Jon Brockman to the Bucks?
As FanShotted Sunday by someone who proceeded to act like a jerk, Seattle sports talk radio host Softy Mahler is reporting the Brock Ness Monster is heading to Milwaukee.
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Honestly, As long as we are getting something in return, I am fine with this.
Brockman was a great player who knew his role last year. He was the symbol of how the Kings are trying to turn it around.
Fast forward 1 offseason, and there is no PT left for him with the acquisitions of SammyD, and the drafting of DMC, and Hassan Whiteside.
I would love Delfino as a physical backcourt mate for Reke and a deep ball shooter.
His contract is 3.5M for this year, then a 3.5M team option for the next. So Delfino would be just getting a little tryout here. And he is still just 27.
But really, when we arent going to get anything out of Brockman, a sign and trade involving him would be fine with me.
Plus I heard they sell pretty good pancakes in Milwaukee. Its a dream fit for both of us.
"Morrison beats Casspi 1 on 1". - MarcusC
Nothing new here
But still, something in print from the Seattle Times.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Not a suprise to me
I hope we find a good situation for him
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
This is how i see it too...
I love Brockness, but he’s going to be absolutely buried on this roster by both solid vets (Landry/Dally) and young guys who need minutes (JT/DMC). I think it’s in the best interest of both Brockness AND The Kings to go their separate ways, and I hope they can find him a good home out there in the NBA to show off his stuff.
We will always be rooting for him.
next year
he will be missed. whiteside is 2-3 years off i think. looks lost most of the time on the floor. next year i’m guessing kings won’t want to ink samuel to a long-term deal so he may be gone. that puts you down to JT, Carl & DMC in the rotation – an injury and you’d like to have a 4th guy. I don’t think Whiteside will be that guy next year but JB could.
:(
Don’t go Mancakes! We’ll buy you 100 IHOPs!
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by Muff209 on Jul 19, 2010 9:16 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
You are taking the rumors the wrong way...
You see, Brockman was in Seattle. Seattle starts with an S. Therefore, it is fairly clear to see that Brockman will soon be traded to the San Antonio Spurs, who also start with an S.
"Morrison beats Casspi 1 on 1". - MarcusC
by Surprise Team on Jul 19, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
And let them line up Brockman AND Blair?
God help us all.
This.
by elfboy_ on Jul 19, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's like
Grey Hulk and Green Hulk teamin up… Scary!
Geek attack over. That is all.
by Rickyflip on Jul 19, 2010 2:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope this isn't true.
He is fun to watch and root for…will always remember the Bulls game.
Vi Victa Vis
by cicero on Jul 19, 2010 9:25 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I asked him about his contract situation with the Kings and if he was going to be at summer league about 2 weeks ago and got no reply.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
Cut the cord beetches...
Personally, Jon Brockman is a guy you want on your team for intangibles. He has strong character, great locker room chemistry and drive on the floor.
From a business standpoint the guy is undersized, and as mentioned above, is now ABSOLUTELY BURIED on the depth chart to where he isn’t going to see many important minutes behind all of our other 4’s and 5’s. It doesn’t hurt anything but heartstrings if he leaves.
Also, I thought Nessie was an unrestricted free agent. What is all of this sign and trade mularky? Wouldn’t he just take MIL’s offer instead of ours?
With all of that being said, I can be happy for Brockman if he goes to Milwaukee or any other city where they might utilize him more. On a personal level (one of the magnitude of seeing Scot Pollard leave or Jon Barry leave) yeah it sucks a little bit.
I guess the point of my rant is, when watching the games next season he will hardly be missed at all.
Restricted FA
"Morrison beats Casspi 1 on 1". - MarcusC
by Surprise Team on Jul 19, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup.
The Kings gave Jon his qualifying offer.
by unfair weather on Jul 19, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the only concern
is he plays the game the right way and was very effective in spots as a rookie. Then you see the way Cousins act sometimes in comparison and it makes you want to hurl.
If that’s the “future,” I hope Cousin cleans up his act. Jon Brockman could certainly teach him a think or two about composure and class.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
Brockman is also 23
I’ll be interested in seeing how Cousins progresses emotionally over the next 4 years.
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CDR is nice, with big upside, but.............
Carlos Delfino would be a much better fit. Nails defender, doesn’t need the ball in his hands to be effective, and is a very effective 3 point shooter. Would be a major score for the Kings providing this story has any legs at all.
by Devastation Co. MMA on Jul 19, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like Andres Nocioni...
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
But he's not a total chucker from what I gather, and he's actually a good defender.
As has been noted in the past, Nocioni was a physical defender, not necessarily a good defender.
