessed in one way or another. Some call it a killer instinct or the "IT" factor. It is thesupreme and utter confidence in oneself to over come all odds, even when everything seems to be going against you. Michael Jordan had it. So did Bird, Isiah, Magic and the Devil himself; Mr Kobe Bryant. These players excelled not only because they were Gifted, but because they had that certain something that made their motor run a little differently than everyone else.
You can call it what you want. Grit, Determination, Guts, Swagger, Arrogance, Chip on his shoulder, AssHoliness or born without a conscience. But it takes a certain type of person to look at everyone else around him and say "I am better than everyone else here i will put my team on my back to win and there's nothing you can do about it." And have him believe right down to his core and deliver.
Tyreke, man you know that kid's got it.
Am i saying that I believe DeMarcus to be one of these elite players?
Hell no. Are you high? The kid hasn't even play a minute of pro ball yet.
What i am saying however, is that not all the great players were easy to get along with. Why don't you ask Pau Gasol how he feels about Kobe yelling at him for not catching of his his errand passes, when clearly it was his fault and not Pau's. (Stupid Jerk. Come back to Sacramento and let me treat you to another EColi ridden hamburger, Douchebag.) See, what makes these players great, also make them a pain in the arse to play with.
One case study i can offer is one using Shaquille O'Neil vs Dwight Howard. You can argue that they both have similar type of game, body type, athleticism and weaknesses. The only thing that separates them is the stark contrast in their EGOS. Their mind set. As Howard is a sweet fun loving guy and will try to dunk on you. Shaq is more of arrogance, personified and he will try to destroy you and tear down the basket in the process. It is my firm belief that even if they are a close as they come physically, Howard will never reach the heights of domination that Shaq had. Shaq had that killer instinct. Do you remember when he called every NBA center "Bums." when compared to him? That's the bravado i speak of and love with Cousins. Howard would never do such a thing, he far too well mannered. We as Kings fans know how much of a force he was in his prime than Howard is at the very moment. Granted, Howard has not quite peaked yet and he has shone more of his nasty side this year, thus making him a better player, in my opinion.
But a zebra can't change it's stripes, no matter how much he tries. He could blackmail the most popular girl at school, to have her pretend to be his girlfriend to make it seem that he too, in association with her is now popular.. but in the end, your still that guy you were before everything else. I love that movie.
Tyreke is one piece of that puzzle and you know that kid's got it. We need more players like him. Hard nosed players who don't want to make friends on the court and hate losing as much as they need air to breathe.
The point is, DeMarcus has "it". He has the confidence, the FIRE in his belly that burns bright. Sure he's emotional. But that's what i LOVE about him. When i see Kevin Garnett in all his glory, full blown, with the chest pounding, ear splitting screams that makes you wanna curl up and a little ball and cry for mommy. It makes me long for someone on our team to bring that sort of nastiness and pent up athletic anger that would make kobe shit his yellow shorts.
Don't ya'll miss that angry face C-Webb would bust out on a nasty dunk? Yeah, me too.
He claims that he's the best prospect in the draft. And if it wasn't for John Wall, I'd agree with him. A tie I say. Which brings us to why teams passed on him and some of our members showed little enthusiasm for drafting the Big man. (Yeah, I'm taking to you Pookey. Just kidding man.)
So he hit a guy while they were scrambling on the ground for a lose ball, so what? The other guy hit him first. The man has a right to defend himself, doesn't he? One of my fondest moments as a kings fan was when Doug Christie decked Rick Fox. I will remember that to cheer me up during my dark days. And Mr. Jackie Christie or (Doug as we know him) was the most even tempered guys out there. So what makes this any different? If you just imagine DeMarcus laying out Shaq with a little forearm action during that series and i believe that would have been one memory everyone here would have cherished just as much as the Christie beatdown.
So he yelled back at his coach and now he's a head case? Listen, we have all heard Coach Cal say that he and his wife both consider DeMarcus as one of their sons. He doesn't say that about all his players, at least from what I have heard, so i'm inclined to believe him. (Let me know if I'm wrong.) And that the arguments they had were like a father getting into it with his son in public. Now, your telling me that every person that has talked back to their parent or even got into a screaming match with them in public, is a bad person? Then I must be Bi-polar myself, because I myself am guilty for doing this. (Sorry, Mom. But your just too over bearing sometimes)
You guys see Lebron yell at his own mother to sit down? Yeah, me too. This doesn't make him a bad person. Doesn't make him want him with the kings less. And of course, he loves his momma... and apparently so does Delonte from what i hear.
via dimemag.com
Give Delonte some sugar baby.
