Caught Speeding? Get to the Bench
by Tom Ziller on Aug 1, 2010 6:35 AM PDT
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PrintAilene Voisin of the Sacramento Bee weighed in on Tyreke Evans' speeding reel. I could probably just leave the post there, forgot to add a link and you all could surmise the rest. Voisin has never been charitable to Evans, and this is the moment in which Evans deserves less charity than ever.
Ergo, Ailene's guns be blastin'.
I'm not going to sit here and disagree with Voisin about the gravity of Evans' mistake. It was a bad one. Worthy of more than community service, a class and loose probation -- he should lose his license for a while, I believe. It was a careless decision to blast off like he was driving a DeLorean, to put all those folks on the road and himself in harm's way.
It was an awful way to be.
But there's a certain separation between mistakes made in life and ability to do a job. That's where Voisin loses me: I get the impression that she's arguing for Evans to have a smaller role on the team because of this speeding incident.
[T]his latest lapse in judgment, occurring less than three years after he drove an SUV involved in a fatal drive-by shooting – he was not charged – suggests a lingering lack of maturity at best and a troubling pattern of irresponsible, perhaps even rebellious behavior at worst.
... and ...
PAUL WESTPHAL: Uh, Tyreke, we have some bad news.
TYREKE EVANS: Yeah, coach?
WESTPHAL: We're no longer allowing you to be the best player on the team.
EVANS: <pause> What?
WESTPHAL: We feel that after your speeding incident you're just not ready to lead a team. So Beno is the best player on the team now.
EVANS: <pause> What?
WESTPHAL: We thought about it, and your speeding incident showed a real lack of maturity, and we can't have that in our best player. So Beno is officially the best player now. We'll be running the 1-4 flat for him at the end of games now.
EVANS: But coach ...
WESTPHAL: Sorry Tyreke, our decision is final. Oh, also, you also have to stop wearing your diamond earrings. You're no longer good enough to sparkle a ridiculous amount. Only the best players can get away that without looking like a fool.
EVANS: But I averaged 20-5-5 and got a jumper this summer!
WESTPHAL: Sorry. Getting in trouble with the police and being a high-profile professional athlete just don't mix. You'll understand someday when you're older.
It's remarkably naked, what Voisin's doing here. She often advocates for the end of the Evans-dominated team on the court. Really, she never misses an opportunity to point out that Evans is more scorer than passer -- even in the Spencer Hawes trade column she found a way to rip Tyreke to High Heavens! So Evans has a bad brush with the law (and possibly death), and so he's bad at basketball, or something. It's exhausting to try to connect Voisin's dots.
I will note, though, Voisin's interestingly different reaction to the DUI of then-Kings coach Eric Musselman. Musselman, you'll remember, got nailed for a DUI in downtown Sacramento during his first preseason with the Kings. After the press conference in which Muss read a prepared statement to media, with his players standing behind him, Voisin penned this column.
Key takeaways:
Yet what makes this entire Musselman ordeal particularly compelling, in an ironic sort of way, is that the messenger -- the Kings' coach who messed up -- isn't who people think he is. He isn't a member of the group. He drinks so infrequently, in fact, that he can count the number of beers he consumes per month.
Speaking in a soft, somber tone throughout the 30-minute conversation, and losing his composure only briefly, he offered no excuses. He never attributed the incident to bad luck or lousy timing. He didn't rip the cops for failing to cut him a break, you know, because of who he is. He winced aloud but never whined. Rather, he acknowledged his poor judgment and assumed responsibility for his behavior, reciting Friday's developments as if he were reading from one of his infamous lists [...]
What makes Musselman's DUI compelling and makes Evans' speeding incident "suggest a lingering lack of maturity at best and a troubling pattern of irresponsible, perhaps even rebellious behavior at worst"?
Evans offered no excuses. He admitted he acted stupidly, and he vowed to not drive like that again. He actually offered no excuses. Musselman, meanwhile, actually made excuses for himself! He told Voisin he never drinks and went through stories about how he doesn't allow alcohol in his house.
Evans basically said, "I f*cked up, and I'm sorry, and it won't happen again." Musselman basically said, "I f*cked up, and I'm sorry, but don't worry I never drink, I'm not even sure how this happened."
Yet Musselman's incident is "compelling" while Evans is on a path to tragedy and bad basketball. I don't get it.
I supposed Evans could have made his citation compelling if he'd had a tearful press conference followed by a 30-minute exclusive interview with Voisin. Maybe he should also put up motivational signs in the practice facility. Columnists seem to like that.
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When you add in the superfluous rip on Lamont Peterson, it all just adds up to personal bias getting in the way of basic reason. Evans doesn't talk to Voisin. Peterson and Doc don't bow at Voisin's feet. Even Westphal is involved -- he's Evans' top advocate, and he doesn't kiss Voisin's ass like Musselman and even Theus did. The above comparison of the Muss and Evans reactions isn't meant to make fun of Musselman, just to show how easily Voisin has been swayed by her personal feelings.
