DeMarcus Cousins Ain't No Joke
I checked out Summer League practice on Friday. Jason Jones has been to them all, so check out his reactions.
At Friday's practice, one thing stood out to me.
DeMarcus Cousins is not playing around.
He owned the paint during the five-on-five drills and scrimmages. A lot of great rebounders do their work with positioning and hands. Guys like Kevin Love, Jon Brockman and even Carlos Boozer move laterally and fight for rebounds which essentially become loose balls once they fall below the rim. Cousins can do that, and came up with plenty of rebounds in what were effectively scrums, especially during a five-on-five drill in which a coach fired up an errant shot and the 10 players fought for possession.
But he can also sky for rebounds few other NBA big men can get.
The dude's size is remarkable -- he takes up so much space in the paint. And when he gets off his feet quickly, he can get some Dwight Howard rebounds. No, he isn't dunking on a 12-foot rim. And he's not getting to the ball first every time it's ripe for the picking up high. But a few of the skying rebounds where breathtaking in that the Kings haven't had someone to get those rebounds in a decade.
Boogie has work to do on all facets of his game. I'm not convinced he'll be very efficient as a rookie -- NBA defenders will throw at him things he's never seen. The book of Big Man Dark Arts is long, and Cousins has a lot of learning to do. His play off the dribble is alternately spectacular and iffy. He can pass (even off the dribble), perhaps as well as Spencer Hawes. He can also run into trouble, or miss open teammates. On defense, he's more solid overall than Hassan Whiteside, who had to be told repeatedly by Donte Greene where to be. But he's also susceptible to getting beat by guards, and he's not the quickest sprinter getting back in transition.
But in the paint, this kid is an absolutely beast. I've convinced he'll lead rookies in rebounding (with Blake Griffin the primary rival), and he should be able to average a point for every two minutes without being featured a huge amount, thanks to his offensive rebounding and sheer size and agility. In a few years? The sky ain't even a limit.
Of course, this was Boogie's first NBA practice. But based on his record of excellence and what I saw out there, we have the real deal.
Other notes from the practice:
* Sylven Landesburg didn't shoot well in the first practice. Dionte Christmas looked a bit better. Either way, neither wanted to wait for the team van to take them over to Natomas' ubiquitous fast food stations, so there were two potential NBA players walking down Gateway Park Boulevard in 90-degree weather, looking for a meal. The NBA life, it's so glamorous.
* Donald Sloan looked to set up his teammates repeatedly; he rarely shot during the scrimmages in this practice, despite being a high-scoring two-guard in college. Of course, when playing with Cousins, Whiteside, Greene and Omri Casspi, he ought to be passing the ball.
* Whiteside had a few spectacular blocks, and from what Jones reports it looks like he did the same Saturday. (He also had a mammoth putback dunk during a scrimmage Friday. Mammoth.) But his development will come when he learns how to set screens, use discretion on offense, box out, defend the pick-and-roll, and watch his man off the ball on defense. He has tools and talent. But there's a lot of work to be done.
* Whiteside is also hilarious. After the sparse media contingent thanked him for his time in post-practice interviews, Whiteside replied, "Thank you, media."
* As Jones notes, Greene does look taller. He was also quite vocal, calling out assignments, telling Whiteside where to go, and encouraging his young teammates. He also made some bad passes, and at least one bad decision on a dribble-drive. But we've all seen the talent, and Donte is really motivated to win the starting spot. He'll have to get it done on defense, and I have high hopes for that.
* Casspi looks a little stronger; he's been working out with Joe Abunassar in Vegas since June 1. He said he's been lifting four days a week, and scrimmaging with guys like Rudy Gay. He worked well with Greene, and received some nice passes from Cousins. As he's a better rebounder and potentially a better defender than Greene, he'll be an interesting contender for that starting spot.
* Mario Elie exudes confidence. He's also a nice guy, and he doesn't mince words talking about his players. He's very high on Cousins, understand Whiteside's limitations, and really set the stage for a Greene-Casspi showdown through the preseason. He likes Sloan and Landesberg a lot, too.
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Great observations TZ
Looking at Cousins rebounding stats from college, its obvious he’s going to be an elite rebounder in this league. Rebounding is usually one of the most transferable talents from college to the NBA.
As for Whiteside, he does have a ridiculous penchant for blocking shots, but sometimes that becomes a detriment as he slacks off and gives his defender position because he thinks he can recover in time to block said shot. Also, his offense needs a lot of work (he relies way too much on his go-to move, a back to the basket, fake to the basket, then step-back fade away jumper).
And I’m really happy with our options at the 3 between Donté and Omri.
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Gonna catch the first game of summer league tomorrow.
I have high hopes for cousins, but I also know he might struggle in a guard oriented offense.
