Kevin Martin paying for boy's funeral
A boy from Martin's hometown died in a tragic bus crash. Martin is paying for the boy's funeral and pushing for a law requiring seat belts on school buses.
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Kevin Martin is one of the few good NBA guys.
I was very sad to see him go, but sometimes things must change and I have accepted that.
Hope
Soft
(Sorry).
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
My first reaction too.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It's really almost shocking how different Kevin Martin is than most other NBA players
He just really really gets it.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 5, 2010 1:45 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
To be honest I think alot of these guys do tend to give back to others in their home town communities
Even if they act like jerks in the lockeroom or whatever. Even those guys do tend to give back.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
Yeah, it's not just the "giving back" that impresses me
In this article, Kevin’s words show me that he’s not only helping out a family in his hometown that is dealing with a tragedy, but he actually seems really engaged with the whole situation and talks about supporting a schoolbus seatbelt law, and wanting to “hand over Kevin Martin Day” to the boy that died. I always appreciate when players give back to their communities (new and old), I just feel like it means more to Kevin to be able to do that than it does to a lot of players.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 5, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
To me
Kevin seems to want to give back, rather than a lot of the guys who feel like they are more obligated, or are just doing it because the “NBA Cares”
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by prowseinthehouse on Jun 5, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
When a young child dies in a tragic accident, it affects the whole community.
Kevin was touched by the incident and wanted to do something to help the family. He has the good fortune to help the family financially. That is is very nice touch, by Kevin to do so.
Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
-John Wooden
Bravo Kev
I’ll never root against ya cause of things like that.
by Dub_TC on Jun 5, 2010 1:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That's why I'm going to continue wearing that #23 proudly
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Wow
Martin said the City of Zanesville dedicated June 2 as Kevin Martin Day several years ago. “From now on, in my heart, that day will be Kasey King-Thomas Day,” Martin said. “I think it’s appropriate that I hand that day over to Kasey.”
Impressive as hell, right there.
whoever knocks on Kevin the person or player
is a total douchebag. You people know who you are. Kevin Martin is an A+ citizen. Good for you K-Mart for being great at what you do and being classy at the same time. Well done!
I'm with KMart.
I think all school buses should have seat belts. And that bus drivers and school districts could be fined for not enforcing their use.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 5, 2010 1:55 PM PDT reply actions
Why don't they, is the question?
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by otis29 on Jun 5, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
That was my thought, as well.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 5, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I was wondering that when I was in 1st grade riding the bus
I think it comes down to schools not having the money to install them
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by prowseinthehouse on Jun 5, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
That's exactly what it is.
They’d have to retrofit the buses, and it’s expensive. But I’d be happy if they just required bus manufacturers to equip seatbelts, and then let schools and districts phase in the safer buses as they update their fleets. Maybe offer grants to retrofit buses in districts that have fewer resources, i.e. on reservations or in small, rural districts.
Not that I’ve given it much thought or anything. Ok, maybe a little. Or a lot, depending on your standard.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 5, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like the idea of new buses requiring them being installed
but I wouldn’t hold my breath on the schools getting any grants from the government
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by prowseinthehouse on Jun 5, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I don't know.
More than half of the “stimulus” money hasn’t been spent yet. I can think of worse (or less politically feasible) things to spend it on. It might even make Obama’s poll numbers respectable again.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 5, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya, but you are making a big mistake
you are thinking logically, and that kind of attitude doesn’t cut it in the world of politics
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by prowseinthehouse on Jun 5, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is why
I’m working my way up to running the entire world from my home.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 5, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not becoming a member of the LDS.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Damn
I’ve got grammatically correct competition now. I’m going to need to step up my game.
Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order and Originator of the "Brock Ness Monster".
The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.
You’ve got a ways to go to catch up.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 6, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I imagine
the school bus production industry has a lobby, and seatbelt laws would make production more expensive.
Paging Ralph Nader...
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 5, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Little known fact
Brit Hume of Fox News used to actually work for Ralph Nader.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
Whose Brit Hume?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
long time Fox News anchor
Been with them since the beginning (I think he is only on there occasionally on the weekends but I don’t know). He is the guy who said Tiger Woods should convert to Catholicism.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
I was kidding.