I see the Derrick Coleman comparison and for the most part, i think they're valid. But I'd like to offer another NBA great that i think fit him a little more than Coleman as far as attitude, demeanor and swagger. I'm taking about Sir Charles Barley of course. If you like Chuck as much as I do and see what I see, then you sir are as smart and good looking as I am.
What, you don't see it? Maybe a Coleman/Barkley hybrid then.
My point is... instead of looking at DeMarcus' qualities as a crutch that will be his end, why not see it as the FIRE that keeps his motor running and motivates him to become one of the elites? Because, in the end.. This is what separates him from from the Darko Milicic's of the NBA. His borderline delusions of grandeur and the total belief in himself will allow him to succeed, because lets face it... Sometimes all you need to succeed in this league is a little bit of Confidence.. and pinch of crazy on top.
He's not out there to make friends and make nice with everyone. Call me crazy, but i like that. If you watched his intro video with Hassan, then you can see that he's just a fun loving kid and not the monster that other have made him out to be. Lets embrace Big Cuz and all his nastiness and swagger. Who knows, you might even enjoy him as much as I am. And when in doubt, just remember.."In Petrie we trust."
Go KINGS!!!
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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@ Maiku
Don’t tell your brother you troll Lakers sites all night at work. You guys shouldn’t hide your desire to be the Lakers fans…even jacking the Purple…shameless!
Next time....
I will kill you at work.
Sacramento Kings DESTROYER of Playoff hopes, one game at a time !!!
Hey did you show them
Your Gasol Jersey?? Don’t hide just cuz he’s family man…sometimes you gotta be your own man and if that means liking a team that doesn’t blow…well…you gotta do what you gotta do. I like MJ5’s pic below here BTW. Does that say “Lakers SUCK” or “Lakers Win CHAMPIONSHIPS?” I can’t tell…my eyes have been bad ever since the lights and confetti went off after we beat Boston. They couldn’t handle the greatness I guess. I don’t expect you to understand…..
by 2.0SecondsWHAT on Jun 28, 2010 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Next time
I’m charge your getting all the shitty patients!!!
Sacramento Kings DESTROYER of Playoff hopes, one game at a time !!!
You're right
That is worse than death….A lineup of 15, 27, 23 and 7 would send me into MI or make me quit…either way you win since I wouldn’t troll on your Purple page anymore…
by 2.0SecondsWHAT on Jun 28, 2010 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Shaq and Howard are very different
Shaq was a lot stronger even as big as Howard is. Howard is much more athletic and faster. He doesn’t have Shaq’s skill level either. Shaq had copious go to moves. Shaq also is the better passer. Howard is the better defender.
Fuck the Lakers...Oh sorry the Fakers
I'm sitting here thinking about 3 of the players you mentioned and one you left out.
Webber, Barkeley, Coleman, and Rasheed Wallace (would love to throw Amare in here but considering he is in the middle of his career I think I will leave him off to the side). Although I personally think they all had more talent than Cousins when they were younger (maybe not Coleman though), nevertheless, his “Swagger” or whatever is pretty similar to those players. They all had an impact in the league and had a Hall of Fame career.
Here’s the problem though.
Webber went to Golden State in a draft day trade. He had a great rookie season but got into a huge fight with the coach and ended up traded after just one year for Tom Gugliotta and three first round picks. After that, Webber played four years for Washington. He got into the playoffs once. Along the way, he complained about food served on the charter plane, publically criticized the front office for not consulting him on roster changes, made a throat slashing gesture towards fans in a game which pissed everyone off, and went to court over some minor traffic offenses, assult on a police officer case, resisiting arrest, and possession of marijuana. He also flaked out on the team twice when they tried scheduling a comercial shoot for the team. Then he was traded to the Kings, first said he would refuse to show up, but did and everything went okay. He was 25 when he came to the Kings.
As a Kings fan, I loved Webber. But the fans of the team that drafted him? I have a feeling they weren’t a fan of his attitude when he was younger. Same goes for the Wizard fans.
As for Rasheed, he was drafted by the Wizards but traded to the Blazers for Rod Strickland after just one year. Sheed played over 7 years in Portland. The guy made it to the Western Conference finals and had some really successful seasons there but he kept getting into fights with the officials and had a few legal problems off the court. Sheed was able to break the record (again and again) for most technical fouls in a season and was eventually suspended for 6 or 7 games for threaning a ref after a game. People in Portland got tired of his act and he was later traded away to Atlanta and then Detriot. Since then he has played in Boston.
Detriot obviously loved him and he helped bring them to two Finals appearances and they even won it. I just have to wonder how much the Blazers fans look fondly back at the Sheed years. Was it all worth it? I know a few who don’t look back at it too fondly.
