Bucks are close to acquiring Jon Brockman in sign and trade with Kings for Darnell Jackson and a future 2nd round pick.
Jackson's contract is fully unguaranteed for the 2010-11 season.
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So long Brockman
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appropriate face palm
being it’s a lion
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by wallywagon11 on Jul 19, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, and the three most powerful men in America are named 'Bush', 'Dick', and 'Colon.' Need I say more?"
-Chris Rock
Darnell Jackson?
Wha…?
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
Bright spot for us guys
Brock gets to set mean picks on Jennings every day in practice now.
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by Aykis16 on Jul 19, 2010 2:24 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Also
This solves the Milwaukee or Chicago League Pass dilemma for Vfettke.
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And actually, it makes my dilemma worse
My teams were Sac, Miami, OKC, Phoenix and I was trying to decide between Chicago and Milwaukee. But Phoenix could be on the cusp since I’m not sure they’ll be all that good. That way I could pick both Milwaukee and Chicago. But, the Suns have Nash and Dragic. God damn it, it’s so hard! (TWSS!)
You’d think I’d have more pressing concerns in regard to moving to the Middle East, but really as long as I have basketball and an X-Box I don’t really give a shit about the more important details.
#vfettkefordraft
Chicago would be cool to watch
With their new-look lineup involving Boozer, Brewer, and Korver.
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by Surprise Team on Jul 19, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
This gets Brock more money
The S&T is really just a formality – the Bucks were over the cap and the only way they could pay Brock more than the minimum was through a S&T. Kings get a look at Darnell Jackson (who is decidedly enh) and a second rounder (we’ll see what the protections are).
Most important is that it gets Brock to a better situation. He wasn’t going to have a role on the Kings, so they did right by him.
by nbrans on Jul 19, 2010 2:24 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
My guess is the Kings are going to waive Jackson.
He’s not really even worth a look.
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I thought so too.
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by Surprise Team on Jul 19, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, true
By taking on Jackson we just spared Milwaukee from having to use a trade exception to take on Brock’s salary.
Trade exception?
They aren’t under the cap so they wouldn’t be able to just take him outright, would they?
#vfettkefordraft
The Bucks could have taken him outright using a trade exception in a S&T
The Bucks are over the cap, but according to the ESPN trade machine they have a $1.75 million exception from a Francisco Elson trade. So theoretically the Bucks could have sent an exception in the amount of Brock’s salary up to $1.75 million to the Kings in exchange for a signed Brock.
Instead, the Bucks sent Jackson instead, which preserves their trade exception for later and reduces their salary total. That’s probably the consideration that netted the Kings the 2nd Rounder.
That has to be correct,
because Darnell Jackson is horrible. I guess now they can keep another player from the summer league team. I am not sure how impressive Sloan has been. Maybe Rice, RT, Chism, or Landesberg. I am leaning toward Landesberg.
We will miss ya Brockness!
I like Christmas
along with all the players you just mentioned, Sloan has been very meh
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 21, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep
The Kings weren’t going to pay $1 million to keep him. At least they got a potential second rounder (depending on conditions) out of it. They wouldn’t have matched an offer sheet for this price (assuming it’s in excess of $1M).
Do why not grab CDR or Delfino?
Bucks are loaded on the wings. We really could use a little more quality wing depth. Darnell Jackson? Bleh, whatever. I’m sure he gets waived. I’d rather have CDR than their 2nd rounder.
Of course you'd rather have CDR than their 2nd rounder
So would the Bucks. When you guys think of NBA trades you can’t just take into account what you would want for your team. You have to take into account both teams, and also reality.
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by Aykis16 on Jul 19, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
Yep
The world is not your Trade Machine.
by Tom Ziller on Jul 19, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
You can always use it too.
JJ eventually will change his.
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Personally, I'm not a fan of CDR, I think he is a fringe talent in the NBA.
AND he’s a headcase I mean sure New Jersey wasn’t the best situation last year, but he was basically banished from the team.
For Nessie, THIS IS HUGE. Skiles will probably end up starting the guy and he will put up solid numbers next to a guy like Bogut. Good Luck Nessie!