Voisin is becoming too blinded by her dislike of Evans to report on him while making any semblance of sense. She's losing touch with reality, and Kings fans who read The Bee looking for actual insight and thoughtful commentary are the losers.
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The Voisin Syndrome
and to all newspaper people is that they think they need to make a serious point or change the world with each story. Tired of it. Just like the idiots shouting on ESPN. Every story does not mean the world is falling down. I drive 50 every day and there are at least 5 of these types of drives doing something every day. That is why me and my coworkers call driving the commute to and from work the “cannonball run”
The only parallels I see between the incident and basketball
Is that a basketball player who was being young and stupid was caught speeding and happened to get caught. Most likely, Evans will get a short suspension for this along with the legal obligations he has earned himself. None of this makes him any less a basketball player or talent.
Evans doesn’t strike me as head case player who is a risk to future issues like this one. I believe he learned his lesson and as long as he isn’t a repeat offender, an article like this has no merit. You can write about how foolish his decision was, but to make that the reason why he shouldn’t be allowed to continue to rise to stardom is illogical and sensationalistic reporting meant to ignite fires of malcontent among the fan base and therefore should be taken with two tons of salt.
"Smelling the cork from an open bottle of wine is like smelling a woman's ass before you make love to her"
Miles from the novel "Sideways"
by A Night At The Arco on Aug 1, 2010 7:28 AM PDT reply actions
OK
From the very beginning of this incident, I was advocating that we not underplay the gravity of what Evans had done. Don’t poo-poo it, don’t blame the cops. He made a big mistake, and was fortunate that something worse did not happen. That said -
He is a young guy that made a young mistake, and lived to tell the tale. He has an infrastructure around him that came down on him with both heels, the Kings have let him know that they were disappointed with this, and the law has had their say in the matter, applying discipline within the confines of the nature of the offense.
There once was a time that you had to read the comments section at Sacbee.com to find the hyperbole. Sadly, it has apparently moved north and entered the actual articles.
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by section214 on Aug 1, 2010 7:54 AM PDT reply actions 8 recs
It is not enough for Aileen to spew her venom...
Slow down. Let Evans earn the right to lead. And for now, take away the keys.
Now she thinks he can tell the Maloofs how to run their team and advise Coach Westphal who he should select to run his team.
Question: Can the Kings franchise revoke the privilege of Aileen Voison using her press pass to gain entry to Sacramento Kings related events, including press conferences, basketball games, and post-game interviews, etc.?
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
They can, but they won't
It would be a really bad public relations move for them to do that.
What they can (and should) do is grant more access to guys like Ziller and Zach Harper. This would enable the Kings to take greater advantage of coverage via social media, and it would create a conduit between team and fan that is clear of all Aileen’s crap.
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by section214 on Aug 1, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good point
I know you’re right….I just can’t stand her.
"I have talent that's there, but I just have the mentality right now that I just want to be the greatest. And I don't think that any other player has that right now." -DeMarcus Cousins
by Noble_Bloodlines on Aug 1, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
There is the potential for a PR fallout, although it is would not preclude entry to other SacBee staff who the Kings could still allow.
I agree with you about granting Tom Ziller more access. He has certainly earned his credibility. I haven’t followed Zach Harper.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
You should read Zach. He's a great writer himself.
Add Cowbell Kingdom to your bookmarks. He won’t post as much in the summer, but during the season he has some good stuff.
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by Aykis16 on Aug 1, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
If the Kings did ban her from much access with the Kings,
wouldn’t that force the Bee to either put a new person in her place or fire her?
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Aug 1, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
And after that
Maybe the Bee will let the Kings appoint the new columnist, right? Wrong.
The Bee isn’t owned by Maloof Enterprises.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
You're going a little too far.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Aug 1, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
As long as the Bee is a corporate partner of the KIngs, and the Bee is, than Voisin will be the columnist at their discretion.
Don’t read her columns. It’s all you can do.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Couldn't you just replace that with
“As long as KHTK is a corporate partner of the Kings, and KHTK is, then Napear will be the radio talk show host at their discretion.”
The covered don’t get to pick who they are covered by unless they own the entity providing that coverage.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
That's true of KHTK too.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I never said they could pick you tool.
Read it once more.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Aug 2, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions
It's still as wrong as the first time
The Kings aren’t going to ban Voisin from anything, and if they did, it would have zero impact on the Bee’s decision to retain her services.
In fact, the Bee would almost HAVE to keep her or face the scorn of their profession. If you are the media, you don’t let the high and mighty dictate how you cover them. You don’t seem to understand this concept, though.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
Do you have any real examples
showing why my obviously not serious wishful thinking scenario couldn’t work?