"Cousins is the Blaster to Evans’ Master, the Hammer to Evans’ Sickle"- HP
by tomroadrunner on Jul 19, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
True... lets hope his contact is not as bad.
watching Delfino in the playoffs last year, it seemed like the Bucks were very high on him.
They are making a push to significance in the EAST… I would think Minus Delfino, Plus Nessie… is taking a step backwards.
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
They just picked up CDR.
He could develop into a point-a-minute type guy off the bench in the right situation.
by unfair weather on Jul 19, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, they made alot of moves...maybe too many
I mean, they over paid Salmons IMO, and picked up Maggette, which, um… yeah
now they land a young CDR, who is unproven. I would think they would want a Vet that can play D and shoot the Three…
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
Yeah.
They’re another one of those cusp teams whose best talent is a mix of too young and too old.
by unfair weather on Jul 19, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
well said...
reminds me of our first round loss to the Spurs. which I predict will happen to the Bucks.
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
I think they might be better than that
They really need Bogut to keep playing like he was before he got hurt and if Jennings can develop quickly they might be better than people think. The two of them plus the guys they signed this offseason makes for a pretty good team in the East, even if they are overpriced
#vfettkefordraft
They might be better than the Kings that year...
but they will not secure a top 4 seed… will they?
I see them in a 3-6 matchup… losing to the Bulls.
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
I agree
I think they have a deep roster. THat said, I would love to get Delfino.
by MichaelMack on Jul 19, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
They need one more big guy though
Even adding Larry Sanders (who looked great) they need another big body to eat up some minutes.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jul 19, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Larry Sanders did impress me
I am guessing they did not expect that… and to your comment below. CDR is better than anyone we had. Agreed.
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
They traded J Jordan to the Knicks
so a little light on the big guys.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jul 19, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Who is CDR?
"Cousins is the Blaster to Evans’ Master, the Hammer to Evans’ Sickle"- HP
by tomroadrunner on Jul 19, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Chris Douglas-Roberts
"Morrison beats Casspi 1 on 1". - MarcusC
by Surprise Team on Jul 19, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Or Ron Mercer...same guy.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
Probably better for both sides if he can get minutes there
My guess is that it would be a trade exception and 2nd Rounder coming back to the Kings. And hopefully if this happens the team signs Chsim as the 5th big.
How 'bout a little elaboration?
Just not good enough to sit on the disabled list most of the year?
by unfair weather on Jul 19, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Chism feedback
I was lucky enough to watch all the VSL games he played in and was def underwhelmed. He is a 4 year college player, who played big time minutes at a big time program (Tenn). I think he has a poor shot selection and really seemed lost at times with his help defense and post presence. I expected him to be vocal and more of a leader give his college experience and did not see that. He does not seem like the kind of guy who would be able to make a impact with limited minutes, which I think we can all agree that is all he will get. Does not seem to have a huge upside like a few other guys.
by mbcarval on Jul 19, 2010 11:28 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
"Does not seem to have a huge upside like a few other guys"
Like what other guys? We’re talking about a potential sixth big and 13th man here, not someone we’re hoping is going to come in and be a superstar. Chism has good size, strength, skills, and hustle. He’s not supposed to come in and be vocal and be a leader, he’s supposed to show that he can be a good fit and be a good energizer, which I thought he proved he was more than capable of.
He shot 57% from the field and 75% from the line, so I don’t know where your concerns about his shot selection come from, and he had 5.4 boards in 17.4 minutes.
this
Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed
by wallywagon11 on Jul 19, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I say we... we form a circle..
and Summon the Great Lawrence Funderburke. I agree with Nbrans… Chism would make a good 13th guy.
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
He can't even wear a headband right...
It’s nitpicking and petty, but damn it eats away at me every time I have to look at it, and I just don’t want a season full of that….
"We're all here because we're not all there..."
Chism signed with a Turkish team
I gather his agent has been told that either way, he wouldn’t be with the Kings this season.
That's my understanding too
but maybe they decided that barring a lot of playing time, Turkey woud be best. He looked like he was playing for a spot to me though.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jul 19, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh snap, T-Zilly put in his place by his minions!
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
He would send Aykis to do his bidding and I can handle him unless he brings Nicholson...
then I will unleash Toby- age 7- and we should be all good.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
Have you no mercy?!
Oh, the humanity!
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 19, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably only going to get us a future second round pick or some sort of 2nd round pick swap. I’d be glad if we did get CDR or Delfino, but why would they do that when they just got CDR. Maybe Delfino is expendable because of Maggette and Salmons?
by dj3ptspecialist44 on Jul 19, 2010 10:08 AM PDT reply actions
If I had to guess it would be CDR who is available
and he is a far better player than any of the guards we had in summer league.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Milw has at least 16 players right now so someone will have to go one way or another.
