Tyreke Evans Suspended One Game for Reckless Driving
by Tom Ziller on Aug 27, 2010 10:10 AM PDT
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PrintThe NBA has just announced Tyreke Evans will be suspended for the first game of the season due to his guilty plea in that dangerous reckless driving case. The Kings open at Minnesota on October 27. Since the NBA acted, there should be no further punishment from the Kings.
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Makes my fanshot worthless
I’m more surprised the NBA didn’t suspend Reke for more games. I thought he would at least get a couple of games.
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One game is fair.
Hopefully the chatter can die down now on this subject.
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Hmmmm
Puts that opening game in more doubt. I guess we should have anticipated this.
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One Game is Great...
I thought it would be more. Thank you David Stern? ( read it like Anchorman)
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also doesn't change the fact that he is guilty
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
That was probably his laywer's doing
not his own
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by prowseinthehouse on Aug 27, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Either way
I think it would be REALLY hard to prove that Tyreke going 130 MPH and weaving through traffic does not qualify as willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property. Especially given the video evidence and I am sure he was caught on radar that is pretty easy to prove whether it was calibrated correctly.
Only reason for “no contest” is in case of a civil lawsuit.
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Good
I think it’s deserved. Now he and the rest of us can move on.
by Dub_TC on Aug 27, 2010 10:41 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Beno and Cisco start game 1?
When Evans is out it shows how thin we are at guard rather glaringly (possibly my own word).
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by Shizzo on Aug 27, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think it's fair
I was wondering if there was a precedent, and realized something I hadn’t thought of before. You almost never hear about an NBA Player getting charged with “just” reckless driving. Usually they find drugs, guns, alcohol. So, while I still agree that it was a dumb thing for Reke to do, it was nice to see that he was just being stupid, and that there wasn’t an “and 1.”
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by SavageBeast on Aug 27, 2010 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Good post
Agreed.
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Actually
LeBron James was ticketed going 101 MPH in 2008. And he didn’t serve a suspension, if I recall correctly.
The league has a pattern of handing out suspensions based on extenuating circumstances around incident. Apparently 101 MPH is safer than 120 MPH, and MVPs are less suspension worthy than ROYs.
I predict JT puts up 7/5 next year.
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by andy sims on Aug 27, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
And the difference
A: lebron was not weaving in and out of traffic as much as said,
B: 36 MPH (70 zone) over vs 55-65MPD over(65 zone)..Thats basically double the safe speed limit..Thats a huge difference
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by Widowwolf on Aug 27, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
That is a light slap on the wrist. Pretty amazing that the penalty for stepping one foot onto the court during a fight is the same as getting arrested driving 130 mph.
See bb's comment above on LaBron
It isn’t a crime by the way, it’s an infraction. Not that I’m defending the crazy 130 mph thing.
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by lietothegirls on Aug 27, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Technically not sure about Cailfornia but I am pretty sure it is usually a misdemeanor crime
and not an infraction
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
er criminal misdemeanor
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Correct
Misdemeanor in most cases. Felony if there is injury and/or prior convictions for DUI, reckless, etc.
Nope
Just an infraction, otherwise he’d have been in something other than traffic court. Reckless endangerment would have been something different.
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by lietothegirls on Aug 27, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Wrong
23103(a) CVC is is reckless driving, a misdemeanor. Peace officers have the discretion as to whether to issue a citation or take the offender before a magistrate (jail) per 40303 CVC.
by blako on Aug 27, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also
Per 40302 CVC, the only time a peace officer is required to take the offender before a magistrate (to jail) for a vehicle code violation is when:
1. The offense is a felony
2. When the offender fails to present ID
3. When the offender refuses to give written promise to appear in court
3. When the offender demands an immediate appearance before a magistrate.
4. When the person is charged with 23152 CVC (DUI).
by blako on Aug 27, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I have a hard time seeing how this wasn't a California Vehicle Code 23103(a) reckless driving misdemeanor
Although to be honest not really sure how CVC 40303 applies. I could be reading this wrong but it apperas that regulation is for when the officer is making an arrest or citation.
