The Asinine Offseason Thread - Part Deux
by vfettke on Jul 7, 2010 9:41 PM PDT
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Have I taught you nothing Sactown Royalty? There's been like 4 posts in the past week about how we should trade for Courtney Lee. Seriously? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have him in a Kings uni but we don't need so many fan posts dedicated to a third stringer who doesn't actually play for us, do we? And Gerald Green? You're kidding right? So when it comes to ideas you have for the Kings' front office this offseason, please feel free to post it here. Ziller hardly does any work around here anymore anyway, I hate for his time to be wasted closing crappy posts.
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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Here's an asinine idea -- the Kings do nothing!
I vote we just keep our current roster of players, sign some VSL guys to fill out the roster minimum of players, and that’s all. We play out the season, see how we perform, identify our weaknesses and holes, and then fortify them in next year’s draft. This must sound asinine but I don’t wanna trade away any of our current players because we haven’t even given them a chance to show their (new) stuff. At most we sign some mediocre SG like a Morrow or Reddick or such. No trades!
Let us usher in the era of Reke DMC!
by Shizzo on Jul 7, 2010 10:27 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
I like the thought of giving Cisco a chance at the 2, especially considering that none of the FA 2’s are really that exciting.
I would have no problem trading Cisco and a future 2nd rounder
but those would be my only trade pieces
by The Guy on the Couch on Jul 8, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Why trade Cisco?
You know there is a league minimum salary right? I mean I’m not opposed to trading Cisco for a better player but who is going to give up a better player for Cisco?
I love beating dead horses.
Well they have to sign somebody....
to get to the minimum level.
Probably someone cheap and unexciting though. Or maybe the current market will drive Brockman’s price up.
Minimum is 12 guys right?
So signing Cousins, Whiteside and re-signing Brockman should do the trick there
#vfettkefordraft
Minimum roster is 13
Twelve on the active roster and one on the inactive roster. Although the league pays a fine to the players union if the league wide average drops below 14.
This is from Coon’s FAQ #66
While individual teams are only required to carry 13 players (12 active and one inactive), the NBA also guarantees a league-wide average of at least 14 players per team. The league is surcharged if they do not meet this obligation.
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Just give Brockman all our extra money for one year.
Cause he’s the MAN! Haha.
by caseycheesecake on Jul 8, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I like Morrow
as a backup
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 8, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I say we go for Gerald Green
Slam Dunk champion, baby!!!!
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Sign Gerald Green and Nate Robinson
Trade Tyreke for Jason Richardson, Samuel Dalembert and Donte for Vince Carter, then add Dwight somehow and we’re set!
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by Aykis16 on Jul 7, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
is Catino Mobley still available?
by The Guy on the Couch on Jul 8, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think he still has the heart for it.
Maybe we can really go back in time and go after Bob Sura.
This.
What the heck happened to that guy?
Didn’t Cuttino go to Russia or something?
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Oh yeah...
That heart condition. Wow, can’t believe I forgot that. Best of luck to him.
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stay patient in the offseason
Near the trade deadline find a team like atlanta who will be struggling to keep up with the powers in the east and in desperation look for a trade, just to make some sort of a power play. Trade Landry (now an inexpensive, expendable big), for Crawford, a perfect compliment to tyreke (speed, capable defender, good shooter, great ballhandler)
plus
maybe atlanta will realize they made an idiotic decision and try to shed some cap space for next summer. We may be able to get away for a dalambert trade, but either way, crawford would be a great pickup IMO
While I'm not as high on Crawford as you (poor shot selection, IMO)...
I totally agree with your sentiment, stay pat and trade Landry for something useful before we lose him and get nothing in return.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 8, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Trade
Indiana Pacers Receive:
Beno Udrih
Carl Landry
Sacramento Kings Receive:
Dahntay Jones
Paul George
Why the Pacers do it: They desperately need a PG, and Beno is a servicable PG. Landry adds value to the trade as a replacement if they find a home for Troy Murphy.
Why the Kings do it: Neither contracts are big contracts (Jones- 4 years, 2.5 mil) while George is a shooter who can defend and play the 2 next to Tyreke.