Then there is the brightest example in Charles Barkeley. Never won a ring but he played for Phili for a number of years at an MVP level before demanding a trade after (a) the team failed to win much and (b) some controversy in Phili over Barkeley spitting on a little girl in the crowd (was trying to spit at someone else). He went on the Phoenix, have an MVP season there and go to the finals and then had a good run in Houston. I am pretty sure Phili fans look back at his years fondly but there were some bumps along the way.
Then there is Derrick Coleman, the most depressing example. No real need to go into here but, needless to say, it didn’t really work out in Phili.
Basically I like these players as comparisons to Cousins. They had their “Swagger” and were very talented. For the most part they had successful careers but they also burned a lot of bridges when they were younger. Cousins, like these high profile bigs before him, is under a media microscope and everything he does and everything that happens around him, he will be judged (regardless of whether it’s fair or not). I hope he can handle it, but hey he’s a kid and it’s not easy. I just hope he doesn’t end up burning bridges early on in his career like Sheed, Coleman, or Webber. I would hate to have to look back 15 years from now thinking “Hey Cousins had a pretty nice career. Too bad the Kings had to move him out of Sacramento after only 5 and a half years. He turned into a really solid veteran.”
Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?
by wallywagon11 on Jun 28, 2010 1:14 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Good perspective
I hope DMC keeps it positive.
I still feel like a relative newbie basketball fan, when I hear all of this past history about players.
I caught the BB fever about 5 years ago, so the tales of old are new to me. For instance, I have no clue who Derrick Coleman is. Cousins keeps getting compared to him, but I don’t think I want to know because Coleman sounds like he was such a disappointment to his fans.
I wasn’t aware of all the former problems for Chris Webber. All of my images of Chris are positive. I like to think that whatever went so wrong for him, he was able to turn it around to be successful. I love Charles Barkley. I actually like the comparisons of Cousins to him to a point. Barkley is so irreverent, which I like. He just says what he thinks and doesn’t care what anyone thinks of him. Both Cousins and Barkley are bright, articulate, funny as all get out, have weight issues, and extremely talented.
I would like to think that Cousins may follow a similar path to Barkley. We can expect some controversy with someone like Barkley and in the same sense, we can expect there will be some controversy with Cousins. For me, it is not so much a question of whether there will be issues, it is more a matter of when. It is going to happen. Not once, but probably a number of times in his career. Hopefully, none will be as serious as the one Ron Artest was involved.
I do think that the Kings franchise is going to do what it can to help Cousins navigate potential problems to help him make good decisions. Paul Westphal is a good coach and seems to be taking Cousins under his wing, in the same way that Calipari did. As to your point, Wally. I hope that Cousins doesn’t burn his bridges early in his career. I think the Kings organization is going to do all it can to keep the matches out of his hands. If he does burn the bridge, I think they will be there to help him re-build it. (At least that is my hope.)
The good thing – Cousins is getting off to a great start here in Sacramento. He has touched down and fans love him. His time with Petrie, Westphal, and fellow teammate, Whiteside is a bonding experience all-around. Cousins seems to be having a lot of fun here. I foresee great things for this young man.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
I have no clue who Derrick Coleman is.
You’re better off not knowing.
I love Charles Barkley
Except when he was spitting on kids, telling people why he wasn’t a role model or throwing guys threw windows in an Orlando bar. Barkz has had his moments as these guys all tend to do.
I foresee great things for this young man.
I can’t imagine how anyone sees anything in a crystal ball for DMC. Is that cynical? Hell yeah it is. But the reality is that it’s ignoring some of the lesser side’s of DMC too. Those aren’t going away.
I personally like DMC, but feel there is enough wrong with his game on the court and in his personality that he can be thrown off the track. I’m not worried about him being a bust; he’s simply too talented for that. I’m worried about whether the Kings can count on him when trying to win a championship.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
The wonderment of NBA basketball is that guys like Barkley can make mistakes, but still be able to come back from them to achieve success. When there is great talent, people can be very forgiving.
As for DMC, I don’t think I made any unrealistic claims for him. I did point out that I expect that there is going to be some controversial issues that will come up for him. I am not looking the other way and sugar-coating anything. But, I also know, that NBA players can make mistakes, but be able to move forward in their careers. At his core, Cousins is a great guy. He might do something dumb in the heat of the moment, but he is not a mean and nasty person. Are you cynical? Yeah, you are, I think. Sometimes I want to strangle you (kidding, of course), because I want you to jump on the Cousins bandwagon with the rest of us.