I’m pretending Fox News doesn’t exist and isn’t all that is wrong & solace in the world.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It would
But what industry doesn’t pass those costs along to the consumer? Particularly a publicly funded consumer?
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 5, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I love how when we aren't exactly sure about something
it is basically human nature now to just point to the evil corporate board of old white guys in suits
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
Meh, I'm not sold.
I can see that it’s not exactly a black-and-white situation, but I’m pretty sure that the brightest minds in traffic safety could come up with a way to make school buses safer than they are now. Of course, there would be people against it with decent reasons for doing so, but what else is new. As for the liability issues, I’m sure it wouldn’t be much different than the liability issues they deal with now. Any time you have parents putting their children’s safety in someone else’s hands, there are going to be lawsuits.
All things considered, I still say it’s probably a battle worth fighting.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 5, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed with ASSN.
Also would add that children will die regardless of the amount of protection. It’s not right or fair, but that is the way it is.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
oh god no. what would make you think I am someone who actually had anything to offer.
The only other thing would be fighting considering kids could joke each other or hit each other in the head with the belt buckle (I only know this because I have siblings … not the choking part)
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
and don't get me wrong
The first thing that came to mind for me was the money angle too.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
Can't they hit each other in the head with something on their person just as easily?
Or their fists? Or ram some kids head into the bar that runs along the top of the seat in front of them? Sounds like it should be a disciplinary issue if kids were to use seatbelts as weapons, just as it would be with anything else.
And I’m not saying you’re wrong Wally, I’m sure you are probably correct and that’s a reason given for not adding seatbelts.
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by otis29 on Jun 5, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am not saying I disagree with you on this, but this is the first thing that runs through my head
If a school bus did have seat belts and they didn’t have the manpower to monitor the kids while they are riding the bus and the kids often engages in hitting each other with seat belt buckles, the school knew about it and still didn’t have enough resources to hire someone to monitor the kids in the back of the bus then what happens when a kid bashes someone in the head with one? I would think the victim’s parents would have a strong personal injury case against the school and would go after them because they have the deeper pockets than the family of the aggressor.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
Yeah I see that
But if they don’t have enough people to monitor their interactions with seatbelts vs. without seatbelts – how does it make a huge difference? It just seems…arbitrary to me.
What if one kid goes Ric Flair with their history textbook and brains the kid next to him on the bus? Same deal, right?
Anywhoo, LPA’s link made some great points that require some additional thinking on the subject.
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My thinking
Is that behavior would actually improve if seatbelts were mandated.
It would be fairly easy to spot kids who were roaming around or standing up. And most schools have a bus behavior policy, so they’d get themselves kicked off fairly soon, bringing consequences from home. (If you could behave yourself for a 15-minute bus ride, I could get to work on time!)
Maybe a monitoring system, like they have on theme park rides, that let operators know what seats are occupied but the belt isn’t in use could be equipped on buses with seat belts.
I’d just feel better if the kids that ride buses on icy mountain roads in Utah had seat belts available to them, since no Utah school district has called a snow day in the nine years we’ve lived here.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 5, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Now they can hit each other with personal stuff
I just think if they used a weaspon that was in fact provided by the school and not only provided to the students but provided to them on the school bus where the incident occured, that would add more liability issues.
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
Yet more proof kids should walk to school.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Not possible for some kids.
There are lots of rural areas where the nearest elementary school is 5-10 miles away, and the secondary schools are even farther.
Personally, I’d rather see high school kids take the bus than drive. Safer for everybody and cuts down on truancy and late-back-from-lunch tardies.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 5, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Not saying every kid has to take the bus.
I’m saying more should walk to school.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That's true.
But here, where it’s only possible about half of the days of any given school year due to weather, it’s not likely to happen.
Plus, my boys attend a charter school, which is not within walking distance. The school does offer busing, but at a cost of $300/student/year.
