DeMarcus Cousins Starts Rough, and the Kings Fall
DeMarcus Cousins had all sorts of trouble on offense early in this game against the Raptors, going 0-10 with four turnovers in the first half. But things turned around on that end -- he shot 5-8 in the second half and finished with 16 points and a game-high 12 rebounds, his fourth double-double in four Vegas Summer League games.
This is how big men and point guards are graded on a different scale than wings. It's the secondary stat. If Kevin Martin, for example, shoots 5-18 in a game, that's a bad game. Cousins can salvage it with 12 rebounds; Chris Paul could salvage it with 12 assists. This isn't necessarily fair -- assists should be judged in the context of efficient offense, and rebounds split between the context of efficient offense and defense. Cousins, with eight defensive rebounds, captured an estimated 31 percent of all his defensive rebound opportunities, a Dalembert-good level. His main match-up, Joey Dorsey, scored just 5 points on 1-6 shooting. But Cousins also had six turnovers, the terrible shooting clips, and just two assists.
For Cousins, you can't judge a game just looking at 16-12, or 5-18, or 2-6. It all matters. And this was a mediocre performance.
And it, in the end, probably helped the team.
Rebounding is such a big deal, and it's something the Kings have struggled to do for so long. Things finally improved toward the end of the season last year, and with Samuel Dalembert and Cousins (and the distinct lack of weak-rebounding Spencer Hawes), things will be much, much better this year. Only then will I really understand how to grade Cousins on a game-to-game level, when I see a baseline performance from him regularly. Based on his baseline Summer League performance to date, Friday's game was a bad one. We'll see if that type of thinking holds up.
Other notes:
* I do not envy Donald Sloan. It's remarkable how ineffective he has been. If Cousins' star quotient (translated through FGA levels) has damaged anyone, it's been Sloan, who just can't get anything going on the floor. The Kings are going to have trouble going into training camp with Sloan as the perfunctory back-up point guard. Of course, that position's in an odd spot anyway, given there are two point guards on the roster, but one will be the starter at two-guard, in all likelihood.
* In terms of the other guards on the team, I think Ryan Thompson stands the best chance of getting a regular season nod, followed by Sylven Landesberg, Tyrese Rice and Devan Downey. If Sloan hadn't already signed a contract, I'd put him behind Downey, regrettably. Nothing against the kid -- I really hope he breaks out in the weekend games -- but he just hasn't done a thing since the first game.
* I do not understand the anti-Omri Casspi sentiment this week -- 12 points on .551 True Shooting in less than 25 minutes a game, with 4.3 rebounds a game. Donte Greene has shot better thanks to his threes (.578 True Shooting), but Greene hasn't done the one thing he needed to do better this week: rebound. He has 11 all week. (Cousins, meanwhile, is averaging more than 11 a game.) The truth is that both Omri and Donte have things they still need to work on, but both has had a fine Summer League ... especially compared to last year.
* That said, we are no closer to having a favorite in Team Donte vs. Team Omri than we were a week ago. It looks like it may come down to training camp and preseason.
* Hassan Whiteside has had a pretty good week. The stats aren't amazing (except for the 2.8 blocks a game), and he certainly hasn't been dominant at any point since the block party early in the week. But he works pretty nicely next to Cousins. Barring injury, he's not going to be able to supplant Dalembert, Cousins, Carl Landry or Jason Thompson in the rotation much. But he's not nearly as raw as I once assumed.
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This is what young guys are going to do
I like that he was able to come out in the second half and be successful (Cousins)… I like Whiteside A LOT!… He’ll jump over the backboard to get a block… Casspi and Greene both seem to be working really hard so it’ll be interesting to see them compete in camp
by Screamer on Jul 17, 2010 7:03 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Good write up
Indeed things are looking up. Whiteside does look good but also looks lost alot, plus he can shot when not rushed. He needs to learn to speed it up.