I might be giving Cousins too much credit for his game skills. That could be my inexperience as a fan and general overall knowledge of the history of other players in the game. You certainly have far more knowledge in this area, than I do. As for your concern about whether the Kings can count on him when trying to win a championship, that certainly is a crystal ball question, to which I have no answer.
The likelihood is that the Kings are not going to make the playoffs this season, unless all the planets align. The planets did align for us to have Cousins fall into out laps, so I don’t want to count out that possibility, just yet. Call it the Pollyanna complex, if you will, but sometimes I can be downright positive. So, a championship is at least 2-3 years away, at best, and more likely 4 or 5 years away. A lot is going to happen between now and then for DeMarcus. As I said, I do foresee great things for him. As you said, he is just too talented to be a bust. He is 19 years old now, he will have several years to mature by then.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
As far as skills Cousins has 'em all
Other than Pau & Yao he might end up being the most skilled big in the L. Given that he’s a big body and has nice athleticism (it’s not great but good) and has long arms that’s not a bad thing to have. His skills are completely legit.
I have nothing against being positive either. I’m positive about this Kings team and I hope for DMC making a positive contribution and down the road. I’m not sold that he will or won’t and I probably won’t ever be. I’m not waiting for the other shoe to drop either. It’s just that when you have a history of issue’s issue’s will come up. It’s not a matter of if but when with DMC. The question is what and how much of an “issue” it is. In the best of worlds, teams have issue’s anyway.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
You're getting there.
You like Cousins’ skills, but you are not certain whether you want to make that commitment. With his history of issues, there is concern that something can happen, which will affect his place on the team. I respect that.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
Did I say I didn't like Cousins skills?
I didn’t say that.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I realize that you didn't say that you didn't like Cousin's skills.
I meant that you are not quite there with the emotional commitment to get fully on board with Cousins, in the event he could let you down.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
I am not looking the other way and sugar-coating anything. But, I also know, that NBA players can make mistakes, but be able to move forward in their careers
My only concern is that he moves on with another team but yeah I hear you Slam_Dunk.
Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?
by wallywagon11 on Jun 28, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Those franchises also panicked in several cases too.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That is my concern, too.
Fortunately, DMC doesn’t have his license, so there won’t be any DUI’s for him in the near future. The franchise does not seem to have much tolerance for a DUI, given the history of Musselman and Nocioni.
I think Cousins is going to like it here, as a lot of players do. Even Ron Artest wanted to stay and Cousins already said that he likes the weather here. I am hoping that all these young guys on the team will form a close bond with each other. There is a lot to be said about looking forward to getting up in the morning to go to work. So many players have commented about how much they appreciate the Kings personnel.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
I don't think the DUI had much effect in Noc's departure
He wanted out and the franchise wanted to move him for something good rather than just agreeing to a buyout. As far as Muss? There was the PR fallout, but had the Kings won 45 games or so Muss would have been fine. The real issue by that point was how Muss’ handled the team.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Wow I wish I just wrote all my thoughts in a damn fanpost.
I agree with the thought that a lot of the worries about Cousins are because he is still a kid. Totally get that.
Someone also said something a day or two ago (sorry I forget who) about how with Cousins, you can’t try and force him to be someone he is not. You have to accept him for who he is. I think that statement is 100% true although maybe I think about it in a different way than the person who said it.
In my opinion, Webber, Barkely, and Rasheed all had a similar attitude to Cousins when they came in the league. They were not bad people and they weren’t lazy. They were competitive and weren’t followers. They were opinionated, passionate, and spoke their minds (In my opinion they were 3 of the most interesting players ever. I love talking about them). They wanted to be respected and didn’t like it when they didn’t get any. This attitude I think is a part of what made them such huge pains in the butt when they were young but when they got older and a little wiser? For the most part they became great lockerroom guys, leaders, and were respected as smart players.
I think their “attitude” or “swagger” played a huge role in how their careers turned out, for the most part for the better but at the same time it did limit them in some ways. With Sheed, he never got away from the stigma of being a hot head and was very off and on. Webber never quite became the best power forward of his era even though he had the skills (although to be fair, having your knee pop out in ways it shouldn’t doesn’t really help ones cause). Barkeley never quite got the championship and had a hard time staying in shape but at the same time it is kind of hard to complain about his career. They were great but they also had bumpy patches that did affect the franchises they played for, which even lead to trades or fans being pretty pissed off.
Like I said above, throughout their careers, they still were the type of players who (like Cousins) you couldn’t force to be like other star players. Barkeley still told people “I am not a role model.” But people still tried to do it. It was inevitable.