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by lifestyleforthesellout on Jul 19, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
If the Bucks didn't want to part with CDR or Delfino
They didn’t have to. I doubt signing Jon Brockman is such a make-or-break proposition for them that they were going to give up too much to make it happen. Seems like they were willing to give up a few minor pieces, but if it got to complicated or if they had to give up too much there was no reason for them to go overboard for a bench guy.
And from the Kings’ perspective, they could scuttle it just to scuttle it or take what’s reasonable to get Brock more money and a better situation. They did the right thing.
by nbrans on Jul 19, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I nominate you
To be the one who calls Brock and says, “Sorry pal, we know there’s a team that would be a much better situation for you and would pay you $1 million more than we would be willing to pay you, but we have unrealistic expectations for what we can get back in a sign and trade so we’re not going to do it. Yes, we just cost you $1 million dollars and the opportunity for more playing time, sorry about that!!! By the way we’d like you to show up at 6am at a charity event tomorrow.”
by nbrans on Jul 19, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 18 recs
Humphrey, I've enjoyed your sensible posts for a while, but this one makes me put it on the record.
Rec’d.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
while I don't care about the SnT and look forward to the Kings selling that 2nd rounder...
I disagree with your assertion that the Kings owed him anything.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
It's things like this
That can only help the reputation of Petrie & Co. with the players around the league.
A small investment made, and they do right by a fan favorite and good soldier. That’s smart business in my book.
This is a good point.
It is good business from that end. That’s also why Petrie isn’t super picky on handing out MLE deals to players like Beno. It means that maybe a better talented player down the road might sign here because he knows he will get his money.
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I'm pretty sure the way the Kings conduct business
is viewed by the majority of players and agents as a plus.
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Could Milwaukee have offered $1 million?
If not then it seems that there probably won’t be many conditions on the second rounder, otherwise it’d make no sense to help the Bucks to get him
#vfettkefordraft
Yeah using their Bi Annual Exception they could have.
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Well
I’m sure the Kings didn’t actually have an opportunity to sign-and-trade Brockman for a guard who can shoot.
Again
I’m sure the Kings didn’t actually have an opportunity to sign-and-trade Brockman for a guard who can shoot.
by Tom Ziller on Jul 19, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
LOL owned Smills.
You got copied AND pasted!
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by Surprise Team on Jul 19, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Did a Kings guard even hit a jump shot
in that last game – prior to the 4th quarter?
I don’t think so, zero, none.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
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by lietothegirls on Jul 20, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
look at the bright side
they could’ve sent us a guard who can shoot by the name of Michael Redd
#vfettkefordraft
by vfettke on Jul 19, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good trade.
We had no PT left for Brockman, so we got something out of him. All that matters to me was that “future 2nd rounder”
"Morrison beats Casspi 1 on 1". - MarcusC
Basically the Kings didn't want to pay as much for Brockman as Milwaukee did
Especially with all the bigs we have now, and the Kings were able to get a 2nd round pick out of it, and an unguaranteed contract in Jackson, who is most likely going to be waived (I’d honestly rather have Chism or even Connor Atchley than Jackson).
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And another part of my signature bites the dust.
Goodbye Jon.
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All part of the Aykis and pains, my friend.
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
by Balky Needs on Jul 19, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Look at it this way
1) Brock Ness Monster nickname made Brock way more popular and marketable
2) Brockman’s value probably inflated for an end-of-bench-guy in part due to popularity
3) That extra value over his actual production probably contributed to the Kings getting a (possibly highly conditional) 2nd Round pick out of this
If I were you I would be taking complete credit for the 2nd Rounder. Even if it ends up being used on Patrick Ewing Jr.’s future son.
by nbrans on Jul 19, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
So I've contributed to the Kings by getting Tyreke an extra assist, and Patrick Ewing the Third, Esquire.
Score.
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by PhutureKings on Jul 19, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
P-yew 3?
Sounds about right
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jul 19, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Mind if we "borrow" it?;)
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by Jacob Grinyer on Jul 19, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm having pancakes for dinner to honor him by.....
mmmmm breakfast for dinner….
It's all Jim Les' fault
by nakaisgod on Jul 19, 2010 2:34 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I would not be opposed to re-signing Sean May for the minimum now actually.