Tyreke Evans for MVP!
by sac-townz finest on Jul 8, 2010 3:43 AM PDT reply actions
Defend and Paul George have yet to meet eachother.
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Landry is worth more than that.
Whiteside after this year maybe, but CLandry needs to help those PF’s get some toughness.
If Ziegler blows a save... I'll flag his next post.
No kidding
And I wouldn’t be suprised if we find out at some point that Indiana inquired about Beno.
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by lietothegirls on Jul 8, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Have to whole heartedly disagree with you
George has all the tools to be special. Been watching the Pacers summer league games, and though his stats don’t blow you away, it’s very easy to see his potential on the floor. I’d love to acquire him for sure, and this is an amazingly fair trade IMO.
Let us usher in the era of Reke DMC!
He might eventually be better than Beno.
But watching the games last year, Beno had a remarkably steadying effect on our young team, played extremely well, and showed that he could play alongside Tyreke.
Unless George is an immediate upgrade in talent, I don’t see us giving up Beno and Landry, who is extremely skilled, for a project guard and a journeyman.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 8, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a terrible trade sorry
Beno & Landry were our 2nd & 3rd best players last season. Trade our one of our only 2 PGs for 2 more small forward/wing types?
I love beating dead horses.
We finally get a power forward who can score
and for some reason everyone wants to dump him. Wh? So we don’t hurt some player’s development? Please. Let’s focus on the team’s development for a change.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
Gerald Green is the shit though?
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Trade
New Jersey Nets receive:
Jason Thompson
Beno Udrih
Kings receive:
Devin Harris
Future pick
Why the nets do it: They’ve wanted to trade Harris quite some time. Being able to get players like Udrih and Thompson for a total of what they pay Harris is a bargain. Also, Thompson could come in and perhaps play alongside Lopez and Williams moving Humphries to the bench.
Why the kings do it:They get an explosive player in Harris to compliment Tyreke very well. They need a playmaker/scorer at the guard and Harris can definitely produce for them.
You aren't 12.
You used a colon correctly. You used a ’ in “They’ve”. You used the word “well” instead of “good”. You didn’t post a picture of boobs.
by caseycheesecake on Jul 8, 2010 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Plausible? Yes. Advantageous? No.
I thought we wanted to add to our backcourt. Taking away Beno to get Harris AND getting rid of JT in the process is bad. JT is the only non-rookie big man we have that is guaranteed to be here next year. Who knows if we will re-sign Sammy or Carl? Also, the value of New Jersey’s picks are going to be very poor in the upcoming seasons.
by caseycheesecake on Jul 8, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
right
but Thompson would bolster their frontcourt. Lopez has yet to play with a Pf half as skilled as Thompson. Beno would come in and distribute the ball well, and bust his ass every game just as he has for us so far. I think it could happen. Can they get better? Of course. But there are times in the NBA when the Gm decides"Hey, we need to move on and go another direction."
Didn't the Nets
Draft a PF who is supposed to be “highly skilled” at some point? This trade does nothing for us at all I would say.
I'm not sure I'd want to trade anyone right now
Everyone kind of fits to me right now. We don’t have any crazy contracts or sour players. We have a ton of cap space. We need to add not subtract.
Don’t get me wrong if Indy comes calling with a Granger for Beno & Donte trade I’d be all for it but that’s not going to happen. If we want to get a good player use our cap space & draft picks to get it done.
I love beating dead horses.
One more thing
We have a logjam in the frontcourt so I say just let it sort itself out & look to make trades at the deadline.
I love beating dead horses.
I'd hate this trade.
Harris is fragile and a poor outside shooter.
Thompson is a SOLID rotational big. We need a complement to Tyreke, not someone who will take the ball out of his hands.
I’m pulling for Morrow. I also have to say that I am intrigued by the thought of taking a flier on Shaun Livingston for the right price – cheap.
by Hoops Mike on Jul 8, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for this...