Here’s my point. Cousins is likely going to have his “swagger” for his whole career. Right now, given he is a kid. Like most kids with “swagger”, he seems a little immature and it might cause some problems in the first few years of his career. Hopefully he can get through the growing pains without burning bridges with the organization or the fans because there will be growing pains. Just like with Webber, Sheed, and Barkeley, the casual fans, the media, or even the Kings organization will try to force Cousins to be someone he is not. It is inevitable. It happens all the time. Fans will get pissed about his effort some day or about his attitude, the media will jump on him if anything off the court happens, and the Kings will have their own lockeroom spatz and also try and contain any public problems. People will try to force Cousins to be something he is not. Cousins is not a follower. He is not the guy who just goes along with the plan. He wants a purpose. He wants a voice. A lot of people in the media, society, and within the NBA do not like it when young players are not followers or share their own opinions or thoughts. This will not always go well.
I am not trying to throw the guy under the bus here but things will happen, good and bad. Personally I think it is more fair to view him as the player he is than the view him as the guy I want him to be. He is who he is. I am not writing this to say “I told you so” whenever anything happens. That is not the point. My point is that if something does happen people don’t overract. I don’t want to see people rushing to defend him just for the sake of defending him (like Tyreke getting handcuffed) and I don’t want to see people rushing to throw him out out of town (like what happened with Kevin Martin and the fans booing him at Arco). If Cousins’ youth shows, people will understand this was part fo the package. Cousins is who we thought he was.
Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?
by wallywagon11 on Jun 28, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah the social route of the NBA and it's management has a very different view on things than a player like Barkley/Webber & the like.
That’s the way it’s always been. That struggle for power will always be there. What’s interesting is what happens if Geoff Petrie is retired and this stuff isn’t settled. That’s the wild card here I think.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Ug somehow missed a part
Like I said above, throughout their careers, they still were the type of players who (like Cousins) you couldn’t force to be like other star players ….
Webber while in Sacramento still had an arguement or two with the media (remember when the media was asking him about Tyra Banks and he got pissed and and went on about how “I play for you all, I don’t work for you all”) and even had a drug suspection (I always wondered if it was weed or steroids. Always thought it could be steroids given he was recouping from such a devestating injury).
Barkeley still told people "I am not a role model." But people still tried to do it. It was inevitable.
Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?
by wallywagon11 on Jun 28, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
This (responding to this comment and the one before it) would have made a great fanpost.
You made a lot of really good points. I agree 100% with the statement you made about accepting Cousins for who he is. He seems to be a great guy and I think that he just wants to be appreciated and respected for who he is. He is not going to change for anyone and will resist any attempts to do so. That said, I also agree with you about not making the mistake of running to his defense, if he does something wrong. (I could see myself doing this.) But, also not overreacting if he does something wrong. I can see other fans guilty of doing this.
As I have said before, I believe that Cousins will benefit from a combination of support and structure, which I think you were getting at, Wally. We give the guy our support, but we also expect him to behave appropriately. If he gets out of line, then Westphal (or Petrie) discipline him appropriately.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
I think there are a couple of things working in favor of keeping Cousins on track in Sacramento
One of those things is Tyreke. I really think that ‘Reke, even as soft-spoken as he is (at least publicly), commands a great deal of respect in the league already. I think that DeMarcus is aware that no matter how talented he is and how successful he becomes, there’s still only a slight chance that he will ever be clearly the best player on this team. At best, Tyreke and DeMarcus will be 1a and 1b. In my mind, that should take a lot of the pressure off of Cousins and defuse some potential frustration.
I know that may seem a bit counter-intuitive, as usually you would assume that every ambitious player wants to be known as the best in the league, let alone their own team. But look at what’s happening right now with the Superstar Free Agency Frenzy. Each of those guys (LeBron, Wade, and Bosh primarily) seem to have their heart set on pairing-up with one or both of each other. They’ve each decided that they’d rather dominate together and share the glory than to continue being the lone superstar on a team that may never reach the top. Tyreke and Cousins may not feel the same way so early in their careers, but I think it’s reasonable to hope that they do.
What is so thrilling and unique about the Kings situation now is that they have drafted two potential superstars in back-to-back years. If Tyreke and DeMarcus can manage to both reach their potential together, they could have unparalleled success in their careers, and could conceivably be considered one of the greatest duos of all time. Seriously. It’s by no means a sure thing (even the ‘Reke side of it, let alone Cousins), but I think it’s a reasonable goal. They could be Shaq-Kobe minus the friction and assholishness, and also with parallel careers (similar age, hopefully similar primes). And I honestly imagine it’s a conversation that Tyreke and DeMarcus will have soon, if they haven’t already. Obviously, that goal will require both guys to play nice and to work together, and I can’t imagine a greater motivation for a player to stay focused on those things.