We have all been concerned
about DeMarcus’ ability to deal with adversity within the NBA game due primarily to his young age and inexperience. Undoubtedly, there will be a big target on his back, placed there by those who will want to “welcome” the rookie into the league. It started with the “hazing” instituted by Laimbeer a couple of days ago. He passed that test quite well, I thought, first time out. Now with this game against the Raptors, he had a miserable 1st half. The question was how would he come back and finish. He came back strong, and even though fouling out, resisted becoming petulant and displayed great sportmanship at the end. Still early, but good signs nonetheless.
Good thoughts
I was similarly happy to see him overcome that first half and put together a strong second half.
Not a good game, but there are still reasons to be encouraged.
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I’ve been searching in sort of a half-assed way for VSL box scores, but don’t seem to be able to find them. My normally infallible Google skills have failed me. Any leads?
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Here are the box scores for Toronto - Sac
http://www.nba.com/summerleague/games/20100716/TORSAC/gameinfo.html
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on NBA's summer league page...
…you can go to the scores & schedules page, and there’s a link on the right hand side of each game listed. Here’s one (click on the box score tab):
http://www.nba.com/summerleague/games/20100716/TORSAC/gameinfo.html
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just go to NBA.com and click on “Scores and Schedules”.
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by caseycheesecake on Jul 17, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Drag your pointer over Summer League 2010 on the NBA.com home page
Scores & Schedules is at the top of the list.
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Tyrese Rice
Interesting guy… I think he has been the most effective PG on the Summer League team. He is able to get something going. I can’t see that the other guys are as good at getting the offense going.
I also like him because he is the fastest guy out there. He can over take anybody on the floor. Damn, that dude moves!
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Agreed.
He’s fast, has a lovely tear drop and gets everyone involved. He stood out among his PG peers in my opinion.
RIP, Coach Wooden.
Thank you, Geoff Petrie.
And
He offers something we just don’t have right now. A uptempo guy who can come in and be a spark plug off of bench. I think he deserves serious consideration.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Yes, interesting guy
He’s the highest scoring point, but also has an A/T ratio of under 1. He has 15 assists and 16 turnovers in the Vegas & Orlando Summer Leagues with Sac & Utah. I think that he dribbles too much and gets strung out on the pick & rolls. But, he is the most aggressive of the 3 pts.
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I noticed that as well
He’s quick, but his ball handling isn’t great. He got his pocket picked quite a few times, and quite a few other times players were able to get a hand on the ball yet Rice still retained possession.
It may just be that he is the only G with PG skills. Seems like most of the other Gs are SG types.
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not a fan of rice...
as evidenced by the a/t ratio that you’ve mentioned. undersized. poor vision. a volume scorer. d-league or europe bound.
agree that sloan has looked kinda sloppy. but his handles, for his size, is solid. hope he figures it out before it’s too late.
downey has actually looked the best of the point guards.
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by kingsbruins02 on Jul 17, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Rice seems like an Earl Boykins clone, though a little taller and slower
But he doesn’t have very good court vision and isn’t much on defense.
I really hope we keep Downey and Christmas, but I have a feeling it’s going to be Sloan and Landesberg.
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by CaliforniaJag on Jul 17, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
One big thing that the commentators pointed out
was that Cousins was able to forget about the first half, and have a really good second half. I like that, the 10 fouls however, I don’t really like (granted it looked like the refs were calling it super tight, and the commentators mentioned they were being too tight, but he’s a King now so he better learn to play with poor officiating)
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by prowseinthehouse on Jul 17, 2010 9:49 AM PDT reply actions
You bring up a number of good talking points
Consistency is the most ellusive of skills for any young player. It was/is Tyreke’s most impressive stat (IMO). DMV has, in 4 exhibition games, been remarkably similiar.