However, they earn their computer time by doing exercise and playing outside, so I do what I can. Mostly I make them play with our very active border collie.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 5, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
3 miles is within walking distance.
Walking doesn’t hurt kids.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Do you know how long it would take a little kid to walk three miles?
And unless you have a nanny, I’m guessing a parent has to spend that time to walk their child to school. Not exactly an easy feat in the two-income era.
Pacifist ass-kisser
More about POV.
Just my opinion is all. Nothing more or less. I also don’t have kids either so it’s merely speculation on my part.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Kids can get run over by motorists, walking to school.
Just saying.
Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
-John Wooden
Sure.
I walked two miles home from high school every day. (I got a ride to school every morning because I attended seminary at 6:30am across town.)
But my boys would have to walk 4 each way and cross a busy highway. On days when it wasn’t raining or snowing. And it would take them better than an hour to do it. I’d much rather have them arrive safe, warm and not exhausted for their day of learning.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 5, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I get that.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That's because I'm logical.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 5, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably more important that you're smart.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
And I'm funny.
I’ve got the whole triple threat thing going.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 6, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. Triple Threat. LPA. Yeah.
Or we could build ping-pong ball shrines and make sacrifices at them, like broken ping-pong paddles, or burning Peaches in effigy.
All I ever needed to like you LPA was this here quote. :P
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
(must resist the urge to google “Martin Lawrence” pictures from when he had a tv show. must resist the urge to google “Martin Lawrence” pictures from when he had a tv show. must resist the urge to google “Martin Lawrence” pictures from when he had a tv show.)
Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?
I hate Kevin Martin so much.
How dare he care about other people and a set of grieving parents? What a dickhead of a human being.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
still miss this guy
but i do hope the seat belt law does not pass
Still waiting for the Euler of basketball to play for the Kings
Ruh-roh
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 5, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Because I'm willing to hear another POV?
Just curious, is all.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 5, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, please.
It was a simple question. I just want to know whether he thinks that seatbelts wouldn’t do any good, or if it’s a keep-the-government-out-of-my-life kind of thing or something entirely different.
I can be open-minded.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 5, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
No, that’s not it. It was actually a compliment to your level of intelligence (and a wild assumption on morecasspi’s on this particular subject).
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by otis29 on Jun 5, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ah.
But he like’s Casspi, so we know he’s reasonably basketball-smart.
(And thank you.)
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 5, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly!
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 5, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
...Like yelling at a guy for letting his dog poop on your lawn, and then realizing that it's Mike Tyson.
Or something.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 5, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you mocking my absurd hypotheticals?
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 5, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
You stand while you type?
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 7, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
for a few reasons
buses are heavy and when they get in an accident they are meant to absorb the impact, the seats are in front take on the rest. Plus tests are really inconclusive about the safety they provide to kids. The funds could be put to a long list of other safety measures. Lastly if a bus is in an accident it only hinders the kids from getting out of the bus.
Still waiting for the Euler of basketball to play for the Kings
That's true.
The benefits of seatbelts on school buses have not been proven, but I think that’s largely due to the fact that so few have them. I did find it interesting, though, that they might prove ineffective on buses because they tend to make passengers slide down, where buses are designed to minimize the impact when passengers are being propelled forward. They might prove more effective in side-impact accidents, and definitely roll-overs. Submersions, not so much, but I’ve got to think those are fairly rare.
I think the argument that they hinder kids from getting off the bus after an accident is not a particularly strong one. Most kids can get out of a seatbelt, or a car seat for that matter, at a very young age. My three-year-old niece buckles herself in and out of hers. It’s something that is automatic. And they could always have drills a couple of times a year to practice.
As far as other safety features on buses, what would you like to see? I think the biggest problem by far is that many buses are not properly maintained, and that bus drivers are not always well-trained. But that’s just my opinion ..
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 6, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
well to fot all the buses in america it would cost $800,000
do you know how many kids die a year around 10 depending on the year. you know how many teens die from drinking and driving related deaths around 6,000 and that is a low guess. you really think it is worth the extra money when it is way safer than any car. people get so emotional about these issues but worrying about a kid dying on a bus is a rarity and not worth the work it would take. and do you really think kids would wear them? and use them the right way and not just hit each other. plus it makes it so only 2 kids can sit on a seat instead of 3. Buses are not a problem with the saftey of your kids.