I’m pulling for Morrow. I also have to say that I am intrigued by the thought of taking a flier on Shaun Livingston for the right price – cheap.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 8, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I keep hearing about
“We can’t get this or that player because he takes the ball out of Tyreke’s hand” but isn’t that what Beno did at times? It seemed to work pretty well. I think whoever we put next to Reke has to have some ballhandling & point gaurd skills. I’m not saying it’s Harris because i don’t know enough about him.
Wade is a ball dominant gaurd but he won a championship with 2 pure points in J-Will & Gary Payton.
I think we just need a good ballhandling gaurd, good distibuter, & good shooter. Really we just need a stonger more athletic Beno to ddefend better & take advantage of the mismatch.
Someone posted a fanshot about Mo Williams possibly being on the block. At the time I blasted the idea of aquiring him. Mainly because he makes a lot more than Beno & does some of the same things. At the time we really needed a big man & the focus should have been on using our space to fill that void.
Fast forward to now we have a crazy frontcourt & 2 small forwards with a ton of potential who are making strides. So what else are we going to use our space for? If we could get Mo Willams on a salary dump I say go for it
I love beating dead horses.
Those are some big-ass nipples
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by CaliforniaJag on Jul 9, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
ideas
maybe the kings can do a sign and trade with golden state for anthony morrow? Don’t know as to how they’d go about it just an idea.
um
Garcia for Shane Battier at the trade deadline
Y Hou does it: To get some more offensive if they are in the playoff hunt
Y Sac does it: Expiring contract, defense & leadership. Maybe he can add some words to DMC’s vocabulary. lol jk. REKE DMC !!!
that is epicly asinine
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by wallywagon11 on Jul 8, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
lol ik
but this trade should only happen if Garcia disappoints in the first half of the season
That would be doubley asinine
Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed
by wallywagon11 on Jul 8, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
You think Garcia is more of an asset or a better player than Battier?
Why would Houston even entertain this idea?
Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed
by wallywagon11 on Jul 8, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
That makes it even more asinine!
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
i would like
to hear that bell sound effect in arco
You'll get cow bell and you'll like it.
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
by Balky Needs on Jul 8, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Which reminds me...
the slogan “Crazy Cowpoke Passion” has to go…I am the only one who cant’ stand that image of “cow-town”?
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 8, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
That was weird...it didn't post anything in the body
Which reminds me…(cont)
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 8, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Petrie said the Kings are looking to get involve in a 3 team deal, because we need to add players
The CBA requires that the Kings have at least 13 players on the roster. So, we need to take back more players than we’re trading away. We’re only at 11, now.
He wants to use the cap space to pick up talent, in a deal where two teams can’t trade because salaries don’t match and they’re over the cap. So, we need to look at teams over the cap or in Lux Tax area to find talent. Undrafted players would be the final option.
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You are asking way too much from the asinine trade thread
Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed
by wallywagon11 on Jul 8, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Here are a few players from such teams. Information from Shamsports
Atlanta Hawks
Marvin Williams
$7,500,000 – $8,287,500 – $7,500,000 (Early termination)
Charlotte Bobcats (highly doubt it)
Tyson Chandler
$12,600,000
Nazr Mohammad
$6,883,800
DeSagana Diop
$6,478,600 – $6,925,400 – $7,372,200 (player option)
Denver Nuggets
J.R. Smith
$6,694,851
Keyon Martin
$16,545,454
Milwakee BucksMichael Redd
$18,300,000
New Orleans Hornets
Peja
$14,256,000
Emeka Okafor
$11,795,000 – $12,792,500 – $13,790,000 – $14,787,500 (early terimation)
James Posey
$6,478,600 – $6,925,400 [My money would be on Posey]
Morris Peterson
$6,200,000
Darius Songaila
$4,818,000
Orlando Magic
Marcin Gortat
$6,322,320 – $6,790,640 – $7,258,960 – $7,727,280 (early terimination)
Brandon Bass
$4,000,000 – $4,000,000 – $4,000,000
Pietrus
$5,300,000 – $5,300,000 (player option)
Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed
by wallywagon11 on Jul 8, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
For goodness sakes
BOLD the “Orlando Magic”…jeez…
by caseycheesecake on Jul 8, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously though?