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I'd rather sign Chism
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by Surprise Team on Jul 19, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
May's a veteran
and proven to be a great teammate that gets along with these guys. We don’t need anymore young guys, especially ones that likely won’t be on the team for long. I’d rather have a vet like May for a little.
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Hmm thats a good point
You have convinced me. Sean May for Prez!
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by Surprise Team on Jul 19, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Bring back my boy May!
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by SavageBeast on Jul 19, 2010 2:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Seriously
I wouldn’t mind May. Not a lot of 275 pounders who can roll out of bed, or stand up from the buffet, like Sean and nail an 18 footer.
I think we need to bring May back
so that way during the team buffet’s stops on the road, he can eat the bulk of the food so DMC doesn’t.
Or bring May back, to show DMC how to get into shape
May was in great shape last year, and it took a lot of hard work and effort for him to get that way after how big he had gotten.
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by Aykis16 on Jul 19, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
double rec
I also wouldn’t mind giving him another shot just to see whether or not he can truly piss excellence or not
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by wallywagon11 on Jul 19, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Like Chism, but May can bring....
a “big” body to bang on Cuz in practice…Dont think there is a King on the roster with the “beef” to bang with Cuz
I just like saying "Money May"
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May is now a five year veteran.
Good for almost half a million more minimum scale than a unsigned rookie-type.
Aykis, If it was your money, would you sign May over Chism? Keep in mind by taking Chism over May, you get two tropical vacations with a supermodel, a yacht, a Ferarri, and a small house.
Up to yo, man.
by unfair weather on Jul 19, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a bad choice.
So now what if instead of models, vacations, and houses, and cars, the half-million a year meant the difference between keeping the team in their town or selling them.
by unfair weather on Jul 19, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
The NBA Front Office pays part of a veterans minimum salary.
That’s what happened last year with Sean May.
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The league pays anything above what the 2nd year Min Salary would be
Here’s #11 from Coon’s:
When a player has been in the NBA for three or more seasons, and is playing under a one-year, ten-day or rest-of-season contract, the league actually reimburses the team for part of his salary – any amount above the minimum salary level for a two-year veteran. For example, in 2005-06 the minimum salary for a two-year veteran is $719,373, so for a ten-year veteran, with a minimum salary of $1,138,500, the league would reimburse the team $419,127. Only the two-year minimum salary is included in the team salary, not the player’s full salary. They do this so teams won’t shy away from signing older veterans simply because they are more expensive when filling out their last few roster spots.
So, if the Kings were to resign May for the Min for a 4 yr player $915K they would only actually have to pay him the 2 yr player Min $854K and the league pays the $61K difference.
Also, a player only has to be on a NBA roster for 1 day to gain tenure for that season.
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Why, does Chism shoot from the outside as well as May?
Because, you know, we lack that.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
Sorry for raining on your Chasm parade here,
But Chism is actually a pretty good shooter.
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by Surprise Team on Jul 19, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Is he a career 46% shooter like May?
May doesn’t give us distance for threes, but he is a quality shooter, and we don’t need him hanging around the paint in most rotations anymore.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
We have enough big men.
I’d rather re-sign Ime.
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by PhutureKings on Jul 19, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was practically a "this".
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by AnotherStupidSN on Jul 19, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually as a matter of fact, the past 2 years at Tennessee Chism had a FG% of 46.6. So yes.
That being said, I would still rather have May as a veteran and a role model on a team that is in lack of veterans.
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by Surprise Team on Jul 19, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a better shooter than May
He chucked a bit too much at Tennessee and shot only 32%, but he’s a good shooter for a big man. I think he’s more dependable from 15-20 feet than May.
we could do worse
and atleast he knows the system….and there are more pancakes for him to eat now in the greater sacramento area.
It's all Jim Les' fault
by nakaisgod on Jul 19, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did a double take at this
But when looking at the intangibles, I agree.
Especially when those intangibles allow us to continue making food jokes even though they might not be related to stacks of pancakes.
by DirtyDribblers on Jul 19, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
So Brockman for a future second then?
That’s OK , but Darnell Jackson? That dude blows, I hope you guys are right and they release him….like asap.
Good luck Nessie!