Hope
Yeah
I just bought the $15 package to watch the 5 kings games. I might watch John Wall play today just to see the Kings got the steal of the draft in Boogie.
by g4y Vulture on Jul 11, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Its all free with my DTV plus programming
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jul 11, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Word up.
Comes with the much-coveted Fox Soccer Channel, too!
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by PhutureKings on Jul 11, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I get BTN (Big ten) as well as some others
so I was able to watch my Boilers last season once I noticed I actually got it – cool
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jul 12, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Whoa.
I’m not sure if I get that one. I only have the sports package upgrade, but I don;t think I have the DTV Plus package. Not sure.
What channel is BTN?
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by PhutureKings on Jul 12, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Wall is gonna play
I hear he had a groin injury and he wanted to take it easy
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Go Kings!
by Panzerfaust on Jul 11, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Cousins ain't no joke?
I hear some Eric B. & Rakim coming on right about now….

Vlade Divac, the 24 year old [Redacted] center who reported to training camp at 250, 15 pounds more than last season's weight: "We all get heavier as we get older because there's a lot more information in our heads. Our heads weigh more."
Let’s facelift bar!--netetrader20
by kingsfan300 on Jul 11, 2010 10:14 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
"Hyper as a heart attack, nobody's smiling"
“Competing ’cuz (!!!) I just put your mind on pause
And I beat you when you compare my rhyme with yours…”
That photo of Cuz rocking the deerstalker cap makes me think of early nineties hip-hop every time I, er, “peep it”. He looks like he’s waiting for Gang Starr to take the stage. I love it.
by Signora Omicidi on Jul 11, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Great Read
Was looking forward to the extended Cousins take and it did not disappoint. I just hope that my Summer League LPBB doesn’t cause me to throw anything at the tv when it inevitably lags out during a promising possession.(I actually have red flags, unlike DMC)
Thanks for your observations.
Last night on Fox 40 News, they made a big deal about Kings getting back to the glory days. They showed an interview with Elie, where he compared Cousins to Webber.
It is very exciting to hear how well Cousins is doing in practice and also to hear updates on the Greene and Casspi rivalry for the starting position. My money is on Greene. I am waiting to hear when the Kings draft Landesberg, so it is reassuring to hear Elie talk about him.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
I'll take Casppi
and raise you 5
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
Count me in that bet as well
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jul 11, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
How much money are we talking here?

If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
by Slam_Dunk on Jul 11, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can draw up some numbers and bank the line if we're interested...
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jul 11, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
"Thank you, media."
Okay, that was pretty darn funny.
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I have Directv
And the game is on NBA TV channel 216 tomorrow
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jul 11, 2010 10:33 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Thanks for this.
So glad to see King Boogie mentioned with these names:
Guys like Kevin Love, Jon Brockman and even Carlos Boozer move laterally and fight for rebounds which essentially become loose balls once they fall below the rim. Cousins can do that…
Awesome. Stoked for the VSL.
RIP, Coach Wooden.
Thank you, Geoff Petrie.
I have a hard time believing that....
Did I read that Omri may be a potentially better defender than Donte? I felt that Donte (either him or Tyreke) was the best defensive player on the team on most nights last year while Omri’s defensive skills were pretty lackluster. How can that change so drastically in one off-season? It would be great if it turns out to be true…. we already know that Omri can score but if he can play defense too then that would be awesome!
If you read Ziller's defense post based on Synergy Sports statistics
Found here, Omri was the best isolation defender on the team, allowing only .63 PPP (points per possession) in 134 isolation plays over the season. Omri also forced turnovers on 14% of those plays, and limited opponents to 31.4% shooting.
Donté meanwhile allowed .97 PPP in isolation.
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The problem with taking these stats in isolation (pun intended)
is that they don’t take into account who these guys were guarding. The Donte-as-stopper idea first popped into my mind in December and January, when we were putting Donte on guys like Kobe, LeBron, and Carmelo, and the Kings were doing surprisingly well during that stretch. My guess, though, is that these guys scored more per possession based on who they are.
In any case, I’m really looking forward to both these guys playing well for us at the SF. And, hopefully, at the SG some, too.
With LP here
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Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Good point about Donte-as-stopper, being on guys like Kobe.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
Thanks for the link to that article...
That was surprising info but I think it’s a little misleading. Why is it that Omri had more iso defense opportunities (other than Tyreke and Beno and in less minutes) than anybody else on the team? While it seems like teams were intentionally going right at Omri, Donte was be assigned to guard players like Kobe and Carmelo.
Omri as of last year is a better player in almost every aspect of the game.
He isn’t the shot-blocker Donte can be, but he is much tougher and goes hard after rebounds.
Hope
by Ultrakingsfan on Jul 11, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think so...