None of those players appeal to me.
by caseycheesecake on Jul 8, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not always about the player being appealing
but about possible draft picks that can come along with it.
Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed
by wallywagon11 on Jul 8, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be okay with...
Posey or Pietrus
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 8, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd be alright with Pietrus as well.
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Yeah I guess… and those would be tradeable.
by caseycheesecake on Jul 8, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I like NOH as a trade partner
They are $2M over the Lux Tax in a small market. And, that’s without their 1st round pick and with 10 players under contract.
Here’s my trade: Posey & Collison for a 2nd round pick. Saves them $8M + probably another $4-6M in lux tax money. Let’s them fill the roster and stay under the Lux Tax
Kings get a very good PG and a vet SF. Posey does have two years on his contract at a litttle over $6.7M per year average. But, he’d be a valuable mentor for Omri & Donte and his salary comes off the books before any of the rookie contracts end and they need to be resigned.
And, did I mention that we get a very good PG.
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This is the type of trade that makes sense
That would be putting the Kings’ available cap space to good use, IMO.
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
Yeah, very true...
but would NOH really go for it?
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 8, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
To get under the cap, Clear of a bad salary..they might want something cheap back though. Is there a way to resign Udoka to same contract, then throw him in with the 2nd rounder?
Judgment day is coming!
Free Agents can't be trade right away.
This is from Coon’s FAQ #82,
Generally, a player cannot be traded until three months after signing a contract or December 15th of that season, whichever is later.
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The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
If they do the trade it will be because they want the cap space.
If they really want Udoka, he’s an UFA and they can sign him for the vet min anyway. We could use a highly restricted 2nd round pick. That’s all that is needed for a trade.
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money money money
But I don’t know . . . .
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by lietothegirls on Jul 8, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends on a couple of factors
How desperate are they to get under the cap, and could they receive better offers? I can’t imagine they want to deal Collison, but that might be their price to pay to substantially slash their salaries.
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
While Collison is a valuable player, he is just a backup
and getting $12-14M in savings for his contract sounds like a pretty good deal for a 21st pick in the draft. The savings are just this year, the also save $7M next year on Posey’s contract.
I think they can find a pretty good backup PG for that kind of money. In fact, the Kings would probably be the team that has to think about it the most. Collison would more than likely have to be the starting PG to make that kind of expenditure woth while.
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Not asinine..find a better place to post
Just messing with you, good idea and would be a great way to take advantage of our cap space. Would love to have DC.
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I also like Memphis as a trade partner
After resigning Gay, Memphis is over the salary cap with 11 players under contract. And, they still need to sign Henry and Vasquez.
So, they might be willing to trade Conley and they for sure won’t match an offer for Brewer. Conley is owed about $5M and we could probably get Brewer for much less.
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good point
Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed
This is good too...
I still like Brewer and Conley would be a capable 3rd PG
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by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 8, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I forgot the name of the thread...
I couldn’t figure out why asinine was being used so much…haha
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Here's a question...
Why are there so many trade scenarios involving Carl Landry? Let’s look at this dude’s stats:
37 min, 18 ppg, 6.5 reb, .52 fg%, .74 ft%
Compare them to one Rudy (82 million) Gay:
39 min, 19.6 ppg, 5.9 reb, .46 fg%, .75 ft%
Rudy was overpaid, but a LOT of people around here wanted that guy for our squad. Landry pulls down brilliant stats and is clearly a tough guy and decent defender. Sure he should rebound better, but now we’ve got three great rebounding centers, on good rebounding PF, and solid rebounders at the SF and G position (Tyreke). I don’t think us Sacramentans are giving this guy enough credit. He’s only 27. I think that if he has a similar season next year, we should pay him! And at the very least, we don’t give him away for a backup shooting guard!
by Grantnapeareatskittens on Jul 8, 2010 8:22 PM PDT reply actions
You answered your own question
by mentioning Gay’s contract. Lando’s a free agent next summer.
I think the most overpaid guys in the league are borderline all-stars like Carl. Look at Gay, Ben Gordon, Iguadala, Lewis. . . etc.