The other thing playing in DeMarcus’ favor on this team is the youth and character of our roster. In my mind, what made the Glory Years Kings so successful and so special was their character. They genuinely liked each other, on and off the court, and they played for each other as much as they played for themselves. I think this Kings team has the same potential. While DeMarcus certainly does seem to have quite an ego, he also seems to be a hell of a teammate (a la vintage Webber?). Ultimately, I see these guys bonding in such a way that winning will always mean winning together, and losing means losing together. I feel pretty certain that when Vlade, Peja, Doug, or Chris missed a big shot or made a mistake, they knew 100% that their teammates were still behind them and wouldn’t hesitate to put the game in their hands again on any night. I can see this team reaching that some day. Again, it’s no sure thing, but it is my hope.
I’m not sure if Barkley, Sheed, Webb, or Coleman were in a similar situation at the beginning of their careers, but I doubt that they were. I really feel like this Kings team is unique. None of us know how it will play out, but I think it’s difficult to project DeMarcus’ career or the Kings’ future success based on examples from the past, as these guys are in many ways navigating uncharted waters.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 28, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd
Not sure quite why but this comment kind of pumped me up. It was the equivalent of a cup of coffee.
Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?
by wallywagon11 on Jun 28, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
To be compared to the magnificent liquid lifeforce is truly an honor.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 28, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah it's good points.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
You took the words right out of my mouth. I agree wholeheartedly with this.
I remember Jerry mentioning on the radio on how he believed that the core guys here were solid enough character wise, that it would help a guy like Demarcus to stay out of trouble.
I like the character of the roster, but I do get a little nervous about players holding each other to a higher standard. Just haven’t see that yet with these players although (a) they are young and haven’t exactly been around for a long time and (b) there is no reason yet to think they won’t police themselves (other than just the fact they are young).
That being said, one thing I completely ignored about Cousins is that he seems to actualy be a pretty darn good teammate. I know he didn’t want to talk about his coach but at the least he knew not to say anything and he seemed to be “one of the guys” at Kentucky.
Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?
by wallywagon11 on Jun 28, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I know what you're saying about them not yet holding each other to a higher standard
But I disagree a bit, because I would say that each of the Kings young players, with the exception of Spencer, met or exceeded expectations last year. ‘Reke was ’Reke. Omri suprised pretty much everyone. Donté made a huge jump from his first year, even if his season in total was lacking consistency. JT reinforced the promise that he showed in his rookie year, and while he also struggled a bit with consistency and didn’t make as huge a jump as Donté, he did improve significantly in some areas and probably developed more than most people expected of him. Even Jon Brockman showed he has a place in the NBA, one of the most impressive 2nd rounders of the year.
My point is, yes we lost a lot of damn games last year and it’s easy to feel let down by that. But we were one of the youngest teams in the league (as you mention), both age-wise and experience-wise, but rarely were these guys clearly overwhelmed on the court. To me, the only major personnel letdown last year was Spencer, and now he’s gone. The rest of the guys genuinely seem to me like they’re focused on winning and they’re doing their best to get there, for the most part.
Also, watch this again and tell me that these guys don’t push each other.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 28, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Gives me chills every time.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 28, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That was an amazing game, but our guys showed that scrappy attitude throughout the season, regardless of what team they were up against.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
I'll never forget what happened by the end.
I was in the worst sports bar of all time that was playing MNF instead of the Kings game and nobody cared about it. Me & a couple of black guys seemed to be the only ones who were noticing that the game was at historic levels. It was rather sad.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Aw...
That is sad, but at least you had somebody to share the moment with. I was watching it at home, turned to another channel when Kings were behind by 30 points. When I turned back near the end of the game, I could not believe what I was seeing. I did get to see the end. I had not discovered StR at that time, so I was sharing my excitement on Amick’s Sac Bee In-game blog. I then watched the game in its entirety on the cable’s rerunning of the game.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
No I was on StR too
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh. Then you were fine.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
I really liked your comments ASSN, but have a different point-of-view on a couple of things. Reke'd
I think that DeMarcus is aware that no matter how talented he is and how successful he becomes, there’s still only a slight chance that he will ever be clearly the best player on this team.
Think about DeMarcus for a moment. He says and believes that he was the best player in the draft. I don’t think that he is going to consider himself to be second best on this team. He may concede that he has a little catching up to do coming in as a rookie, but he is not going to be satisfied in being second best.