Also, I’m pretty sure if Voisen was banned from contact with them, it WOULD dictate how she covered them.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Aug 2, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Tyreke Evans apparently won't talk to Voisin
That strategy has worked out real well for him, hasn’t it?
It’s the same in politics: the politician who thinks a reporter can’t touch him if he/she doesn’t provide access just creates an enemy who works twice as hard to find the dirt.
Voisin deals in opinions; providing her opinion is her job. She’d still have an opinion about the Kings if they limited her access, and no doubt their actions in doing that would color it negatively.
That’s why there is a profession called public relations. That’s why a company like BP, faced with one of the all-time environmental disasters, doesn’t clam up and go “No comment” on us. Quite the contrary: they beef up their PR forces and move into full crisis mode. They become more accessible than ever and work to inlfuence the situation in their favor.
The Kings are a business, and they recognnize how real life works and how the game is played, even if some kneejerk fans don’t.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
by NewEraKings on Aug 2, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
BP is your example of doing it right?
Tony Hayward and some insipid ads? I’m betting that the folks in the Gulf Coast aren’t nearly as impressed with BP’s PR efforts as you.
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No
I didn’t say they were doing it right. It was just a real-world and pretty dramatic example of how PR works.
BP would have been skewered no matter what they did, but at least they were there to offer their viewpoint. It was unfortunate that Hayward was their CEO and point man.
I am curious why you skipped over the first and probably more relevant example I offered. I guess taking comments out of context and piling on BP is just too easy.
"I know we certainly gave up a lot to get him, but we do have other players on the perimeter who we can plug in. We haven’t had anybody who we feel is a go-to guy in the post. So we gave up a lot to get a lot, and we’re real excited about adding Carl." - Paul Westphal
Boy, after all of this agita...
I would really like to get my life back.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.
Which I will eat.
Agreed
Blogs are the source for sports now, TZ and Harper are great writers that actually get read, if Aileen keeps hating on Evans they need to revoke her access.
BTW I’m sure her and peaches have animated arguments about Evans, Aileen being the hater and Peaches being the one with the unhealthy man-crush
If I was in a room with Bin Laden, Hitler, and Robert Horry and I had a gun with two bullets...I'd shoot Robert Horry twice
Harper already has that access I thought.
He just doesn’t get paid for it like Ailene does so he can’t do it full time.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I don't know...
but that is EXACTLY what I want. I’m beyond tired of this GARBAGE coming out of her keyboard daily.
But I guess this is all our local paper is capable of at this point. At times, it seems like we have a pretend newspaper. It’s not like the Bee can attract a big-name columnist, at least, not until the Kings start winning and even then that’s if the paper still exists. I mean, couldn’t they find a student dedicated to doing REAL work instead of just reporting on the players she hates or finds physically attractive?
I know I’m probably in the minority on this, but I’m just sooooo fed up with being able to get better Kings articles from blogs (like this one) and papers from other cities than the ONE paper in this city. It’s gotten so bad I don’t even go to the Kings section of the Bee anymore.
"I have talent that's there, but I just have the mentality right now that I just want to be the greatest. And I don't think that any other player has that right now." -DeMarcus Cousins
by Noble_Bloodlines on Aug 1, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
You're not in the minority around here.
But, then, regular readers of StR are used to real journalism and have a low tolerance for that kind of pap.
StR Token Female
by LeaguePassAddict on Aug 1, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
It wouldn’t be a smart thing to do to ban the only sports columnist for the only newspaper in town. Like Section214 said, they should start granting access to guys like Ziller and Harper.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
They have Jason Jones, who has reported for them.
They used to have Sam Amick, who they have not replaced.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
The Kings have offered bloggers media access 49er.
As to why TZ doesn’t take advantage, ask him.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
TZ and I will both likely be taking advantage this year.
Well I can’t speak for TZ (but he was at media day last year, he was at Tyreke’s workout, and one of the pre-summer leauge scrimmages) but I will be.
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Awesome.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I was just surprised that so many people actualy thought she had
“a streak of good articles.” There was a mediocre article, followed by an article that had a number of ACTUAL stats in it. That one was good. Then, more mediocrity.
Which, now that I think of it…for Voisin, that is a streak of good articles. Here, let me explain:
“This latest [article from Voisin showing a] lapse in judgment [as well as logic], occurring less than three days after [s]he [wrote other crap articles] – [s]he was not [dis]charged – suggests a lingering lack of [creativity] at best and a troubling pattern of irresponsible, perhaps even [retarded] behavior at worst.
…
The [Bee is] damn lucky [to still be in business], and so now, what are they going to do about it? [Fire Voisin]. Let [Jones take the] lead [sports “columnist” position]. And for now, take away [Voisin’s paycheck].
"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.
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"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
by PhutureKings on Aug 1, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
by iashwash on Aug 1, 2010 8:45 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
Perfect.