Landry will leave to someone that pays him 75 mil next year.
Kings wont sign him because they will that they are over paying.
No way Landry gets that much
He’s not a good enough rebounder, shoot blocker or defender. Best guess is that he gets around $9M. Gooden got $8M per, Outlaw got $7M per and Haywood got about $9M per, so based on his potential I’d say Carl should be in around the top of that scale.
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The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy
Agree with HighTops
Landry squarely fits in the Brendan Haywood/Drew Gooden tier. David Lee and Rudy Gay are all-stars; Landry is a very solid player.
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by CaliforniaJag on Jul 9, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
You're absolutely right
But that doesn’t mean you trade the guy for spare parts. He is a borderline star, if you’re trading him, you better get a borderline star in return, or at least some very high draft picks. The trades I’ve seen have been extremely lopsided. We are under the cap, and we are loaded with big men. These are both positions of strength. Let’s not be in a hurry to sacrifice either, just because they’re weapons in our arsenal. The key is PATIENCE. If, partway through the season, Atlanta is looking to part ways with Josh Smith, then you’ll be glad you have a productive, low-paid player like Mandry to dangle in front of them.
by Grantnapeareatskittens on Jul 8, 2010 8:37 PM PDT reply actions
oopsie
meant as a reply… I’m dum.
by Grantnapeareatskittens on Jul 8, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Here it is
Miami gets:
2nd round pick, brockman, cash
Kings get:
LBJ, Bosh and Wade the future picks.
I would say that is fair…
But why would we wanna take on all that salary back?
I want us to go after some real superstars in FA.
This.
I see why the heat would do this but the kings
and I just got a picture with Brockman so i really hope he is around for a little while longer
Still waiting for the Euler of basketball to play for the Kings
Jason Thompson for
Michael Beasley. Miami gets some more cap room and Kings get a talent upgrade. JT can play center some for the Heat.
Plus we could have kept JT.
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JT>Beasley
On and off the court
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by Surprise Team on Jul 9, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Dallas | Minnesota | Sacramento
Dallas trades: Stevenson, Carrolll, Barea, 2011 first, Rights to Dominic James, and rights to Nick Calathes. 3 million cash
Dallas receives: Al Jefferson
Minnesota trades: Al Jefferson
Minnesota receives: TPE, Carroll, 2011 first, Rights to Dominic James, conditional 2nd round pick, 3 million cash
Kings deal: TPE, conditional 2nd round pick
Kings receive: DeShawn Stevenson, JJ Barea, Rights to Nick Calathes
Mavs get Al Jeff without giving up Dampier.
Wolves get cap relief for Al Jeff and add a couple SG’s to their roster
Kings fill out their roster Stevenson and Barea and pick up the rights to Calathes who could be an interesting fit in the backcourt next to Tyreke after next season.
New roster:
C: Dalembert, Cousins, Whiteside
PF: Landry, Thompson, Brockman
SF: Greene, Casspi
SG: Garcia, Stevenson, Sloan
PG: Evans, Udrih, Barea
isn't Barea
an unrestricted free agent?
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Go Kings!
Don't think so. He appears under contract at
Sham, RGM and ESPN. Pretty sure he’s under contract and becomes a UFA this next off-season.
Pacers - Wolves - Kings
Pacers deal: Mike Dunleavy Jr., TJ Ford, Brandon Rush, 2011 top 10 protected 1st, 3 million cash
Pacers receive: Al Jefferson, Ramon Sessions
Wolves deal: Al Jefferson, Ramon Sessions, 3 million cash
Wolves receive: TJ Ford, Brand Rush, 2011 top 10 protected 1st and TPE, conditional 2nd
Kings deal: TPE, conditional 2nd
Kings receive: Mike Dunleavy Jr., 6 million cash
Pacers add a post presence next to Granger while opening up wing minutes for their youngin’s George and Stephenson. They also add a veteran PG on a meager deal.
Wolves save cap space now, get a TPE and solid return for Al Jeff. Rush should help on the perimeter and Ford can replace Sessions’ role for a season until Rubio gets back and gets the extra years off the Wolves cap.