We’ll definitely have to agree to disagree on that. Donte is a better defender (despite what that article says), he is a better finisher at the basket, he’s more athletic, and he handles the ball better. Omri is a better shooter, he is a better rebounder, and I agree that he plays a little tougher than Donte. I wish we could combine their skills and make them into one super small forward. I like them both a lot and I hope they’re with the Kings for many years.
You are both right
They are both better than each other.
It is just who they are matching up against. Putting Donte’ on the more physical and stronger SFs is best and Omri on the smaller, quicker SFs is best.
Donte’s worse stats may be because he played some time at SG. He is fast, but not that fast, IMO.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Omri shot the 3 better and rebounded better. He didnt just jack up 3s. He drove, he was aggressive and drew fouls.
by caseycheesecake on Jul 11, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
People seem to forget
that Omri defended these big stars too, and sometimes in crunch time. And since he played more minutes than Greene, 300 more, he would have had more defensive opportunities.
Dunking Dutchman
Not forgetting that.
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Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Thanks Pookey
it is good to know that I have one ally against these dark forces who are trying to manipulate Kings history.
Dunking Dutchman
Well I don't agree with you.
So, there is that. But Omri did defend some of these players. The difference is Donte pretty much defended all those players when he was defending. That is people’s point here Rik. Or, at least that’s how I see it.
I don’t have an issue with Omri and Donte fighting for that SF spot. That’s extremely critical moving forward.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Pookey, we just lost the World Cup Final
This is not a good time to be disagreeing with me, okay.
With the PPP Greene posted, he would have been better off rolling out red carpets for the guys he was defending. Maybe they would have stumbled over a crease, or something.
Dunking Dutchman
Had it been Omri's job to defend Kobe, LeBron and those guys......
…I’d agree. But it wasn’t.
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Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yeah, so in the 300 more minutes he played
Omri was only up against “scrubs” like Artest, Maggette, Marion and Ariza and Greene was only busy defending the opponent’s team best player? Even if that really would be the case, it clearly didn’t go that well for Greene that he earned more minutes.
Do people here really think that because of fear for Donte Greene, the Lakers and Mavs said: “Hey, let’s not force our hands with Kobe/Dirk against Greene, but swing the ball to Artest/Marion instead, so we’ll abuse Omri?” And even if that really would be the case, Omri clearly did a good job against such scrubs, judging by that Ziller article.
Dunking Dutchman
Didn't say he was defending scrubs.
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Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
hey Rik
F@*k Spain!
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jul 11, 2010 4:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
i think part of that may be that omri tries rediculously hard
like a SF Bobby Jackson, its impossible for him to not give it 100%. Thats why I love Omri, and that is also why I think Greene will start. We dont want Omri to get big minutes and wear down like he did last season.
sweet
can’t wait for the first summer league game tomorrow…
It's when you put a cape on and then slap a sticker of your face onto the backboard when you grab the rebound.
by HITMEN17 on Jul 11, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
OH Ok
I thought it was when Dwight Howards gets a rebounds.
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by Bambooozled on Jul 11, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I Don't Know
I thought only Dwight Howard could get Dwight Howard rebounds. Well at least Cuz doesn’t get Spencer Hawes rebounds.
ailene voisin is wack!
by Bambooozled on Jul 11, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions

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by section214 on Jul 11, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Cousins doesnt get Dwight Howard rebounds
Howard gets DeMarcus Cousins rebounds
And in the end, Chuck Norris gets both those rebounds.
Let us usher in the era of Reke DMC!
by Shizzo on Jul 11, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Well done
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jul 11, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Not too concerned with who starts at SF, it's about the allocation of minutes...
by getPGwithbounce on Jul 11, 2010 12:33 PM PDT reply actions
Sounds like they will play together as well.
ailene voisin is wack!
by Bambooozled on Jul 11, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
dmc only looks about 260 lbs in that picture
280 at the most
TZ, I'd love to get your take on whether Casspi can play SG or not.
Have those aspects of his game improved to the point where we can plug him into SG comfortably. Can he create his own shot better? Handle better? Move his feet better? Stick with faster players now? Etc. Thanks again for all the info!
Do you guys think Omri can be our SG?
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5 splitting 144
There are 144 minutes per night at the 1, 2 & 3. Isee Evans getting 36 of those minutes per night, with the other 108 being divvied up amongst Udrih, Garcia, Casspi and Greene. That’s 27 minutes per player, and that’s not factoring in injuries, which is an 8-10% bump. I think that the minutes will be carved out based on matchups, and Westphal’s playing of the “hot hand.” It will be interesting to see who is on the floor to close out the close games.
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I think you are forgetting the new rookie guard, Donald Sloan and potential guards, Christmas, Thompson, and Landesberg.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
No, I am not
Only Sloan has more than a VSL contract at this point.