As you say, Kings drafted two potential superstars back to back. I think these two guys are going to push each other. Both of them want to win games so hopefully, they will cooperate with each other to that end and share the glory. Fortunately, they will dominate different positions – Tyreke the backcourt with Cousins the frontcourt.
Ultimately, I see these guys bonding in such a way that winning will always mean winning together, and losing means losing together.
I see this too, especially since they are all young and share a lot of commonalities with each other. Tyreke and Cousins are both from the Calipari tradition. Greene and Cousins both have amazing personalities and like to have fun. Cousins is bonding with Whiteside by being drafted together and by both being on the summer league. JT will also be on the summer league, so will give them a chance to get to know each other before the season begins.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
I think it is our job as fans to remember these past examples and be patient with Cousins
lest he leave for greener pastures and win a ring elsewhere.
"Seriously guys, why are they pissed off? Because of the rape... are you sure? That doesn't add up." - Daniel Tosh on Kobe Bryant
Enjoyed your first fanpost BearKing
Well done & rec’d.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Thanks BearKing. Always appreciated.
To tell you the truth, I’m rather liberal in my rec’s. I don’t expect every person to be Shakespeare, Proust or Hemingway when writing fanposts. What I want, and which you clearly showed, is effort to make a point that hasn’t been made in comments or on the front page.
It’s not hard, but some people don’t even try. That’s what gets people upset. So, I try to rec the stuff that I think has redeeming value. I won’t read this a year from now and go “why the fuck did anybody write this shit?”
Also, I rec’d partly because I love “Can’t buy me love”. One of the better movie’s of the 80’s and I’ve never seen a movie illustrate better the meeting of the cynical adult world with the naivete of the teenage/children world. It was an amazing performance by Dempsey in particular, and the ending? Kills me every time. I’ve never seen a saddened guy to get the girl.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Thank you! That has been my arguement for "Can't buy me love" and its nice to hear someon shares my love for it. LOL
Who do you know that argues against it?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
The Nazi's should learn the African Ant-Eater dance.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
by jjham15 on Jun 28, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL JJ
A product of the 80’s wins again.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I like your picture of Gasol, but personally I would've gone with this one:

"We're trapped inside the matrix, forced to play our hand. We're filled with so much hatred, the kids don't stand a chance." -- B.o.B. (aka Bobby Ray).
by PhutureKings on Jun 28, 2010 3:42 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
looks like he needs a shave
DeMarcus Cousins with the rebound, outlet pass to Tyreke, alley-oop to Donte Greene! Put it in the books and send him to the line!!!
-The dream of a great young core for years to come!
Are you that's scarier than Pau Gasol?
That is normal garden variety of scary what you posted PK. What I posted? Supernatural scary.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 28, 2010 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good picture of Pau
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
poor, poor, Pau.
he sure is an awkward looking fellow, isn’t he? But, hey, his girlfriend is hella pretty, so he must be doing something right. : )
Good fanpost, btw, BearKing, and I totally agree, DeMarcus must keep the fire inside him. If you take away the fire you also take away the talent, IMO. You can’t have one without the other. If you took away the fire inside him, well, he’d be someone else. Someone who played the game with less passion, less drive, and no one wants that.
I’m not really big on player comparisons as I don’t know why we can’t just let players “be” who they are, but I do understand that they are necessary to some degree and are great for discussion and all, so with that said, I think the Barkley comparison is a pretty good one, especially when you throw in the Alabama tie like you did. I’m not agreeing with the Coleman one so much as I think DeMarcus cares too much rather than too little and if you see the temper or the attitude that’s why, because it, the game of basketball, really really matters to him.
Again, good post, very enjoyable to read. Thanks.
I think all the NBA players have hot freaking girl friends.
i saw cisco and kevin with their girls one time at a bar and they are smoking hot!
Thanks for the love, bigskycat!
It's one of the requirements of being a NBA player.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Easier said than done.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Women are attracted to money and success. Nothing new there.
NBA players can take their pick of women.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
Yeah I know SD.
My point is that you can’t stipulate things as under the table perks even when it’s something as simple as a GF. (Plus, who the hell gets that stipulated in a contract?) The NBA is rather picky about allowing perks to not go as a part of salary when it’s financially related so I’m sure perks are closely watched too.
Believe it or not, the NBA watches this stuff really really closely. It’s not as much of a conspiracy as people think it is.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
oh I was just joking...
I highly doubt that any nba player needs help picking up girls.
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
Sam casell might of. That dude looks like an alien.
But then again, the dude can talk. If u can talk, u can get the girls.
I was making a point about NBA perks.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yes.