Anyone know why Hobson, that guard they picked 7th in the 2nd round didn’t play in summer league?
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jul 19, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
(I see, he strained his groin right before Summer League)
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jul 19, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Right groin injury.
"Morrison beats Casspi 1 on 1". - MarcusC
by Surprise Team on Jul 19, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
If you have a groin injury
it ain’t ever right
And what is with these radio guys with the odd names? When born, people don’t name themselves, they are named. But as a radio personality you pick your own moniker. Whitey? Softy? Why?
by betweentheeyes on Jul 19, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I really do hope it is CDR I mean seriously CDR for Jon Brockman who would have took CDR in the 2nd round last year had he been in the draft. We need guards no disrespect to Brockman I love the guy he’d run through a wall for his team, but our current makeup of the team he is no longer needed.
by dj3ptspecialist44 on Jul 19, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I think CDR
is probably the piece we get back. He fills a need, fills the salary spot and makes is on a similar talent level. Just a simple swap between the two is what I am imagining.
He's an intriguing talent
very fast, very athletic as I recall.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jul 19, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
He's actually not very athletic
He has an “old-school” game…lots of floaters, bank shots, mid-range jumpers, etc. The type of stuff people usually overlook. I like CDR…he’d be a nice pickup.
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by CaliforniaJag on Jul 19, 2010 11:02 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
I aways thought he had a better deep-ball game, but looking at his stats he takes and makes very few 3 pointers, which surprised me, because I remember him being a deadly shooter at Memphis with Rose.
I hate to see Brockman go but I've been wondering why he has been taking so long to sign his qualifying offer
Little surprised because it was for more than they had to offer him by roughly 200k or so. I wonder if they bumped his qualifying offer to make him a slightly more valuable trade piece if that makes any sense. If the rumor is true, good for Jon, guys like him need to get on the floor to show what they can do in order to stick in the league. His style of play is a good fit for Scott Stiles. On the other hand the rumor was that the Nets traded CDR because he wasn’t a good locker room guy. His side says he was just frustrated because of the season the Nets had last year. Who knows?
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
getting traded twice will humble him down
or show he doesn’t belong int he league.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jul 19, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactky
I’d like to hear a concrete report from somebody anybody about what the deal is going to be and if it is indeed true or not
by dj3ptspecialist44 on Jul 19, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Not sure about CDR
A shooting guard that can’t shoot… doesn’t seem like a great fit.
Coach Cal up to tricks again? Is he trying to end up coaching his former players all in SacTown?
He's a scorer.
He doesn’t have a bad shot, he just doesn’t have shooting range. I think he could develop into a better shooter overall but he would be a pretty nice find if that is the way this goes down. The Bucks acquired him when they got wind that Salmons was opting out. Then they traded for Maggette and Salmons resigned. In a sense, CDR was nothing but insurance on Salmons and now they don’t need him. He is almost identical to Ron Mercer IMO- another guy who could really score from mid range and who wore out his welcome a few times with his lack of conscience.
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
No more Brockness Monster?
Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy.
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CDR is a 25% 3PT Shooter.
Pass.
Putting Tyreke and CDR on the floor at the same time would allow the defenses to sag in and double the post easily. Not a good enough shooter.
"Morrison beats Casspi 1 on 1". - MarcusC
Percentages aren't everything
What’s Jon Brockman’s 3PT percentage??? It doesn’t matter we need guards, yes I agree we need guards that can shoot, but shooting numbers can improve bad percentages doesn’t mean a guy can’t shoot. I don’t even know if we are getting the guy, but he’s a good player and fits a greater need than our beloved Brockman. There’s no room for him on this team any more the writing was on the wall when Spencer left.
by dj3ptspecialist44 on Jul 19, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
0%... He was 0-0
your argument is invalid.
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
There was no arguement
I wasn’t trying to argue my point was Brockman isn’t a guard. We don’t need him we have too much in our front court to where he’s expendable so having someone like CDR as a guard is better than having Brockman who probably wouldn’t get on the floor enough to help us with all of our forwards. CDR if that’s who is coming our way will definitely get PT and help us as a guard, because that’s where we lack.
by dj3ptspecialist44 on Jul 19, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, we Lack Guards... I get that.
and nobody is doubting that Brockman is expendable, however, PW has been quoted, as saying we need Shooters. I am not sold that CDR is a good pickup simply because he is a guard. I mean… Dont we want a guard that can shoot? and 3PT % is one thing we can key on.
Besides, this whole Brockman thing is Strange anyhow…
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
If we can get anything for someone we don’t need I am happy even if it is a guard who can’t shoot based on percentages. Maybe he can contribute in other aspects. Again we don’t know who the hell we are getting.
by dj3ptspecialist44 on Jul 19, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
if we are getting anyone at all....