Still waiting for the Euler of basketball to play for the Kings
$800,000 to save one child's life is money well spent.
The amount if it were my child or the child of a friend cannot be quantified.
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by section214 on Jun 6, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
and that thinking is why california is in dept so deep
and it would not necessarily save any lives
Still waiting for the Euler of basketball to play for the Kings
Pardon me, Senatot
You don’t have the slightest idea as to why California is in debt, so stay in the shallow end.
$800,000 divided by the millions of taxpayers in this country is a pimple. Now, if you want to say that the move won’t say lives, fair enough. But then don’t throw the money issue at it.
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by section214 on Jun 6, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bottom line -
There has got to be a way to make school buses safer for children, and the cost should not be an issue.
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by section214 on Jun 6, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
here is what we should do
highways no longer able to go over 10 mph cuz this will save lives.
Still waiting for the Euler of basketball to play for the Kings
You're a riot
I’m so glad that this is a funny issue for you.
You’re not a troll, but you have hit douchebag status with your comments here today. I am amazed that you can be so cavalier about this. Borders on heartless.
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by section214 on Jun 6, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
o now i get it
you played my bluff, you can now start writing your checks to the US government and place a note saying the money should be used on a device that is not necessary.
Still waiting for the Euler of basketball to play for the Kings
No, you don't get it
I’ve been to a child’s funeral – one that died in a bus accident. The child was of a very close friend of mine. It tore their life and their marriage apart. And as someone that had the “opportunity” to watch my dad pass right before my very eyes, I can tell you that the sight of a small casket is the worst thing that I have ever seen in my life.
Get it, asshole? This is very personal to me. I’m not playing some fucking game here, and this isn’t funny or entertaining to me.
My opinion of you is that you are a heartless, souless prick. Maybe I’m wrong – I only know you by what you write. Based on that, I certainly don’t want to get to know you any better.
Congratulations. I hardly ever get personal to this level around here, I rarely swear, and I generally try to keep it light. So congrats for bringing out the worst in me. Congrats for brininging me down to your level. Congrats for brininging lack of compassion to a new low.
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by section214 on Jun 6, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
And here I thought you were just a funny cyborg.....
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
look the money issue was a bad way to raise the argument
I get that and sorry, but if you read my original post i said
[seatbelt] tests are really inconclusive about the safety they provide to kidsand that is why it would be a waste to put them on buses. you can research this for yourself I am not making it up. Buses are well engineered machines that preform extremely well at there job. Now if you want to jump to push a measure that does any of the following and will help save numerous kids lives I am all in:
-after school programs that prevent gang and drug use
-drunk driving awareness for teens
-the dangers of being on a phone while driving
-drug awareness
-depression scans for kids
hell call me up I am will head to the capital with you
Still waiting for the Euler of basketball to play for the Kings
"Sorry, but" is really weak
I didn’t see any apology for offending Section and for coming off as so crass about something that is so personal.
Any attempt to display any genuine reflection or one ounce of empathy for somebody so greviously re-wounded by your posts.
All you did, instead, was re-affirm that the castigating post was correct in assessing you as heartless.
Section – I am really sorry for your loss. That is just horrendous…
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
My question
Is how many of your proposed programs have been pfoven to work?
Not saying that educating kids or offering programs are bad ideas, but I’ll tell you, there are so many drug awareness programs and safe driving programs already out there, and plenty of programs to keep kids from joining gangs, and those problems just seem to be getting worse.
And depression scans? Like you can run a kid through a machine and see if he’s depressed, like an emotion x-ray or something?
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 8, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I can relate, Section.
Having been to the funeral of my own 10-year-old son, killed by man speeding through a red light, and having come across my dad, lying in a pool of blood, after committing suicide by shooting himself, I can kind of understand some of your feelings.