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they must have signed brock to a good sized deal
because the kings can only take back half of what the new contract is worth. Assuming Jackson’s contract is the minimum, then the deal must have been for around 2 times the minimum.
Phil Jackson, after treatment for a kidney stone "When the anesthesiologist leaned over me, he said "We named your kidney stone Kobe because it's not passing."
This means Jon Brockman isnt on the Kings anymore
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by Surprise Team on Jul 19, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
double rainbow all the way across the sky!
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by wallywagon11 on Jul 19, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Its almost a Triple Rainbow!
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This means we lose the one guy on our team who could probably put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair for that much anticipated handicap game vs Tyreke
#vfettkefordraft
by vfettke on Jul 19, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 13 recs
YOu know I approve.
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by PhutureKings on Jul 19, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm really going to miss the Brockness Monster.
But this should be good for him. More money, probably more playing time. Although we’re not getting much in return, good luck to Brock in Milwaukee.
I don't know how much more playing time Brock is gonna get in Milwaukee
They’ve got like 40 power forwards on that roster now, with Gooden, Ilyasova, Mbah a Moute, Sanders, and Tiny Gallon.
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Oh, Aykis, if you only knew as much about mathematics as you do about the Kings...
That’s 5 power forwards, not 40!
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by tomroadrunner on Jul 19, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Tiny Gallon counts as at least 35 Power Forwards by himself.
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Haha
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by tomroadrunner on Jul 19, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually I don't think the Bucks have signed Gallon yet, or their 37th pick Darington Hobson
Hobson a 6-7 guard was on the Buck VSL roster but didn’t seem to play any minutes.
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Every county in Nevada except Clark County.
That’s where Vegas is. So keep it and your wallet in your pants, stud.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
You don't have to have been to Vegas to know that.
I’ve never frequented a prostitute and I’ve never been to Vegas. Yet I know you can buy sex legally in Washoe county (I don’t know what counties is legal & illegal) which is Reno. I also knew it was illegal in Clark County.
Don’t be a dumbshit Smills.
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by pookeyguru on Jul 20, 2010 4:28 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
anytime Smills is called a dumbshit should be an automated rec’d. really surprised there arent more rec’d than this one…….
Probably cuz most people don't like it when I say that.
Two, most people aren’t up yet.
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LOL
Sigged
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by CaliforniaJag on Jul 19, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Bye Brockness
I am not the biggest fan of him as a player, but I will always respect a player with his sort of toughness and determination.
It isn’t his fault he will always be associated by me with being taken one pick after DeJuan Blair thanks to the trade down for Sergio Rodriguez.
Wojo update
Bucks and Kings have agreed to sign and trade to send Jon Brockman to Milwaukee, sources say.
No clue if Brockman reads StR
But the best of luck to you Jon. Sacramento loves and respects you. Good luck with the Bucks.
Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed
I would have loved seeing Brockman on the Thunder.
That would be a good match. His energy would fit right in with the upbeat Thunder
"Morrison beats Casspi 1 on 1". - MarcusC
Yeah, good point.
Perhaps he might play more for the Bucks, rather than get buried here, and get enough minutes to establish himself for a few years in the NBA.
can't overlook the fact that
petrie is willing to spread a little goodwill around the league to players and other organizations. this isn’t the first time the kings have let a guy go to a situation where they have a better chance of being successful. Also, this isn’t the first time he’s helped another team out dealing with a salary dump.
i have to imagine this is an overall strategy by petrie to have some chips to cash in at a later date when he needs some assistance in making a big deal.
Careful now, the same could be said of the Al Jefferson trade...
Kahn is willing to spread a little goodwill around the league to players and other organizations. this isn’t the first time the Twolves have let a guy go to a situation where they have a better chance of being successful. Also, this isn’t the first time he’s helped another team out dealing with a salary dump.
i have to imagine this is an overall strategy by Kahn to have some chips to cash in at a later date when he needs some assistance in making a big deal.
by RaboKarabekian on Jul 19, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
with brandon jenning's shooting percentage
at least the bucks realized they need all the offensive rebounding they can get
by Madzillagd on Jul 19, 2010 2:52 PM PDT reply actions 12 recs
Burned.