Clearly Voisin is trying to ruffle feathers so she and the Bee are talked about. Our best bet would be to ignore this shit, step away from the edge and look away like the bird on the left.
The world is not your Trade Machine.
-Ziller
by jjham15 on Aug 1, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
This is hilarious.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
I'm late to this whole ordeal
Exactly why doesn’t Voisin like Evans? Is it simply because Evans doesn’t talk to her? And if that’s the point, then she’s no different from all the columnist that didn’t like Barry Bonds because he wouldn’t talk to them.
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NaRR. Reke’d, wtc.
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by section214 on Aug 1, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Evans wouldn't let her gawk at his sweaty shoulders,
as she masturbated vigorously wearing nothing but cowboy boots and Vasoline all over her body.
"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.
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"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
by PhutureKings on Aug 1, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, come on. Settle down already.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.
Which I will eat.
Okay...I take back the part about the cowboy hat.
"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.
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"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
by PhutureKings on Aug 1, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Damnit Phuture! You made me imagine that.
Now I have to bathe in clorox.
by BearKing on Aug 1, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wait a minute...
Do we have confirmation that Evans has a jump shot now?
Nice analysis, Z.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.
Which I will eat.
That's what I was wondering.
GREENE! You’ve been superfluously apostrophe’d! - andy sims
iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
It does seems she is not objective
especially placed against the background of her Musselman piece.
One nitpick about the funny PW-Reke dialogue: the best player is not necessarly the team leader.
Dunking Dutchman
Voisin...
Isn’t it obvious? Voisin picks on Tyreke because he isn’t Ricky Rubio. If it had been Rubio doing the driving, Voisin would have been all love and kisses.
In my 35 years as a professional writer, I have never seen such a pitiful excuse for a sportswriter as Voisin. I’m surprised the Kings don’t ban her from ARCO Arena.
by sacnewsnet on Aug 1, 2010 10:07 AM PDT reply actions 10 recs
Totally...
The article would’ve been:
Rubio – who let’s not forget is still only 19 years old – will be prone to these types of indiscretions. The culutral shock he is still experiencing while trying with all his heart to adjust to life in a small, American city, must be at the forefront of this recent mistake, which I am sure will be his last.
The fact is, Ricky Rubio is a still a Spanish teenager. In Spain, it is common to get wasted starting at the age of fifteen. Heck, it’s almost unheard of to not have a DUI by the age of seventeen! So, let’s all relax and help Ricky to get through this. I will be sending flowers and balloons shaped like basketballs and conquestadors to his mom’s house…where she still cuts his steak for him.
HE’S ONLY A BOY FOR CHRIST’S SAKE, PEOPLE! A Godamned angel sent from heaven above, and now the citizens of this cowtown want to persecute him like Jesus of Nazareth!?!
[and then the patented Voisin stupid series of one-liners ending]
Not me.
Not now.
Not ever!
Give him back his keys.
And next time he is driving One-fiddy down the 80, just get out of the way.
He’s from Spain.
His hair smells of a spring meadow.
"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.
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"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
by PhutureKings on Aug 1, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 13 recs
It's not just RUbio though
She has this uncertain fetish for young Euro’s?
See Peja, See Hedo, Rubio now Casspi
Call it her mullet unacceptance here in America
Call it her own personal perversion
Call it whatever you like…
But Voison ALWAYS attaches herself onto the Euro bandwagons in her writings. She’s a hack and it get more obvious by the day.
She loved Spencer, too.
She hated Webber and now Evans.
by mayfieldcol on Aug 1, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Anybody notice a pattern here...
Oh crap, OK I am just going to say it. None of these guys are black. I don’t mean to throw out a live grenade or anything.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Not saying she is racist or anything. It isn’t racist if only white guys turn you on, right?
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
No
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Aug 2, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
As an outsider looking in, this sounds like an open and shut case of racism. Just from the things you guys have said about her writing style and connective pattern.
by saveourbluths on Aug 2, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
As much as I hate defending Poison Voison
She had (has?) the hots for Theus.
"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." - Cardinal Richelieu
Doesn't everyone have the hots for Theus though?
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I sure don't. Reggie Theus reminds me of one of those hairless rat dogs.
But that’s just me. C-Webb, though….
Theus is a light-skinned brother, tho.
"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.
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"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
I didn't say anything either but...
John Whisenant, Bill Laimbeer, Eric Musselman, Larry Brown…
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The only reason we are still talking about the incident is because of the release of the video
In a few months it won’t hardly be talked about. Hopefully this helps people realize just because you can’t see a patrol car doesn’t mean you’re not being watched.
Ba-da
I could see this coming when Yahoo posted it on the front page.
It is the easy way out to write an article like this when it could have been done when the event actually took place. I understand the video brings it back into focus again and it is in the national news but what took so long it that is how she see’s thing? Yeah it was a really stupid move on his part but if she is the champion of this cause where was she when he was arrested?