To the 5 guys that I mentioned, add Dalembert, Landry, JT and Cousins. You’re now running a 9-deep rotation. Brockman, Sloan and Whiteside would occupy the last three seats on the bench at this point, picking up spot and/or garbage minutes here and there.
Now, there may still be a signing or two before it’s all said and done, but I do not see a signing impacting the 9-man rotation, unless one of those 9 guys are dealt in the process.
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Okay. You didn't mention that Sloan and whomever would be picking up some spot/garbage minutes at the 1, 2,or 3.
That is all I am saying. I see your point, now, of a 9-deep rotation.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
Depending upon Sloan's skill set, there is another possibility.
Last season ended with Westphal using both Beno and Tyreke starting. Then he frequently chose Greene to start. You could have, Garcia backing up Tyreke, Sloan backing up Beno, and Casspi backing up Greene, for a 10-man rotation.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
Possible
I think that the more likely scenario is Evans/Udrih/Garcia in a 3-man rotation, Evans/Garcia, Evans/Udrih and Udrih/Garcia all work (and remember, you’d only be running without Evans for 12 minutes a game). Greene spots into the 2 for specific matchups (when you have to throw extra bodies at Kobe, for example).
My hope is that the Kings do not have to rely on serious minutes from a guy that did not go in the top 60 in the 2010 NBA draft. Make no mistake, I’m pulling for the kid. But I’m hoping that we are improved enough that his services are (for the most part) not required.
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We will have to see how this all pans out.
Kings didn’t waste too much time to sign Sloan, while they are going to take their time with Christmas, Thompson, and Landesberg. I think there is a good possibility that they will sign one of these guys.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
I think that they're still long shots
Actually, based on what Section is saying that even if one makes the squad they won’t see many minutes.
If Tyreke plays 18mpg at the SG & PG, that leaves 30mpg for Beno & Cisco. Any undrafted rookie is more likely to see playing time in games where we’re running away or completely out of it. 3 guards, 2 SF’s , and 4 bigs (Sam, Cuz, Carl, JT), that’s a 9 man rotation, and it’s doubtful any one that we sign from VSL will take minutes away. There is the possibility of a trade further down the road, but for now we have our starters.
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You're are probably right; however, isn't it easier to have a backup for each starting position?
In other words, if Tyreke, Beno, and Greene start, doesn’t it make it easier to have players to back up each position? Tyreke, Beno, and Greene play the first quarter, and then Garcia, Casspi, and Sloan play the second quarter?
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
Not necessarily, because a three guard rotation is probably plenty.
If you make tactical substitutions, Garcia backs up both and the starters get plenty of rest between periods.
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by PhutureKings on Jul 11, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Not unless the 2 backups are equal in talent,
which wouldn’t be the case with adding undrafted players. Plus it’s not unusual for a player to play a full quarter. You’d have to pull one of the starters earlier in the quarter and bring in the backup. Then continue to rotate as one gets tired. The extra minutes rest between quarters and the half time break, should help them rest.
I think back-to-backs or road trips with 4 games in 6 nights would require additional players to take up some of the minutes, and rest the players more. But for the majority of the season, 3 man rotation would be fine.
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Met Cousins and Whiteside and Casspi at Kings at L in downtown yesterday!!!
anybody else there?
by Smooth Criminal on Jul 11, 2010 3:55 PM PDT reply actions
Were you on the Kings' video?
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
Wow!! whoo
i found myself on the video taking a picture of Hassan Whiteside at the doorway. This is kinda cool =D
by Smooth Criminal on Jul 11, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like I am going to get all the SL games
What time is the game?
by southern oregon on Jul 11, 2010 9:46 PM PDT reply actions
6pm Eastern Time
Sacramento vs Detroit at 6pm ET for monday’s game:
http://www.nba.com/summerleague/gameline/20100712/
put me in, Coach
Or Vegas. :)
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Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
You know, I don't think we're dutiful enough in rec'ing Ziller, who's always excellent.
Accordingly, rec’d.
It makes no difference other than seeing it rec'd.
As far as I can tell. That’s the only problem as I see it.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

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by chenp22 on Jul 12, 2010 4:42 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Game is on NBATV
at 3 p.m.
I’m looking forward to seeing the matchup between Cousins and Monroe. Monroe already has a game under his belt against Golden State, so that might help him a bit.
Jon Scheyer, the undrafted Duke SG, looked good for the Heat yesterday, basically taking over the game in the last minute with a three that gave them the lead and then sealing the deal with crunch time free throws. He’d be a nice pickup, but I am sure the Heat are thinking the same thing, and they need the bodies.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
Not sure why we didn't give him a look
But it seems GP agrees with me that the most important contribution of that last (probably little used guard) will be for a change of pace.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jul 12, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions

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