Kings get a veteran wing play that can shoot and dribble and be an extra play-maker on the roster. His contract expires so it gives the Kings added flexibility to boot. The cash makes Dunleavy’s contract worth HALF of it’s actual value to the Kings.
Kings - Cavs - Wizards
Wizards trade: Gilbert Arenas, Nick Young, JaVale McGee
Wizards receive: Delonte West, Leon Powe, TPE
Cavs deal: Mo Williams, Delonte West, Leon Power, Daniel Gibson
Cavs receive: Gilbert Arenas, Nick Young, JaVale McGee
Kings deal: TPE, 2nd round pick
Kings receive: Mo Williams
Why for the Wizards – They move Gilbert for instant cap relief at the cost of a couple B level prospects
Why for the Cavs – They add a dynamic backcourt player and preserve their TPE for Jefferson while getting a couple tradeable assets to help reposition themselves.
Why for the Kings – They get a dynamic PG that can be a perfect complement to Evans, shoot the 3 ball and be a veteran leader as we ascend our way up the standings in the West.
no.
One)I don’t see Dan Gilbert taking on Arenas’ contract when he’s always injured. Two)I don’t see the deal being made simply due to the fact that the wizards are receiving Delonte West and Leon Powe for scorers like Arenas and Young. 3)This is arguably the most asinine trade I’ve seen,and believe me, I’ve submitted quite a few terrible ones myself.
You are still the champ
So don’t you worry.
How about
Kings trade:
Landry
Beno
Nuggets trade:
J.R. Smith
Ty Lawson
Nuggets need a post scorer and the Kings could use a young outside shooter. Asinine Right. Plus, Beno helps Denver now and Lawson could be his replacment and the 6th man we have not had since B Jax.
Take Beno out and insert Afflalo in for Smith
And I’d consider that. I like Lawson A LOT. And I like Afflalo even more. I think I’d rather deal Thompson in this kind of deal, but not opposed to moving Landry for that kind of return.
I don’t think Denver wants Beno as a back-up.
Kings - Bobcats - T-Wolves
Kings deal: TPE+2011 2nd round pick
Kings receive: DJ Augustin, Gerald Henderson, and Reggie Evans
Bobcats trade: Reggie Evans, DJ Augustin, Gerald Henderson, 2011 1st round pick(top 10 protected), 2011 2nd round pick
Bobcats receive: Al Jefferson
Wolves deal: Al Jefferson
Wolves receive: TPE, 2011 1st round pick(top 10 protected), 2011 2nd round pick
Why for the Bobcats: They land Jefferson
Why for the Kings: Fill out their roster
Why for the Wolves: They get their TPE and picks they’re looking for in return for Jefferson
Kings new roster:
C: Dalembert, Cousins, Whiteside
PF: Landry, Thompson, Brockman
SF: Greene, Casspi
SG: Evans, Garcia, Henderson
PG: Udrih, Augustin, Sloan
Chris Paul on the block???
Yes please. I think we might have the ability to pull this off…but we’d have to offer up a pretty sweet package. I think I’d part with anyone, anything outside of Evans and Cousins.
My thoughts are this:
Hornets give: Paul, Okafor, Wright
Kings give: Dalembert, Casspi, Landry/Thompson, TPE for Paul(like a 15 million TPE) and a 2011 top 3 protected pick that goes unprotected in 2012. And a 2013 1st round pick.
Kings get substantially better in the backcourt and make themselves relevant immediately.
Hornets shed a ton of current and long term money while picking up a couple nice assets in Casspi and Landry/Thompson. Dalembert gives them a stopgap fix at center next year and the 2 picks look to be at least fairly solid in the 12-25 range in 2011 and who even knows in 2013.
Kings new roster:
C: Okafor, Cousins
PF: Thompson, Whiteside, Brockman
SF: Greene, Wright
SG: Evans, Garcia,
PG: Paul, Udirh, Sloan
Hornets:
C; Dalembert, Brackins
PF: West, Landry, Songaila
SF: Casspi, Peja, Pondexter
SG: Thornton, Posey
PG: Collison
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