Is there anyway we can get Kahn to trade for Voisin?
Are we talking about the Hannity who doesn't even have a high school diploma?
Yet has his own commentary show?
by VenomySnicket on Aug 1, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me assure you
Having a bunch of degrees is no measure of intelligence.
I don’t follow commentators, they are paid to promote emotion and response, so perhaps this is besides the point.
by betweentheeyes on Aug 1, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
That is a lot of comments.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
Voisin could have demanded that we trade or waive 'Reke.
So hey, she showed some restraint!
"Where hope goes to die"
If it was Casspi, she would have a wrote a very different article...
…“His eyes were distant, thoughtful. His dark hair stirred in the breeze much like the current of his turbulent emotions. This was not the same man as last year’s international superstar. This was a stronger and more well-defined player, muscles rippling, coiling before each rebound before exploding to the ball with a fine-tuned precision, returning to the hardwood with a wink and a smile at yours truly each and every time. So what’s the big deal he likes to drive fast? Here was a battle tested warrior, ready for another grueling season having to defend his right to being the first player off the bench despite the fact he should be the starter (Tyreke who…?) With the Kings recent history considered, wouldn’t a little acceleration be a good thing…..”
Thank God for editors or this would be the craptastic fallacy that would be the Sac Bee Sports Section. Can we please get another team in town so we can justify having more than one major sports writer…
"We're all here because we're not all there..."
by Sacto_J on Aug 1, 2010 11:06 AM PDT reply actions 11 recs
Reked
That was too good for comfort. You’re sure you haven’t been having daydreams about Casspi?
"And I never said I don’t like KMart. I just don’t think the duo is good for the team. They are essentially two of the same player"
Sammyp831.
Awesome.
I did one similar for Rubio above, because I didn’t see your much better Casspi take on it.
"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.
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"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
by PhutureKings on Aug 1, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually, Savage
A long time reader of the Bee (both as a subscriber and online,) who since realized this is just as good a source for Kings new. Its often a better read, more informative, and absolutely more fun to take part in. Voison’s personal diary entries have always been a point of contention with me when it comes to the Bee…
And yay! My first green….
"We're all here because we're not all there..."
Congratulations on your first green!
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
She had such a good streak of articles coming too
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by Aykis16 on Aug 1, 2010 11:13 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Voisin in action
Here.
"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." - Cardinal Richelieu
Surfing the comments I found this:
WallyWagon11 wrote on 08/01/2010 10:29:13 AM:
This clearly shows ’Reke has no business running our team. He obviously has the thug mentality and we can not have our team leader being a thug. Come to think of it now he is leading Booger, DMC? Mna this is not good. Our team needs a change and needs to make some trades and get us some true leaders.
Very disappointed Wally. “Thug”? Old ladies, computer geeks, soccer moms, red necks…..all of these types of people speed. Calling someone a thug because they drove too fast is ridiculous. Who do you want traded and for what in return?
The world is not your Trade Machine.
-Ziller
I think Wally was trying to get people to fall into the Sar-chasm.
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Unfortunately the Sar-chasm is stymied by the Bee comments section.
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I would not swim in Lake Erie,
and I will not wade into the comments section of Sacbee.com.
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by section214 on Aug 1, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm 117% positive Wally was being sarcastic.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I like this idea best.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
This little ditty was my favorite part:
He isn’t ready to be your floor leader when he’s so oblivious to his surroundings.
I watched the video and to be honest, this was the best court vision I have ever seen from Tyreke. I don’t want to take away from the seriousness of the issue but it’s not like Evans was missing cars by a foot or two. He was driving way too fast but not erratic. There were some lane changes and some multi-lane changes but this happens on highway 80 every day.
The Kings were damn lucky. If another driver attempted a lane change while Evans was clipping along at 130 mph on the freeway? If, once he turned off into a neighborhood, a youngster darted onto the surface streets near the park where he was apprehended?
Once Evans left the freeway, the tape clearly shows he slowed down through the neighborhood. This comment clearly could sway someone who can’t or has not watched the video.
The world is not your Trade Machine.
-Ziller
Yeah she makes it seem like he was going 130 in the residential.
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Wow
I thought his driving was suspect in the neighborhood as well (going a bit fast, not slowing or stopping at turns). And your analysis of his freeway driving is nonsense – those type of lane changes and multi-lane changes DO happen every day, but only because reckless driving occurs every day.
There’s no way to sugarcoat what happened, especially after watching the video.
Having said that. Voison’s article is nonsensical (as per Bee policy).
by otis29 on Aug 1, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Beautiful piece TZ!
I only read The Bee to check out how silly some of the comments are to the “stories” posted there. This sort of bias by AV is exactly what keeps me from reading that paper.
I have realized you can learn more about the team from 1 post on here than you can from an entire years subscription to The Bee! Nice job brotha!