Basically, when the police actually stopped Evans, handcuffed him, and searched his vehicle, they could have taken him to the county jail and he would have his First Appearance before a magistrate who, based on the facts, will determine whether there was probable cause for the arrest and they would set bail if a flight risk and set a court date. But according to this regulation CVC 40303 the police has discretion to decide to just give a citation and let Evans appear on his own accord later.
Having said that though, CVC 40302 shows where the police officer has little discretion and has to hall him into county, possibly for the night.
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
He was definately charged with 23103(a) CVC. The officer isn’t required to arrest and book the offender for that section as stated in 40302 CVC. However, 40303(a) CVC (optional appearance before a magistrate) states the peace officer has the discretion to either issue a notice to appear or take the offender to jail in the county where the offense occurred. Subsection (B)(2) states that 40303(a) CVC applies to 23103 or 23104 CVC pertaining to reckless driving.
The officer has to form “probable cause” that the offender committed the crime before placing the offender under arrest. Once arrested, and if taken to jail, 23103 CVC has a set bail amount, which differs slightly between counties. Bail may be enhanced by a peace officer if there are priors. Then the offender either makes bail or sits in jail until they can appear before a magistrate. The magistrate can then decide whether to let the person continue to sit in jail, make bail, or let them out.
And, per 23109.2(a)(1)(2)(B) the peace officer has the right to impound the offender’s vehicle for a maximum 30 days for 23103(a) CVC.
by blako on Aug 27, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
100% accurate. Sorry I was kind of shooting off the cuff and wish I double checked what I wrote but yeah you are spot on.
But I get the feeling that LTTG wasn’t talking about whether Tyreke was hauled in to jail when the offense occured. He was referring to the fact that on a later date Tyreke went to traffic court to settle the matter. At least that is what I think he was saying.
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Basically not sure if it applies to what LTTG was saying
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Ug I hate not being articulate
Basically it sounds like LTTG is more concerned about where they were looking at the merits of the case not whether Tyreke got hauled in front of a magistrate or whether they were cited but what happened on the actual court date.
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I see what you're saying
But he is saying that it was just an infraction because otherwise it wouln’t have been handled in traffic court. Traffic infractions and traffic misdemeanors are both handled in traffic court.
Yeah that's what I thought too
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
You go to traffic school to get an infraction off your record
Going to traffic school implies this was an infraction. I guess the judge could order that for reckless driving, but it is rather odd.
Could the judge have lowered this to an infraction? Doesn’t seem too likely, but this might be his first offense which they generally handle lightly and that would be an explanation for the traffic school.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Regardless of whether it's just an infraction or a misdemeanor you are going to get points on your driving record.
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not that odd
Judges have the ability to reduce or cancel out penalties in traffic court. I believe Tyreke also had his license suspended for 30 days, got community service, and informal probation. You don’t get all that for an infraction.
by blako on Aug 27, 2010 5:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah
I think the NBA showed discretion on this one because Tyreke is one of the “good guys” in the league and he handled himself well once the incident hit the media. I bet if he had acted like a spoiled punk in the days after his arrest, they would’ve given him 5.
by Kevin Conroy on Aug 27, 2010 11:20 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Granted how everything played it
It could have all been a lot worse.
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by Bkj on Aug 27, 2010 11:22 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Suspended for Reckless Driving
That’s crap. It’s just a traffic violation. Are they going to start looking at parking and fix it tickets? Consider the shark jumped on conduct policy suspensions. Game 1, Where is Reke? Oh, he’s suspended for speeding on the freeway.
by bignerd on Aug 27, 2010 11:24 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
no it's not just a traffic violation
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
It's speeding
Reckless Driving is a big catchall for traffic violations in California. It can be plea bargain down from a DUI charge or a slightly more severe speeding ticket putting two points against your driver record instead of one. It’s a traffic violation. I’ve never head of anyone pleading down from a DUI to reckless driving ever getting hit with jail time or the more severe consequences of the violation.
Nope, sorry but it's a criminal misdemeanor
and it’s punishable by imprisonment in a county jail for not less than five days nor more than 90 days or by a fine of not less than one hundred forty-five dollars ($145) nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment. Upon conviction you will have a criminal record and two points on your driving record.