But, hey, his girlfriend is hella pretty, so he must be doing something right. : )
It’s called pulling in 18 million a year. I’m sure there are plenty of dudes out there that would date a fugly chick if she made 18 million a year.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
/stands in this line
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
lol
Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?
by wallywagon11 on Jun 28, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
MY EYES AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
Loved the post, BearKing
Reke’d.
My only quibble is with the poll – I don’t think that there is such a thing as “a little Barkley.”
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
When you're from Birminghan I disagree.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Birmingham^
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
You mean his height.
Barkley, even with his Jenny Craig or whatever is still way heavier than Mr. Cousins.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
fixed, sorta.
But i think there are “little Barkleys” everywhere. Heck, DeMarcus is from Alabama isn’’t he? If you put two and two together…. wait… Does anyone know who Demarcus’ dad is?
His father is out of the picture
DMC grew up in Mobile & Birmingham (lived in Mobile until 4th grade and Birmingham from 4th to 10th grade). You decide where he grew up.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I don't think most in Alabama can put two and two together.
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
Unless it's two cousins hokking up with two other cousins...and I'm not talking DeMarcus's.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
Nice post, BearKing!
by the way, who are those two goofy-looking old guys on the far ends of your photo?
put me in, Coach
My dad and my brother.
We’re die hard fans man. Funny part about the whole thing was my dad( god bless him) had no idea who we were taking pictures with and only found out later that it was with the Maloofs. Who could be nicer by the way.
^Couldn't be nicer.
I love the maloofs. Ive met them a couple of times and they were Super nice each time!
Nice post BearKing. Rec'd
Very few fanposts hold my interest, but yours did. Your post was one of the few that I read in its entirety.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
I completely agree about "that" thing superstars have.
That arrogance, that “I’m the best mentality”, that fire.
I disagree on two parts. First, I still don’t know if Tyreke has it. He’s way too laid back and he still hasn’t faced serious challenges. But yes I believe in him. Second, Webber didn’t have it.
Yes, he certainly showed it with this game. This is "our house."
He pretty much shoved it in their faces. I loved it.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
Agreed but..
rec’d bc my avatar made your post.
And that's wassup.
by Sacramento_Strong on Jun 28, 2010 10:15 AM PDT reply actions
I know it isn't my actual one but you get what I mean
And that's wassup.
by Sacramento_Strong on Jun 28, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
BearKing is a nicer pseudonym than LTLFTP (long time lurker first time poster)
Nicely done, your 1st post is an entertaining read. Your fanhood and thoughts are displayed well. rec’d.
DMC is many things – most of all, he is human. That means he is unpredictable, illogical and forever changing. As a celebrity it just means we get to hear about and see more of it than we should. Is the kid an angel? I sure hope not, angels are boring. This kid is exciting. He will make things happen.
He will be discussed even if he does nothing due to the built up expectation that he is “trouble” (Did you see the way DeMarcus looked at the ref? I thought he was going to ______ fill in the blank). Is it fair? Heck no. Is getting millions of dollars to play hoop fair? Absolutely not. But with the rewards come the risks.
So, is he a “good” guy a “bad” guy, “immature” “a red flag”? He is all of those things. With swagger to boot. Let’s see where this trains heads before we talk about derailing it. As a Kings fan I say “Bring it on Boogie, we are along for the ride. All aboard!”.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 28, 2010 12:34 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
thanks bte, i'm glad you liked it.
i thought about that screen name, but it takes took long to type. lol. love your stuff too by the way.
Cousins like Barkley....oh great....
…now if only the Kings had a head coach who, I don’t know, has coached Barkley in the past, say when he was with the Suns and they almost won it all….
by getPGwithbounce on Jun 28, 2010 12:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Great post
Enjoyed reading your thoughts on DMC. I display the same positive attitude towards DMC and his abilities going forward. After reading your post and the comments, it dawned on me that this could be the beginning of a special point guard/center combo that the [Redacted] had so many years ago, and still have to some extent.
Seeing Reke, Donte, DMC, JT, Omri, and Hassan gain experience together in the upcoming season is going to be great to watch. Beno and Sammy D will provide some veteran leadership and Brockman will bring the fire.
thats what i kept yelling at the tv screen when "the experts" were taking about cousins during the draft!
its is a better way i think. my tv wont talk back to me. lol. BTW thanks gtrman for the love.
Awesome pic by the way
but I don’t know about love…how about really like for now and see where that leads us. Kidding.
By the way, when you want to reply to someone’s comment you should use the reply button. Thought I would mention it cause folks round these parts will remind you if you miss it even once.
Now, this is the way you make a first impression, lol
Good stuff BearKing. Great read.
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