"We are NOT going to talk about me and Darko in the same sentence!" - Chris Webber to David "Dipshit" Khan
I'm really confused.
Is this a SECOND speeding by Evans, or did Voisin just pull out some old news?
It's the same one
It’s news again because they just released the video of the incident
by larry_funderburke on Aug 1, 2010 1:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Damn that was a good read..
Good stuff TZ
I just saw the video just now...
That was some awesome driving Reke!!!!
Man can drive the lanes!
by getPGwithbounce on Aug 1, 2010 12:59 PM PDT reply actions
It should also put to rest any question about Reke's court vision.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
Felt like I was watching an episode of COPS...
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
I will admit, first off, that whole solution is somewhat ambiguous.
Does a reduced role mean sitting on the bench? Fewer minutes? Having the same minutes, but not getting the ball? Exactly what, Ailene, is “taking away the keys” a metaphor for?
And second, which is more of my personal view, leadership isn’t one of those traits that can be given and taken away with a position. If Reke became the true leader of the team beforehand, chances are, he’ll continue in that capacity in the eyes of his peers.
Third, DeMarcus Cousins’s immaturity has been more on the court than off it.
Fourth, if this was Philadelphia, Evans would have had brownie points for being a hometown kid.
Fifth, why would players enter the league at an increasingly younger age when the NBA instituted the one-and-done rule to set the age minimum to 19?
Sixth, Charles Barkley didn’t even play for Sacramento.
And last but not least, PEOPLE DON’T DIE IN VIDEO GAMES!
Reckless driving meets reckless writing
A head on collision where the readers are the casualties.
Tyreke Evans broke the law and was criticized and punished. As a public figure his criminal offense has been well publicized in the media with news articles, editorials and video. Tyreke has faced his punishment and admitted fault without denial.
I have had little to post about the SacBee sports editorial staff. Opinions are the right and privilege of all, particularly the Op-Ed media. Though the internet has opened the circle to all with a connected computer, the views of a professional pundit carry more weight and therefore more responsibility. The "Video confirms it’s too early to give Evans keys to team" by Ailene Voison has me puzzled.
I recall the open letter to Brad Miller that Ms. Voison wrote when the 5 game drug suspension was handed down two summers ago. The venom of the SacBee commenters in response to the editorial was vitriolic and personal. I had distaste for the respondents and empathy for Ailene Voison as her disappointment over the affair cut to the quick as it asked: Why? Why? Why?.
I repeat the query back to the questioner, this time in regards to a personal attack on a young man that has discrediting his professional skills at the heart of it’s agenda and ask Ms. Voison, Why? Why? Why?
It is understood that celebrity is a full time job. The insatiable exposure by the media is part of being a professional athlete. The Leagues purchase the image of the athlete along with their athletic prowess – ask David Stern and Roger Goddell, see ESPN, ESNP2, ESPN3, ESPN Deportes, ESPNews, ESPN The Magazine, ESPN.com, I get that. I don’t understand this personal attack for reckless driving. It could have ended badly? Shocking! To insinuate: Mr. Evans, your sentence by the courts is not enough you should harm your career and reputation further? Absurd.
As for small market scrutiny: If this happened in NYC the splash may have been louder (the pond is deeper and larger) but more and bigger fish would have sunk the story within a day. And let’s face it – the Bee ain’t the Times, not in this galaxy, not in this lifetime.
With this piece I have ended my relationship with the Bee editorial staff. I will have no more part of it. To proactively diminish the recurrence of this drivel I recommend that Ms. Voison’s comments and articles be stricken from the site. No links, no comments, no admonitions, no support. Newspapers are a business. The most effective campaign to evoke a change is to no longer use the product. Incommunicado, please try it; Ailene Voison has become this constant spark to irritate. Her work is tiresome, be done with it.
by betweentheeyes on Aug 1, 2010 1:38 PM PDT reply actions 8 recs
I agree with all of this bte....
…but good luck banning Voisin off this site. As much as people love to hate her, they also love to complain about her.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
We need somewhere to vent about her!
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by caseycheesecake on Aug 2, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm recently banned there. :(
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Aug 2, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
True...
I feel a little better now.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Aug 2, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Well said. As to vitriolic and personal?
Read some of the things about Voison excreted onto this very webpage.
It’s bad writing. She’s not John Wayne Gacy for fuck’s sake.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.
Which I will eat.
by andy sims on Aug 1, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
agreed that is why I suggest a dismissive attitude
over petty hate. Stoking the same fire has left me cold.
by betweentheeyes on Aug 1, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well said, bte.
I no longer subscribe to the Bee, because the sports section was the main reason I kept my subscription. I no longer care to pay to read Voison’s opinion, but I still appreciate the links.
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
Already jumped in that boat with you!!!!
And I think we’re gonna need a bigger one….
"We're all here because we're not all there..."