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by Aykis16 on Jul 19, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
not happy to see him go . . .
there’s not enough players that give the effort Brockman gave and I think he hadn’t nearly reached his potential yet. I believe in 2-3 years he’ll be a regular starter.
Ba-da
To be fair, I don't think Jackson was given much opportunity to reach whatever his ceiling is.
His career MPG was only 7:00, according to Yahoo. Guy didn’t have much time to do anything other than run up and down a few times.
WTF
is Darnell Jackson?
Jon Brockman is going to continue to surprise people in this league. I wish him the best. He provided a lot of highlights and energy last season. I wish all of our players had a little more Jon Brockman in them.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jul 19, 2010 2:58 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I dont want no Jon Brockman in me....
Because that would really, really hurt
Good luck!
Happy for him.
I hope that means that he is in this league to stay, I will miss him here, but that won’t make to root for Bucks. Well, may be only a little bit. In the minutes when Brockman will play.
Just root for Brockman.
When Brockness gets a rebound or a bucket, cheer. When any of his teammates get a rebound or a bucket, either boo or give them the silent treatment for taking R&Bs away from the Monster.
If he goes to Milwaukee
They might name a beer after Brockman. Milwaukee’s Finest?
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
Definitely a STOUT.
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
by Balky Needs on Jul 19, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Jackson to OKC?
He was born there, it must count for something.
Kings get- Kyle Weaver
OKC gets- Darnell Jackson (future 2nd rd pick)?
KINGS WILL BE 10-11 CHAMPIONS
Heres a nice article on Darnell Jackson (Disclaimer: Its from Hoopsworld)
"Morrison beats Casspi 1 on 1". - MarcusC
I think we are overrating Brockman
He’s an okay, but very one-dimensional player. So is Darnell Jackson. Jackson was a four-year player at Kansas and is built like Reggie Evans. He’s a little raw, but he wouldn’t be playing much this year anyway. In exchange for swapping Brockman for a guy with a non-guaranteed contract that also wouldn’t play much, we get a 2nd-round pick. Seems fair to me. I think Delfino was shooting a bit too high in the first place.
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
it was shooting too high
but eh I guess it’s nice to dream and hope
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by wallywagon11 on Jul 19, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
now if someone is upset we didn't get Delfino or CDR ...
then I can’t help them
Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed
by wallywagon11 on Jul 19, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
But we used the 38th pick on Brockman.
If Milwaukee continues to get in the playoffs (which they probably will), it automatically makes sure that the 2nd round pick we get from them is lower than 38th.
Is Darnell Jackson worth trading down for?
This.
This really
wasn’t a “trade”. Brockman was looking for more money than the Kings were willing to pay an end of the bench guy. So, chances are, Brockman was gone anyway…so the Kings got a second round pick out of it – something they wouldn’t have got if/when Brock walked.
by ARoyalPain on Jul 19, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
You do also realize, elfboy, that Nessie was the 6th big in the rotation.
The NBA is a league where if you have 4 quality bigs, and the Kings definitely do, that’s a luxury. The Kings have 5 potential quality bigs.
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Pick is a pick.
And when it comes from the nowhere it is a total bless. For instance, 58th pick can sometimes bring you Derrick Caracter.
Good for Jon
He would not have played any minutes and deserves better. Good to see things were done that are good for him. The one thing I will say for Petrie is that he does right by his players.
He sent Sergio to the perfect situation under Dantoni, Martin to a former coach who he played well for, and now Brockman to somewhere that he is likely to get more play time.
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by MustangMBS on Jul 19, 2010 3:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
So all that talk about re-signing Jon
Was a lock was all just a SMOKESCREEN to get more $ from the Bucks.
by StevenG on Jul 19, 2010 3:50 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
just saw on SI.com posted July 16
but never saw it on here
You know the Maloofs
Occasionally they’ll be quirky…
by furious.d on Jul 19, 2010 6:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
This sucks
This trade does absolutely nothing for us as far as I can see. When you look at the “minor” deals that get done by Sam Presti all the time this just seems like such a yawner. I understand the plan. I am all for it but you mean to tell me there isn’t 1 deal or player out there that actually helps this team & follows the plan? Come on.