Omri is the more consistent in “3 spot” Wars. But once pre-season starts Cisco may be more reliable and therefore the starter. By that same token, it depends on where DMC ends up on the rotatation; I would be surprised if he starts over Dally and Landry. When he comes in there should be vets out there to assist young Cuz and this may be a better place to use Cisco.
Which leads to Hassan Upside. I expect him to follow in the footsteps of Donte – slow erratic progession. When (not if) Brockman signs, we are looking at a 3 min per game rookie average for the young Marshall product.
by betweentheeyes on Jul 17, 2010 9:51 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Unless we sign a 2
I think it is very likely that Garcia will be starting at the 2, not the 3. Coach and others have said they really like Beno off the bench to bring a spark and ball handling. Beno and Tyreke played well together but we are very short on ball handlers and need Tyreke or Beno in the game at all times. I don’t know who will start at the 3 and nobody else does either. It seems likely that Landry will start at the 4 and Dalembert will start at center at the beginning of the season because their styles of play are very complimentary. Beno, Casspi/Greene, JT, and Cousins off the bench gives us a quality 9. Whiteside will be involved in the future but probably not much this year. I actually hope Brock gets a good contract somewhere else because he is a great guy and a solid player but we now have crazy depth at the 4 and 5.
It was good to see DMC bounce back from that first half
The Kings might actually have found a way to win if he hadn’t fouled out. He needs to learn to pick his spots on fouls, though he wasn’t helped by the refs. He drew at least two charges where he was called for blocking fouls.
Also a little confused why Whiteside was sitting so much in the second half – the team really missed him when he wasn’t on the floor. I don’t want to get too ahead of myself, but I feel like his offense is beyond where JT’s was at the same age, and assuming Whiteside can learn positioning and when/when not to go for blocks, he’s going to be a really solid contributor on both ends sooner rather than later. Although his hands aren’t perfect and balls will occasionally slip through his hands, he’s a better rebounder than I expected as well.
I’m similarly surprised at how sentiment around here seems to have swung so thoroughly in Donte’s favor over Omri even as he puts together a solid summer league and after a night when Donte nearly ended up with as bad of shooting numbers as DMC (Donte was 6-18, DMC 5-18). I’m definitely encouraged that Donte looks a lot more comfortable with the ball and is developing some Hedo-esque go-to moves hitting elbow jump shots off the dribble, but Omri is also looking a bit more comfortable slashing and on the break. Flip a coin.
Still think it’s Landesberg who has the inside track to make the team. Thompson is scrappy, but I think Landesberg’s ballhandling ability gives him the edge. He even played point guard for a stretch.
Word.
I concur with this –
bq. Also a little confused why Whiteside was sitting so much in the second half – the team really missed him when he wasn’t on the floor. I don’t want to get too ahead of myself, but I feel like his offense is beyond where JT’s was at the same age, and assuming Whiteside can learn positioning and when/when not to go for blocks, he’s going to be a really solid contributor on both ends sooner rather than later.
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Whiteside has some moves and a nice stroke
but his fundumentals and basketball IQ are way low. It doesn’t help that he is probably the weakest person on the floor at any given time, he can’t even hold on to the ball that well. People have been saying he has bad hands, but I really think its a matter of lifting a weight or to for a while. He does seem more talented than JT at the same age, but Whiteside looks more like he is 18 than 21
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Omri and Donte'
I’m similarly surprised at how sentiment around here seems to have swung so thoroughly in Donte’s favor over Omri even as he puts together a solid summer league and after a night when Donte nearly ended up with as bad of shooting numbers as DMC (Donte was 6-18, DMC 5-18).
I’m with you on this, thier numbers are pretty identical offensive efficiency wise and Omri is a much better rebounder. Omri has looked a bit discouraged out there though so body language may be part of it.
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by lietothegirls on Jul 17, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Donte vs Omri
I believe what we’re seeing isn’t what the regular season will be. It’s pretty obvious from Omri’s lack of outside shoots that the Kings are having him work on his driving and finishing skills to augment his outside shooting in the regular season.