Ok light side
Did anyone else laugh at the fact they couldn’t decide if the car was purple or black?
There are some guys smarter than me, some guys better looking, I take comfort in the fact that there is no guy that is both.
by ElRonToro on Aug 1, 2010 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That was just the CHP
trying to emphasize that they don’t really see color.
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by section214 on Aug 1, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 12 recs
My man 'Teen
Ain’t no color but green
by basketball galactica on Aug 1, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to go online and look at The Bee for Kings related stuff all the time.
Now I just look at STR, Ziller shits on Voision 7 days a week….
I'm not sitting in your car, or your living room with a gun pointed to your head telling you to listen to 1140. - Grant Napear
Maybe he ought to see a proctologist about that.
Oh I thought you said he shits Voison 7 days a week.
Maybe I just play MW2 too much ...
But I was half expecting 120mm shells to start peppering the ground about half-way through the video
He didn't have enough kills for the killstreak.
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Seriously! I was totally thinking the same thing.
I am glad I was not the only MW2 super nerd.
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
Bad Co. 2 is better, IMO.
In MW2, I just kept running around and knifing people until I could call in a nuke. It got old. Plus, I HATE Activision’s cash-whoring agenda. $15 for 4 new maps and a couple recycles!?! No way. Plus, Activision just release a financial plan in which they state they are missing out on too much online revenue and , thus, want to lead the gaming industry in a pay-to-play online fee (on top of internet, XBOX Live and PSN fees!). In my opinion, this BS, because the only reason I buy those games is to play online. I consider plunking down my initial $60 a sufficient fee.
All of the above just pissed me off, so I am boycotting the MW games. I play BC2 and I preordered Medal of Honor.
Also, I am currently on Starcraft 2, which is awesome. If anyone wants to play w or against me, my SC2 ID is SpacialD.
"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.
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"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
The most interesting (and scary) part of this post
is that based on last year, one could make a credible argument that Beno is our 2nd best player.
I GOTTA TAKE MY HAT OFF
I GOTTA TAKE MY HAT OFF TO YOU ZILLER!!!!! PERFECTLY SAID… I DON’T KNOW WHAT VOISIN GOT STUCK UP HER BEHIND BUT SHE NEEDS TO PULL IT OUT CUZ SHE MAKING OUR YOUNG START LOOK BAD TO THE WHOLE WORLD. INSTEAD SHE SHOULD REPORT EXACTLY WHAT THE SITUATION WAS WHILE STILL BUILDING HIM UP.
Ten-to-one the hat is on backward.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.
Which I will eat.
by andy sims on Aug 1, 2010 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Any chickens?
If you want to be your best, you have to do your best, otherwise you are only second rate.
If you are going to take off your hat, please keep in mind that caps are included
by VenomySnicket on Aug 1, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, now. Slow down a second.
We don’t know for a fact that her premise is idiotic. I mean, she’s only one source.
Fair enough, we have confirmation.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.
Which I will eat.
I really don't get that at all.
Admittedly, I didn’t grow up here, but I have no angst towards the Warriors. I’d like it if their team was good enough to take a bite out of the Lakers from time to time. I think Stephen Curry is a phenomenal player, with a bright future, and a very astute pick by the front office down there.
I’m not rooting for them over the Kings, but I ain’t mad atcha. Certainly not enough to become senior writer at some shit website just to echo the senseless writings of a third-rate columnist.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.
Which I will eat.
LIke I said, the internet takes on all comers
I have yet to meet a sentient being that doesn’t excrete waste, and there is no shortage of proof.
by betweentheeyes on Aug 1, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the point is that Resnick is a Warriors fan
About Steven: My favorite teams are the Oakland A’s, Golden State Warriors, San Francisco 49ers, San Jose Sharks, and the California Golden Bears. I’m currently in New London, Connecticut at Mitchell College working on a Sports Management Degree.
A Kings fan would not want the #1 player suspended for 10 games. Resnick, a Warriors fan, does…
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Bay Area people are snobs.
They think they are so much better than people in Sac. Why? Good question. But they think that. I swear.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Or "alot" of people in the Bay are snobs. Not all.
Enough of them are though.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
No, their all snobs
Fooch (The guy who runs Niners Nation for SBN) wrote fanposts today in all the SBN Bay Area blogs asking if they wanted more Kings coverage for SBN Bay Area. I saw responses such as, “Sacramento is more of an obnoxious city as Fresno” and “When the big one comes, Sacramento will officially be in the Bay Area.”
They couldn’t give a shit about us in this area. I love the Giants and 49ers, but I despise the people who also root for them because they’re trapped in their own little bubble with a loose grip on reality.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
True to an extent,
but you have to be careful not to paint with too broad of a brush. I read McCovey Chronicles daily, and the members their are every bit as passionate about the Giants as we are about the Kings. And many of the members are brilliant in their knowledge of the Giants and their ability to convey their thoughts in an entertaining and intelligent manner.