These tragedies become very personal and life-altering. Most people haven’t experienced this kind of tragedy in their lives and so to a certain extent are unaware and insulated of the kind of impact this can have on people. These things become all-to-real when it happens to you.
You just shared the realness of you. We all appreciate your fantastic sense of humor. Now, you have allowed us to get a glimpse of your heart.
Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
-John Wooden
by Slam_Dunk on Jun 7, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
My condolences, especially for your son
My dad was 60 when he went – too early, but still a life well spent. But I still have difficulty wrapping my head around the loss of a child – a promise unfulfilled. The only sense is that there is no sense when it comes to a tragedy of this nature. We pick ourselves up and we move on, but we never forget and we are forever changed. I suppose the blessing is that our lives were touched at all by this young light, and it reminds us that every day is a gift.
Wow, all that from a 51 year old man that still thinks that pee-pee jokes are funny. Go figure.
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Nicely expressed.
Your dad was too young, but was very fortunate to have you for a son. We do hold these people in our hearts and our lives are “forever changed.” I think of my son everyday, and I have no doubt you think of your dad often.
Your sense of humor is a gift. It brings joy to others.
Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
-John Wooden
Wow, so sorry for your losses Slam
And you as well Section. What a horrific thing to have to deal with.
I’m lucky not to have had to deal with the death of a child, but I lose sleep some nights thinking about keeping my little girl safe in an increasingly dangerous world.
I’ll admit, before I had a child, I’d probably have understood morecasspi’s point of view (well, if it was expressed a little better). I think for most who have had a child, there’s a feeling that we as adults are put here to protect these innocents from harm, and when you see a child die, you want to fix it, regardless of cost.
And there’s not a damn thing wrong with feeling that way either. If 800k could save one child’s life, I’d hope that money was spent to do so.
Pacifist ass-kisser
As a parent, you do want to keep your child safe.
So many things can happen, but you just can’t protect them from everything. If you tried, you would keep them from growing. Fortunately, these tragedies are rare. When it does happen, it touches a whole community. I can certainly see why Kevin Martin felt touched and wanted to do something to help.
Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
-John Wooden
Truly, I'm sorry for your loss.
I have a ten year old son. He is a joy to me every day. I can’t even imagine your pain.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 8, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
btw
around 30 people die a year on elevators/escalators per year so I think we just need to pump more money into buildings so it is 100% safe. Wait that is unachievable, o ya I did learn that in a basic stats class and just from history.
Still waiting for the Euler of basketball to play for the Kings
Face, meet palm.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 7, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Bingo.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 7, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
"That thinking" is not at all why California is in debt so deep.
I won’t try to defend everything that the government spends our money on, but the real reasons why California’s budget is screwed up are so much bigger than anything that you would likely describe as “wasteful government programs and regulations”. This isn’t really the place for an in-depth back and forth on California politics, but some very brief and basic research should show you that dropping a little dough to potentially save some kids from injury or death wouldn’t exactly hold us back from the Promised Land of fiscal solvency.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Jun 7, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Like a real estate scam perpetuated by many very wealthy people. For starters.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
This is a no win situation
Seatbelts have been shown repeatedly to injure children. It is not just that they are ineffective. It is that the child sliding how or even the seatbelt not correctly on the hips causes both internal organ and spinal damage. This is why there are no seatbelts in buses. I don’t agree with it, but that is really the reasoning.
The thing is that there needs to be a complete re-design of the seats and how the belts are used in order to protect kids. It should not be that difficult. Something as simple as a padded abdominal harness would probably work.
No matter what the solution may be it would be well worth it.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Kevins definitely an excellent role model
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
Condolences to the boy's family
and big props to Kevin for what he’s done already.
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by Aykis16 on Jun 6, 2010 11:20 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Kevin Martin continues to be a great ambassador for the NBA
condolences to the unfortunate family of this tragic accident. The best way to deal with this (any) problem is to help find solutions. Way to go KM for using your notoriety for just such a purpose.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 7, 2010 1:19 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm proud that Kevin was a King
and stories like this is why he will always be my favorite player.
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