As for Donte, it almost looks like the Kings are testing he’s SG skills. They continue to run sets with Cuz, HW, Omri, Donte and a PG. NO true SG, except one time when they had Sloan and no PG. And, they truth is that the offense has looked better when Donte & Omri aren’t on the court together. I truely hope that the Kings aren’t anticipating using either of the SF’s at the 2 this year.
Landesberg just doen’t fit the type of player that the Kings continue to say that they need. That being an outside shooter who can play in the backcourt with Reke. Landesberg is 0 for 1 from beyond the arc in VSL and Thompson & Christmas are 1-3. Sloan is 0 for 2 from 3 and 2 for 10 from the field, and Downey hasn’t even taken a 3 pt-shot yet. Rice is the shooter, 9-15 field and 2-5 from 3, and he had a similar performance with Utah in the Orlando SL, shooting 7-16 field and 2-5 from 3’s.
So far, I really don’t see anyone other than Rice who can shoot, and think that the Kings might be better off looking elsewhere for players to make the regular season roster.
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It was a mediocre first half performance as far as scoring goes but
King Boogie bounced back in the second half, which is what great players do. He was still able to help his team with rebounds and passing. King Boogie would’ve had at least 3 more assist if his teammates made their shots.
Hated Kamla’s criticism of King Boogie but I guess that’s his job. I liked how Dennis Scott reiterated that he wanted to wait until the second half to make a judgment call on King Boogie’s performance.
This was a great game to watch and I look forward to seeing how these young Kings respond today after a tough loss. Whiteside’s blocking is the truth and I think he’s going to contribute as much as Brocktimus Prime did in his rookie year (in a shotblocking way of course).
RIP, Coach Wooden.
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Re: Donte v Casspi
I’m firmly in the Donte camp and its not because of the numbers. He’s just shown better chemistry with Boogie (he’s the one that set up Boogie’s man-jam over three Pistons), a far more dynamic game off the dribble to create his shot, and a better overall attitude on the floor. He’s an awesome glue guy with a lot of talent.
Casspi has gotten his points a lot on leakouts, broken plays (of which Summer League is infamous for) and hustle. Which is not to discredit his points, I just feel that Donte is a superior player. Both guys’ jumpshots have been eratic though and thats one aspect I hope both fix before training camp.
I wonder how much fatigue affected Demarcus' game at this point in summer league.
He has played 4 games in 5 days playing 30 plus minutes a game along with practice and whatever else they have him doing.
His 0 for 10 in the first half seemed a little inflated. 3 of those misses came in 10 seconds as he kept getting his own rebound and missing the put backs. He didn’t seem to have much lift as he jumped (He doesn’t have great hops anyway, but less than usual). I think he had his hands full backing down Dorsey and then Ed Davis would swoop in as soon as DMC made his move.
After a little rest from halftime and also sitting on the bench because of foul trouble he seemed to come out and play much better, which was encouraging. I wonder if he will struggle more against strong forwards/center whom he can’t overpower as much.
I doubt that the 10 minutes rest between halves rejuvinated him.
He’s shooting 41% from the field on 27 of 66 shots in the 4 games, so he hasn’t been burning up the nets. 17 points per game on 17 shots is very poor for a big man. But, the Kings are forcing the ball into his hands and telling his to show everything he’s got. They need to know his in game strengths and weaknesses so that they can work on a offensive/defensive game plan for the season.
I’m sure that in the regular season, the offense isn’t going to be run thru DMC like we’re seeing now. He’s going to be getting his points off the offensive glass and from setups much closer to the rim. If he keeps taking those fade away jumpers during the regular season, I think PW will pull him aside and set him straight.
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I think Cousins is as advertised
Extremely talented, conditioning and durability is a question mark, as is his temperament. It’s going to be interesting to see how good he can be if he gets into NBA shape.