Warriors fans that know of Nate Thurmond and Clifford Ray and Franklin Mieuli and Bill King are great fans – it’s a few of the ones that jumped on the “We believe” bandwagon that have me doubting Darwin.
We’re kind of lucky here. As a smaller market, there are fewer band wagon jumpers to pull from, while larger markets like the bay area and LA are rife with these suckers.
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by section214 on Aug 1, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Kings get most of their wagon jumpers from the 99-04 days
But now that wagon is no longer fresh, and Tyreke Evans/DeMarcus Cousins are the only fans left, that fire is starting to die.
Miami may be the biggest bandwagon town in the US other than Atlanta.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Atlanta has the worst basketball fans of any city I've seen
Watching games where Atlanta is the home team, you almost feel like they’re playing a road game. The crowd isn’t into it at all.
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Yeah. Atl has real fans, but they don't show up at the games I think.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It's Falcons and Braves
then G-Tech and the Bulldogs.
by betweentheeyes on Aug 2, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you guys seriously trying to kill me?
I think its time for me to break out the Kenny Natt treatment on Bleacher Report. From now on, there shall be no more BS on this site. From now on, there shall only be BR (although I hope not to see an abundance of it).
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LOL Bleacher Report
It astounds me their granted access to press boxes.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
I think we should just let Doc Evans say what we're all obviously thinking...
Why are they still talking about the speeding incident Tyreke had! It happened almost 3 months ago! Just move on! He already apologized! SMH
Ailene Voisin is the worst writer I’ve ever read! I think she’s bitter cause the Kings didn’t draft Rubio! Thank God she’s not the GM!
Just because Michael Phelps was smoking marijuana, does that mean he’s not The best swimmer in the world? No he made a mistake!!! Damn!
by PurpleLoco on Aug 1, 2010 8:48 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
In response to the Phelps question:
No, Doc…what it means is that he is even awesomer because he can toke up and STILL be the world’s best swimmer.
"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.
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"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
Just be glad Evans was as late a pick as he was.
If he was a #1 pick, the national media would have picked up on this far more than they have. I don’t mean to make light of the situation, it is serious. But Derrick Rose peeling apples and Greg Oden’s man-parts are probably going to be better remembered. And that’s a fortunate thing. Because they will never live those things down. Evans speeding incident will be forgotten, eventually.
And stupid mistakes made by 20 year old kids should be forgotten eventually. Maybe not now. He needs to realize that not only did he put himself at risk, he put others at risk, and the entire Kings organization at risk. But when that life lesson is realized, then everyone should move on, because Evans has a bright future ahead of him. It would be a shame to keep it tarnished on purpose.
"[S]ince men enjoyed very great leisure, they used it to pursue many kinds of commodities unknown to their fathers, and that was that first yoke they placed upon themselves without thinking about it, and the first source of evils the prepared for their descendants. For, besides continuing thus to soften body and mind, as these commodities had lost almost all their pleasantness through habit, and as they had at the same time degenerated into true needs, being deprived of them became much more cruel than possessing them was sweet; and people were unhappy to lose them without being happy to have them." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
first of all
what’s this woman doing writing about sports?! she should be in the kitchen, leave the sports to the big boys.
"And Solskjaer has won it!"
by 'tough as nails' spence on Aug 1, 2010 9:52 PM PDT reply actions
Attack her writing guys
don’t attack her. And don’t be sexist.
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If this isn't sarcasm,
I envision this coming from a “male” that drives a Corvette, has at least one restraining order against him, and has a very, very small penis.
But it was probably just sarcasm…right, Spence?
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EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
(Forgive this comment. I've been watching the Venture Bros for the last 2 hours.)
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Aug 2, 2010 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brock Samson'd
"We're all here because we're not all there..."
by Sacto_J on Aug 2, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL J
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
yes it was.
"And Solskjaer has won it!"
by 'tough as nails' spence on Aug 2, 2010 3:25 AM PDT up reply actions
For someone who hates sports
Aileen sure made a bad career choice. Although if she were covering puppies I’m certain she’d find a way to suck at that as well.
Puppies are too young and immature.
They have poor decision making on whether to pee pee and poo poo on the paper or on the carpet. They are nothing but SOB’s that rip up furniture, terrorize mailmen’s ankles and make so much noise when I accidentally back up over them in the driveway. Somebody needs to take away their keys until they prove they can be leaders!
This.
by elfboy_ on Aug 2, 2010 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
However,
European puppies display a more refined demeanor and chew toys the way toys were designed to be chewed.
"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.
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"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
by PhutureKings on Aug 3, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow, did some research on Voisin
She makes Tim Kawakami seem like a legitimate journalist. Hard to do. Congrats Sac
by tafkasam on Aug 3, 2010 10:29 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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