If I remember correctly, the guy slipped in the draft. and now his Second Team, who just aquired him, replaced him on roster. I see Flags. but then again, this team did draft Boogie. So…
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
GREAT! now whenever we play the Bucks, Brockman will put up 50 on us!
by The Guy on the Couch on Jul 19, 2010 12:08 PM PDT reply actions
50 rebounds...or 25 rebounds and 25 hard, no-call fouls.
I’ll miss the guy.
RIP, Coach Wooden.
Thank you, Geoff Petrie.
by JETisKing on Jul 19, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I believe if a player is coming back to the Kings it's Delfino
Delfino is 28 and next years contract isn’t fully guaranteed, so his contract is one on which the Kings can take a gamble. And, he’s more of a outside shooter which the Kings need. Plus he’s not part of the Bucks future because of his age and he’ll be 30 when he comes up for a new contract. Plus the Bucks signed Maggette for the SF position and he has 3 years left on his contract. And, Salmons just signed a long contract to be the starting 2.
Redd isn’t expected back until Feb but that shouldn’t be an issue. He might not play for them again anyways, since his expiring contract might be the best thing about his return.
The Bucks do seem to have a good line up of PF’s with Gooden, Illyosova, and the rookie Sanders. But I’m guessing that Gooden is going to see some minutes at Center, so Brockman come be a nice piece for them.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
I'd be very happy getting Delfino
CDR, not so much. Delfino fills a need, is relatively cheap and is a respectable short term solution at the 2.
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I love me some Brockness Monster
Meet him last year after a preseason game an dhe’s a class act. It is (or was) an honor to root for such a hard working guy. If it’s true he’s going East, I will probably try to get his jersey and wear it proudly even after only one year here in Sac.
That being said, Jon Brockman isn’t winning us many games in the future. With what the Kings have up front right now, there just isn’t room for him. Hopefully he lands in a good situation where he can get some minutes and contribute; he deserves that. The Kings are just not that situation for him anymore.
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
If anybody needs some humor
in their life, I suggest some of the posts on the Bucks RealGM board.
Classic shit.
You’d think we were trading them some overpaid, malcontent, bust for their best player.
Did you see this:
Landry and Beno for Redd, Jackson(i.e of the DARNELL variety), Ilyasova, Rights to Tiny Gallon and MAYBE a 1st round pick?
And then the next guy follows up with a response of: “That is way way way way way overpaying, there’s no way in hell do I make that trade”
LOL you gotta be kidding me. Both Landry and Udrih are two productive starters in the NBA and they’re giving up a gimp that may never play in the league again, two scrubs, Ilyasova and ‘MAYBE’ a first rounder? Are you serious?
That’s royal!
Also
the comment giving Shaq props for coming up with the Brockness Monster nickname was good.
Poor Aykis. The Rodney Dangerfield of STR.
I miss Amick.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Jul 19, 2010 12:56 PM PDT reply actions
um yeah. me too.
(all lower case because i’m trying to say this quietly)
Truth is, on talent alone, and nothing else, I’d rank DMC 1st.
PookeyGuru- June 1, 2010.
***Update***
Cousins can be a major star.
PookeyGuru- June 23, 2010.
If Sam was the beat guy for the King still
He’d have dug up what the receiving piece(s) would be for the Kings by now. This has been linked for like 12+ hours now.
Get on this Jason “L@k%rs fan” Jones!
Woj confirms
@ WojYahooNBA Bucks are close to acquiring Jon Brockman in sign and trade with Kings for Darnell Jackson and a future 2nd round pick, league source says.
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA
Jackson is enh – big body, not very athletic and not very skilled. Seems like this is a way of getting more money for Brock – Bucks were over the cap and a S&T allows them to sign him for more than the minimum.
We'll miss you, Brocktimus Prime!
Brandon Jennings will need an enforcer like Brocktimus around in the playoffs.
RIP, Coach Wooden.
Thank you, Geoff Petrie.
Brockman and Ilyasova will have fun in practice
They are basically the same guy. Glue guys who fight like hell and do a lot of things that don’t show up in the box score.
On Darnell Jackson: I may be wrong, but seems to me he was a guy who really slid down the draft boards. I think he was initially listed top 10 or at least lottery-bound in the early mocks, but probably didn’t have a good enough senior season.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
Brockness go home boy, go...
It is logical, the brockness monster will have a good home with Milwaukee. Folsom Lake can’t compare with Lake Michigan. As long as he has a place to run around and be free and his new owners will feed him well and take care of him.
by moto9er on Jul 20, 2010 1:32 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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