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
The criminal record part depends. The DUI cases go on the criminal record, the bumped up speeding cases just receive the two points and a fine.
This isn't a DUI plea deal. Tyreke was clocked at 130. I think that qualifies under California Vehicle Code Section 23103(a)
Sorry but that was what it was. You don’t need to be drunk. Pretty sure 130 and darting throught traffic would suffice. I don’t see why it’s so difficult to see this. Tyreke didn’t take a plea here. They had him on video and on radar. Again, they had him on video and on radar. Going 130. Changing multiple lanes. Double the speed limit. On the highway. In traffic.
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The other big difference -
LeBron’s drive was at 3 AM, while Tyreke’s was in the middle of the day. Evans was potentially a far greater danger to far more people than James.
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by section214 on Aug 27, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
well regardless of Lebron, my one point was that this was in fact a criminal misdemeanor we are talking about.
To just say this is just a traffic infraction is kind of silly. This wasn’t a case where we are talking about a traffic infration. I would also like to point out that if it were a DUI where there was a plea that doesn’t change the fact that the person was engaging in criminal activity. Factually, it is what it is.
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a criminal misdemeanor
And yeah I wouldn’t be shocked if the NBA starts looking at DUIs, domestic violence, petty theft, and simple drug possession for suspensions, regardless of whether they elevate into felonies or not.
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
The NBA has an image to uphold
which is to present players as professional, high character, and community-oriented, and rightfully so. It is good for business. If players are displaying irresponsible behavior, it puts the league in a bad way, which effects public perception, ticket sales, and profits, in theory. So it’s not the speeding ticket, per say, that gets him in trouble. Its conduct detrimental to the league.
I don’t have problem with a one-game suspension. I take issue with the randomness of their rules and penalties they hand down. If Lebron James avoided suspension, so should Tyreke.
I predict JT puts up 7/5 next year.
In regards to Lebron
Times have changed. Don’t quite recall the year Lebron got the reckless driving but pretty sure that was before the Artest brawl. Plus before other non NBA stuff like Michael Vick’s lovely dog fighting stuff.
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks
stand corrected.
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by wallywagon11 on Aug 27, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Well we'll get to see more of Pooh Jeter and Antoine Wright sooner
and the Wolves are a team the Kings should beat, even without Evans.
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punishments need to be more consistent
joakim noah gets busted with (while driving)weed and with what “smelled like an alcoholic beverage” and he gets barely a slap on the wrist.
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by Balky Needs on Aug 27, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
You see what I did there...
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I guess now we'll get to see if Landry and Cousins can carry the load offensively
Perfect for Cousins since it will be against Minnesota.
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by Shizzo on Aug 27, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Its gonna be an epic pg battle.
Johnny Flynn vs. Pooh Jeter, Luke Ridnour vs. Beno Udrih, Donald Sloan vs. Wayne Ellington.
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by White Brocklate on Aug 27, 2010 1:31 PM PDT reply actions
I think Johnny Flynn is out for a while.
During summer league they said he had a hip injury he was gonna need surgery on.
Would everyone feel the same if we were starting the season at home?
The Kings have done everything they can to sell out the 1st home game. Every quarter season pass included the home opener and the home opener and LA games were a big push.
I’m going to the opener so my first thought was that I’m glad it wasn’t for 4 games, and that we started on the road again. No more bitchin about starting every season on the road for me.
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Good point
I would be pissed if I had paid to see Reke and then he was suspended for the game I had tickets for.
That said, I like the suspension. It shows they care but aren’t going overboard. I would normally expect a harsh reaction because we are a “small market team”.
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by Noble_Bloodlines on Aug 27, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously?
Am I the only one that thinks this is BULL?!?
A SUSPENSION for a ‘traffic violation’. Seriously? You’ve got to be kidding me $tern.
Um
Go back to the top comments and read why you are wrong…
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by Noble_Bloodlines on Aug 27, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm glad the game he's out is against the Timberwolves.
Gives the rest of the guys a game to gel together with Cisco coming back, as well as the new draft picks, against a relatively weak team.
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