I believe he can be incredible if he can get his weight to 275 like Cal said.
To me he looks heavy around the basket and lacks lift a lot of times. He is so talented that he is still able to get stuff done, but he will be facing much better competition in the regular season.
I know its summer league, but...
if DMC’s bad game is getting 16 and 12, were doing pretty well. I’m most impressed with the fact that he knows when he is struggling, he gets his teammates involved
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Cousins is playing 75% of the center minutes and 4 games in 5 nights,
we will never see him play that much in the regular season. If we do he will hit the rookie wall before Christmas. This is a test or a statement by the coaching staff to Cousins that he’s going to have to work extremely hard on his conditioning to make it thru a complete NBA season.
So far he’s shown some nice moves and some decent outside shooting, but the doubles he’s going to see during the season will be much harder to beat. The lack of good guard play is making him have to get the ball too far from the rim most of the time. He needs to get the ball on the blocks or in the paint, and not along the sideline 12 ft from the rim. The Forwards need to get the ball in the 12-15 ft area, not the Center.
He’s shown some great moves offensively, but there are some voids on the defensive end. Guards are still getting to the rim too easily and Cuz’s 1 blk per game isn’t that impressive. Also, the turnovers are way out of control, although during the regular season I don’t expect the offense to run thru him as much as it is in SL.
He’s an enormously talented rookie, and like most rookies his offense is ahead of his defense. And, with Westphal defense is more important than offense, so don’t expect Paul to hand over the starting job to Cuz until he shows that he can be as good as Dalembert on that end of the court.
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we will never see him play that much in the regular season. If we do he will hit the rookie wall before Christmas.
That would suck, but…that would mean Christmas made the final roster!
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by CaliforniaJag on Jul 17, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by CaliforniaJag on Jul 17, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Wow…hook, line and sinker!
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by PhutureKings on Jul 18, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't know it would be you, but I did set that up for someone , on purpose.
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Good one:)
Seriously, I saw Christmas in Israeli league and he was really good. Can be a nice backup guard for Kings.
Weird...
I saw Han Eeka playing in the Catholic League.
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by PhutureKings on Jul 18, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I think this game showed us our need for a true athletic SG
It was clear that Omri and Donte both couldn’t guard either of the Raptors 2’s in DeRozan and Weems. They were not fast enough, and seemed like they were on their heels most of the time on defense afraid of getting blown by. It allowed DeRozan and Weems to get open jumpers most of the game.
I don’t know where we will get our athletic or defensive SG (Whether that ends up being Garcia or not), but it is clear that we need one or Tyreke could end up having to guard the opponents best backcourt player most of the time.
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it was the first game I've watched, and I watched only the first half
My thoughts:
Big Cuz looked gassed. He was throwing up junk. He wasn’t even trying to establish position on the low block. Instead, he’d jog to the high post/wing, then turn and demand the ball. I don’t know how a PG can distinguish himself when his role is limited to crossing mid court and bouncing it to Big Cuz at the wing. His body language was poor, he hung his head, looked sulky. On the condition front, he moved like a guy whose “core” is not particularly strong. Got to work on that. On defense, he seemed mostly out of position, and flailing an arm here or there in a desperate attempt to deflect a pass.
Overall, he looked ragged.
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by southern oregon on Jul 17, 2010 1:47 PM PDT reply actions
This is a bit off topic, but is there any word on who'll get the starting PF position?
Landry is best off the bench and Jt plays better at C; what is PW planning on doing with that situation?
F*ck you Rob Sarver!
Knowing Westphal
Seven different players will get a start at PF, he’ll evaluate the whole season, decide on who the starter should be 10 games before the season is over, and then we’ll do the whole thing over the next year with a new roster.
Not that I’m cynical about his rotations. Evaluation!!!!
sign this guy...cont. to roll dice on tall trees kings
plays great d-size gets in way… both ends-looking good playing against kings oN LA…
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