The Dalembert trade was perfect at the time imo. Now Petrie has to pull something out to get us a shooter. Wake me up when it happens.
I love beating dead horses.
by allbenji's on Jul 19, 2010 5:51 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
This is not a trade
as much as it is a gesture by the Kings org to Brockman.
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by edm7 on Jul 19, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Still gotta 2nd rounder. Could turn into a similar type player as Brockman later on, or another role-player.
Pretty good deal.
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Definitely
Let’s not forget that the Kings DID extend the qualifier offer to Brockman and he chose not to take it. This is a good deal for both parties. Don’t know why some don’t see it as such
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wasn't I just talking with you yesterday about whether I would be happy for Brockman if he got a contract elsewhere?
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by wallywagon11 on Jul 19, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
You and I were talking about it
I said I want him for one more year, then compared him to Fundy.
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by AnotherStupidSN on Jul 19, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
It is a good deal for all parties
I’m just disappointed with the deal as a whole if that makes sense.
I love beating dead horses.
by allbenji's on Jul 19, 2010 8:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
With.
Because Mancakes gave us so much heart and passion on the floor — he just made it so easy to fall in love with the new direction Kings. And he symbolized what we wanted for this team — to get a little respect and to give a whole lot of hurt.
This.
by elfboy_ on Jul 19, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great guy and all the nick name fun time aside but,
I bet even Jon is surprised that his 2nd pro contract isn’t coming from Europe.
Seriously.
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
i agree
"And Solskjaer has won it!"
by 'tough as nails' spence on Jul 20, 2010 3:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm surprised at how little respect Brockman gets here
He’s going to carve out a nice career as a solid role player, and go far beyond the burn he got with us. He’s made a career of proving the naysayers wrong, and he’s going to do it again.
Brockman knows he’s better than an end of bench guy, and he also knows he’s an NBA player and will be for a long time.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
I don't think anyone is showing little respect for him
Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed
by wallywagon11 on Jul 19, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Read the comment above mine for starters.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Jul 19, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
ah
Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed
by wallywagon11 on Jul 19, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Just one mans opinion; not dogging him.
You obviously value him higher than I do.
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
by Balky Needs on Jul 20, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
yea it sounds like everyones got a mancrush on mancakes
not that I blame them or anything…
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"He's made a career if this"
A little premature aren’t we. More like, “he’s made a back up role on one of the worst teams in the NBA into more than a qualifying offer out of it”.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jul 19, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
And by "this" I mean "proving his naysayers wrong"
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jul 19, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
On a per minute basis
He’s one of the best rebounders in pro basketball. He also doesn’t turn the ball over. He’s a scrapper and fighter and energy guy who does the little things that don’t show up in the box score.
He was also a major part of the 35-point comeback win over the Bulls. I’d call that a pretty nice accomplishment.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
I am missing something
Or the Kings now MUST spend ~3 million more on the payroll this year – just to make it to the minimal salary, 75% from the cap (otherwise they just will have to divide them between currently signed players)?
3 million is not a “some guy from the summer league” salary. Solid and proven guard can be contracted with only this budget.
Oh, the future looks so bright.
Did you count Whiteside?
Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed
by wallywagon11 on Jul 20, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
The team salary is calculated at the end of the season.
The Kings can be $20M under the cap, and trade for some players that bring them to $1 over the min at the trade deadline in February.
But, all teams are required to carry 13 players (12 active and one inactive). The active list may drop to 11 for up to 2 weeks. And, any players sent to the D-League are placed on the inactive list.
So, head count is more important than the team salary prior to the end of the season.
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off topic but...
KINGS please pick up jeremy lin!!!!!
ivy league?
Petrie likes this.
"And Solskjaer has won it!"
by 'tough as nails' spence on Jul 20, 2010 3:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes
It will be a sad day when he leaves. He certainly was a fan favorite, and good things generally happened when he played, particularly early in the season.
But Brockman will probably be going to a better situation with more PT for a contender, so it’s a good move for him.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
Yes, better situation, in more ways than one.
A player involved in a s&t must be given a 3 yr contract minimum. And, even tho the last 2 years do not have to be guaranteed, it would give Brockman good trade value should things not work out with the Bucks.
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